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LOL , yup took my pain meds and nausea stuff . But alas nothing helped last night , hehe I cant believe I have to do this everyday for the next 19 months . Unless I don't have a 2 log drop and then I will be put on a maintence dose to prevent further damage to my liver. I am drinking plenty of gatorade and tea . Hugs and kisses , luv ya .........liz

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Message from Momma Janet to Liz!!

You get some rest today. Okay!!!

I hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids.

Over and out,

Much love

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I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said . We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl

I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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LOL , yup took my pain meds and nausea stuff . But alas nothing helped last night , hehe I cant believe I have to do this everyday for the next 19 months . Unless I don't have a 2 log drop and then I will be put on a maintence dose to prevent further damage to my liver. I am drinking plenty of gatorade and tea . Hugs and kisses , luv ya .........liz

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Message from Momma Janet to Liz!!

You get some rest today. Okay!!!

I hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids.

Over and out,

Much love

Janetelizabethnv1 wrote:

I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said . We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl

I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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LOL , yup took my pain meds and nausea stuff . But alas nothing helped last night , hehe I cant believe I have to do this everyday for the next 19 months . Unless I don't have a 2 log drop and then I will be put on a maintence dose to prevent further damage to my liver. I am drinking plenty of gatorade and tea . Hugs and kisses , luv ya .........liz

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Message from Momma Janet to Liz!!

You get some rest today. Okay!!!

I hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids.

Over and out,

Much love

Janetelizabethnv1 wrote:

I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said . We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl

I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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As one who just finished 48 weeks again!! on Monday, girl I hear ya. Last three weeks I was way tired of the whole shabang. but this is day 3 after taking last shot and I am like oh baby I am the girl!! Dancing around the room. Now to stay this way. Take care Liz my friend and know that I am here for ya. Love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: LOL , yup took my pain meds and nausea stuff . But alas nothing helped last night , hehe I cant believe I have to do this everyday for the next 19 months . Unless I don't have a 2 log drop and then I will be put on a maintence dose to prevent further

damage to my liver. I am drinking plenty of gatorade and tea . Hugs and kisses , luv ya .........liz Re: Liz Message from Momma Janet to Liz!! You get some rest today. Okay!!! I

hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids. Over and out, Much love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said .

We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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As one who just finished 48 weeks again!! on Monday, girl I hear ya. Last three weeks I was way tired of the whole shabang. but this is day 3 after taking last shot and I am like oh baby I am the girl!! Dancing around the room. Now to stay this way. Take care Liz my friend and know that I am here for ya. Love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: LOL , yup took my pain meds and nausea stuff . But alas nothing helped last night , hehe I cant believe I have to do this everyday for the next 19 months . Unless I don't have a 2 log drop and then I will be put on a maintence dose to prevent further

damage to my liver. I am drinking plenty of gatorade and tea . Hugs and kisses , luv ya .........liz Re: Liz Message from Momma Janet to Liz!! You get some rest today. Okay!!! I

hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids. Over and out, Much love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said .

We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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As one who just finished 48 weeks again!! on Monday, girl I hear ya. Last three weeks I was way tired of the whole shabang. but this is day 3 after taking last shot and I am like oh baby I am the girl!! Dancing around the room. Now to stay this way. Take care Liz my friend and know that I am here for ya. Love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: LOL , yup took my pain meds and nausea stuff . But alas nothing helped last night , hehe I cant believe I have to do this everyday for the next 19 months . Unless I don't have a 2 log drop and then I will be put on a maintence dose to prevent further

damage to my liver. I am drinking plenty of gatorade and tea . Hugs and kisses , luv ya .........liz Re: Liz Message from Momma Janet to Liz!! You get some rest today. Okay!!! I

hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids. Over and out, Much love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said .

We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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I am so happy for you Janet , congrats on makin it to the finish line ....luv ya

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Message from Momma Janet to Liz!!

You get some rest today. Okay!!!

I hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids.

Over and out,

Much love

Janetelizabethnv1 wrote:

I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said . We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl

I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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I am so happy for you Janet , congrats on makin it to the finish line ....luv ya

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Message from Momma Janet to Liz!!

You get some rest today. Okay!!!

I hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids.

Over and out,

Much love

Janetelizabethnv1 wrote:

I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said . We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl

I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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I am so happy for you Janet , congrats on makin it to the finish line ....luv ya

Re: Liz

Message from Momma Janet to Liz!!

You get some rest today. Okay!!!

I hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids.

Over and out,

Much love

Janetelizabethnv1 wrote:

I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said . We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl

I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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WAYY to GO Janet,, Im so proud of you and that you DID IT,, whooo hoooooo! HEY, my daughter is here, she arrived last nite,, keep her in your prayers, I dont know how long she will be willing to stay but I hope I can say and do the right things to help her see that this relationship probably is NOT the right one! once again Janet, WAY TO GO!!! love you jackiejanet wrote: As one who just finished 48 weeks again!! on Monday, girl I hear ya. Last three weeks I was way tired of the whole shabang. but this is day 3 after taking last shot and I am like oh baby I am the girl!! Dancing around the room. Now to stay this way. Take care Liz my friend and know that I am here for ya. Love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: LOL , yup took my pain meds and nausea stuff . But alas nothing helped last night , hehe I cant believe I have to do this everyday for the next 19 months . Unless I don't have a 2 log drop and then I will be put on a maintence dose to prevent further damage to my liver. I am drinking plenty of gatorade and tea . Hugs and kisses , luv ya .........liz Re: Liz Message from Momma Janet to Liz!! You get some rest today. Okay!!! I hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids. Over and out, Much love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said . We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon Jackie

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WAYY to GO Janet,, Im so proud of you and that you DID IT,, whooo hoooooo! HEY, my daughter is here, she arrived last nite,, keep her in your prayers, I dont know how long she will be willing to stay but I hope I can say and do the right things to help her see that this relationship probably is NOT the right one! once again Janet, WAY TO GO!!! love you jackiejanet wrote: As one who just finished 48 weeks again!! on Monday, girl I hear ya. Last three weeks I was way tired of the whole shabang. but this is day 3 after taking last shot and I am like oh baby I am the girl!! Dancing around the room. Now to stay this way. Take care Liz my friend and know that I am here for ya. Love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: LOL , yup took my pain meds and nausea stuff . But alas nothing helped last night , hehe I cant believe I have to do this everyday for the next 19 months . Unless I don't have a 2 log drop and then I will be put on a maintence dose to prevent further damage to my liver. I am drinking plenty of gatorade and tea . Hugs and kisses , luv ya .........liz Re: Liz Message from Momma Janet to Liz!! You get some rest today. Okay!!! I hope you took a couple of pain relievers before you took your shot. And rest, rest,rest today with plenty of fluids. Over and out, Much love Janetelizabethnv1 wrote: I just returned from da doctors office , I am getting ready to draw up the solution right now , lol . I dont know why the doc made me go in to see him , all we did was talk about research stuff . He absolutely agrees with me about the earlier the better for treatment , and that occasionaly there is a rare instance where the meds can inflame the liver but it is rare he said . We also discussed the fact that the younger the patient the easier treatment is , and stuff like that . In the end it was just like a visit from a friend , LOL . I got a little mad at him for that since it takes so long to get to his office from my house , oh well lol . luv ya girl I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon Jackie

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  • 2 years later...

Liz,

Thanks for info. Actually I'm not a clinical psychologist, just an

m.s. but I'm curious about your views.I'm in the cognitive-behavior

camp, but it seems limited in it's application. Especially for a

particular case in the family. Can you recommend any books or reading

material?

Thanks

>

> Hi J.,

>

> I'm new to this field too (and I'm a clinical psychologist too).

>

> Another thing I like about " bottom-up " training is that it forms a

> nice analog with psychoanalytic ( " depth " psychology) thinking about

> psychopathology. Or, as the saying goes, when you practice

> psychotherapy, " follow the affect. "

>

> We don't attack defenses because we're know the person needs them,

> until the deeper affective issues are worked through. Then the

> defenses tend to flex all by themselves (can you tell I'm not a

> cognitive-behaviorist?)

>

> Or, if you don't like psychoanalysis, you can get to a similar place

> through the Buddha! (Busy Brain = Ego, which is so busy thinking

> thinking thinking that it tends to miss the forest)

>

> Good luck with your neurofeedback studies.

>

> Liz

>

>

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