Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 I am and can't wait! Lynn R > Anyone going to this in Arlington VA in October? > > > > MFJ > Everything connects. The Universe is not THAT chaotic. Beauty can > still be found in the most amazing places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 I am; from Atlanta, probably driving. Rebekah rmdowd13@... WAPF Conference Anyone going to this in Arlington VA in October? MFJ Everything connects. The Universe is not THAT chaotic. Beauty can still be found in the most amazing places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I'm still waffling. I pretty much only thought of it because I noticed Ron Schmid was going to be there. Thought it might be nice to actually MEET my physician. At 02:25 PM 9/1/04 -0000, you wrote: >I am and can't wait! >Lynn R > > > >> Anyone going to this in Arlington VA in October? MFJ Everything connects. The Universe is not THAT chaotic. Beauty can still be found in the most amazing places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 At 05:24 PM 9/1/04 -0400, you wrote: >I am; from Atlanta, probably driving. > >Rebekah Wow. I'll be driving too - but only about 10 miles. Lucky me. MFJ Everything connects. The Universe is not THAT chaotic. Beauty can still be found in the most amazing places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 > At 02:25 PM 9/1/04 -0000, you wrote: > >I am and can't wait! > >Lynn R > > I'm planning on going too. Can't wait to meet you all in person! :-) Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 At 07:28 AM 10/6/04 -0000, you wrote: >So no one is going to give us the low down on the conference? I'm not >expecting a ten page report, but it would be nice to have a couple of >paragraphs (please! ) > >Dawn I can't report much, but how's this: Just how ironic would it be to pick up a cold at a conference focusing on nutrition and health? MFJ Who is off to dig all that chicken broth out of the freezer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 > >So no one is going to give us the low down on the conference? I'm not > >expecting a ten page report, but it would be nice to have a couple of > >paragraphs (please! ) > > > >Dawn > > > I can't report much, but how's this: > > Just how ironic would it be to pick up a cold at a conference focusing on > nutrition and health? > > > > > MFJ > Who is off to dig all that chicken broth out of the freezer. That's too bad . I always find that fresh vegetable juices (mix of tomato, carrot, lettuce and any other good stuff in your fridge) with ginger and garlic also help a lot to ward off colds. That's what I do in addition to the chicken broth. Hope you feel better. Now get off the computer and get some rest! Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 At 02:06 PM 10/6/04 -0000, Dawn wrote: >That's too bad . I always find that fresh vegetable juices (mix of >tomato, carrot, lettuce and any other good stuff in your fridge) with >ginger and garlic also help a lot to ward off colds. That's what I do >in addition to the chicken broth. Hope you feel better. Now get off >the computer and get some rest! Yes MA'AM! Actually, I made some pretty good veggie soup with duck broth last night. Mostly because the duck broth was at the front of the freezer, and the chicken was in the back. Good thing I'm single, too, because the amount of raw garlic I ate last night .... wowieeeeeee!!! MFJ Everything connects. The Universe is not THAT chaotic. Beauty can still be found in the most amazing places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 > >That's too bad . I always find that fresh vegetable juices (mix of > >tomato, carrot, lettuce and any other good stuff in your fridge) with > >ginger and garlic also help a lot to ward off colds. That's what I do > >in addition to the chicken broth. Hope you feel better. Now get off > >the computer and get some rest! > > Yes MA'AM! That's an order soldier! > > Actually, I made some pretty good veggie soup with duck broth last night. > Mostly because the duck broth was at the front of the freezer, and the > chicken was in the back. I hear ya. > > Good thing I'm single, too, because the amount of raw garlic I ate last > night .... wowieeeeeee!!! > Your posts are too funny. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 At 03:28 PM 10/6/04 -0000, Dawn wrote: >Your posts are too funny. Yeah, now if only you could actually get a rundown on the conference! MFJ Everything connects. The Universe is not THAT chaotic. Beauty can still be found in the most amazing places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Hi, Dawn and everyone, Here's my condensed version of the conference: Saturday Some amazingly informative and fascinating talks by Sally, Blaylock, Jerry Brunetti, Getoff, and Eisenstein. Sally reviewed the basics: who's Weston Price? What did he do? What do we learn from him? Jerry Brunetti talked about soil health and the health of those who live off what it grows -- animals and humans. Shocking topsoil losses: conventional farming loses 6 pounds soil for every 1 pound of food produced -- organic farming, 5 lb soil lost per 1 pound of food produced. Acidulated fertilizers leach nutrients from soil, and since 1914 we have lost truly substantial amounts of calcium and magnesium from our soil nationwide. Often iron (the 2nd most abundant mineral in soil) actually increases as others decrease, resulting in unpalatable forage for grazing animals and causing reproductive difficulties as well. Mineral loss leads to loss of immunity in both plants and animals. He talked about Dr. Harvey Wiley, first head of what became the FDA, who actually labelled grain deficient in minerals " adulterated " and seized carloads of the stuff -- needless to say, he got ousted quickly by the millers. Other names mentioned: Dr. Northern, Dr. Earp , Dr. Albrecht, Dr. Royal Lee, Dr. Howell, Dr. Francis Pottenger, Dr. Keaton, Sir Albert , Wes , Jay (quite a bit about each man's discoveries as relating to soil health and minerals, and fascinating). He mentioned the wonderful book, " Farmers of 40 Centuries. " (author " Seeds of Deception " ), started by recounting the truth behind the recall of L-tryptophan due to the bad batch from (as I recall) Showa Denko in Japan. The story put out was that a filter malfunctioned and was responsible for the problem. However, people were getting sick for 4 years before the filter issue. The fact is that the company was using bacteria genetically engineered to produce the animo acid faster. 5,000 - 10,000 people were affected by symptoms (extreme pain), many were disabled, 100 died. However, this bad effect was discovered because the symptoms possessed 3 characteristics: they were rare, they were acute, and they appeared throughout the population suddenly. If all 3 characteristics are not present, it's less likely to identify a new syndrome or its cause. He discussed the massive disinformation about GM foods, including covering up risks of such foods as identified by the FDA's own scientists during testing. He discussed the myth of the precise splicing of genes into DNA, which is actually comparable to a shotgun spattering genes into genetic material in the hopes that some will take. He also destroyed the idea that DNA is destroyed in digestion, something that's been said by GM producers; in tests, GM DNA was found in the gut bacteria of people eating GM foods, showing horizontal transfer -- something truly alarming. Also, supposedly stable genes that had not been directly modified showed modifications, different from the original ones, and no testing has ever been done on such new gene sequences. Many examples of ways in which GM foods have contributed to problems of all kinds: intestinal lesions, infertility, allergies, etc. etc. There is hope: The industry can be brought down (as it has in much of Europe) by educating people. These foods are GM unless specified otherwise: soy, corn and derivative products, canola, cotton, as well as Hawaiian papaya, some zucchini, crookneck squash, and Quest tobacco. Resources: gmwatch.org, thecampaign.org, seedsofdeception.com Getoff: Microwaves use ionizing radiation, which alters the molecular structure of food so our body no longer recognizes it as food. Just like GM foods, microwaving alters DNA. He reminded us that it doesn't matter whether you defrost, warm up leftovers, or cook, the alteration is the same. Names mentioned: Emord, Hans Herdl. Numerous published studies mentioned (Lancet, Journal of Pediatrics, etc.) showing damage to food. A woman even died when the blood to be used for her transfusion was thawed via microwave. No hospital will warm infant formula or defrost blood with the microwave! Consuming microwaved food reduces immune function and the nutritive value of food; add plastic, it's even worse. Irradiation: anything that has been processed in such a way that it will not break down at a normal rate shouldn't be eaten. In other words, our guts have to break down food (i.e., digest), but if something's been done to it to keep it from breaking down normally, digestion is hampered as well. Irradiation, like microwaving, alters DNA. There is no radiation on the food itself; the problem is that the damage is done to the DNA. BTW, don't use smoke detectors with radioactive elements -- he recommends photovoltaic models. That's all I'm going to cover right now, got to get back to work! Buy the tapes, is all I can say: Creative Seminars taped everything (cassette or CD), and videotaped several talks (video or DVD). Their number is 845.679.6885. --- In , " dawnciano " <dawnciano@y...> wrote: > > So no one is going to give us the low down on the conference? I'm not > expecting a ten page report, but it would be nice to have a couple of > paragraphs (please! ) > > Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Wow, I'm impressed . That was really a report. I will definitely have to get those tapes. Thanks for sharing. Of course after reading some of the things you reported, I'm more scared now than ever. Sometimes I'm kind of happy I live in Italy where they rejected GM foods, but it does worry me that my own family back in the States is probably eating a lot of this garbage and using a microwave. It's hard to convert them. They just think I'm too fanatical about nutrition. Dawn -- In , " victoria90064 " <victoria@b...> wrote: > > Hi, Dawn and everyone, > > Here's my condensed version of the conference: > > Saturday > > Some amazingly informative and fascinating talks by Sally, > Blaylock, Jerry Brunetti, Getoff, and Eisenstein. > > Sally reviewed the basics: who's Weston Price? What did he do? What do > we learn from him? > > Jerry Brunetti talked about soil health and the health of those who > live off what it grows -- animals and humans. Shocking topsoil losses: > conventional farming loses 6 pounds soil for every 1 pound of food > produced -- organic farming, 5 lb soil lost per 1 pound of food produced. > > Acidulated fertilizers leach nutrients from soil, and since 1914 we > have lost truly substantial amounts of calcium and magnesium from our > soil nationwide. Often iron (the 2nd most abundant mineral in soil) > actually increases as others decrease, resulting in unpalatable forage > for grazing animals and causing reproductive difficulties as well. > Mineral loss leads to loss of immunity in both plants and animals. > > He talked about Dr. Harvey Wiley, first head of what became the FDA, > who actually labelled grain deficient in minerals " adulterated " and > seized carloads of the stuff -- needless to say, he got ousted quickly > by the millers. > > Other names mentioned: Dr. Northern, Dr. Earp , > Dr. Albrecht, Dr. Royal Lee, Dr. Howell, Dr. Francis > Pottenger, Dr. Keaton, Sir Albert , Wes , Jay > (quite a bit about each man's discoveries as relating to > soil health and minerals, and fascinating). He mentioned the wonderful > book, " Farmers of 40 Centuries. " > > (author " Seeds of Deception " ), started by recounting the > truth behind the recall of L-tryptophan due to the bad batch from (as > I recall) Showa Denko in Japan. The story put out was that a filter > malfunctioned and was responsible for the problem. However, people > were getting sick for 4 years before the filter issue. The fact is > that the company was using bacteria genetically engineered to produce > the animo acid faster. 5,000 - 10,000 people were affected by symptoms > (extreme pain), many were disabled, 100 died. > > However, this bad effect was discovered because the symptoms possessed > 3 characteristics: they were rare, they were acute, and they appeared > throughout the population suddenly. If all 3 characteristics are not > present, it's less likely to identify a new syndrome or its cause. > > He discussed the massive disinformation about GM foods, including > covering up risks of such foods as identified by the FDA's own > scientists during testing. He discussed the myth of the precise > splicing of genes into DNA, which is actually comparable to a shotgun > spattering genes into genetic material in the hopes that some will take. > > He also destroyed the idea that DNA is destroyed in digestion, > something that's been said by GM producers; in tests, GM DNA was found > in the gut bacteria of people eating GM foods, showing horizontal > transfer -- something truly alarming. Also, supposedly stable genes > that had not been directly modified showed modifications, different > from the original ones, and no testing has ever been done on such new > gene sequences. > > Many examples of ways in which GM foods have contributed to problems > of all kinds: intestinal lesions, infertility, allergies, etc. etc. > > There is hope: The industry can be brought down (as it has in much of > Europe) by educating people. > > These foods are GM unless specified otherwise: soy, corn and > derivative products, canola, cotton, as well as Hawaiian papaya, some > zucchini, crookneck squash, and Quest tobacco. > > Resources: gmwatch.org, thecampaign.org, seedsofdeception.com > > Getoff: Microwaves use ionizing radiation, which alters the > molecular structure of food so our body no longer recognizes it as > food. Just like GM foods, microwaving alters DNA. He reminded us that > it doesn't matter whether you defrost, warm up leftovers, or cook, the > alteration is the same. > > Names mentioned: Emord, Hans Herdl. Numerous published > studies mentioned (Lancet, Journal of Pediatrics, etc.) showing damage > to food. A woman even died when the blood to be used for her > transfusion was thawed via microwave. No hospital will warm infant > formula or defrost blood with the microwave! > > Consuming microwaved food reduces immune function and the nutritive > value of food; add plastic, it's even worse. > > Irradiation: anything that has been processed in such a way that it > will not break down at a normal rate shouldn't be eaten. In other > words, our guts have to break down food (i.e., digest), but if > something's been done to it to keep it from breaking down normally, > digestion is hampered as well. > > Irradiation, like microwaving, alters DNA. There is no radiation on > the food itself; the problem is that the damage is done to the DNA. > > BTW, don't use smoke detectors with radioactive elements -- he > recommends photovoltaic models. > > > That's all I'm going to cover right now, got to get back to work! Buy > the tapes, is all I can say: Creative Seminars taped everything > (cassette or CD), and videotaped several talks (video or DVD). Their > number is 845.679.6885. > > > > > > > > So no one is going to give us the low down on the conference? I'm not > > expecting a ten page report, but it would be nice to have a couple of > > paragraphs (please! ) > > > > Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 > > Hi, Dawn and everyone, > > Here's my condensed version of the conference: > > Saturday > > Some amazingly informative and fascinating talks by Sally, > Blaylock, Jerry Brunetti, Getoff, and Eisenstein. > Thank you for your excellent recap! The stuff on soil by Jerry Brunetti was very timely given our recent thread on this list titled " Holy Organic " . The picture he painted was even worse than what was portrayed here. IMO, ultimste change will occur when consumers demand *at the point of sale* something different, and that is where things like brix and the refractometer enter the picture: http://www.crossroads.ws/brixbook/BBook.htm But the most interesting factoid for me was in relation to Sally Fallon and Weston Price. Apparently Sally Fallon was born in the exact same Santa hospital that Weston Price died in, only the day before. Fascinating.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Would have been even more fascinating if Sally had been born the day after - or is that the way round you meant? deb But the most interesting factoid for me was in relation to Sally > Fallon and Weston Price. > > Apparently Sally Fallon was born in the exact same Santa > hospital that Weston Price died in, only the day before. > > Fascinating.... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 > Numerous published studies mentioned (Lancet, Journal of Pediatrics, etc.) showing damage to food. , Did you happen to get specific references to the journal articles? I'm trying to convince my wife to dump the microwave, and she's much more likely to pay attention if I can show her mainstream medical evidence that it causes damage. Many thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 > Re: WAPF Conference > > > > > > >> Numerous published studies mentioned (Lancet, Journal of >Pediatrics, etc.) showing damage to food. > >, > >Did you happen to get specific references to the journal articles? >I'm trying to convince my wife to dump the microwave, and she's much >more likely to pay attention if I can show her mainstream medical >evidence that it causes damage. > >Many thanks, > > Getoff offered very little on the way of citations. I was disappointed. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 > > Would have been even more fascinating if Sally had been born the day > after - or is that the way round you meant? > > deb > Nope. She was born the day before he died. What I found fascinating was that the most well known advocate and arguably the most influential advocate of the nutritional approach of Dr. Weston Price was in the same place at the same time as he was when he died and supposedly uttered on his death bed these final instructions: " you teach, you teach, you teach. " Many great movement leaders who leave a *lasting* legacy issue such instructions. A portion of Christ's last recorded words were " go ye therefore and teach all nations... " It didn't look like much at the time, given the seemingly small group of apostles and disciples, but within a generation they would change the world as we know it. Within three centuries, for better or for worse, his followers would conquer the Roman Empire. Dr. Price's work was largely ignored in his lifetime and for some time after. There is no way he could have known that some little baby in the same hospital as he would become a dedicated follower and bring attention to his work in a way he probably never dreamed of. Nor could he have imagined that one of Christ's professsing modern day followers, a generation removed from Sally, would be doing the same thing - Jordan Rubin with _The Makers Diet_, and bring it (the message) to a MUCH larger audience. Like I said, at least for me, fascinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 > > Actually, I made some pretty good veggie soup with duck broth last night. > Mostly because the duck broth was at the front of the freezer, and the > chicken was in the back. > > Good thing I'm single, too, because the amount of raw garlic I ate last > night .... wowieeeeeee!!! When I was living in California, my roommate and I would have a big HUGE salad everyday with LOTS of garlic, 6,7,8 cloves or more. It was yummy. We didn't realize until much later that nearly everyone could smell us a mile away, lol! We must have freaked out our classmates and instructors. Later, when I went to a Dr. Schulze training seminar, there were bowls of garlic and ginger on the table soaking in olive oil. We piled it on of course (I also piled on the cayenne pepper much to my chagrin - but that is another story). The last day I had to leave early so I didn't partake of the lunch, but I did get on the elevator with a couple of my fellow colleagues. YOWSA!! When I was eating it I hadn't noticed it but boy that elevator and those folks WREAKED of garlic. I'm sure the other people staying in the hotel must have thought we were nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 At 03:45 PM 10/7/04 -0000, you wrote: >When I was living in California, my roommate and I would have a big >HUGE salad everyday with LOTS of garlic, 6,7,8 cloves or more. It was >yummy. We didn't realize until much later that nearly everyone could >smell us a mile away, lol! We must have freaked out our classmates and >instructors. > >Later, when I went to a Dr. Schulze training seminar, there were bowls >of garlic and ginger on the table soaking in olive oil. We piled it on >of course (I also piled on the cayenne pepper much to my chagrin - but >that is another story). > >The last day I had to leave early so I didn't partake of the lunch, >but I did get on the elevator with a couple of my fellow colleagues. >YOWSA!! When I was eating it I hadn't noticed it but boy that elevator >and those folks WREAKED of garlic. I'm sure the other people staying >in the hotel must have thought we were nuts! > > Hee hee! If I'd been either a classmate or in that elevator, I probably would have tried to follow y'all home for dinner. BTW, the Coconut Chicken Soup from NT is the most wonderful stuff cold-wise .... I'm working on my third batch in 24 hours and frantically starting more chicken stock lest I run out. And thanks for NOT sharing the cayenne ... details. MFJ Everything connects. The Universe is not THAT chaotic. Beauty can still be found in the most amazing places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 As Suze noted, Getoff was light on references (and actually, a bit light overall for such an important topic). That said, here's what I have: Lancet, 1989 (he didn't supply issue or pages): Study showing changes in infant formula, relating to the cis-3 and cis-4 isomers and others; authors believed such changes would cause structural, neurological and immunological damage; and believed such modified compounds to be both nephrotoxic and hepatotoxic. Journal of Pediatrics, 1992: Study of microwave to thaw frozen breastmilk to be used for infant feeding. 56% of immunoglobulins were destroyed if milk heated " traditionally " (I suppose in a pan of warm water), but much lower heat destroyed the immunoglobulines in the microwave. (This is the study that resulted in hospitals no longer thawing infant formula or breastmilk in the microwave.) 1991 was the year that Norma Levitt was killed by a transfusion of microwaved blood. (Acres USA 1994, Nexus 1995, Journal of Natural Science 1998) Poultry Science, 1981, 60 (10):2258-64, study showing that the plasticizer acetyl-tributylcitrate in plastic wrap migrates into poultry during microwave cooking. Journal of Contaminants, 1987, published a study showing that plastics migrated into numerous foods when cooked in microwave, even if a sheet of plastic was merely laid over the top of the dish; this was true particularly for foods high in fat. Food Additive Contaminants, 1991 (?), ESCO, a plasticizer used in packagain foods, including coatings on the interior surface of metal cans. This was shown to leach into foods, even when used as a seal on a glass bottle of water. Dept. of Chemistry at the University of Ioannuna, Greece (Z Lebensm Ubters Forsch 1996, April; 292 (4): 303-07) conducted a study showing that acetyltributrate from Saran Wrap migrated into both olive oil and distilled water, and stated that such plastic wraps " should not be used in direct contact wiht food in the microwave oven. " That's it...hope it helps you get the microwave out of the house! Best, B. > > > Numerous published studies mentioned (Lancet, Journal of > Pediatrics, etc.) showing damage to food. > > , > > Did you happen to get specific references to the journal articles? > I'm trying to convince my wife to dump the microwave, and she's much > more likely to pay attention if I can show her mainstream medical > evidence that it causes damage. > > Many thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/6/04 11:39:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, slethnobotanist@... writes: Apparently Sally Fallon was born in the exact same Santa hospital that Weston Price died in, only the day before. ____ ~~~~> Yes, and that day he not only died, but expressed his dying words, " You teach, you teach, you teach! " Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 My OH has some info on microwaving on one of his sites, that he compiled from various places, that might help http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/wheels/sift/microwave.htm deb > > > >> Numerous published studies mentioned (Lancet, Journal of > >Pediatrics, etc.) showing damage to food. > > > >, > > > >Did you happen to get specific references to the journal articles? > >I'm trying to convince my wife to dump the microwave, and she's much > >more likely to pay attention if I can show her mainstream medical > >evidence that it causes damage. > > > >Many thanks, > > > > > > Getoff offered very little on the way of citations. I was disappointed. > > Suze Fisher > Lapdog Design, Inc. > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org > > ---------------------------- > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > <http://www.thincs.org> > ---------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 The obvious answer is for EVERYONE to eat lots of garlic! Aven > When I was living in California, my roommate and I would have a big > HUGE salad everyday with LOTS of garlic, 6,7,8 cloves or more. It was > yummy. We didn't realize until much later that nearly everyone could > smell us a mile away, lol! We must have freaked out our classmates and > instructors. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 > > As Suze noted, Getoff was light on references (and actually, a > bit light overall for such an important topic). That said, here's what > I have: [snip] A thousand thanks, ! This is great! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 I'm curious to know what was offered as far as meals?? Did anyone attend the banquet or any other meals? What was the menu? Nanette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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