Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Mark, If you've been getting good results, you understood me perfectly; if not, you misunderstood (just kidding). A lot of my recommended trainings are indeed 2-channel 2-sites. Most of them are quadrant training: Fz/A1 combined with C3/A1 (left front quadrant) or P4 with Oz (right rear) of F8 with C4, etc. Thus we stay within an areas where the activation pattern is likely to be quite consistent and we can train the same thing in both areas without problems. Of course Coherence and Symmetry protocols are also 2-channel, but they tend to be training relationships. T3/A1/g/T4/A2 is a 2-channel interhemispheric i commonly use, but I think that's the main place I use two sites on opposite hemispheres to train amplitudes. Pete You previously stated:Even there, I usually recommend that (outside the temporal lobes) you be careful about training both sides at the same time. I thought that after assessment a lot of your recommended training was two channel for various site pairings, have I misunderstood all this time? .. -- Van Deusen pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Mark, If you've been getting good results, you understood me perfectly; if not, you misunderstood (just kidding). A lot of my recommended trainings are indeed 2-channel 2-sites. Most of them are quadrant training: Fz/A1 combined with C3/A1 (left front quadrant) or P4 with Oz (right rear) of F8 with C4, etc. Thus we stay within an areas where the activation pattern is likely to be quite consistent and we can train the same thing in both areas without problems. Of course Coherence and Symmetry protocols are also 2-channel, but they tend to be training relationships. T3/A1/g/T4/A2 is a 2-channel interhemispheric i commonly use, but I think that's the main place I use two sites on opposite hemispheres to train amplitudes. Pete You previously stated:Even there, I usually recommend that (outside the temporal lobes) you be careful about training both sides at the same time. I thought that after assessment a lot of your recommended training was two channel for various site pairings, have I misunderstood all this time? .. -- Van Deusen pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Mark, If you've been getting good results, you understood me perfectly; if not, you misunderstood (just kidding). A lot of my recommended trainings are indeed 2-channel 2-sites. Most of them are quadrant training: Fz/A1 combined with C3/A1 (left front quadrant) or P4 with Oz (right rear) of F8 with C4, etc. Thus we stay within an areas where the activation pattern is likely to be quite consistent and we can train the same thing in both areas without problems. Of course Coherence and Symmetry protocols are also 2-channel, but they tend to be training relationships. T3/A1/g/T4/A2 is a 2-channel interhemispheric i commonly use, but I think that's the main place I use two sites on opposite hemispheres to train amplitudes. Pete You previously stated:Even there, I usually recommend that (outside the temporal lobes) you be careful about training both sides at the same time. I thought that after assessment a lot of your recommended training was two channel for various site pairings, have I misunderstood all this time? .. -- Van Deusen pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Thanks,Pete. Must say however that I've done two channel training other than for relationships at F3 P4, F3 F4, C3 C4 with good results. Mark Re: Two site training Mark, If you've been getting good results, you understood me perfectly; if not, you misunderstood (just kidding). A lot of my recommended trainings are indeed 2-channel 2-sites. Most of them are quadrant training: Fz/A1 combined with C3/A1 (left front quadrant) or P4 with Oz (right rear) of F8 with C4, etc. Thus we stay within an areas where the activation pattern is likely to be quite consistent and we can train the same thing in both areas without problems. Of course Coherence and Symmetry protocols are also 2-channel, but they tend to be training relationships. T3/A1/g/T4/A2 is a 2-channel interhemispheric i commonly use, but I think that's the main place I use two sites on opposite hemispheres to train amplitudes. Pete On Jan 19, 2008 10:46 AM, Mark Baddeley <baddeleyhermes (DOT) net.au> wrote: You previously stated:Even there, I usually recommend that (outside the temporal lobes) you be careful about training both sides at the same time. I thought that after assessment a lot of your recommended training was two channel for various site pairings, have I misunderstood all this time? .. -- Van Deusenpvdtlcgmailhttp://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Thanks,Pete. Must say however that I've done two channel training other than for relationships at F3 P4, F3 F4, C3 C4 with good results. Mark Re: Two site training Mark, If you've been getting good results, you understood me perfectly; if not, you misunderstood (just kidding). A lot of my recommended trainings are indeed 2-channel 2-sites. Most of them are quadrant training: Fz/A1 combined with C3/A1 (left front quadrant) or P4 with Oz (right rear) of F8 with C4, etc. Thus we stay within an areas where the activation pattern is likely to be quite consistent and we can train the same thing in both areas without problems. Of course Coherence and Symmetry protocols are also 2-channel, but they tend to be training relationships. T3/A1/g/T4/A2 is a 2-channel interhemispheric i commonly use, but I think that's the main place I use two sites on opposite hemispheres to train amplitudes. Pete On Jan 19, 2008 10:46 AM, Mark Baddeley <baddeleyhermes (DOT) net.au> wrote: You previously stated:Even there, I usually recommend that (outside the temporal lobes) you be careful about training both sides at the same time. I thought that after assessment a lot of your recommended training was two channel for various site pairings, have I misunderstood all this time? .. -- Van Deusenpvdtlcgmailhttp://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Thanks,Pete. Must say however that I've done two channel training other than for relationships at F3 P4, F3 F4, C3 C4 with good results. Mark Re: Two site training Mark, If you've been getting good results, you understood me perfectly; if not, you misunderstood (just kidding). A lot of my recommended trainings are indeed 2-channel 2-sites. Most of them are quadrant training: Fz/A1 combined with C3/A1 (left front quadrant) or P4 with Oz (right rear) of F8 with C4, etc. Thus we stay within an areas where the activation pattern is likely to be quite consistent and we can train the same thing in both areas without problems. Of course Coherence and Symmetry protocols are also 2-channel, but they tend to be training relationships. T3/A1/g/T4/A2 is a 2-channel interhemispheric i commonly use, but I think that's the main place I use two sites on opposite hemispheres to train amplitudes. Pete On Jan 19, 2008 10:46 AM, Mark Baddeley <baddeleyhermes (DOT) net.au> wrote: You previously stated:Even there, I usually recommend that (outside the temporal lobes) you be careful about training both sides at the same time. I thought that after assessment a lot of your recommended training was two channel for various site pairings, have I misunderstood all this time? .. -- Van Deusenpvdtlcgmailhttp://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Dear Pete, Sorry for bringing up an old topic but I'm lagging behind in my digest reading. What does this commentary on two site training mean about the Van Deusen " slow frontal alpha kill " protocol which is a 2 channel, referential montage set at F3, A1 and P4, A2, which rewards 13-21 in front, and (I think) 10-14 in the back simultaneously? This protocol seems to be breaking all of the rules: interhemispheric and front/back or distant lobes. You wrote about being " careful " if you wander from the T3 T4, same-lobe, interhemispheric training. Careful of what? thanks, > > > You previously stated:Even there, I usually recommend that (outside the temporal lobes) you be careful about training both sides at the same time. > > I thought that after assessment a lot of your recommended training was two channel for various site pairings, have I misunderstood all this time? > > . > > > -- > Van Deusen > pvdtlc@... > http://www.brain-trainer.com > 305/433-3160 > The Learning Curve, Inc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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