Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Jon That was me. I clicked too soon. Impulsive ….. Angelo From: braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] On Behalf Of Van Deusen Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 8:46 PM To: braintrainer Subject: Fwd: EEG NeuroAmp Forwarding a message that might be of interest to the group. Keep an eye out for this and other " packaging " plans, which use readily available software and hardware that can be matched by other less costly alternatives, limit the options you would have if you bought the software or hardware for yourself and then charge a lot more for it. " I've been running the EEG Spectrum Neurocybernetics software with the old amp on a couple of 486s in DOS! They have served me well these past twelve years and now I want to upgrade all the way around. I purchased the Cygnet software and NeuroAmp in January for about $2K. It was in " Beta " and had some bugs that made it difficult to run daily in my clinic. I returned the whole package and told them I'd wait until the final version. When they came out with the final version, they jacked the price to $9K. " FYI, the NeuroAmp has specs about equivalent to the Focus ($570) and Cygnet is a shell placed over BioEra software ($250). Those are LIST prices--not what the manufacturer is paying, so you can calculate for yourself the profit involved in selling--or forcing someone to buy--these packages. Pete -- Van Deusen pvdtlc@... http://www.brain-trainer.com 305/433-3160 The Learning Curve, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Jon That was me. I clicked too soon. Impulsive ….. Angelo From: braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] On Behalf Of Van Deusen Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 8:46 PM To: braintrainer Subject: Fwd: EEG NeuroAmp Forwarding a message that might be of interest to the group. Keep an eye out for this and other " packaging " plans, which use readily available software and hardware that can be matched by other less costly alternatives, limit the options you would have if you bought the software or hardware for yourself and then charge a lot more for it. " I've been running the EEG Spectrum Neurocybernetics software with the old amp on a couple of 486s in DOS! They have served me well these past twelve years and now I want to upgrade all the way around. I purchased the Cygnet software and NeuroAmp in January for about $2K. It was in " Beta " and had some bugs that made it difficult to run daily in my clinic. I returned the whole package and told them I'd wait until the final version. When they came out with the final version, they jacked the price to $9K. " FYI, the NeuroAmp has specs about equivalent to the Focus ($570) and Cygnet is a shell placed over BioEra software ($250). Those are LIST prices--not what the manufacturer is paying, so you can calculate for yourself the profit involved in selling--or forcing someone to buy--these packages. Pete -- Van Deusen pvdtlc@... http://www.brain-trainer.com 305/433-3160 The Learning Curve, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hi Rene, It is great to hear about your experience with your QDS Access! I am using various QDS-Devices as well and there is no match for them imho. Just one sidenote: the QDS Access is still available and is the big brother of QDS Focus. It is especially made for clinicians and uses another, more expensive manufacturing method and even more sophisticated parts than the QDS Focus does. It is being tested a full 7 days before leaving the producer, as are QDS Excalibur and QDS Quantum, the excellent 4- and 8-channel amplifiers. QDS Access sells for US$ 1150.-. See at the manufacturer's webpage: http://www.qds.com.ar or at the European QDS Institute: http://www.qds-institute.com Best Stephan Odermatt, Switzerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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