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Is Allegra any different? I'm asking for my son, since he's on it at 7 years of age...

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Insomnia> -I have used antihistamine sleep aids like doxylamine succinate, but> people should be aware that anithistamines occupy thyroid receptor> sites and cause thryoid blood levels to drop slightly. Others> destroy thryoid hormone by glycating it, and the byproducts of> antihistamine breakdown in the body are toxic to the thyroid, liver> and kidneys.

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Is Allegra any different? I'm asking for my son, since he's on it at 7 years of age...

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Insomnia> -I have used antihistamine sleep aids like doxylamine succinate, but> people should be aware that anithistamines occupy thyroid receptor> sites and cause thryoid blood levels to drop slightly. Others> destroy thryoid hormone by glycating it, and the byproducts of> antihistamine breakdown in the body are toxic to the thyroid, liver> and kidneys.

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Is Allegra any different? I'm asking for my son, since he's on it at 7 years of age...

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Insomnia> -I have used antihistamine sleep aids like doxylamine succinate, but> people should be aware that anithistamines occupy thyroid receptor> sites and cause thryoid blood levels to drop slightly. Others> destroy thryoid hormone by glycating it, and the byproducts of> antihistamine breakdown in the body are toxic to the thyroid, liver> and kidneys.

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All allergy medications make me feel really strung out.

Usually, if I have to take one, I take Claritin, but I very carefully

slice it into fourths in the package, and I only dissolve one-fourth

on my tongue. That's just straight Claritin, mind you.

Claritin D would send me right over the edge into heart palpitation

land.

Courtenay.

I take Allegra, Claritin and a variety of other

antihistamines every day with no problem. I would have bigger problems

if I did not take them. It is a matter of

priorities.

" K. "

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All allergy medications make me feel really strung out.

Usually, if I have to take one, I take Claritin, but I very carefully

slice it into fourths in the package, and I only dissolve one-fourth

on my tongue. That's just straight Claritin, mind you.

Claritin D would send me right over the edge into heart palpitation

land.

Courtenay.

I take Allegra, Claritin and a variety of other

antihistamines every day with no problem. I would have bigger problems

if I did not take them. It is a matter of

priorities.

" K. "

wrote:

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All allergy medications make me feel really strung out.

Usually, if I have to take one, I take Claritin, but I very carefully

slice it into fourths in the package, and I only dissolve one-fourth

on my tongue. That's just straight Claritin, mind you.

Claritin D would send me right over the edge into heart palpitation

land.

Courtenay.

I take Allegra, Claritin and a variety of other

antihistamines every day with no problem. I would have bigger problems

if I did not take them. It is a matter of

priorities.

" K. "

wrote:

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It seems that getting information on individual antihistamines is

very hard to do. I suspect it has not been studied at all for many

of the new antihistamines. The older ones are known to lower thryoid

levels in the blood and to produce toxic metabolites. This seems

like an important thing to know since lowering thyroid hormone

levels in the blood can lower adrenal fucntion and ultimately worsen

allergies. Allergies are the result of improper adrenal response or

lowered adrenal function. Cortisol and other cortisones from

adrenals moderate allegic and inflammatory reactions and regulate

immune response to allergins.

According to some info I could find on Allegra, it stays intact and

is excreted as is in the urine. This should make it some safer

because it is not ending up as a toxic metabolite. However, I could

not find any information on whether it interfered with thyroid

function by oocupying receptor sites or damaging the hormones. Tish

http://www.australianprescriber.com/index.php?

content=/magazines/vol20no2/new_drugs.htm

Allegra (Fexofenadine hydrochloride)

Telfast (Hoechst n Roussel)

60 mg capsules

Indication: seasonal allergic rhinitis

There have been concerns about potentially fatal interactions

between terfenadine and drugs such as erythromycin. While there has

been debate about the mechanism of the interaction, this new product

aims to overcome the concerns.

Fexofenadine is a metabolite of terfenadine which is being marketed

as a non-sedating antihistamine without the risks of the parent

compound. One capsule can be taken up to twice a day for the relief

of symptoms.

The drug has a bioavailability of 33%, but the effect of food

appears not to be clinically significant. Most of the drug is

excreted unchanged in the urine with a terminal elimination half-

life of 11-16 hours. The pharmacokinetics are significantly affected

by interactions with erythromycin and ketoconazole; however, these

changes are not believed to increase the incidence of adverse

effects.

The adverse effects of fexofenadine include headache, nausea,

drowsiness and fatigue. Although fexofenadine seems to be well

tolerated, health professionals should be aware that its approval

was based on studies of two weeks' duration.

Fexofenadine will reduce the symptoms of seasonal allergic rhinitis.

The antihistamine effect begins within an hour of taking the tablet

and peaks after 6 hours. The effectiveness of fexofenadine relative

to other antihistamines is unknown.

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It seems that getting information on individual antihistamines is

very hard to do. I suspect it has not been studied at all for many

of the new antihistamines. The older ones are known to lower thryoid

levels in the blood and to produce toxic metabolites. This seems

like an important thing to know since lowering thyroid hormone

levels in the blood can lower adrenal fucntion and ultimately worsen

allergies. Allergies are the result of improper adrenal response or

lowered adrenal function. Cortisol and other cortisones from

adrenals moderate allegic and inflammatory reactions and regulate

immune response to allergins.

According to some info I could find on Allegra, it stays intact and

is excreted as is in the urine. This should make it some safer

because it is not ending up as a toxic metabolite. However, I could

not find any information on whether it interfered with thyroid

function by oocupying receptor sites or damaging the hormones. Tish

http://www.australianprescriber.com/index.php?

content=/magazines/vol20no2/new_drugs.htm

Allegra (Fexofenadine hydrochloride)

Telfast (Hoechst n Roussel)

60 mg capsules

Indication: seasonal allergic rhinitis

There have been concerns about potentially fatal interactions

between terfenadine and drugs such as erythromycin. While there has

been debate about the mechanism of the interaction, this new product

aims to overcome the concerns.

Fexofenadine is a metabolite of terfenadine which is being marketed

as a non-sedating antihistamine without the risks of the parent

compound. One capsule can be taken up to twice a day for the relief

of symptoms.

The drug has a bioavailability of 33%, but the effect of food

appears not to be clinically significant. Most of the drug is

excreted unchanged in the urine with a terminal elimination half-

life of 11-16 hours. The pharmacokinetics are significantly affected

by interactions with erythromycin and ketoconazole; however, these

changes are not believed to increase the incidence of adverse

effects.

The adverse effects of fexofenadine include headache, nausea,

drowsiness and fatigue. Although fexofenadine seems to be well

tolerated, health professionals should be aware that its approval

was based on studies of two weeks' duration.

Fexofenadine will reduce the symptoms of seasonal allergic rhinitis.

The antihistamine effect begins within an hour of taking the tablet

and peaks after 6 hours. The effectiveness of fexofenadine relative

to other antihistamines is unknown.

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It seems that getting information on individual antihistamines is

very hard to do. I suspect it has not been studied at all for many

of the new antihistamines. The older ones are known to lower thryoid

levels in the blood and to produce toxic metabolites. This seems

like an important thing to know since lowering thyroid hormone

levels in the blood can lower adrenal fucntion and ultimately worsen

allergies. Allergies are the result of improper adrenal response or

lowered adrenal function. Cortisol and other cortisones from

adrenals moderate allegic and inflammatory reactions and regulate

immune response to allergins.

According to some info I could find on Allegra, it stays intact and

is excreted as is in the urine. This should make it some safer

because it is not ending up as a toxic metabolite. However, I could

not find any information on whether it interfered with thyroid

function by oocupying receptor sites or damaging the hormones. Tish

http://www.australianprescriber.com/index.php?

content=/magazines/vol20no2/new_drugs.htm

Allegra (Fexofenadine hydrochloride)

Telfast (Hoechst n Roussel)

60 mg capsules

Indication: seasonal allergic rhinitis

There have been concerns about potentially fatal interactions

between terfenadine and drugs such as erythromycin. While there has

been debate about the mechanism of the interaction, this new product

aims to overcome the concerns.

Fexofenadine is a metabolite of terfenadine which is being marketed

as a non-sedating antihistamine without the risks of the parent

compound. One capsule can be taken up to twice a day for the relief

of symptoms.

The drug has a bioavailability of 33%, but the effect of food

appears not to be clinically significant. Most of the drug is

excreted unchanged in the urine with a terminal elimination half-

life of 11-16 hours. The pharmacokinetics are significantly affected

by interactions with erythromycin and ketoconazole; however, these

changes are not believed to increase the incidence of adverse

effects.

The adverse effects of fexofenadine include headache, nausea,

drowsiness and fatigue. Although fexofenadine seems to be well

tolerated, health professionals should be aware that its approval

was based on studies of two weeks' duration.

Fexofenadine will reduce the symptoms of seasonal allergic rhinitis.

The antihistamine effect begins within an hour of taking the tablet

and peaks after 6 hours. The effectiveness of fexofenadine relative

to other antihistamines is unknown.

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Thank you so much! I've been considering switching him to Claritin because I can get it OTC, and it lasts 24 hours. Poor kid is always snotty, thanks to his dad's genes. I just worry about my kids having thyroid problems eventually, since I took the RAI years before having them, and of course thyroid troubles run in my family.

So anyway, do you think Claritin is any better or worse than Allegra? I can't tell you how much I appreciate that you are sharing this knowledge with me.

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It seems that getting information on individual antihistamines is very hard to do. I suspect it has not been studied at all for many of the new antihistamines. The older ones are known to lower thryoid levels in the blood and to produce toxic metabolites. This seems like an important thing to know since lowering thyroid hormone levels in the blood can lower adrenal fucntion and ultimately worsen allergies. Allergies are the result of improper adrenal response or lowered adrenal function. Cortisol and other cortisones from adrenals moderate allegic and inflammatory reactions and regulate immune response to allergins.According to some info I could find on Allegra, it stays intact and is excreted as is in the urine. This should make it some safer because it is not ending up as a toxic metabolite. However, I could not find any information on whether it interfered with thyroid function by oocupying receptor sites or damaging the hormones. Tishhttp://www.australianprescriber.com/index.php?content=/magazines/vol20no2/new_drugs.htmAllegra (Fexofenadine hydrochloride) Telfast (Hoechst n Roussel)60 mg capsules Indication: seasonal allergic rhinitisThere have been concerns about potentially fatal interactions between terfenadine and drugs such as erythromycin. While there has been debate about the mechanism of the interaction, this new product aims to overcome the concerns. Fexofenadine is a metabolite of terfenadine which is being marketed as a non-sedating antihistamine without the risks of the parent compound. One capsule can be taken up to twice a day for the relief of symptoms. The drug has a bioavailability of 33%, but the effect of food appears not to be clinically significant. Most of the drug is excreted unchanged in the urine with a terminal elimination half-life of 11-16 hours. The pharmacokinetics are significantly affected by interactions with erythromycin and ketoconazole; however, these changes are not believed to increase the incidence of adverse effects. The adverse effects of fexofenadine include headache, nausea, drowsiness and fatigue. Although fexofenadine seems to be well tolerated, health professionals should be aware that its approval was based on studies of two weeks' duration. Fexofenadine will reduce the symptoms of seasonal allergic rhinitis. The antihistamine effect begins within an hour of taking the tablet and peaks after 6 hours. The effectiveness of fexofenadine relative to other antihistamines is unknown.

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Thank you so much! I've been considering switching him to Claritin because I can get it OTC, and it lasts 24 hours. Poor kid is always snotty, thanks to his dad's genes. I just worry about my kids having thyroid problems eventually, since I took the RAI years before having them, and of course thyroid troubles run in my family.

So anyway, do you think Claritin is any better or worse than Allegra? I can't tell you how much I appreciate that you are sharing this knowledge with me.

Re: Insomnia

It seems that getting information on individual antihistamines is very hard to do. I suspect it has not been studied at all for many of the new antihistamines. The older ones are known to lower thryoid levels in the blood and to produce toxic metabolites. This seems like an important thing to know since lowering thyroid hormone levels in the blood can lower adrenal fucntion and ultimately worsen allergies. Allergies are the result of improper adrenal response or lowered adrenal function. Cortisol and other cortisones from adrenals moderate allegic and inflammatory reactions and regulate immune response to allergins.According to some info I could find on Allegra, it stays intact and is excreted as is in the urine. This should make it some safer because it is not ending up as a toxic metabolite. However, I could not find any information on whether it interfered with thyroid function by oocupying receptor sites or damaging the hormones. Tishhttp://www.australianprescriber.com/index.php?content=/magazines/vol20no2/new_drugs.htmAllegra (Fexofenadine hydrochloride) Telfast (Hoechst n Roussel)60 mg capsules Indication: seasonal allergic rhinitisThere have been concerns about potentially fatal interactions between terfenadine and drugs such as erythromycin. While there has been debate about the mechanism of the interaction, this new product aims to overcome the concerns. Fexofenadine is a metabolite of terfenadine which is being marketed as a non-sedating antihistamine without the risks of the parent compound. One capsule can be taken up to twice a day for the relief of symptoms. The drug has a bioavailability of 33%, but the effect of food appears not to be clinically significant. Most of the drug is excreted unchanged in the urine with a terminal elimination half-life of 11-16 hours. The pharmacokinetics are significantly affected by interactions with erythromycin and ketoconazole; however, these changes are not believed to increase the incidence of adverse effects. The adverse effects of fexofenadine include headache, nausea, drowsiness and fatigue. Although fexofenadine seems to be well tolerated, health professionals should be aware that its approval was based on studies of two weeks' duration. Fexofenadine will reduce the symptoms of seasonal allergic rhinitis. The antihistamine effect begins within an hour of taking the tablet and peaks after 6 hours. The effectiveness of fexofenadine relative to other antihistamines is unknown.

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I've been sort of wanting to try the natural decongestant made by

Tom's of Maine. (They also make great toothpaste and shaving

cream products.) Has anyone else tried this?

Also, what is Nasal Crom (Cram?)?

Have y'all tried Nasal Crom?

You have to use it daily

for at least a couple of weeks for it to take full

effect, but it isn't suppose to be harmful or interact

with any medication.

I usually start using it a couple of weeks before I

hit my allergy season.

Debbie

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I've been sort of wanting to try the natural decongestant made by

Tom's of Maine. (They also make great toothpaste and shaving

cream products.) Has anyone else tried this?

Also, what is Nasal Crom (Cram?)?

Have y'all tried Nasal Crom?

You have to use it daily

for at least a couple of weeks for it to take full

effect, but it isn't suppose to be harmful or interact

with any medication.

I usually start using it a couple of weeks before I

hit my allergy season.

Debbie

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But the trouble here is that it is a time release medication. I'm wondering how much of the whole thing you're getting at one time. Funny thing is, come to think of it, I feel less drug out taking the 12 hr doses, twice a day, than I do taking the 24 hr stuff. I'm thinking that that particular thing is a matter of the way each person is metabolizing it, with what, the liver, or is it the kidney? If it's concentrating in the system, on a delayed thing, instead of being sent out of the body, then the lesser amt in the system at once would make more sense. However, I've been buying the 24 hr dose because that's usually what I find available. Might be my immagination, but ever since I've been taking the Armour, it seems that this 24 hr dose makes me feel more hazy and rum dum. I'm thinking that I've been metabolizing it differently than I used to. I'm going after more info on this because I have to take these things so often, for months at a time, with a drug holiday of only a few wks or as long as a couple of months at a time.

Re: Insomnia

All allergy medications make me feel really strung out. Usually, if I have to take one, I take Claritin, but I very carefully slice it into fourths in the package, and I only dissolve one-fourth on my tongue. That's just straight Claritin, mind you. Claritin D would send me right over the edge into heart palpitation land.

Courtenay.

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But the trouble here is that it is a time release medication. I'm wondering how much of the whole thing you're getting at one time. Funny thing is, come to think of it, I feel less drug out taking the 12 hr doses, twice a day, than I do taking the 24 hr stuff. I'm thinking that that particular thing is a matter of the way each person is metabolizing it, with what, the liver, or is it the kidney? If it's concentrating in the system, on a delayed thing, instead of being sent out of the body, then the lesser amt in the system at once would make more sense. However, I've been buying the 24 hr dose because that's usually what I find available. Might be my immagination, but ever since I've been taking the Armour, it seems that this 24 hr dose makes me feel more hazy and rum dum. I'm thinking that I've been metabolizing it differently than I used to. I'm going after more info on this because I have to take these things so often, for months at a time, with a drug holiday of only a few wks or as long as a couple of months at a time.

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All allergy medications make me feel really strung out. Usually, if I have to take one, I take Claritin, but I very carefully slice it into fourths in the package, and I only dissolve one-fourth on my tongue. That's just straight Claritin, mind you. Claritin D would send me right over the edge into heart palpitation land.

Courtenay.

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I think that is a good product, but I just haven't bought it in awhile. I

was thinking that the extra ingredients for the transport on it may be

sensitizers for some people. I really can't even remember what kind of

reaction I had to it though. It is chromilin sodium (sp?), which can also

be used by an inhaler for asthma for prevention, but not for the treatment

of an actual attack. If the only allergy symptoms you're having are nasal

symptoms, seems like that would be a good alternative.

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>

> Have y'all tried Nasal Crom? You have to use it daily

> for at least a couple of weeks for it to take full

> effect, but it isn't suppose to be harmful or interact

> with any medication.

>

> I usually start using it a couple of weeks before I

> hit my allergy season.

>

> Debbie

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I think that is a good product, but I just haven't bought it in awhile. I

was thinking that the extra ingredients for the transport on it may be

sensitizers for some people. I really can't even remember what kind of

reaction I had to it though. It is chromilin sodium (sp?), which can also

be used by an inhaler for asthma for prevention, but not for the treatment

of an actual attack. If the only allergy symptoms you're having are nasal

symptoms, seems like that would be a good alternative.

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>

> Have y'all tried Nasal Crom? You have to use it daily

> for at least a couple of weeks for it to take full

> effect, but it isn't suppose to be harmful or interact

> with any medication.

>

> I usually start using it a couple of weeks before I

> hit my allergy season.

>

> Debbie

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I finally found the Tom's toothpaste about a wk ago and have been using that. Wonder if any of the fluoride will be leaving my system. I live within 20 miles of Dow Chemical and others, so we're probably getting a steady diet of it in the air.

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I've been sort of wanting to try the natural decongestant made by Tom's of Maine. (They also make great toothpaste and shaving cream products.) Has anyone else tried this?

Also, what is Nasal Crom (Cram?)?

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I finally found the Tom's toothpaste about a wk ago and have been using that. Wonder if any of the fluoride will be leaving my system. I live within 20 miles of Dow Chemical and others, so we're probably getting a steady diet of it in the air.

Re: Insomnia

I've been sort of wanting to try the natural decongestant made by Tom's of Maine. (They also make great toothpaste and shaving cream products.) Has anyone else tried this?

Also, what is Nasal Crom (Cram?)?

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I will find out. I'm going to Whole Foods in less than an

hour. I've been using their flouride free, calcium free

toothpaste for awhile, and have used their other toothpastes and

shaving creams (as does my husband) for years. I loooove their

products. Of course, it's one thing to use a shaving cream, and

yet another to use a nasal decongestant.

Courtenay.

What are the ingredients?

Courtenay

wrote:

I've been sort of wanting to try the

natural decongestant made by Tom's of Maine. (They also make

great toothpaste and shaving cream products.) Has anyone else

tried this?

Also, what is Nasal Crom

(Cram?)?

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I will find out. I'm going to Whole Foods in less than an

hour. I've been using their flouride free, calcium free

toothpaste for awhile, and have used their other toothpastes and

shaving creams (as does my husband) for years. I loooove their

products. Of course, it's one thing to use a shaving cream, and

yet another to use a nasal decongestant.

Courtenay.

What are the ingredients?

Courtenay

wrote:

I've been sort of wanting to try the

natural decongestant made by Tom's of Maine. (They also make

great toothpaste and shaving cream products.) Has anyone else

tried this?

Also, what is Nasal Crom

(Cram?)?

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Hi Katy--

I switched to a Tom's of Maine Flouride free/Calcium free

toothpaste three months ago. There are some great products out

there. I will take a look at Nature's Gate. Thanks for the

warning.

Courtenay.

I have used some of Tom's

toothpastes. However, read the ingredients

labels carefully. They are not necessarily " all

natural " . Some of

them contain fluoride. Just go to the

healthfood store and read labels. Research any you are in

doubt

about. Here is the link for Tom's, and you might find the

other

information you are looking for on there. There are lots of

good

health food type toothpastes on the market. I am currently

using

Nature's Gate brand. I like it alot.

www.tomsofmaine.com

Katy

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Hi Katy--

I switched to a Tom's of Maine Flouride free/Calcium free

toothpaste three months ago. There are some great products out

there. I will take a look at Nature's Gate. Thanks for the

warning.

Courtenay.

I have used some of Tom's

toothpastes. However, read the ingredients

labels carefully. They are not necessarily " all

natural " . Some of

them contain fluoride. Just go to the

healthfood store and read labels. Research any you are in

doubt

about. Here is the link for Tom's, and you might find the

other

information you are looking for on there. There are lots of

good

health food type toothpastes on the market. I am currently

using

Nature's Gate brand. I like it alot.

www.tomsofmaine.com

Katy

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Oh, that's bad. I thought my allergies are insufferable,

yours are definitely worse. I'm not crazy about these products

because they do seem to create a vicious cycle in your system-- the

more you take, the more you need, it appears.

The only thing I can tell you is that to avoid frequent Claritin

usage, I sleep with a humidifier on almost every night and I use Ocean

spray right before I go to bed. I try to only take that

time-release sliver in a worse case scenario.

As a small person, I am realizing that it is not realistic that I

should take a full over-the-counter dose anyway. And I hate the

dreamy, jittery feeling I get when I take a whole pill. In

addition, I've found that a sliver is often more than enough to clear

up my sinuses enough to give them a rest.

I don't know if that would work for you, considering the depth of

your allergies, but it has been okay for me.

I am going to post the Tom's of Maine info. when I get back.

If it doesn't look dangerous, I may try that as well.

But the

trouble here is that it is a time release medication. I'm

wondering how much of the whole thing you're getting at one time.

Funny thing is, come to think of it, I feel less drug out taking the

12 hr doses, twice a day, than I do taking the 24 hr stuff. I'm

thinking that that particular thing is a matter of the way each person

is metabolizing it, with what, the liver, or is it the kidney?

If it's concentrating in the system, on a delayed thing, instead of

being sent out of the body, then the lesser amt in the system at once

would make more sense. However, I've been buying the 24 hr dose

because that's usually what I find available. Might be my

immagination, but ever since I've been taking the Armour, it seems

that this 24 hr dose makes me feel more hazy and rum dum. I'm

thinking that I've been metabolizing it differently than I used to.

I'm going after more info on this because I have to take these things

so often, for months at a time, with a drug holiday of only a few wks

or as long as a couple of months at a time.

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Oh, that's bad. I thought my allergies are insufferable,

yours are definitely worse. I'm not crazy about these products

because they do seem to create a vicious cycle in your system-- the

more you take, the more you need, it appears.

The only thing I can tell you is that to avoid frequent Claritin

usage, I sleep with a humidifier on almost every night and I use Ocean

spray right before I go to bed. I try to only take that

time-release sliver in a worse case scenario.

As a small person, I am realizing that it is not realistic that I

should take a full over-the-counter dose anyway. And I hate the

dreamy, jittery feeling I get when I take a whole pill. In

addition, I've found that a sliver is often more than enough to clear

up my sinuses enough to give them a rest.

I don't know if that would work for you, considering the depth of

your allergies, but it has been okay for me.

I am going to post the Tom's of Maine info. when I get back.

If it doesn't look dangerous, I may try that as well.

But the

trouble here is that it is a time release medication. I'm

wondering how much of the whole thing you're getting at one time.

Funny thing is, come to think of it, I feel less drug out taking the

12 hr doses, twice a day, than I do taking the 24 hr stuff. I'm

thinking that that particular thing is a matter of the way each person

is metabolizing it, with what, the liver, or is it the kidney?

If it's concentrating in the system, on a delayed thing, instead of

being sent out of the body, then the lesser amt in the system at once

would make more sense. However, I've been buying the 24 hr dose

because that's usually what I find available. Might be my

immagination, but ever since I've been taking the Armour, it seems

that this 24 hr dose makes me feel more hazy and rum dum. I'm

thinking that I've been metabolizing it differently than I used to.

I'm going after more info on this because I have to take these things

so often, for months at a time, with a drug holiday of only a few wks

or as long as a couple of months at a time.

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