Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 > I used to lay in bed and obsessively think about things... The days after her. She gets into my pyche. Scrabbles my thought processes. What did I do wrong, how could I have handle her better, why wouldn't she except my love. I obsess. She's in my head and I can't get her out. I don't suffer insomnia. Quite the opposite, I sleep to shut my thoughts up. I become depressed and sleep my life away. j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 > I used to lay in bed and obsessively think about things... The days after her. She gets into my pyche. Scrabbles my thought processes. What did I do wrong, how could I have handle her better, why wouldn't she except my love. I obsess. She's in my head and I can't get her out. I don't suffer insomnia. Quite the opposite, I sleep to shut my thoughts up. I become depressed and sleep my life away. j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 > I used to lay in bed and obsessively think about things... The days after her. She gets into my pyche. Scrabbles my thought processes. What did I do wrong, how could I have handle her better, why wouldn't she except my love. I obsess. She's in my head and I can't get her out. I don't suffer insomnia. Quite the opposite, I sleep to shut my thoughts up. I become depressed and sleep my life away. j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 j, It sounds like you're feeling pretty low. There's no quick fix, but I want you to know that I've felt that way too. And I also want you to know that there is a way out. You have a lot of healing to do, and it's going to take time. Be kind to your body and soul, and give it that time. Being here on this list, in therapy and reading about BPD will do you a lot of good. Take your time, but know that there is a light at the end of this tunnel, and lots of friends along the way -- you are not alone. Hugs, Anon --- clueless99us@... wrote: > > I used to lay in bed and obsessively think about things... > > > The days after her. She gets into my pyche. Scrabbles my thought > processes. What did I do wrong, how could I have handle her better, > why wouldn't she except my love. I obsess. She's in my head and I > can't get her out. I don't suffer insomnia. Quite the opposite, I > sleep to shut my thoughts up. I become depressed and sleep my life > away. > > j __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 j, It sounds like you're feeling pretty low. There's no quick fix, but I want you to know that I've felt that way too. And I also want you to know that there is a way out. You have a lot of healing to do, and it's going to take time. Be kind to your body and soul, and give it that time. Being here on this list, in therapy and reading about BPD will do you a lot of good. Take your time, but know that there is a light at the end of this tunnel, and lots of friends along the way -- you are not alone. Hugs, Anon --- clueless99us@... wrote: > > I used to lay in bed and obsessively think about things... > > > The days after her. She gets into my pyche. Scrabbles my thought > processes. What did I do wrong, how could I have handle her better, > why wouldn't she except my love. I obsess. She's in my head and I > can't get her out. I don't suffer insomnia. Quite the opposite, I > sleep to shut my thoughts up. I become depressed and sleep my life > away. > > j __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 j, It sounds like you're feeling pretty low. There's no quick fix, but I want you to know that I've felt that way too. And I also want you to know that there is a way out. You have a lot of healing to do, and it's going to take time. Be kind to your body and soul, and give it that time. Being here on this list, in therapy and reading about BPD will do you a lot of good. Take your time, but know that there is a light at the end of this tunnel, and lots of friends along the way -- you are not alone. Hugs, Anon --- clueless99us@... wrote: > > I used to lay in bed and obsessively think about things... > > > The days after her. She gets into my pyche. Scrabbles my thought > processes. What did I do wrong, how could I have handle her better, > why wouldn't she except my love. I obsess. She's in my head and I > can't get her out. I don't suffer insomnia. Quite the opposite, I > sleep to shut my thoughts up. I become depressed and sleep my life > away. > > j __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 This is great information. I will investigate to see if my sleep disorder is thyroid related. I do not think it is. I have no problems falling asleep. If I wake up I am aware of that and go to the bathroom and then back to bed and asleep. I know that I sometimes snore and have very slight sleep apnea. My adrenals are nearly depleted, but if I am sitting and watching TV I fall asleep at 9:00 and more awake at 10:00. I probably should try to go to bed at 9:00 ... I am very tired this week and have had lots of stress. Stress just makes me tired. I'm sure this is an adrenal thing. I see my doc this afternoon... we'll see what she says... And I'm going to get her to order a Thyroid Panel II. She already ordered the lipids etc. She just ordered the wrong Thyroid test. -Ruth -----Original Message-----From: lkwetter Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:43 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: InsomniaI just wanted to add a little something about insomnia and thryoid treatment. I really suffered with this when I started and could sleep no more than an hour or two for several months. I got addicted to sleap aids and in general when I look back on it, they really didn't do that much for me other than addict me. Anyway, I wanted to add a tip of one thing that has been working for me. If you find that you are waking somewhere between 12:00 and 3:00 and are miserable with aches or have a racing mind, then if you take an IsoCort or 1/2 to 1 Nutri+meds adrenal tablet, it will probably help. Adrenal hormones are cyclic in the day. Their highest output is in the morning after you get up and their lowest point is about 2:00 after midnight. I have found that it is very common for adrenal hormone levels to drop too low at around 2:00 or a little earlier in adrenal fatigue. Then you become achy, restless and miserable. Cortisol from the adrenals controls inflammation and so when there isn't enough, you can get miserable. Anyway, if I take a little adrenal support then, I will go back to sleep and often it amazingly calms my mind, too.Another thing to keep in mind is that if you wait to go to bed untill after 10:00, this can make it difficult to go to sleep. The reason is that the body is actually programmed to go to sleep before that time and body temperatures start to drop around 8:00, melatonin begins to rise at around 9:00 to reach it's peak at 10:00, and other things happen to prepare you for sleep before 10:00. So, if you wait untill after 10:00, your body can actually start to wake up a bit and melatonin can be lost by watching TV (light destroys it), Cortisol can drop enough to give you hypoglycemia and make you enough hungry and uncomfortable not to be able to fall asleep. The cunnundrum is that if you have adrenal fatigue, you often feel your best at 9:00 and are not sleepy at all. Adrenal fatigue, if bad enough, causes you to loose your circadian rythem, because it plays a role in the seratonin/melatonin cycle.You can also experiment and add a little extra thryoid before bed. TSH, the hormone from the pituitary that stimulates the thyroid to make hormone, naturally rises at night. It is thought that more thyroid is needed at night for repairs and maintainance of the body. I found that when I was on only 2 grains of Armour, I would wake with tight painful muscles due to my thryoid levels dropping too low and depriving them of sufficient energy and oxygen. Once I got my dose above 3 grains, this problem mostly went away. However, I have found that it also helps to take a little extra at night. So, I take 1 grain in the morning, 1 grain at 1:30 in the afternoon, and 1-1/2 at night (3-1/2 total).Other tips for insomnia are: -have a healthy snack by your bedside for hypoglycemia wakings.-Get an herbal sleep aid or make your own herbal sleep tea and keep it by your bedside for times when you wake.-I have used antihistamine sleep aids like doxylamine succinate, but people should be aware that anithistamines occupy thyroid receptor sites and cause thryoid blood levels to drop slightly. Others destroy thryoid hormone by glycating it, and the byproducts of antihistamine breakdown in the body are toxic to the thyroid, liver and kidneys. Antihistamines do relax muscles and that is their great benifit.-learn meditation. Meditation creates brain patterns very similar to sleep and so are healing even if you don't sleep.-try the amino acid glycine before bed. This amino acid is calming and is the building block of very important proteins that protect the body from oxidative damage. One very important substance glycine is used by the body for is glutathionine. Glycine is good for the kidneys and brain and can raise growth hormone slightly, which may become low in people with thyroid problems and can interfere with sleep.Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 This is great information. I will investigate to see if my sleep disorder is thyroid related. I do not think it is. I have no problems falling asleep. If I wake up I am aware of that and go to the bathroom and then back to bed and asleep. I know that I sometimes snore and have very slight sleep apnea. My adrenals are nearly depleted, but if I am sitting and watching TV I fall asleep at 9:00 and more awake at 10:00. I probably should try to go to bed at 9:00 ... I am very tired this week and have had lots of stress. Stress just makes me tired. I'm sure this is an adrenal thing. I see my doc this afternoon... we'll see what she says... And I'm going to get her to order a Thyroid Panel II. She already ordered the lipids etc. She just ordered the wrong Thyroid test. -Ruth -----Original Message-----From: lkwetter Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:43 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: InsomniaI just wanted to add a little something about insomnia and thryoid treatment. I really suffered with this when I started and could sleep no more than an hour or two for several months. I got addicted to sleap aids and in general when I look back on it, they really didn't do that much for me other than addict me. Anyway, I wanted to add a tip of one thing that has been working for me. If you find that you are waking somewhere between 12:00 and 3:00 and are miserable with aches or have a racing mind, then if you take an IsoCort or 1/2 to 1 Nutri+meds adrenal tablet, it will probably help. Adrenal hormones are cyclic in the day. Their highest output is in the morning after you get up and their lowest point is about 2:00 after midnight. I have found that it is very common for adrenal hormone levels to drop too low at around 2:00 or a little earlier in adrenal fatigue. Then you become achy, restless and miserable. Cortisol from the adrenals controls inflammation and so when there isn't enough, you can get miserable. Anyway, if I take a little adrenal support then, I will go back to sleep and often it amazingly calms my mind, too.Another thing to keep in mind is that if you wait to go to bed untill after 10:00, this can make it difficult to go to sleep. The reason is that the body is actually programmed to go to sleep before that time and body temperatures start to drop around 8:00, melatonin begins to rise at around 9:00 to reach it's peak at 10:00, and other things happen to prepare you for sleep before 10:00. So, if you wait untill after 10:00, your body can actually start to wake up a bit and melatonin can be lost by watching TV (light destroys it), Cortisol can drop enough to give you hypoglycemia and make you enough hungry and uncomfortable not to be able to fall asleep. The cunnundrum is that if you have adrenal fatigue, you often feel your best at 9:00 and are not sleepy at all. Adrenal fatigue, if bad enough, causes you to loose your circadian rythem, because it plays a role in the seratonin/melatonin cycle.You can also experiment and add a little extra thryoid before bed. TSH, the hormone from the pituitary that stimulates the thyroid to make hormone, naturally rises at night. It is thought that more thyroid is needed at night for repairs and maintainance of the body. I found that when I was on only 2 grains of Armour, I would wake with tight painful muscles due to my thryoid levels dropping too low and depriving them of sufficient energy and oxygen. Once I got my dose above 3 grains, this problem mostly went away. However, I have found that it also helps to take a little extra at night. So, I take 1 grain in the morning, 1 grain at 1:30 in the afternoon, and 1-1/2 at night (3-1/2 total).Other tips for insomnia are: -have a healthy snack by your bedside for hypoglycemia wakings.-Get an herbal sleep aid or make your own herbal sleep tea and keep it by your bedside for times when you wake.-I have used antihistamine sleep aids like doxylamine succinate, but people should be aware that anithistamines occupy thyroid receptor sites and cause thryoid blood levels to drop slightly. Others destroy thryoid hormone by glycating it, and the byproducts of antihistamine breakdown in the body are toxic to the thyroid, liver and kidneys. Antihistamines do relax muscles and that is their great benifit.-learn meditation. Meditation creates brain patterns very similar to sleep and so are healing even if you don't sleep.-try the amino acid glycine before bed. This amino acid is calming and is the building block of very important proteins that protect the body from oxidative damage. One very important substance glycine is used by the body for is glutathionine. Glycine is good for the kidneys and brain and can raise growth hormone slightly, which may become low in people with thyroid problems and can interfere with sleep.Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 This is great information. I will investigate to see if my sleep disorder is thyroid related. I do not think it is. I have no problems falling asleep. If I wake up I am aware of that and go to the bathroom and then back to bed and asleep. I know that I sometimes snore and have very slight sleep apnea. My adrenals are nearly depleted, but if I am sitting and watching TV I fall asleep at 9:00 and more awake at 10:00. I probably should try to go to bed at 9:00 ... I am very tired this week and have had lots of stress. Stress just makes me tired. I'm sure this is an adrenal thing. I see my doc this afternoon... we'll see what she says... And I'm going to get her to order a Thyroid Panel II. She already ordered the lipids etc. She just ordered the wrong Thyroid test. -Ruth -----Original Message-----From: lkwetter Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:43 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: InsomniaI just wanted to add a little something about insomnia and thryoid treatment. I really suffered with this when I started and could sleep no more than an hour or two for several months. I got addicted to sleap aids and in general when I look back on it, they really didn't do that much for me other than addict me. Anyway, I wanted to add a tip of one thing that has been working for me. If you find that you are waking somewhere between 12:00 and 3:00 and are miserable with aches or have a racing mind, then if you take an IsoCort or 1/2 to 1 Nutri+meds adrenal tablet, it will probably help. Adrenal hormones are cyclic in the day. Their highest output is in the morning after you get up and their lowest point is about 2:00 after midnight. I have found that it is very common for adrenal hormone levels to drop too low at around 2:00 or a little earlier in adrenal fatigue. Then you become achy, restless and miserable. Cortisol from the adrenals controls inflammation and so when there isn't enough, you can get miserable. Anyway, if I take a little adrenal support then, I will go back to sleep and often it amazingly calms my mind, too.Another thing to keep in mind is that if you wait to go to bed untill after 10:00, this can make it difficult to go to sleep. The reason is that the body is actually programmed to go to sleep before that time and body temperatures start to drop around 8:00, melatonin begins to rise at around 9:00 to reach it's peak at 10:00, and other things happen to prepare you for sleep before 10:00. So, if you wait untill after 10:00, your body can actually start to wake up a bit and melatonin can be lost by watching TV (light destroys it), Cortisol can drop enough to give you hypoglycemia and make you enough hungry and uncomfortable not to be able to fall asleep. The cunnundrum is that if you have adrenal fatigue, you often feel your best at 9:00 and are not sleepy at all. Adrenal fatigue, if bad enough, causes you to loose your circadian rythem, because it plays a role in the seratonin/melatonin cycle.You can also experiment and add a little extra thryoid before bed. TSH, the hormone from the pituitary that stimulates the thyroid to make hormone, naturally rises at night. It is thought that more thyroid is needed at night for repairs and maintainance of the body. I found that when I was on only 2 grains of Armour, I would wake with tight painful muscles due to my thryoid levels dropping too low and depriving them of sufficient energy and oxygen. Once I got my dose above 3 grains, this problem mostly went away. However, I have found that it also helps to take a little extra at night. So, I take 1 grain in the morning, 1 grain at 1:30 in the afternoon, and 1-1/2 at night (3-1/2 total).Other tips for insomnia are: -have a healthy snack by your bedside for hypoglycemia wakings.-Get an herbal sleep aid or make your own herbal sleep tea and keep it by your bedside for times when you wake.-I have used antihistamine sleep aids like doxylamine succinate, but people should be aware that anithistamines occupy thyroid receptor sites and cause thryoid blood levels to drop slightly. Others destroy thryoid hormone by glycating it, and the byproducts of antihistamine breakdown in the body are toxic to the thyroid, liver and kidneys. Antihistamines do relax muscles and that is their great benifit.-learn meditation. Meditation creates brain patterns very similar to sleep and so are healing even if you don't sleep.-try the amino acid glycine before bed. This amino acid is calming and is the building block of very important proteins that protect the body from oxidative damage. One very important substance glycine is used by the body for is glutathionine. Glycine is good for the kidneys and brain and can raise growth hormone slightly, which may become low in people with thyroid problems and can interfere with sleep.Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Tish Specifically, what exactly does Claritin do to the thyroid hormone? Which chemical changes does it do, or is it included in this? This is what I take, only when I feel I have to, usually for several months at a time, due to allergic symptoms. Insomnia > -I have used antihistamine sleep aids like doxylamine succinate, but > people should be aware that anithistamines occupy thyroid receptor > sites and cause thryoid blood levels to drop slightly. Others > destroy thryoid hormone by glycating it, and the byproducts of > antihistamine breakdown in the body are toxic to the thyroid, liver > and kidneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Tish Specifically, what exactly does Claritin do to the thyroid hormone? Which chemical changes does it do, or is it included in this? This is what I take, only when I feel I have to, usually for several months at a time, due to allergic symptoms. Insomnia > -I have used antihistamine sleep aids like doxylamine succinate, but > people should be aware that anithistamines occupy thyroid receptor > sites and cause thryoid blood levels to drop slightly. Others > destroy thryoid hormone by glycating it, and the byproducts of > antihistamine breakdown in the body are toxic to the thyroid, liver > and kidneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Tish Specifically, what exactly does Claritin do to the thyroid hormone? Which chemical changes does it do, or is it included in this? This is what I take, only when I feel I have to, usually for several months at a time, due to allergic symptoms. Insomnia > -I have used antihistamine sleep aids like doxylamine succinate, but > people should be aware that anithistamines occupy thyroid receptor > sites and cause thryoid blood levels to drop slightly. Others > destroy thryoid hormone by glycating it, and the byproducts of > antihistamine breakdown in the body are toxic to the thyroid, liver > and kidneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Ruth Did your doctor say that she ordered the wrong thyroid panel test, or are you assuming that she did. So many doctors don't believe in ordering the Panel II, both because they don't believe it necessary, and it is more expensive, i.e., insurance may not pay for it with some companies. Seems like so much is about money, either indirectly or directly. RE: Insomnia This is great information. I will investigate to see if my sleep disorder is thyroid related. I do not think it is. I have no problems falling asleep. If I wake up I am aware of that and go to the bathroom and then back to bed and asleep. I know that I sometimes snore and have very slight sleep apnea. My adrenals are nearly depleted, but if I am sitting and watching TV I fall asleep at 9:00 and more awake at 10:00. I probably should try to go to bed at 9:00 ... I am very tired this week and have had lots of stress. Stress just makes me tired. I'm sure this is an adrenal thing. I see my doc this afternoon... we'll see what she says... And I'm going to get her to order a Thyroid Panel II. She already ordered the lipids etc. She just ordered the wrong Thyroid test. -Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Ruth Did your doctor say that she ordered the wrong thyroid panel test, or are you assuming that she did. So many doctors don't believe in ordering the Panel II, both because they don't believe it necessary, and it is more expensive, i.e., insurance may not pay for it with some companies. Seems like so much is about money, either indirectly or directly. RE: Insomnia This is great information. I will investigate to see if my sleep disorder is thyroid related. I do not think it is. I have no problems falling asleep. If I wake up I am aware of that and go to the bathroom and then back to bed and asleep. I know that I sometimes snore and have very slight sleep apnea. My adrenals are nearly depleted, but if I am sitting and watching TV I fall asleep at 9:00 and more awake at 10:00. I probably should try to go to bed at 9:00 ... I am very tired this week and have had lots of stress. Stress just makes me tired. I'm sure this is an adrenal thing. I see my doc this afternoon... we'll see what she says... And I'm going to get her to order a Thyroid Panel II. She already ordered the lipids etc. She just ordered the wrong Thyroid test. -Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 She already ordered the lipids etc. ______________ If your cholesterol is high and blood profile not so good, low thryoid is the major cause of high cholesterol. Today a travesty is happening with doctors treating high cholesterol without looking at thyroid. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 She already ordered the lipids etc. ______________ If your cholesterol is high and blood profile not so good, low thryoid is the major cause of high cholesterol. Today a travesty is happening with doctors treating high cholesterol without looking at thyroid. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 She already ordered the lipids etc. ______________ If your cholesterol is high and blood profile not so good, low thryoid is the major cause of high cholesterol. Today a travesty is happening with doctors treating high cholesterol without looking at thyroid. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I couldn't find anything specific about claritin (loratadine), however, the drug information indicates that it is a problem for the thyroid and it seems to have the same warnigs against taking it associated with other antihistamines - liver, kidney and thryoid disease. _______________ • Before taking loratadine and pseudoephedrine, tell your doctor if you have · asthma or another lung disease; · diabetes; · thyroid problems; · glaucoma or increased pressure in the eye; · urinary retention or an enlarged prostate; · narrowing of the esophagus or gastrointestinal tract or difficulty swallowing; · kidney or liver disease; or · heart disease, high blood pressure, or an irregular heartbeat. ______________ I think if you are just aware that it changes thryoid homone levels and be sure to take your normal dose for tests, then your doctor will be adjusting your dose based on levels with using it. Thus, this should mean that you will be compensating for what it does. I don't know what to say about the other things antihistamines do. It's a tradeoff. If it helps you have a better quality of life and you sleep better, which is good for your health, it could easily be worth the little bit of damage it does. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I couldn't find anything specific about claritin (loratadine), however, the drug information indicates that it is a problem for the thyroid and it seems to have the same warnigs against taking it associated with other antihistamines - liver, kidney and thryoid disease. _______________ • Before taking loratadine and pseudoephedrine, tell your doctor if you have · asthma or another lung disease; · diabetes; · thyroid problems; · glaucoma or increased pressure in the eye; · urinary retention or an enlarged prostate; · narrowing of the esophagus or gastrointestinal tract or difficulty swallowing; · kidney or liver disease; or · heart disease, high blood pressure, or an irregular heartbeat. ______________ I think if you are just aware that it changes thryoid homone levels and be sure to take your normal dose for tests, then your doctor will be adjusting your dose based on levels with using it. Thus, this should mean that you will be compensating for what it does. I don't know what to say about the other things antihistamines do. It's a tradeoff. If it helps you have a better quality of life and you sleep better, which is good for your health, it could easily be worth the little bit of damage it does. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I just know she did by looking at the results, and I'm mystified because she is VERY alternative bent. she uses saliva tests and bio-identical hormones, vitamins and minerals, chinese medicine etc. And if I have to, I will go and get one myself. It may be the lab I went to, but I don't think so because she looked at the numbers and said my thyroid was "perfect." However, she is very focused on my adrenals... -Ruth -----Original Message-----From: Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:12 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Insomnia Ruth Did your doctor say that she ordered the wrong thyroid panel test, or are you assuming that she did. So many doctors don't believe in ordering the Panel II, both because they don't believe it necessary, and it is more expensive, i.e., insurance may not pay for it with some companies. Seems like so much is about money, either indirectly or directly. RE: Insomnia This is great information. I will investigate to see if my sleep disorder is thyroid related. I do not think it is. I have no problems falling asleep. If I wake up I am aware of that and go to the bathroom and then back to bed and asleep. I know that I sometimes snore and have very slight sleep apnea. My adrenals are nearly depleted, but if I am sitting and watching TV I fall asleep at 9:00 and more awake at 10:00. I probably should try to go to bed at 9:00 ... I am very tired this week and have had lots of stress. Stress just makes me tired. I'm sure this is an adrenal thing. I see my doc this afternoon... we'll see what she says... And I'm going to get her to order a Thyroid Panel II. She already ordered the lipids etc. She just ordered the wrong Thyroid test. -Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Funny thing... my good cholesterol shows that of a woman who runs marathons, and my bad cholesterol is high too, but several docs and a nutritionist said that the very high good cholesterol balances out the bad cholesterol. -Ruth -----Original Message-----From: lkwetter Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:09 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: InsomniaShe already ordered the lipids etc. ______________If your cholesterol is high and blood profile not so good, low thryoid is the major cause of high cholesterol. Today a travesty is happening with doctors treating high cholesterol without looking at thyroid.Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Funny thing... my good cholesterol shows that of a woman who runs marathons, and my bad cholesterol is high too, but several docs and a nutritionist said that the very high good cholesterol balances out the bad cholesterol. -Ruth -----Original Message-----From: lkwetter Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:09 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: InsomniaShe already ordered the lipids etc. ______________If your cholesterol is high and blood profile not so good, low thryoid is the major cause of high cholesterol. Today a travesty is happening with doctors treating high cholesterol without looking at thyroid.Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 I'm just wondering if they are rather talking about the pseudoephedrine component of the combination product here. It seems that they never say. I do know that they recommend against taking the pseudoephedrine when hyperthyroid, or when still in the throws of hypo. Since all the pollen seasons are officially mine (Spring is Cedar and Oak, Spring and Summer on up through the fall on the Gulf Coast are Grasses, then late Summer and Fall are Ragweed pollens), I'm in dire straits with the antihistamines. I'm hoping that the progesterone is going to help this, by a long shot. I haven't had any progesterone in my system for yrs now, and just started it a couple of wks ago. Re: Insomnia > > I couldn't find anything specific about claritin (loratadine), > however, the drug information indicates that it is a problem for the > thyroid and it seems to have the same warnigs against taking it > associated with other antihistamines - liver, kidney and thryoid > disease. > > _______________ > . Before taking loratadine and pseudoephedrine, tell your doctor if > you have > · asthma or another lung disease; > · diabetes; > · thyroid problems; > · glaucoma or increased pressure in the eye; > · urinary retention or an enlarged prostate; > · narrowing of the esophagus or gastrointestinal tract or > difficulty swallowing; > · kidney or liver disease; or > · heart disease, high blood pressure, or an irregular > heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 I'm just wondering if they are rather talking about the pseudoephedrine component of the combination product here. It seems that they never say. I do know that they recommend against taking the pseudoephedrine when hyperthyroid, or when still in the throws of hypo. Since all the pollen seasons are officially mine (Spring is Cedar and Oak, Spring and Summer on up through the fall on the Gulf Coast are Grasses, then late Summer and Fall are Ragweed pollens), I'm in dire straits with the antihistamines. I'm hoping that the progesterone is going to help this, by a long shot. I haven't had any progesterone in my system for yrs now, and just started it a couple of wks ago. Re: Insomnia > > I couldn't find anything specific about claritin (loratadine), > however, the drug information indicates that it is a problem for the > thyroid and it seems to have the same warnigs against taking it > associated with other antihistamines - liver, kidney and thryoid > disease. > > _______________ > . Before taking loratadine and pseudoephedrine, tell your doctor if > you have > · asthma or another lung disease; > · diabetes; > · thyroid problems; > · glaucoma or increased pressure in the eye; > · urinary retention or an enlarged prostate; > · narrowing of the esophagus or gastrointestinal tract or > difficulty swallowing; > · kidney or liver disease; or > · heart disease, high blood pressure, or an irregular > heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 I'm just wondering if they are rather talking about the pseudoephedrine component of the combination product here. It seems that they never say. I do know that they recommend against taking the pseudoephedrine when hyperthyroid, or when still in the throws of hypo. Since all the pollen seasons are officially mine (Spring is Cedar and Oak, Spring and Summer on up through the fall on the Gulf Coast are Grasses, then late Summer and Fall are Ragweed pollens), I'm in dire straits with the antihistamines. I'm hoping that the progesterone is going to help this, by a long shot. I haven't had any progesterone in my system for yrs now, and just started it a couple of wks ago. Re: Insomnia > > I couldn't find anything specific about claritin (loratadine), > however, the drug information indicates that it is a problem for the > thyroid and it seems to have the same warnigs against taking it > associated with other antihistamines - liver, kidney and thryoid > disease. > > _______________ > . Before taking loratadine and pseudoephedrine, tell your doctor if > you have > · asthma or another lung disease; > · diabetes; > · thyroid problems; > · glaucoma or increased pressure in the eye; > · urinary retention or an enlarged prostate; > · narrowing of the esophagus or gastrointestinal tract or > difficulty swallowing; > · kidney or liver disease; or > · heart disease, high blood pressure, or an irregular > heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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