Re: deaar pete: alpha coherence, high alpha, Pz, Oz ZEN

[Guest guest]

Erez,Let's start with a little Zen fable:A guy went to a master and the master gave him a very basic exercise to practice. The guy went away happy. The next day he went back and told the master what he had done, and the master nodded and gave him the same exercise. The guy was a little puzzled, but he left.

The next day he returned and told the master he had practiced a little more, and the master nodded and gave him the same exercise again. This time the guy started to feel irritated, but he went away.The following day, the same thing happened, and the guy finally said, " Hey, I know you're a master, but I think you need to work on your memory! This is the fourth time you've given me the same exercise to do! "

The master smiled and said, " I know. And I'll keep giving it to you until you master it. " SO..if your peak alpha is low, and if training it higher causes you to experience clarity, focus and calm, then the best way to enter the " Zen " state is...train up your peak alpha. Finding something that works, zen would say, continue to do it until you don't need to do it more. When you are calm and clear and focused all the time, without training peak alpha, that is a good time to stop. Finding something that works for a few moments--then immediately seeking for the next thing to jump to--that is NOT a zen approach.

It is much easier to raise alpha peak frequency with eyes open than with eyes closed. Try training with eyes closed as well.If you have an Infiniti, you can train up to 6 channels at the same time, though you'll need the EEG cables and electrodes for each channel.

Pete

i start to train myself to increase halpha 10.5-13.5 @ p4

for the last few days i change the location to pz - eye open- and

feel diffrent senssion' more focus and clarity and comeness

1.i wonder what is the way to train in order to enter ZEN state of

mind?

2. should ne train alpha at pz with eye open or close?

3.while training coherence phase etc. should i train with e/o or e/c

4. i wonder if it possible to train coherence / open focus with lezz

fehemi original sites with procominfiniti?

5. can i buy a cable/ connector/ device to train coherence with the

infiniri wuth more then 2 sites?

6. is i possible to train coherence with the ROSHI?

i realy enjoy yours vast knowledge in the field and learn every day

from yours wisdom.-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com

305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

[Guest guest]

Erez,Let's start with a little Zen fable:A guy went to a master and the master gave him a very basic exercise to practice. The guy went away happy. The next day he went back and told the master what he had done, and the master nodded and gave him the same exercise. The guy was a little puzzled, but he left.

The next day he returned and told the master he had practiced a little more, and the master nodded and gave him the same exercise again. This time the guy started to feel irritated, but he went away.The following day, the same thing happened, and the guy finally said, " Hey, I know you're a master, but I think you need to work on your memory! This is the fourth time you've given me the same exercise to do! "

The master smiled and said, " I know. And I'll keep giving it to you until you master it. " SO..if your peak alpha is low, and if training it higher causes you to experience clarity, focus and calm, then the best way to enter the " Zen " state is...train up your peak alpha. Finding something that works, zen would say, continue to do it until you don't need to do it more. When you are calm and clear and focused all the time, without training peak alpha, that is a good time to stop. Finding something that works for a few moments--then immediately seeking for the next thing to jump to--that is NOT a zen approach.

It is much easier to raise alpha peak frequency with eyes open than with eyes closed. Try training with eyes closed as well.If you have an Infiniti, you can train up to 6 channels at the same time, though you'll need the EEG cables and electrodes for each channel.

Pete

i start to train myself to increase halpha 10.5-13.5 @ p4

for the last few days i change the location to pz - eye open- and

feel diffrent senssion' more focus and clarity and comeness

1.i wonder what is the way to train in order to enter ZEN state of

mind?

2. should ne train alpha at pz with eye open or close?

3.while training coherence phase etc. should i train with e/o or e/c

4. i wonder if it possible to train coherence / open focus with lezz

fehemi original sites with procominfiniti?

5. can i buy a cable/ connector/ device to train coherence with the

infiniri wuth more then 2 sites?

6. is i possible to train coherence with the ROSHI?

i realy enjoy yours vast knowledge in the field and learn every day

from yours wisdom.-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com

305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

[Guest guest]

Hi Erez,

As far as hardware is concerned, I found that these work very well.

Either 4 or 6 channels.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd/index_fichiers/Page1335.htm

I use them with the Biofeedback Foundation of Europe's (BFE) Infiniti

Suite for TLC Assessment.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd/index_fichiers/Page1179.htm

You can call IMA in Florida (see link below for number) and ask for

Dupont's 4 or 6 channel electrode set. You can also buy a 6 channel

set from me.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd/index_fichiers/Page640.htm

I don't know if anyone at the BFE created a 4 or 6 channel training

suite. You may check at www.bfe.org.

I hope this helps you.

Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd

Clinical, health, and rehabilitation psychology

Therapy, assessment, and consultation

Private practice fdupont-phd@...

Universite/y d'/of Ottawa; Service de sante / Health Services

100-100 Marie-Curie, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Canada

Tel. : poste/ext. 500; Fax :

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> i start to train myself to increase halpha 10.5-13.5 @ p4

> for the last few days i change the location to pz - eye open- and

> feel diffrent senssion' more focus and clarity and comeness

>

> 1.i wonder what is the way to train in order to enter ZEN state of

> mind?

>

> 2. should ne train alpha at pz with eye open or close?

>

> 3.while training coherence phase etc. should i train with e/o or e/c

>

> 4. i wonder if it possible to train coherence / open focus with

lezz

> fehemi original sites with procominfiniti?

>

> 5. can i buy a cable/ connector/ device to train coherence with the

> infiniri wuth more then 2 sites?

>

> 6. is i possible to train coherence with the ROSHI?

>

> i realy enjoy yours vast knowledge in the field and learn every day

> from yours wisdom.

>

> best regard

> erez levi

> ISRAEL

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