Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Margaret, Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the important one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to T3 by the body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient country (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to over farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take added salt which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine. I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help me or alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old lab reports through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3 efficiently. I was hardly using any salt at the time due to government scares and I didn't know a titch about selenium. Do you know what your free T3 is? If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural Thyroid Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-)) mcollins2001uk schrieb: > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is tested at > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of these tests, > but they do have some value, nonetheless. > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour without > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a massive stroke > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his GP had > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with an annual > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT. > Margaret > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and I have > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to convert > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner has > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a fitness to > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - there was no > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his prescribing but 2 > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe. Interestingly, > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 27/12/2008 20:49 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Margaret, If you are feeling unsure about armour, you could always try a combo of selenium and kelp which has iodine naturally. I certainly felt better taking kelp but never understood why. Maybe it helped my poor thyroid. It certainly gave me more energy. mcollins2001uk schrieb: > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is tested at > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of these tests, > but they do have some value, nonetheless. > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour without > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a massive stroke > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his GP had > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with an annual > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT. > Margaret > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and I have > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to convert > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner has > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a fitness to > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - there was no > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his prescribing but 2 > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe. Interestingly, > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 27/12/2008 20:49 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Margaret, If you are feeling unsure about armour, you could always try a combo of selenium and kelp which has iodine naturally. I certainly felt better taking kelp but never understood why. Maybe it helped my poor thyroid. It certainly gave me more energy. mcollins2001uk schrieb: > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is tested at > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of these tests, > but they do have some value, nonetheless. > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour without > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a massive stroke > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his GP had > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with an annual > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT. > Margaret > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and I have > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to convert > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner has > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a fitness to > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - there was no > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his prescribing but 2 > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe. Interestingly, > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 27/12/2008 20:49 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Margaret, If you are feeling unsure about armour, you could always try a combo of selenium and kelp which has iodine naturally. I certainly felt better taking kelp but never understood why. Maybe it helped my poor thyroid. It certainly gave me more energy. mcollins2001uk schrieb: > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is tested at > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of these tests, > but they do have some value, nonetheless. > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour without > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a massive stroke > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his GP had > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with an annual > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT. > Margaret > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and I have > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to convert > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner has > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a fitness to > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - there was no > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his prescribing but 2 > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe. Interestingly, > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 27/12/2008 20:49 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 , I took T3 as well for a year, but it didn't help at all, sadly. Margaret > > Margaret, > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the important > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to T3 by the > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient country > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to over > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take added salt > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine. > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help me or > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old lab reports > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3 efficiently. I > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government scares and I > didn't know a titch about selenium. > > Do you know what your free T3 is? > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural Thyroid > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-)) > > > > mcollins2001uk schrieb: > > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is tested at > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of these tests, > > but they do have some value, nonetheless. > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour without > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a massive stroke > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his GP had > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with an annual > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT. > > Margaret > > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and I have > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to convert > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner has > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a fitness to > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - there was no > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his prescribing but 2 > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe. Interestingly, > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 27/12/2008 20:49 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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