Re: Heartbeat Interference with EEG Signal

[Guest guest]

,

I had this problem once, and solved it by putting the A1 (ear) electrode

on the top of the ear.

Kirk

Chambers wrote:

>

> What do you do when your heartbeat shows up in your neurofeedback

> signal?

>

> Here's some background information.

>

> I have never been able to " connect " with the feedback while doing

> neurofeedback trying to train a left side disconnect. I can do GSR and

> HRV training and can connect with the feedback and influence the

> signal. I can do nIR HEG training and can connect with the feedback

> and influence the signal. I know how to do biofeedback.

> Unfortunately, I've never been able to have the same kind of influence

> over the feedback while training this left side disconnect. I've tried

> several of the TLC protocols. I've tried the 2C Windowed Squash at

> T3/A1/g/T4/A2. I've tried the 1C one Inh (19-38 Hz) at T3/A1 and

> T3/T4. I have no more influence over the signal and the feedback the

> than I have over the sun coming up in the morning.

>

> I've been very frustrated and have thrown a lot of money and time and

> effort at the problem with little or no positive results. I've bought

> the new QDS Focus and that didn't seem to help. I just bought the

> ActiveEEG box because I thought I might have too much electromagnetic

> interference here at my apartment and am trying to figure out if that

> will help.

>

> I think I may have found something tough. I changed the audio feedback

> of the 1C one inhibit design. I removed the MIDI feedback and put in a

> tone generator in its place. And then I did the 1C one inhibit at

> T3/A1/G with new QDS focus with the ActiveEEG. I'm about 95% sure I'm

> hearing and seeing my heartbeat in the feedback.

>

> Is that possible? I suspect that may be a big part of my problem

> connecting with the feedback. What can I do about that?

>

> I hope this makes sense. I'd appreciate any advice you could offer.

>

>

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I was using the ActiveEEG electrodes. The active electrode was at T3

and it was a neurotrode. The reference electrode was a disposable

snap electrode at the left mastoid. The ground electrode was a

disposable snap electrode at the right mastoid. I was not using ear

clips or linked ears.

I have gained weight recently so that's probably the problem. I

don't know if I'm going to be able to lose much weight at this time

though. I think I will try pasting the dispoable electrodes to the

backs of my upper ears.

Thank you for your reply Dr. Rocatti. And thanks to Kirk as well.

> >

> > What do you do when your heartbeat shows up in your

neurofeedback

> > signal?

> >

> > Here's some background information.

> >

> > I have never been able to " connect " with the feedback while doing

> > neurofeedback trying to train a left side disconnect. I can do

GSR and

> > HRV training and can connect with the feedback and influence the

> > signal. I can do nIR HEG training and can connect with the

feedback

> > and influence the signal. I know how to do biofeedback.

> > Unfortunately, I've never been able to have the same kind of

influence

> > over the feedback while training this left side disconnect. I've

tried

> > several of the TLC protocols. I've tried the 2C Windowed Squash at

> > T3/A1/g/T4/A2. I've tried the 1C one Inh (19-38 Hz) at T3/A1 and

> > T3/T4. I have no more influence over the signal and the feedback

the

> > than I have over the sun coming up in the morning.

> >

> > I've been very frustrated and have thrown a lot of money and time

and

> > effort at the problem with little or no positive results. I've

bought

> > the new QDS Focus and that didn't seem to help. I just bought the

> > ActiveEEG box because I thought I might have too much

electromagnetic

> > interference here at my apartment and am trying to figure out if

that

> > will help.

> >

> > I think I may have found something tough. I changed the audio

feedback

> > of the 1C one inhibit design. I removed the MIDI feedback and put

in a

> > tone generator in its place. And then I did the 1C one inhibit at

> > T3/A1/G with new QDS focus with the ActiveEEG. I'm about 95% sure

I'm

> > hearing and seeing my heartbeat in the feedback.

> >

> > Is that possible? I suspect that may be a big part of my problem

> > connecting with the feedback. What can I do about that?

> >

> > I hope this makes sense. I'd appreciate any advice you could

offer.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

>

> Dr. Rocatti, M.D.

> qdssystems@...

> http://www.qeeg.com.ar

> QDS Systems

> Biosignal Research Tools

>

[Guest guest]

I was using the ActiveEEG electrodes. The active electrode was at T3

and it was a neurotrode. The reference electrode was a disposable

snap electrode at the left mastoid. The ground electrode was a

disposable snap electrode at the right mastoid. I was not using ear

clips or linked ears.

I have gained weight recently so that's probably the problem. I

don't know if I'm going to be able to lose much weight at this time

though. I think I will try pasting the dispoable electrodes to the

backs of my upper ears.

Thank you for your reply Dr. Rocatti. And thanks to Kirk as well.

> >

> > What do you do when your heartbeat shows up in your

neurofeedback

> > signal?

> >

> > Here's some background information.

> >

> > I have never been able to " connect " with the feedback while doing

> > neurofeedback trying to train a left side disconnect. I can do

GSR and

> > HRV training and can connect with the feedback and influence the

> > signal. I can do nIR HEG training and can connect with the

feedback

> > and influence the signal. I know how to do biofeedback.

> > Unfortunately, I've never been able to have the same kind of

influence

> > over the feedback while training this left side disconnect. I've

tried

> > several of the TLC protocols. I've tried the 2C Windowed Squash at

> > T3/A1/g/T4/A2. I've tried the 1C one Inh (19-38 Hz) at T3/A1 and

> > T3/T4. I have no more influence over the signal and the feedback

the

> > than I have over the sun coming up in the morning.

> >

> > I've been very frustrated and have thrown a lot of money and time

and

> > effort at the problem with little or no positive results. I've

bought

> > the new QDS Focus and that didn't seem to help. I just bought the

> > ActiveEEG box because I thought I might have too much

electromagnetic

> > interference here at my apartment and am trying to figure out if

that

> > will help.

> >

> > I think I may have found something tough. I changed the audio

feedback

> > of the 1C one inhibit design. I removed the MIDI feedback and put

in a

> > tone generator in its place. And then I did the 1C one inhibit at

> > T3/A1/G with new QDS focus with the ActiveEEG. I'm about 95% sure

I'm

> > hearing and seeing my heartbeat in the feedback.

> >

> > Is that possible? I suspect that may be a big part of my problem

> > connecting with the feedback. What can I do about that?

> >

> > I hope this makes sense. I'd appreciate any advice you could

offer.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

>

> Dr. Rocatti, M.D.

> qdssystems@...

> http://www.qeeg.com.ar

> QDS Systems

> Biosignal Research Tools

>