Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 >>>Six months ago I visited my ND to fix my digestive system and basically get me on the right track nutritionally speaking (after that I learned about NN, NT and WAPF and have taken myself much further in the right direction). One of the things she did was put me on probiotic supplements (PhytoPharmica's 'pearls') for three months. Then she said I should only take them before, during and after taking antibiotics (for surgery or something like that). But THEN I heard that I should be taking probiotics every day (the person who told me takes Primal Defense every day). Does anyone have any ideas? Probiotics every day, or just on " special occasions " ?<<< If you're following the recommendations of NN, NT and WAPF and eating fermented foods every day, you'd be getting lot's of probiotics, anyway. Cheers, Tas'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 > Does anyone have any ideas? Probiotics every day, or just on " special occasions " ?<<< > > > If you're following the recommendations of NN, NT and WAPF and eating fermented foods every day, you'd be getting lot's of probiotics, anyway. > > Cheers, > Tas'. , what do you think about taking probiotic supplements along with antibiotics after surgery? Or more specifically, what do you think about taking antibiotics for minor surgery that can be done in the doctor's office? I'm getting a cyst removed from my head later this month (local anasthesia, one or two stitches) and want to make sure I'm doing the right thing for my health! Any insights would be most appreciated! Selena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 >>>, what do you think about taking probiotic supplements along with antibiotics after surgery? Or more specifically, what do you think about taking antibiotics for minor surgery that can be done in the doctor's office? I'm getting a cyst removed from my head later this month (local anasthesia, one or two stitches) and want to make sure I'm doing the right thing for my health! Any insights would be most appreciated!<<< Personally, I wouldn't for fear of candida, etc, but how is your immune system at the moment (with regards to the cancer/treatment)? A healthy person shouldn't need it (for minor surgery, at least) - assuming the doctor uses sterile equipment, etc. - but if your immune system is already compromised, it could be a different matter. Cheers, Tas'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 > Personally, I wouldn't for fear of candida, etc, but how is your immune system at the moment (with regards to the cancer/treatment)? A healthy person shouldn't need it (for minor surgery, at least) - assuming the doctor uses sterile equipment, etc. - but if your immune system is already compromised, it could be a different matter. > > Cheers, > Tas'. > My immune system is not too bad at the moment, definitely on a steady incline since I went " native " about three months ago and I'm slowly (but surely!) incorporating more NT and WAPF ways of eating/preparing food. I ended chemo/radiation in the summer of 2002 and quit tamoxifen three months ago. So, though I feel pretty good, I can't say for sure what's going on inside. Thanks! S P.S. What does Tas' mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 >>>P.S. What does Tas' mean?<<< Short for Tasmania :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Hi Selena, I never heard of antibiotics being given after a surgery. Did the doctor recommend it? It seems to me that if the operating environment is kept clean, you shouldn't have to worry about that. But I could be wrong. If you do take them, I'd recommend waiting for a few days after you stop, to give the antibiotics a chance to clear out of the body, before you take the probiotics. Otherwise you'll just kill them off. I've been taking probiotics every day lately, twice a day. I seem to be doing considerably better lately, so I've ventured into a few foods I haven't eaten in a while. Sweet corn and popcorn in small amounts, every other day, doesn't seem to bother me at all. Same with small amounts of watermelon. I also started using oil of oregano. The darned stuff doesn't mix with water, it just floats. I stir it up to disperse it over the surface and slurp the surface liquid first. The oregano oil really burns my throat. I wonder if it would work to mix it in with olive oil instead of water? At least it will mix with that. Zack On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, selenat2004 wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions about taking probiotic supplements > along with antibiotics after surgery? Or more specifically, what do you > think about taking antibiotics for minor surgery that can be done in > the doctor's office? I basically shy away from antibiotics in general, > but I'm getting a cyst removed from my head later this month (local > anasthesia, one or two stitches) and want to make sure I'm doing > the right thing for my health! Any insights would be most appreciated! > > Also, does anyone here take probiotic supplements every day, or just as > needed? > > Thanks! > Selena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Dear Selena, >>>Does anyone have any suggestions about taking probiotic supplements along with antibiotics after surgery? Or more specifically, what do you think about taking antibiotics for minor surgery that can be done in the doctor's office? ==>It seems the medical profession is running scared regarding infections and IMO are over prescribing, mainly to cover their own " you know what. " Did you know that when antibiotics first came out they were coated with nystatin; because " they knew " it caused yeast overgrowth. lo? I had 12 teeth removed under anesthetic at one time, but I took no antibiotics or pain killers and my dentist was amazed at how fast I healed and asked what I did. I took mega vitamin C, B complex, vit. A, E & D and cal/mag. In any case I believe you heal faster without antibiotics and pain killers. My daughter did the same as I did after having her appendix out, and again she healed so quick the doctor was amazed. Garlic and cloves are also great healers. If you do take antibiotics, take probiotics the same day but about 3 hours apart from the antibiotics. >>>Also, does anyone here take probiotic supplements every day, or just as needed? ==>It is recommended you take probiotics every day. I do. The idea is to kill candida every day and also consistently plant good bacteria every day. Probiotics are taken at different times and usually alone (about 1 hour before meals, or 3 hours after meals) four times a day and at a different time than antifungals. If you can get a chance read my article (in the Files on our left side-bar) which had a lot of information about antifungals and probiotics. I hope that helps you Selena. The best to you, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 > Re: probiotic supplements > >, what do you think about taking probiotic supplements >along with antibiotics >after surgery? Or more specifically, what do you think about >taking antibiotics for >minor surgery that can be done in the doctor's office? I'm getting >a cyst removed from >my head later this month (local anasthesia, one or two stitches) >and want to make >sure I'm doing the right thing for my health! Any insights would >be most appreciated! > >Selena Hi Selena, If I were in your shoes I'd be loading up on probiotics and probiotic-rich foods! I'd get Primal Defense ASAP and consider brewing AEM, which is a home brewed probiotic drink with a similar microbial profile to PD. If you take antibiotics for your surgery, be sure to take probiotics several hours later (so that the antibiotic doesn't destroy the probiotic). Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 " The darned stuff doesn't mix with water " Zack The oregano oil should mix with kefir or yoghourt. That way it wont burn your throat. Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Thanks, Irene. I tried it with olive oil (3 drops oregano oil to a tablespoon of olive oil) and it actually worked quite well. Tasted a lot better and didn't hardly burn my throat. I still smelled like a salad for an hour, though ... :-} Zack On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Irena Sprey wrote: > " The darned stuff doesn't mix with water " > > Zack > > The oregano oil should mix with kefir or yoghourt. That way it wont burn > your throat. > Irene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Hi Zack and Selena, It's been my (bad!) experience that hospitals, as a matter of course, regularly give out antibiotics after hospital stays or even after light " day " surgeries. My neighbor just had a face lift and was given a two week course of Cipro " just in case " she picked up an infection in the clinic. All the troubles that led me to this fine group of Candida overgrowth sufferers started with a hospital visit where antibiotics were given in the drips and then another batch given when I was released and then yet another two batches soon after my release when they discovered what kind of bacteria I'd been infected with. (Of course I didn't know what I know now and actually trusted the doctors.) Antibiotics are given out like candy to cover their a--s in case a patient gets infected. Shame on them! ~Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Oh. And I agree with Zack. Wait until you're finished with the antibiotics and then within a day of the last pill I'd start taking probiotics and eating yogurt and other fermented foods throughout the day for at least a few weeks. You should be fine. ~Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/6gzqa - this one was developed by Viktoras Kulvinskas (the author of " Survival Into the 21st Century " , " Don't Dine Without Enzymes " , and many other books, and was co-founder with Ann Wigmore of the Hippocrates Health Institute), and the late food scientist Dr. Khem Shahani, one of the world's leading research authorities on gastrointestinal bacteria) > > What brand(s) do you recommend? And where is it offered? > -richard- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thank you very much. I've used Glutapak R inpatient but it is quite expensive and wanted to find something easier to find and more economical. I appreciate your help and i'll definitely look into it. > > > , > > Solgar makes a powdered acidophilus product. > > > > > From: jenniferangus76@... > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:50:03 +0000 > Subject: probiotic supplements > > > > > > > > I generally use probiotics during the pre and post, and was wondering if anyone is aware of a otc powder or liquid (not food source) that is easy to find. Thanks in advance. > > Angus, MSRDLDN > Vanderbilt Surgical Weight Loss Center > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2\ _042009 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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