Recent blood test results (Was RE: Sudden weight loss, (etc))

March 9, 2012

Thanks. I found some blood test results from 22 December. I was told by the

hospital everything was fine with the results but I do note that some of his

results are right towards the bottome of the reference ranges eg:

WBC was 4.1 (ref 4- 13)

Lymphocytes 1.51 (ref 1.5 -6.8)

I know Tegretol can produce Neutropaenia - so I wonder what is happening with

his WBC.

His thyroid results on 22/12 were

TSH 2.5 (ref 0.35- 5.5)

Free T4 11.9 (ref 10 - 19.8)

Margaret

> >

> > Hi Margaret

> >

> > First thing that springs to mind is chloesterol, have you had his checked

lately, i was reading (only the other day) ina's story (Dr Shaw's

step daughter) its at the bottom of the page on following link, might be worth

getting tested for it.

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> > http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/cholesterol.asp

> >

> > x

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> > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> > From: m.collins9@

> > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:39:35 +0000

> > Subject: Sudden weight loss, yellowing skin and

lassitude and pallor - help, please?

> >

> > Reports from school and a visitor to school yesterday say H has yellow hands

and feet , perhaps body, too. Also yawning, lassitude, pallor and constantly

asking for food. And the visitor said he's lost a lot of weight since they last

saw him 2 weeks ago. (He looked fine on Monday. as far as I was concerned.)

> >

> > I and the epilepsy nurse at Addenbrooke's have persuaded the school to take

him to the doc and get a liver function test tomorrow morning.

> >

> > I am very worried it could be the Tegretol or something else serious. He

went off Monday morning just fine.

> >

> > He's been on the GAPS diet for 4 months and has slowly lost a bit of excess

weight and his pot belly went down - but this sounds worrying.

> > Any ideas, please? He's not on many supplements.

> >

> > If necessary I shall whisk him off to hospital (A & E five minutes away)when

he gets home mid afternoon.

> > Margaret

> >

>

March 9, 2012

From what I understand TSH at 2.5 is high, especially for a child.

The TPA-UK group has said that adults with TSH at 2.5 and above will warrant

treatment in many European countries, Andy Cutler has said that ideally TSH for

a child should not be above 1.5 and for an adult not above 2.0 and generally I

believe that around 1.0 is optimum.

Kenny

> > >

> > > Hi Margaret

> > >

> > > First thing that springs to mind is chloesterol, have you had his checked

lately, i was reading (only the other day) ina's story (Dr Shaw's

step daughter) its at the bottom of the page on following link, might be worth

getting tested for it.

> > >

> > > http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/cholesterol.asp

> > >

> > > x

> > >

> > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> > > From: m.collins9@

> > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:39:35 +0000

> > > Subject: Sudden weight loss, yellowing skin and

lassitude and pallor - help, please?

> > >

> > > Reports from school and a visitor to school yesterday say H has yellow

hands and feet , perhaps body, too. Also yawning, lassitude, pallor and

constantly asking for food. And the visitor said he's lost a lot of weight since

they last saw him 2 weeks ago. (He looked fine on Monday. as far as I was

concerned.)

> > >

> > > I and the epilepsy nurse at Addenbrooke's have persuaded the school to

take him to the doc and get a liver function test tomorrow morning.

> > >

> > > I am very worried it could be the Tegretol or something else serious. He

went off Monday morning just fine.

> > >

> > > He's been on the GAPS diet for 4 months and has slowly lost a bit of

excess weight and his pot belly went down - but this sounds worrying.

> > > Any ideas, please? He's not on many supplements.

> > >

> > > If necessary I shall whisk him off to hospital (A & E five minutes away)when

he gets home mid afternoon.

> > > Margaret

> > >

> >

>

March 9, 2012

Trouble is Kenny they wont treat as long as it doesn't go outof the ref. range - even thenthey'll wait and see and retest to see if it lowers. Fustrating to say the least when symptoms continue but blood tests are judged as ok. JanetTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: k.ozbo@...Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:23:47 +0000Subject: Re: Recent blood test results (Was RE: Sudden weight loss, (etc))

From what I understand TSH at 2.5 is high, especially for a child.

The TPA-UK group has said that adults with TSH at 2.5 and above will warrant treatment in many European countries, Andy Cutler has said that ideally TSH for a child should not be above 1.5 and for an adult not above 2.0 and generally I believe that around 1.0 is optimum.

Kenny

> > >

> > > Hi Margaret

> > >

> > > First thing that springs to mind is chloesterol, have you had his checked lately, i was reading (only the other day) ina's story (Dr Shaw's step daughter) its at the bottom of the page on following link, might be worth getting tested for it.

> > >

> > > http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/cholesterol.asp

> > >

> > > x

> > >

> > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> > > From: m.collins9@

> > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:39:35 +0000

> > > Subject: Sudden weight loss, yellowing skin and lassitude and pallor - help, please?

> > >

> > > Reports from school and a visitor to school yesterday say H has yellow hands and feet , perhaps body, too. Also yawning, lassitude, pallor and constantly asking for food. And the visitor said he's lost a lot of weight since they last saw him 2 weeks ago. (He looked fine on Monday. as far as I was concerned.)

> > >

> > > I and the epilepsy nurse at Addenbrooke's have persuaded the school to take him to the doc and get a liver function test tomorrow morning.

> > >

> > > I am very worried it could be the Tegretol or something else serious. He went off Monday morning just fine.

> > >

> > > He's been on the GAPS diet for 4 months and has slowly lost a bit of excess weight and his pot belly went down - but this sounds worrying.

> > > Any ideas, please? He's not on many supplements.

> > >

> > > If necessary I shall whisk him off to hospital (A & E five minutes away)when he gets home mid afternoon.

> > > Margaret

> > >

> >

>

March 9, 2012

Trouble is Kenny they wont treat as long as it doesn't go outof the ref. range - even thenthey'll wait and see and retest to see if it lowers. Fustrating to say the least when symptoms continue but blood tests are judged as ok. JanetTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: k.ozbo@...Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:23:47 +0000Subject: Re: Recent blood test results (Was RE: Sudden weight loss, (etc))

From what I understand TSH at 2.5 is high, especially for a child.

The TPA-UK group has said that adults with TSH at 2.5 and above will warrant treatment in many European countries, Andy Cutler has said that ideally TSH for a child should not be above 1.5 and for an adult not above 2.0 and generally I believe that around 1.0 is optimum.

Kenny

> > >

> > > Hi Margaret

> > >

> > > First thing that springs to mind is chloesterol, have you had his checked lately, i was reading (only the other day) ina's story (Dr Shaw's step daughter) its at the bottom of the page on following link, might be worth getting tested for it.

> > >

> > > http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/cholesterol.asp

> > >

> > > x

> > >

> > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> > > From: m.collins9@

> > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:39:35 +0000

> > > Subject: Sudden weight loss, yellowing skin and lassitude and pallor - help, please?

> > >

> > > Reports from school and a visitor to school yesterday say H has yellow hands and feet , perhaps body, too. Also yawning, lassitude, pallor and constantly asking for food. And the visitor said he's lost a lot of weight since they last saw him 2 weeks ago. (He looked fine on Monday. as far as I was concerned.)

> > >

> > > I and the epilepsy nurse at Addenbrooke's have persuaded the school to take him to the doc and get a liver function test tomorrow morning.

> > >

> > > I am very worried it could be the Tegretol or something else serious. He went off Monday morning just fine.

> > >

> > > He's been on the GAPS diet for 4 months and has slowly lost a bit of excess weight and his pot belly went down - but this sounds worrying.

> > > Any ideas, please? He's not on many supplements.

> > >

> > > If necessary I shall whisk him off to hospital (A & E five minutes away)when he gets home mid afternoon.

> > > Margaret

> > >

> >

>

March 9, 2012

You would probably have to go private and even then you might have trouble

finding a doc that knows what they are doing, as Janet has said you are unlikely

to get treatment with a TSH below 5, it's not too long ago when the range was

about 0.4-10 which meant people would be near enough on death's door before a

problem was finally recognised and unfortunately most docs seem to be quite poor

at treatment they don't usually look at the adrenals or associate things like

poor blood sugar regulation as part of an overall health problem and when they

do give thyroid replacement it's very likely to be synthetic rather than

something like Armour which is usually far more helpful.

The TPA-UK group might be helpful for finding a decent doc and have a good

files section although this does seem to be a mainly adult list.

If you have further blood tests if possible try to get free T3 which Andy Cutler

has said is important for brain development in children but use the ref.range

below.

http://www.southend.nhs.uk/pathologyhandbook/test_directory/tindex/t3.htm

Free T3 should ideally be in the upper third of the ref.range.

If possible also get Thyroid antibodies tested.

All the best

Kenny

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Margaret

> > > > >

> > > > > First thing that springs to mind is chloesterol, have you had his

checked lately, i was reading (only the other day) ina's story (Dr

Shaw's step daughter) its at the bottom of the page on following link, might be

worth getting tested for it.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/cholesterol.asp

> > > > >

> > > > > x

> > > > >

> > > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> > > > > From: m.collins9@

> > > > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:39:35 +0000

> > > > > Subject: Sudden weight loss, yellowing skin

and lassitude and pallor - help, please?

> > > > >

> > > > > Reports from school and a visitor to school yesterday say H has yellow

hands and feet , perhaps body, too. Also yawning, lassitude, pallor and

constantly asking for food. And the visitor said he's lost a lot of weight since

they last saw him 2 weeks ago. (He looked fine on Monday. as far as I was

concerned.)

> > > > >

> > > > > I and the epilepsy nurse at Addenbrooke's have persuaded the school to

take him to the doc and get a liver function test tomorrow morning.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am very worried it could be the Tegretol or something else serious.

He went off Monday morning just fine.

> > > > >

> > > > > He's been on the GAPS diet for 4 months and has slowly lost a bit of

excess weight and his pot belly went down - but this sounds worrying.

> > > > > Any ideas, please? He's not on many supplements.

> > > > >

> > > > > If necessary I shall whisk him off to hospital (A & E five minutes

away)when he gets home mid afternoon.

> > > > > Margaret

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 9, 2012