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GcMaf is an immune system repairing treatment.

It activates macro phages in the blood to attack viruses, cancers etc that go

undetected by releasing an enzyme called Nagalase, which can be tested for in

the blood.

GcMaf is a natural product that the body should make itself but is unable to.

GcMaf explained:

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>

> Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with

> mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism?

> Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not

> seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference?

> has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very

> well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height,

> teeth, etc.

> I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this

> for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing.

> Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would

> know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting,

> especially as this is a severe 13yr old.

> I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story.

> Vicky

>

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Hi Nura,

The GcMaf available from Holland is the homeopathic version from BioPure called

KMAF by Dr Klinghardt. These are oral drops and not injections.

June

> > >

> > > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with

> > > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism?

> > > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not

> > > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference?

> > > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very

> > > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height,

> > > teeth, etc.

> > > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this

> > > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing.

> > > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would

> > > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting,

> > > especially as this is a severe 13yr old.

> > > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story.

> > > Vicky

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Hi Nura,

The GcMaf available from Holland is the homeopathic version from BioPure called

KMAF by Dr Klinghardt. These are oral drops and not injections.

June

> > >

> > > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with

> > > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism?

> > > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not

> > > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference?

> > > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very

> > > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height,

> > > teeth, etc.

> > > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this

> > > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing.

> > > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would

> > > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting,

> > > especially as this is a severe 13yr old.

> > > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story.

> > > Vicky

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Hi Vicky,

I dabble in the scientific aspect as I have a left brain tendency, so cannot

help it! I had a discussion about GcMaf with my practitioner who has an interest

in cancer & other chronic illness and treats patients with a variety of

illnesses, not just autism. Its no coincidence that there is commonality in

research & treatments alike when it comes to the immune system.

The presence of excessive Nagalase is just a symptom that something is wrong, in

cancer patients. The causation in autism maybe different

without the presence of cancer cells. Dr Bradstreet is the only MD using it for

autism, under critical clinical instruction. It appears that you can buy in it

from approved clinics in Europe but there is no dosage control or recommendation

for autism and there is no approval for it in the UK. Dr K's homeopathic version

is also in experimental stage but cheaper & way safer.

In 'overdrive' do you mean he is always ill?

June

> >

> > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with

> > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism?

> > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not

> > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference?

> > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very

> > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height,

> > teeth, etc.

> > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this

> > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing.

> > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would

> > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting,

> > especially as this is a severe 13yr old.

> > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story.

> > Vicky

> >

>

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Hi Vicky,

I dabble in the scientific aspect as I have a left brain tendency, so cannot

help it! I had a discussion about GcMaf with my practitioner who has an interest

in cancer & other chronic illness and treats patients with a variety of

illnesses, not just autism. Its no coincidence that there is commonality in

research & treatments alike when it comes to the immune system.

The presence of excessive Nagalase is just a symptom that something is wrong, in

cancer patients. The causation in autism maybe different

without the presence of cancer cells. Dr Bradstreet is the only MD using it for

autism, under critical clinical instruction. It appears that you can buy in it

from approved clinics in Europe but there is no dosage control or recommendation

for autism and there is no approval for it in the UK. Dr K's homeopathic version

is also in experimental stage but cheaper & way safer.

In 'overdrive' do you mean he is always ill?

June

> >

> > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with

> > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism?

> > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not

> > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference?

> > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very

> > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height,

> > teeth, etc.

> > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this

> > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing.

> > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would

> > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting,

> > especially as this is a severe 13yr old.

> > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story.

> > Vicky

> >

>

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Hi Vicky,

I dabble in the scientific aspect as I have a left brain tendency, so cannot

help it! I had a discussion about GcMaf with my practitioner who has an interest

in cancer & other chronic illness and treats patients with a variety of

illnesses, not just autism. Its no coincidence that there is commonality in

research & treatments alike when it comes to the immune system.

The presence of excessive Nagalase is just a symptom that something is wrong, in

cancer patients. The causation in autism maybe different

without the presence of cancer cells. Dr Bradstreet is the only MD using it for

autism, under critical clinical instruction. It appears that you can buy in it

from approved clinics in Europe but there is no dosage control or recommendation

for autism and there is no approval for it in the UK. Dr K's homeopathic version

is also in experimental stage but cheaper & way safer.

In 'overdrive' do you mean he is always ill?

June

> >

> > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with

> > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism?

> > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not

> > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference?

> > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very

> > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height,

> > teeth, etc.

> > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this

> > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing.

> > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would

> > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting,

> > especially as this is a severe 13yr old.

> > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story.

> > Vicky

> >

>

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Hi can I add my ten cents everyone:

- My big question I can't get answered is - once GCMAF has done its work, how

long does it last, is it forever or does the body begin to rely on it?

- still figuring out how safe it is, I never go by what labs say.

- Yes, my approach is going to be treat me first, with a combination of GcMaf

and Barclaycard. Been planning it since I saw it on the Bradstreet blog.

- Bradstreet is $375-$400 per hour. If he's having success with Autism, (85%

response is quoted on the site) how much of that is because of the OTHER supps

he puts with it - has he got some kind of protocol? Therefore if you're going

to spend $660 on the treatment, then maybe it would be worth it?

- Bradstreet is using lower doses, but I have spoken to Noakes at the lab

today where you buy it from, it is in Guernsey, and he has answered all my

questions, he is a top bloke, says he has great respect for what Bradstreet is

doing but they recommend the same dose (not low dose) for everyone. Told him

Autism is different.

- Noakes believes that this can rebuild the immune system in 16 weeks

- If that is so Noakes, then I am going to rebuild my immune system for

me, as I have had serious autoimmunity (some of you know) so lets see if it

sorts me out first

- You can test for Nagalase via http://www.europeanlaboratory.nl/

- Mandi has posted the link for the Vitamin D test which is cheap and both J and

I are having it, because I have been giving J a fair bit of D3 and its fantastic

for our family

- My specialist in UK I see has said he is willing to monitor my health and

results, and has threatened to run down Guildford High St naked if it works,

which I must see.

Can't wait for the TA conference, missed it last year, certainly going this

year. Sounds like a belter!

Eileen xxx

>

> - I think he charges $500 US/hr.

> I was corresponding with him by email for a bit and he suggested a 15 minute

consult. Not sure how many brief consults it would take to get GcMAF treatments

started though...

> HTH, Kim

>

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Hi can I add my ten cents everyone:

- My big question I can't get answered is - once GCMAF has done its work, how

long does it last, is it forever or does the body begin to rely on it?

- still figuring out how safe it is, I never go by what labs say.

- Yes, my approach is going to be treat me first, with a combination of GcMaf

and Barclaycard. Been planning it since I saw it on the Bradstreet blog.

- Bradstreet is $375-$400 per hour. If he's having success with Autism, (85%

response is quoted on the site) how much of that is because of the OTHER supps

he puts with it - has he got some kind of protocol? Therefore if you're going

to spend $660 on the treatment, then maybe it would be worth it?

- Bradstreet is using lower doses, but I have spoken to Noakes at the lab

today where you buy it from, it is in Guernsey, and he has answered all my

questions, he is a top bloke, says he has great respect for what Bradstreet is

doing but they recommend the same dose (not low dose) for everyone. Told him

Autism is different.

- Noakes believes that this can rebuild the immune system in 16 weeks

- If that is so Noakes, then I am going to rebuild my immune system for

me, as I have had serious autoimmunity (some of you know) so lets see if it

sorts me out first

- You can test for Nagalase via http://www.europeanlaboratory.nl/

- Mandi has posted the link for the Vitamin D test which is cheap and both J and

I are having it, because I have been giving J a fair bit of D3 and its fantastic

for our family

- My specialist in UK I see has said he is willing to monitor my health and

results, and has threatened to run down Guildford High St naked if it works,

which I must see.

Can't wait for the TA conference, missed it last year, certainly going this

year. Sounds like a belter!

Eileen xxx

>

> - I think he charges $500 US/hr.

> I was corresponding with him by email for a bit and he suggested a 15 minute

consult. Not sure how many brief consults it would take to get GcMAF treatments

started though...

> HTH, Kim

>

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Yep just made that point above. He has got a protocol and he knows those

patients.

Was just talking to a mutual friend of ours on the phone, you have been around

longer than I have, but in the past few years I've seen a lot of Woo

treatments.

One example is Secretin. Do people remember what happened with that?

Started off from porcine, then that was too difficult to make money out of it,

became synthetic, not as effective many thought.

Going to do it on me though, to see what happens.

xx

>

> All that worries me is Dr B has a record of 'major success' usually about

> every 18 months...................summat different every time of course,

> groundbreaking, you can usually ONLY get it from him...................

>

> Mx

>

>

> In a message dated 20/02/2012 18:50:58 GMT Standard Time,

> biomed@... writes:

>

> - Bradstreet is $375-$400 per hour. If he's having success with Autism,

> (85% response is quoted on the site) how much of that is because of the OTHER

> supps he puts with it - has he got some kind of protocol? Therefore if

> you're going to spend $660 on the treatment, then maybe it would be worth it?

>

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Yep just made that point above. He has got a protocol and he knows those

patients.

Was just talking to a mutual friend of ours on the phone, you have been around

longer than I have, but in the past few years I've seen a lot of Woo

treatments.

One example is Secretin. Do people remember what happened with that?

Started off from porcine, then that was too difficult to make money out of it,

became synthetic, not as effective many thought.

Going to do it on me though, to see what happens.

xx

>

> All that worries me is Dr B has a record of 'major success' usually about

> every 18 months...................summat different every time of course,

> groundbreaking, you can usually ONLY get it from him...................

>

> Mx

>

>

> In a message dated 20/02/2012 18:50:58 GMT Standard Time,

> biomed@... writes:

>

> - Bradstreet is $375-$400 per hour. If he's having success with Autism,

> (85% response is quoted on the site) how much of that is because of the OTHER

> supps he puts with it - has he got some kind of protocol? Therefore if

> you're going to spend $660 on the treatment, then maybe it would be worth it?

>

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Yep just made that point above. He has got a protocol and he knows those

patients.

Was just talking to a mutual friend of ours on the phone, you have been around

longer than I have, but in the past few years I've seen a lot of Woo

treatments.

One example is Secretin. Do people remember what happened with that?

Started off from porcine, then that was too difficult to make money out of it,

became synthetic, not as effective many thought.

Going to do it on me though, to see what happens.

xx

>

> All that worries me is Dr B has a record of 'major success' usually about

> every 18 months...................summat different every time of course,

> groundbreaking, you can usually ONLY get it from him...................

>

> Mx

>

>

> In a message dated 20/02/2012 18:50:58 GMT Standard Time,

> biomed@... writes:

>

> - Bradstreet is $375-$400 per hour. If he's having success with Autism,

> (85% response is quoted on the site) how much of that is because of the OTHER

> supps he puts with it - has he got some kind of protocol? Therefore if

> you're going to spend $660 on the treatment, then maybe it would be worth it?

>

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I would love not to spend the £95 its going to cost (£70 Nagalase, £25 Vit D)

but was first thing my practitioner asked :(

> >

> > - I think he charges $500 US/hr.

> > I was corresponding with him by email for a bit and he suggested a 15 minute

> consult. Not sure how many brief consults it would take to get GcMAF

treatments

> started though...

> > HTH, Kim

> >

>

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Hi,

I believe Dr Bradstreet has done extensive research with GcMAF so his dosages

have been fine-tuned for children. You are right to question what his success is

based on. He may have 'prepared' or selected suitable patients so outcomes will

vary depending on the overall health of each patient. The 85% success rate does

not state the sample number.

A compromised immune system is a symptom that the body is not coping with

inflammation or disease, treating the symptoms may not lead to recovery or

healing so GcMAF is not a miracle cure-all and it has not been in use long

enough to observe long term outcomes. No one knows for sure and there are side

effects & warnings from Dr B about wrong dosages.

If you do a google search there is even a guy running a diary of his own

treatment.

June

>

> Hi can I add my ten cents everyone:

>

> - My big question I can't get answered is - once GCMAF has done its work, how

long does it last, is it forever or does the body begin to rely on it?

>

> - still figuring out how safe it is, I never go by what labs say.

>

> - Yes, my approach is going to be treat me first, with a combination of GcMaf

and Barclaycard. Been planning it since I saw it on the Bradstreet blog.

>

> - Bradstreet is $375-$400 per hour. If he's having success with Autism, (85%

response is quoted on the site) how much of that is because of the OTHER supps

he puts with it - has he got some kind of protocol? Therefore if you're going

to spend $660 on the treatment, then maybe it would be worth it?

>

> - Bradstreet is using lower doses, but I have spoken to Noakes at the

lab today where you buy it from, it is in Guernsey, and he has answered all my

questions, he is a top bloke, says he has great respect for what Bradstreet is

doing but they recommend the same dose (not low dose) for everyone. Told him

Autism is different.

>

> - Noakes believes that this can rebuild the immune system in 16 weeks

>

> - If that is so Noakes, then I am going to rebuild my immune system for

me, as I have had serious autoimmunity (some of you know) so lets see if it

sorts me out first

>

> - You can test for Nagalase via http://www.europeanlaboratory.nl/

> - Mandi has posted the link for the Vitamin D test which is cheap and both J

and I are having it, because I have been giving J a fair bit of D3 and its

fantastic for our family

>

> - My specialist in UK I see has said he is willing to monitor my health and

results, and has threatened to run down Guildford High St naked if it works,

which I must see.

>

> Can't wait for the TA conference, missed it last year, certainly going this

year. Sounds like a belter!

>

> Eileen xxx

>

>

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Hi,

I believe Dr Bradstreet has done extensive research with GcMAF so his dosages

have been fine-tuned for children. You are right to question what his success is

based on. He may have 'prepared' or selected suitable patients so outcomes will

vary depending on the overall health of each patient. The 85% success rate does

not state the sample number.

A compromised immune system is a symptom that the body is not coping with

inflammation or disease, treating the symptoms may not lead to recovery or

healing so GcMAF is not a miracle cure-all and it has not been in use long

enough to observe long term outcomes. No one knows for sure and there are side

effects & warnings from Dr B about wrong dosages.

If you do a google search there is even a guy running a diary of his own

treatment.

June

>

> Hi can I add my ten cents everyone:

>

> - My big question I can't get answered is - once GCMAF has done its work, how

long does it last, is it forever or does the body begin to rely on it?

>

> - still figuring out how safe it is, I never go by what labs say.

>

> - Yes, my approach is going to be treat me first, with a combination of GcMaf

and Barclaycard. Been planning it since I saw it on the Bradstreet blog.

>

> - Bradstreet is $375-$400 per hour. If he's having success with Autism, (85%

response is quoted on the site) how much of that is because of the OTHER supps

he puts with it - has he got some kind of protocol? Therefore if you're going

to spend $660 on the treatment, then maybe it would be worth it?

>

> - Bradstreet is using lower doses, but I have spoken to Noakes at the

lab today where you buy it from, it is in Guernsey, and he has answered all my

questions, he is a top bloke, says he has great respect for what Bradstreet is

doing but they recommend the same dose (not low dose) for everyone. Told him

Autism is different.

>

> - Noakes believes that this can rebuild the immune system in 16 weeks

>

> - If that is so Noakes, then I am going to rebuild my immune system for

me, as I have had serious autoimmunity (some of you know) so lets see if it

sorts me out first

>

> - You can test for Nagalase via http://www.europeanlaboratory.nl/

> - Mandi has posted the link for the Vitamin D test which is cheap and both J

and I are having it, because I have been giving J a fair bit of D3 and its

fantastic for our family

>

> - My specialist in UK I see has said he is willing to monitor my health and

results, and has threatened to run down Guildford High St naked if it works,

which I must see.

>

> Can't wait for the TA conference, missed it last year, certainly going this

year. Sounds like a belter!

>

> Eileen xxx

>

>

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