Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Tony, Do you easily get cold hands/ feet?. If that’s the case, try hand warming techniques. MIght improve your condition. You can use a thermometer to check finger temperature. You can also check hand temperature by placing palm of hand against the side of your face and notice if your hand is colder than your cheek. Personally I like hand and cheek to feel as if they melt together. It’s a sign of that I’m calm and collected. Hand warming is done easily with good breathing excersises. http://www.aapb.org/files/public/Temperature.pdf Good luck! Jim Fra: braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] På vegne av karyn.tony@... Sendt: 16. januar 2008 02:17 Til: braintrainer Emne: RE: NFB Novice - initial advice sought I totally agree with all the previous posts but strongly recommend Dr s suggestion as to the up grade to the A3 it will save you money in the long run. Cheers Tony -----Original Message----- From: braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] On Behalf Of Bruce Z. Berman Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 2:04 p.m. To: braintrainer Subject: Re: NFB Novice - initial advice sought Are you refering to the bipolar set up for the migraines. In other words your training the difference between the two sites, correct? Thanks, PS: I love that arousal scale you constructed. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: R. To: braintrainer Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: Re: NFB Novice - initial advice sought Hi Bob, best wishes for you! This is a fascinating world. Welcome I strongly recommend you the EEG Pendant because I've been using it since 2006 with excellent results. If you are able to upgrade to the A3, go for it! Is more versatile than the Pendant. The " most read " book is Demo's Starting with Neurofeedback. I also recommend you to do a TLC assessment for yourself before start your training so you may be sure where and what to do on your brain. Do the Subjective and the objective. Also consider the Arousal Scale to determine your ANS Rhythm or best frequency to train at T3-T4. With this specific protocol at the best rewarding frequency for your brain you may find extraordinary response for your migraines. Hope these helps. Miami,FL ----- Original Message ---- From: r.wakely <r.wakelybigpond (DOT) net.au> To: braintrainer Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:51:10 PM Subject: NFB Novice - initial advice sought Greetings, I'm excited to be a member of this forum and looking forward to learning heaps. I live in Melbourne, Australia and I'm a complete novice to NFB. In fact I haven't even bought the equiptment yet - I'll be ordering that soon. I suffer bad migrains and have become very interested in NFB to help me 'stave' them off. I'm also a violinist and teacher and would like to improve my thinking processes such concentration and staying in 'the zone' during performance if possible. I read an interesting piece of research about NFB and music performance - http://www.aapb. org/i4a/pages/ index.cfm? pageid=3609 I expect this will be a long process but that's ok. I have a steep learning curve ahead of me. As a novice, what book would you recommend for me to read? Which device would you suggest I purchase - the pendant or A3? What is the best initial pathway I should begin with on my NFB journey? Regards, Bob Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 p.m. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 p.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Comparing the A3 and the Pendant: If you think you will, now or eventually, want to be able to do BOTH the types of HEG training and EEG training, then the Pocket is cost-effective. If you are likely only to want to do one type of HEG and EEG, then two Pendants are a bit less costly. If you think you will want to do training without a computer, then the Pocket is the option. Just be aware that the feedback is a lot more limited with the little screen of the Pocket than if you are training with BioExplorer and either of the devices. Getting two Pendants vs. getting one Pocket to do your training: Any Minder Labs device communicates with the computer through the same dongle/receiving unit. Hence, if you buy two Pendants, you have one extra dongle that stays in your drawer, and you install the other to use with both Pendants (or Pocket). That way, if one dongle fails, which they do from time to time, you send the bad one back, pull the other out of the drawer, and keep on training while awaiting the replacement of the first. If that happens to a Pocket user, you lose the ability to do EEG and HEG. If one of the Pendants fails, you still have the ability to do one of the training modalities as well. If you are planning on carting the device around from place to place, the Pendant is almost indestructible--except perhaps for yanking the battery wire loose. The Pocket's screen is susceptible to pressure in a bag or whatever. I've had to send two pockets for repair because the screen developed a big black spot that made it impossible to see the display after a trip. If you are in any way challenged by computers or video games, be aware that the Pocket does require you to learn a menu system that remains beyond many people. After years of using it, I can generally find my way around it okay, but rarely without stumbling off into a side street by pressing the right button instead of the left or vice-versa. Both are great devices, and you can get good results with both. Pete Greetings,Thank you all for your advice. I'll order the book 'Starting with NFB'.Please suggest any other things that you feel would be important for a novice. I'll be ordering equiptment soon - most likely the A3- just need to save a few more pennies(-:RegardsBob> > > > Tony, > > > > Do you easily get cold hands/ feet?. If that's the case, try hand warming> techniques. MIght improve your condition. > > > > You can use a thermometer to check finger temperature. You can also check> hand temperature by placing palm of hand against the side of your face and> notice if your hand is colder than your cheek. Personally I like hand and> cheek to feel as if they melt together. It's a sign of that I'm calm and> collected. > > > > Hand warming is done easily with good breathing excersises. > > > > http://www.aapb.org/files/public/Temperature.pdf> > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > Jim> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > Fra: braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] På> vegne av karyn.tony@...> Sendt: 16. januar 2008 02:17> Til: braintrainer > Emne: RE: NFB Novice - initial advice sought> > > > I totally agree with all the previous posts but strongly recommend Dr s> suggestion as to the up grade to the A3 it will save you money in the long> run. > > Cheers Tony> > > > Re: NFB Novice - initial advice sought> > > > Are you refering to the bipolar set up for the migraines. In other words> your training the difference between the two sites, correct?> > > > Thanks,> > > > PS: I love that arousal scale you constructed.> > > > Bruce> > NFB Novice - initial advice sought > > Greetings,> I'm excited to be a member of this forum and looking forward to > learning heaps. I live in Melbourne, Australia and I'm a complete > novice to NFB. In fact I haven't even bought the equiptment yet - > I'll be ordering that soon. > > I suffer bad migrains and have become very interested in NFB to help > me 'stave' them off. I'm also a violinist and teacher and would like > to improve my thinking processes such concentration and staying > in 'the zone' during performance if possible. I read an interesting > piece of research about NFB and music performance - > http://www.aapb. <http://www.aapb.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3609>> org/i4a/pages/ index.cfm? pageid=3609> > I expect this will be a long process but that's ok. I have a steep > learning curve ahead of me.> > As a novice, what book would you recommend for me to read? Which > device would you suggest I purchase - the pendant or A3? What is the > best initial pathway I should begin with on my NFB journey?> > Regards, Bob> > > > > > > _____ > > > Never miss a thing. Make> <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http:/www.yahoo.com/r/hs > Yahoo your> homepage. > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008> 5:39 p.m.> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008> 5:39 p.m.> -- Van Deusen pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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