Re: Re: Training, DVD's and Books

[Guest guest]

Rob,

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/braintrainer/message/22678

You buy it by going to http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=37 and choosing the final item (Add per hour consultation), put 3 in the Quantity and process the order. Then e-mail me, and I'll send you the files. The workshop files are included, as is an hour of phone consultation with me when you have finished, so we can answer any questions.

Pete

Tony,purchase the next one what, video?You talk about a level 2 course, where is this available from and canI do it now or would I have to enrol and start when more people signup. How about level 1 course? I am a visual learner so I need to see

things like a video to learn from as I am dyslexic and written stuffis just so hard for me to learn. I can do it it's just a lot harder.Oh and how much does it cost?

..-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com

305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

[Guest guest]

Rob,

The Level 2 workshop is all about what activation patterns in the brain are expected to look like and what happens when they are other than expected. Most people find in useful in terms of understanding a little more about what they are looking for when they look at an EEG, how symptoms relate to those patterns and how they can be trained.

The description in the Online Workshops section (http://www.brain-trainer.com/workshops/online_workshops.html )

Level 2: Basic Assessment and Training (four 2 hour sessions, $325)

This workshop teaches how to understand brain activation patterns as they are identified in the TLC Assessment. Frequency/state relationships and the concept of Tone are presented. The assessment's Analyze, Heads and Report pages are covered as they relate to TLC's training categories. The workshop reviews each pattern, its basis in the brain, how it is seen in the EEG, related symptoms and training approaches. Detailed manual and Power Point slides are included.

There are 4 2-hour sessions. The first covers the general material on how frequencies relate to mental states and how the level of stress (as reflected in tone of the autonomic nervous system) affects activation patterns in the cortex and symptoms. The second session covers temporal lobe patterns. The third covers reversal problems and the blocking (frontal midline) patterns. The final session covers coherence and problems it indicates, as well as the two major cognitive categories (filterning and processing) related to ADHD and learning problems.

As for the phone consult, unless you don't have a telephone--or access to one you can use for an hour--it should not be a problem. As usual, I ask the client to give me a good time and phone number, and I call you. My phone service allows me to call pretty much anywhere in the world at no additional cost. But that's your choice.

Pete

Thanks for the reply Pete.Before I part with my hard earned cash, would you be so kind as togive me a few more details regarding the online course. Could yougive me a brief summary of the types of things that are covered.

Regarding the telephone consultation, I'm afraid that I would beunable to use that service.

.. -- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...

http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

[Guest guest]

Sorry

Rob thought because you had bought the First one of placing the electrodes you

looking at TLC already, they have level two training in Audio and powerpoint

$300 US I found it to be the most informative material I have come across so

far. Back Channel Pete maybe.

Cheers Tony

Training, DVD's and Books

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>

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> Dear all,

>

> I have been looking around the internet for some DVD's or on-line

> training that doesn't cost the earth.

>

> What are the recommendation's around here?

>

> I don't plan to do this as a career. It's more for my own personal

> interest and development so that I can perform an effective assessment

> on myself and know where on the head to place electrodes for various

> training.

>

> Is there such a thing as a book that has various conditions and it

> then shows you where on the head to place the electrodes to work on

> those conditions?

>

> I have already purchased the electrode placement video.

>

> Many thanks

>

> Rob

>

[Guest guest]

Ooops

sorry Pete already replied. Have fun

Cheers Tony

Re:

Training, DVD's and Books

Have signed up,

look forward to receiving the files.

Many thanks

Rob

>

> > Tony,

> > purchase the next one what, video?

> >

> > You talk about a level 2 course, where is this available from and can

> > I do it now or would I have to enrol and start when more people sign

> > up. How about level 1 course? I am a visual learner so I need to see

> > things like a video to learn from as I am dyslexic and written stuff

> > is just so hard for me to learn. I can do it it's just a lot harder.

> >

> > Oh and how much does it cost?

> > .

> >

> >

> --

> Van Deusen

> pvdtlc@...

> http://www.brain-trainer.com

> 305/433-3160

> The Learning Curve, Inc.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rob,

being one of the ones that pointed you in this direction, I am sorry you did

not get as much from the course as I thought. It does have a power point piece

to go with the narration. I think that if you were to look at one of your

sessions at the same time as listen to the dialogue on coherence you would pick

it up very quickly. I also played around whilst listening to the audio bringing

up different assessments to compare and correlate with what Pete was saying. I

think us as home leaners have to be a bit innovative to get the full benefit of

what Pete is saying. We can listen over and over to what he is saying to make

it stick. If you have done a few assessments and played with recordings etc I

think you will find it much easier to follow. Pete always seems willing to

answer any questions if you back channel him.

Cheers Tony

Re:

Training, DVD's and Books

Quick feedback

about the Level 2 course from TLC.

I found that the material was both very informative and the speaker

uses a lot of good analogies to explain difficult concepts.

However as I am a visual learner the lack of pictures and videos means

that I could only grasp about 20% of the lesson.

Only one criticism that I would make is that there are no pictures of

the eeg signals that are talked about on the lessons. For example,

showing the phase relationships of brainwaves to explain coherence.

I am a bit reluctant to purchasing the course for BioExplorer as I

feel I would need lots of pictures and videos to learn it.

Rob

> >

> > > Tony,

> > > purchase the next one what, video?

> > >

> > > You talk about a level 2 course, where is this available from

and can

> > > I do it now or would I have to enrol and start when more people

sign

> > > up. How about level 1 course? I am a visual learner so I need to

see

> > > things like a video to learn from as I am dyslexic and written

stuff

> > > is just so hard for me to learn. I can do it it's just a lot

harder.

> > >

> > > Oh and how much does it cost?

> > > .

> > >

> > >

> > --

> > Van Deusen

> > pvdtlc@

> > http://www.brain-trainer.com

> > 305/433-3160

> > The Learning Curve, Inc.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rob,

being one of the ones that pointed you in this direction, I am sorry you did

not get as much from the course as I thought. It does have a power point piece

to go with the narration. I think that if you were to look at one of your

sessions at the same time as listen to the dialogue on coherence you would pick

it up very quickly. I also played around whilst listening to the audio bringing

up different assessments to compare and correlate with what Pete was saying. I

think us as home leaners have to be a bit innovative to get the full benefit of

what Pete is saying. We can listen over and over to what he is saying to make

it stick. If you have done a few assessments and played with recordings etc I

think you will find it much easier to follow. Pete always seems willing to

answer any questions if you back channel him.

Cheers Tony

Re:

Training, DVD's and Books

Quick feedback

about the Level 2 course from TLC.

I found that the material was both very informative and the speaker

uses a lot of good analogies to explain difficult concepts.

However as I am a visual learner the lack of pictures and videos means

that I could only grasp about 20% of the lesson.

Only one criticism that I would make is that there are no pictures of

the eeg signals that are talked about on the lessons. For example,

showing the phase relationships of brainwaves to explain coherence.

I am a bit reluctant to purchasing the course for BioExplorer as I

feel I would need lots of pictures and videos to learn it.

Rob

> >

> > > Tony,

> > > purchase the next one what, video?

> > >

> > > You talk about a level 2 course, where is this available from

and can

> > > I do it now or would I have to enrol and start when more people

sign

> > > up. How about level 1 course? I am a visual learner so I need to

see

> > > things like a video to learn from as I am dyslexic and written

stuff

> > > is just so hard for me to learn. I can do it it's just a lot

harder.

> > >

> > > Oh and how much does it cost?

> > > .

> > >

> > >

> > --

> > Van Deusen

> > pvdtlc@

> > http://www.brain-trainer.com

> > 305/433-3160

> > The Learning Curve, Inc.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rob,

being one of the ones that pointed you in this direction, I am sorry you did

not get as much from the course as I thought. It does have a power point piece

to go with the narration. I think that if you were to look at one of your

sessions at the same time as listen to the dialogue on coherence you would pick

it up very quickly. I also played around whilst listening to the audio bringing

up different assessments to compare and correlate with what Pete was saying. I

think us as home leaners have to be a bit innovative to get the full benefit of

what Pete is saying. We can listen over and over to what he is saying to make

it stick. If you have done a few assessments and played with recordings etc I

think you will find it much easier to follow. Pete always seems willing to

answer any questions if you back channel him.

Cheers Tony

Re:

Training, DVD's and Books

Quick feedback

about the Level 2 course from TLC.

I found that the material was both very informative and the speaker

uses a lot of good analogies to explain difficult concepts.

However as I am a visual learner the lack of pictures and videos means

that I could only grasp about 20% of the lesson.

Only one criticism that I would make is that there are no pictures of

the eeg signals that are talked about on the lessons. For example,

showing the phase relationships of brainwaves to explain coherence.

I am a bit reluctant to purchasing the course for BioExplorer as I

feel I would need lots of pictures and videos to learn it.

Rob

> >

> > > Tony,

> > > purchase the next one what, video?

> > >

> > > You talk about a level 2 course, where is this available from

and can

> > > I do it now or would I have to enrol and start when more people

sign

> > > up. How about level 1 course? I am a visual learner so I need to

see

> > > things like a video to learn from as I am dyslexic and written

stuff

> > > is just so hard for me to learn. I can do it it's just a lot

harder.

> > >

> > > Oh and how much does it cost?

> > > .

> > >

> > >

> > --

> > Van Deusen

> > pvdtlc@

> > http://www.brain-trainer.com

> > 305/433-3160

> > The Learning Curve, Inc.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello... I am totally new to neurofeedback. I took a class with Pete (level 3). While I couldn't be happier with the quality, content or Pete's tireless effort at working with newbies, I do have a suggestion. The classes would be twice as powerful if Pete could show BioExplorer screen shots in real time. If there's a way to do that and then cut to the powerpoint presentation, those of us who learn visually would greatly benefit. I have the BE tutorial created. It's extremely clear and well thought out, yet not too useful to the totally green home trainer. I guess I don't understand enough about NF yet to make the material useful.

I will try and see if I can follow the powerpoint with the audio. Idid try reading everything individually.It's my fault really as I tend to switch off when I don't understandwhat is going on.

Rob > > >

> > > > Tony,> > > > purchase the next one what, video?> > > >> > > > You talk about a level 2 course, where is this available from> and can> > > > I do it now or would I have to enrol and start when more

people sign> > > > up. How about level 1 course? I am a visual learner so I needto see> > > > things like a video to learn from as I am dyslexic and writtenstuff> > > > is just so hard for me to learn. I can do it it's just a lot

harder.> > > >> > > > Oh and how much does it cost?> > > > .> > > >> > > >> > > -- > > > Van Deusen> > > pvdtlc@

> > > http://www.brain- <http://www.brain-trainer.com> trainer.com

> > > 305/433-3160> > > The Learning Curve, Inc.> > >> >>

-- LeahyM

[Guest guest]

Hello... I am totally new to neurofeedback. I took a class with Pete (level 3). While I couldn't be happier with the quality, content or Pete's tireless effort at working with newbies, I do have a suggestion. The classes would be twice as powerful if Pete could show BioExplorer screen shots in real time. If there's a way to do that and then cut to the powerpoint presentation, those of us who learn visually would greatly benefit. I have the BE tutorial created. It's extremely clear and well thought out, yet not too useful to the totally green home trainer. I guess I don't understand enough about NF yet to make the material useful.

I will try and see if I can follow the powerpoint with the audio. Idid try reading everything individually.It's my fault really as I tend to switch off when I don't understandwhat is going on.

Rob > > >

> > > > Tony,> > > > purchase the next one what, video?> > > >> > > > You talk about a level 2 course, where is this available from> and can> > > > I do it now or would I have to enrol and start when more

people sign> > > > up. How about level 1 course? I am a visual learner so I needto see> > > > things like a video to learn from as I am dyslexic and writtenstuff> > > > is just so hard for me to learn. I can do it it's just a lot

harder.> > > >> > > > Oh and how much does it cost?> > > > .> > > >> > > >> > > -- > > > Van Deusen> > > pvdtlc@

> > > http://www.brain- <http://www.brain-trainer.com> trainer.com

> > > 305/433-3160> > > The Learning Curve, Inc.> > >> >>

-- LeahyM

[Guest guest]

Hello... I am totally new to neurofeedback. I took a class with Pete (level 3). While I couldn't be happier with the quality, content or Pete's tireless effort at working with newbies, I do have a suggestion. The classes would be twice as powerful if Pete could show BioExplorer screen shots in real time. If there's a way to do that and then cut to the powerpoint presentation, those of us who learn visually would greatly benefit. I have the BE tutorial created. It's extremely clear and well thought out, yet not too useful to the totally green home trainer. I guess I don't understand enough about NF yet to make the material useful.

I will try and see if I can follow the powerpoint with the audio. Idid try reading everything individually.It's my fault really as I tend to switch off when I don't understandwhat is going on.

Rob > > >

> > > > Tony,> > > > purchase the next one what, video?> > > >> > > > You talk about a level 2 course, where is this available from> and can> > > > I do it now or would I have to enrol and start when more

people sign> > > > up. How about level 1 course? I am a visual learner so I needto see> > > > things like a video to learn from as I am dyslexic and writtenstuff> > > > is just so hard for me to learn. I can do it it's just a lot

harder.> > > >> > > > Oh and how much does it cost?> > > > .> > > >> > > >> > > -- > > > Van Deusen> > > pvdtlc@

> > > http://www.brain- <http://www.brain-trainer.com> trainer.com

> > > 305/433-3160> > > The Learning Curve, Inc.> > >> >>

-- LeahyM

[Guest guest]

Rob,

I think it's been mentioned in the various e-mails that have been on the list from others who have purchased this file and from me, that it is a recording of an online workshop--that would be a PowerPoint presentation--an Excel file that is used as an example--and the recordings of what I presented over the phone. Just listening to the audio without tracking the visual material could easily diminish the value of the material.

I'm sorry you're finding this confusing. I've removed the original PowerPoint file from the folder, so future users won't have this problem. The one called " L2 online " would be the one you should use when listening to the audio files L2online1, 2, 3 and 4.

If you have any future questions about the files or how to use them, feel free to contact me at pvdtlc@.... And remember that your purchase includes an hour of phone consult.

Pete

Surprisingly following the powerpoint whilst listening to the audiohas helped a great deal and I'm now understanding a lot more from theaudio. I still find it a bit tricky knowing when to change the slide.

Even more confusing is that there are 2 powerpoints to follow.

.._

-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.