Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/6oevp Thu Sep 2,11:11 AM ET BANGKOK (AFP) - Drinking urine can eliminate sinus trouble, turn grey hair black and even cure cancer, a Thai academic said, citing a study of local Buddhists who engage in the unorthodox practice. Ratree Cheepudomwit, of the Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine Development Department, said hundreds of urine drinkers attested that consuming a daily cup worked wonders for their overall health and helped slow the ageing process. She said that in June she queried 250 members of Santi Asoke, a strict indigenous Buddhist movement believed to have thousands of followers, and 204 respondents said they had learned from ancient Buddhist manucripts that drinking one's urine improved health. " Of the respondents, 87 percent confirmed that it had head-to-toe benefits for them, including for example reduction of dandruff, grey hair, sinus problems and cancer, " Ratree told AFP. The medical elixir was not easy on everyone's system, as about one in 10 urine drinkers suffered diarrhea afterwards, but the practice should not be viewed with disgust, she said. " Other groups of people who drank urine were Buddhist monks who practised in accordance to scriptures which are more than 2,500 years old, " she said. Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! http://tinyurl.com/439vl Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. " They told just the same, That just because a tyrant has the might By force of arms to murder men downright And burn down house and home and leave all flat They call the man a captain, just for that. But since an outlaw with his little band Cannot bring half such mischief on the land Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, He only earns the title of a thief. " --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Okay give me a moment...............please.......................YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay there I am better now. As a nurse I can not think of one positive health benefit from drinking urine, plus not to mention all of the diseases that can be housed in the urine itself. Urine is nothing more than the waste products of the blood. I am sorry.............. but here............ discretion should be the better part of STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eyes Rolling Back In My Head In Texas Brittany slethnobotanist@... wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6oevp Thu Sep 2,11:11 AM ET BANGKOK (AFP) - Drinking urine can eliminate sinus trouble, turn grey hair black and even cure cancer, a Thai academic said, citing a study of local Buddhists who engage in the unorthodox practice. Ratree Cheepudomwit, of the Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine Development Department, said hundreds of urine drinkers attested that consuming a daily cup worked wonders for their overall health and helped slow the ageing process. She said that in June she queried 250 members of Santi Asoke, a strict indigenous Buddhist movement believed to have thousands of followers, and 204 respondents said they had learned from ancient Buddhist manucripts that drinking one's urine improved health. " Of the respondents, 87 percent confirmed that it had head-to-toe benefits for them, including for example reduction of dandruff, grey hair, sinus problems and cancer, " Ratree told AFP. The medical elixir was not easy on everyone's system, as about one in 10 urine drinkers suffered diarrhea afterwards, but the practice should not be viewed with disgust, she said. " Other groups of people who drank urine were Buddhist monks who practised in accordance to scriptures which are more than 2,500 years old, " she said. Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! http://tinyurl.com/439vl Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. " They told just the same, That just because a tyrant has the might By force of arms to murder men downright And burn down house and home and leave all flat They call the man a captain, just for that. But since an outlaw with his little band Cannot bring half such mischief on the land Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, He only earns the title of a thief. " --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Micheal how can you possible advocate people not to vote. I think that is shameful. People have died to give you that freedom. Maybe this is a group I should not have joined. I hope that you do not speak for the majority on this group. Brittany Dollie Cain <dolliecain@...> wrote: Okay give me a moment...............please.......................YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay there I am better now. As a nurse I can not think of one positive health benefit from drinking urine, plus not to mention all of the diseases that can be housed in the urine itself. Urine is nothing more than the waste products of the blood. I am sorry.............. but here............ discretion should be the better part of STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eyes Rolling Back In My Head In Texas Brittany slethnobotanist@... wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6oevp Thu Sep 2,11:11 AM ET BANGKOK (AFP) - Drinking urine can eliminate sinus trouble, turn grey hair black and even cure cancer, a Thai academic said, citing a study of local Buddhists who engage in the unorthodox practice. Ratree Cheepudomwit, of the Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine Development Department, said hundreds of urine drinkers attested that consuming a daily cup worked wonders for their overall health and helped slow the ageing process. She said that in June she queried 250 members of Santi Asoke, a strict indigenous Buddhist movement believed to have thousands of followers, and 204 respondents said they had learned from ancient Buddhist manucripts that drinking one's urine improved health. " Of the respondents, 87 percent confirmed that it had head-to-toe benefits for them, including for example reduction of dandruff, grey hair, sinus problems and cancer, " Ratree told AFP. The medical elixir was not easy on everyone's system, as about one in 10 urine drinkers suffered diarrhea afterwards, but the practice should not be viewed with disgust, she said. " Other groups of people who drank urine were Buddhist monks who practised in accordance to scriptures which are more than 2,500 years old, " she said. Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! http://tinyurl.com/439vl Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. " They told just the same, That just because a tyrant has the might By force of arms to murder men downright And burn down house and home and leave all flat They call the man a captain, just for that. But since an outlaw with his little band Cannot bring half such mischief on the land Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, He only earns the title of a thief. " --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 some people involved with traditional chinese medicine do drink urine. either as part of a long fast (no food or water), or as a general health measure, i have heard of older people drinking the urine of children. the type of fast isn't something well known in the west - the main difference is, the people who are sufficiently trained do not suffer health problems from the fast. Re: Cup of urine a day keeps ailments at bay > > Okay give me a moment...............please.......................YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay there I am better now. As a nurse I can not think of one positive health benefit from drinking urine, plus not to mention all of the diseases that can be housed in the urine itself. Urine is nothing more than the waste products of the blood. I am sorry.............. but here............ discretion should be the better part of STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Eyes Rolling Back In My Head In Texas > Brittany > > slethnobotanist@... wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/6oevp > > Thu Sep 2,11:11 AM ET > > BANGKOK (AFP) - Drinking urine can eliminate sinus trouble, turn grey hair black > and even cure cancer, a Thai academic said, citing a study of local > Buddhists who engage in the unorthodox practice. > > Ratree Cheepudomwit, of the Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine > Development Department, said hundreds of urine drinkers attested that > consuming a daily cup worked wonders for their overall health and helped > slow the ageing process. > > She said that in June she queried 250 members of Santi Asoke, a strict indigenous > Buddhist movement believed to have thousands of followers, and 204 > respondents said they had learned from ancient Buddhist manucripts that > drinking one's urine improved health. > > " Of the respondents, 87 percent confirmed that it had head-to-toe benefits for them, > including for example reduction of dandruff, grey hair, sinus problems > and cancer, " Ratree told AFP. > > The medical elixir was not easy on everyone's system, as about one in 10 urine > drinkers suffered diarrhea afterwards, but the practice should not be > viewed with disgust, she said. > > " Other groups of people who drank urine were Buddhist monks who practised in > accordance to scriptures which are more than 2,500 years old, " she said. > > > > Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! > http://tinyurl.com/439vl > > Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. > > " They told just the same, > That just because a tyrant has the might > By force of arms to murder men downright > And burn down house and home and leave all flat > They call the man a captain, just for that. > But since an outlaw with his little band > Cannot bring half such mischief on the land > Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, > He only earns the title of a thief. " > --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 > plus not to mention all of the diseases that can be housed in the urine itself. Urine is actually sterile in a healthy person. The components of sweat are exactlly the same as urine except for the nitrogenous compounds. The skin acts like a third kidney removing approximately 1/3 of the waste from the blood. : -) Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Urine is a waste product filtered by the kidneys. It seems best to leave those toxins alone and avoid redigesting them. Why would anyone retake the already processed waste? Go figure. Through the years there are many practices that have been passed down that are best left in the past and this seems to be one. My mom used to say folks will follow anything without thinking things through, it seems she was right on. Instead of drinking already dumper toxins how about some organic, non filtered, unsweetened, cleansing apple juice? Sharon.... Cup of urine a day keeps ailments at bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Dollie Cain " <dolliecain@...> > > Okay give me a moment...............please.......................YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay there I am better now. As a nurse I can not think of one positive health benefit from drinking urine, plus not to mention all of the diseases that can be housed in the urine itself. Urine is nothing more than the waste products of the blood. I am sorry.............. but here............ discretion should be the better part of STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Eyes Rolling Back In My Head In Texas > Brittany > And there's the medical establishment for you. The same people that told me eating raw meat would kill me. The fact of the matter is, people have practiced urine therapy for a long, long time. I never have, as I don't consider myself " clean " . But I hardly see it as an odd practice. -Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I think the theory is that it's essentially homeopathic. You're exposing yourself again to the already dead pathogens that your system has just gotten rid of, thus boosting the immune system. Sort of like a vaccine. Nevertheless, I think there are much better and more pleasant ways of boosting your immune system! I think I'll stick to homeopathic medicine and vitamins or something rather than go for the yellow stuff! > Urine is a waste product filtered by the kidneys. It seems best to leave those toxins alone and avoid redigesting them. Why would anyone retake the already processed waste? Go figure. Through the years there are many practices that have been passed down that are best left in the past and this seems to be one. My mom used to say folks will follow anything without thinking things through, it seems she was right on. Instead of drinking already dumper toxins how about some organic, non filtered, unsweetened, cleansing apple juice? > > Sharon.... > > > > Cup of urine a day keeps ailments at bay > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 > Okay give me a moment...............please.......................YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay there I am better now. As a nurse I can not think of one positive health benefit from drinking urine, plus not to mention all of the diseases that can be housed in the urine itself. Urine is nothing more than the waste products of the blood. I am sorry.............. but here............ discretion should be the better part of STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Eyes Rolling Back In My Head In Texas > Brittany Hi Brittany, Before you imply someone is stupid, you might want to look a bit deeper into the subject you are critiquing. My ND, who is an honorary board member of the Price Foundation, has used urine therapy as a mainstay in treating himself for Lyme disease. He believes it's helped him greatly in this regard. I also met a suigeon at the WAPF conference last year, and he too has used urine therapy with great benefit. It's not a widely-known practice, but there seem to be many folks using it succesfully. Amazon, btw, has several books on this subject. If you care about accurate information, then this group is definitely the place for you. But you will find that you might need to UNlearn much of what you've been taught by the conventional medical paradigm. It's not an easy process, but if you keep an open mind, and assert some analytical rigor, you'll understand why. Keep reading the posts, and shoot us any questions you might have. What may seem totally bizarre to you at first, when examined closely, just may turn out to have merit. Best, Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 ** cup passes in front of me ** " Um...(gulp)..I'll pass. Thanks. " -Ken Bagwell > News > > Cup of urine a day keeps ailments at bay > > Thu Sep 2,11:11 AM ET > > BANGKOK (AFP) - Drinking urine can eliminate sinus trouble, turn grey hair black and even cure cancer, a Thai academic said, citing a study of local Buddhists who engage in the unorthodox practice. > > Ratree Cheepudomwit, of the Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine Development Department, said hundreds of urine drinkers attested that consuming a daily cup worked wonders for their overall health and helped slow the ageing process. > > She said that in June she queried 250 members of Santi Asoke, a strict indigenous Buddhist movement believed to have thousands of followers, and 204 respondents said they had learned from ancient Buddhist manucripts that drinking one's urine improved health. > > " Of the respondents, 87 percent confirmed that it had head-to-toe benefits for them, including for example reduction of dandruff, grey hair, sinus problems and cancer, " Ratree told AFP. > > The medical elixir was not easy on everyone's system, as about one in 10 urine drinkers suffered diarrhea afterwards, but the practice should not be viewed with disgust, she said. > > " Other groups of people who drank urine were Buddhist monks who practised in accordance to scriptures which are more than 2,500 years old, " she said. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Ermm.... slowly raising hand. Well I *have* tried this. The main book on the subject is one called " Your own perfect medicine " though it is hugely coy and takes 150 pages to say " Americans! - Why Not Drink Your Own Piss? " . I do find it calming in times of stress, but never knocked back loads of the stuff over a long period, so it is hard to judge the " miracle cure " claims. I find it infinitely less revolting than eating raw liver - so I'm sure you'd all be able to knock it back without gagging. Cheers, Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 21:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Dollie Cain <dolliecain@...> wrote: > Okay give me a moment...............please.......................YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No > Okay there I am better now. Good > As a nurse I can not think of one positive health benefit from drinking urine, Well apparently there are several, though I for one have never tried it. I posted the article as an FYI piece. As for being a nurse, that certainly is no gold standard when it comes to legitimate nutritional information or other various health protocols. In fact it might be a downright hindrance :-) > plus not to mention all of the diseases that can be housed in the urine itself. Urine is nothing more than the waste products of the blood. I am sorry.............. but > here............ discretion should be the better part of STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Eyes Rolling Back In My Head In Texas > Brittany Thanks Brittany for your comments. Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! http://tinyurl.com/439vl Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. " They told just the same, That just because a tyrant has the might By force of arms to murder men downright And burn down house and home and leave all flat They call the man a captain, just for that. But since an outlaw with his little band Cannot bring half such mischief on the land Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, He only earns the title of a thief. " --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 21:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Dollie Cain <dolliecain@...> wrote: > Micheal how can you possible advocate people not to vote. I think that is shameful. People have died to give you that freedom. Maybe this is a group I should not have joined. I hope that you do not speak for the majority on this group. > > Brittany Hi Brittany, Since this group is organized around the principles of Weston Price, my political beliefs or lack thereof really has nothing to do with the value of this group. There are an extremely diverse number of viewpoints on this list in all areas, but we are bound by our common interests in native nutrition, not politics, or religion or any other topic. The article about voting is in my signature line, not the body of the message. Politics and religion and just about every other subject under the sun comes up on this list from time to time, usually as the result of a related nutrition thread, but for most of us it is not a make or break issue as regards to our participation on this board. It can be a lesson however in critical thinking, lol! Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! http://tinyurl.com/439vl Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. " They told just the same, That just because a tyrant has the might By force of arms to murder men downright And burn down house and home and leave all flat They call the man a captain, just for that. But since an outlaw with his little band Cannot bring half such mischief on the land Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, He only earns the title of a thief. " --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 23:30:57 -0600 " Bruce Stordock " <stordock@...> wrote: > > plus not to mention all of the diseases that can be housed in the urine > itself. > > > Urine is actually sterile in a healthy person. > The components of sweat are exactlly the same as urine except for the > nitrogenous compounds. > The skin acts like a third kidney removing approximately 1/3 of the waste from > the blood. > > : -) Bruce > Bruce, What about someone excreting metals like mercury into their urine? Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! http://tinyurl.com/439vl Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. " They told just the same, That just because a tyrant has the might By force of arms to murder men downright And burn down house and home and leave all flat They call the man a captain, just for that. But since an outlaw with his little band Cannot bring half such mischief on the land Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, He only earns the title of a thief. " --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 23:30:57 -0600 " Bruce Stordock " <stordock@...> wrote: > > plus not to mention all of the diseases that can be housed in the urine > itself. > > > Urine is actually sterile in a healthy person. > The components of sweat are exactlly the same as urine except for the > nitrogenous compounds. > The skin acts like a third kidney removing approximately 1/3 of the waste from > the blood. > > : -) Bruce > Well it seems to be more than just sterile. Here is something I found: In 1975, one of the founders of Miles Laboratories, Dr. A.H. Free, published his book Urinalysis in Clinical Laboratory Practice, in which he remarked that not only is urine a sterile body compound (purer than distilled water), but that " it is now recognized that urine contains thousands of compounds, and as new, more sensitive analytical tools evolve, it is quite certain that new constituents of urine will be recognized. " Among the urine constituents mentioned in Dr. Free's revealing treatise is a list of nutrients that will knock your socks off. As Dr. Free comments, the ingredients listed below are only a few critical nutrients found in urine: Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day Biotin ..... 35 mg/day Calcium ..... 23 mg/day Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day Cystine ..... 120 mg/day Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day Glucose ..... 100 mg/day Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day Glycine ..... 455 mg/day Inositol ..... 14 mg/day Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day Phosphorus, organic ..... 9 mg/day Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day As you read over this extraordinary list of nutritional elements, you can begin to understand why the stories you may have heard of people surviving on their own urine are true. But what about other elements in urine that you've heard about? Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! http://tinyurl.com/439vl Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. " They told just the same, That just because a tyrant has the might By force of arms to murder men downright And burn down house and home and leave all flat They call the man a captain, just for that. But since an outlaw with his little band Cannot bring half such mischief on the land Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, He only earns the title of a thief. " --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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