Re: Treating Autism with Antibiotics

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Highly interesting but doesn't this show that the immune system needs a help. Do they know for sure it was LYME and not perhaps an unknown pathogen was also likely? To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012, 11:23

Subject: Treating Autism with Antibiotics

This was shown on French telly the other day – probably what Mandi posted re Montagnier speaking up?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

[Guest guest]

Highly interesting but doesn't this show that the immune system needs a help. Do they know for sure it was LYME and not perhaps an unknown pathogen was also likely? To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012, 11:23

Subject: Treating Autism with Antibiotics

This was shown on French telly the other day – probably what Mandi posted re Montagnier speaking up?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

[Guest guest]

On a blog I saw, he was quoted as saying he thought a number of bacteria were

likely

Eileen

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> Highly interesting but doesn't this show that the immune system needs a

help.  Do they know for sure it was LYME and not perhaps an unknown pathogen

was also likely?

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> To: " Autism-Biomedical-Europe "

<Autism-Biomedical-Europe >

> Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012, 11:23

> Subject: Treating Autism with Antibiotics

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> This was shown on French telly the other day †" probably what Mandi posted re

Montagnier speaking up?

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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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[Guest guest]

On a blog I saw, he was quoted as saying he thought a number of bacteria were

likely

Eileen

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> Highly interesting but doesn't this show that the immune system needs a

help.  Do they know for sure it was LYME and not perhaps an unknown pathogen

was also likely?

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

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> To: " Autism-Biomedical-Europe "

<Autism-Biomedical-Europe >

> Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012, 11:23

> Subject: Treating Autism with Antibiotics

>

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> This was shown on French telly the other day †" probably what Mandi posted re

Montagnier speaking up?

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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

There was a lot of controversy over the initial trial plans - both Autism

treatment Trust and ARI were going to be involved.

I posted earlier to see if anyone knew anything or anyone whose child was

involved, but didn't get any replies.

Mainstream scientists are very sceptical about his methods of determining

infections.

I'm very interested in this - but could do with some hard evidence. Can anyone

help, please?

Patience

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> This was shown on French telly the other day ­ probably what Mandi posted re

> Montagnier speaking up?

>

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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

There was a lot of controversy over the initial trial plans - both Autism

treatment Trust and ARI were going to be involved.

I posted earlier to see if anyone knew anything or anyone whose child was

involved, but didn't get any replies.

Mainstream scientists are very sceptical about his methods of determining

infections.

I'm very interested in this - but could do with some hard evidence. Can anyone

help, please?

Patience

>

> This was shown on French telly the other day ­ probably what Mandi posted re

> Montagnier speaking up?

>

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

>

[Guest guest]

What method are you talking about for determining infection? If you mean the research published last year by Montagnier, I don't think it is linked in any way to this study or how they pick treatments. Could be wrong though?Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:10:45 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Treating Autism with Antibiotics

Hi,

There was a lot of controversy over the initial trial plans - both Autism treatment Trust and ARI were going to be involved.

I posted earlier to see if anyone knew anything or anyone whose child was involved, but didn't get any replies.

Mainstream scientists are very sceptical about his methods of determining infections.

I'm very interested in this - but could do with some hard evidence. Can anyone help, please?

Patience

>

> This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted re

> Montagnier speaking up?

>

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

>

[Guest guest]

What method are you talking about for determining infection? If you mean the research published last year by Montagnier, I don't think it is linked in any way to this study or how they pick treatments. Could be wrong though?Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:10:45 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Treating Autism with Antibiotics

Hi,

There was a lot of controversy over the initial trial plans - both Autism treatment Trust and ARI were going to be involved.

I posted earlier to see if anyone knew anything or anyone whose child was involved, but didn't get any replies.

Mainstream scientists are very sceptical about his methods of determining infections.

I'm very interested in this - but could do with some hard evidence. Can anyone help, please?

Patience

>

> This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted re

> Montagnier speaking up?

>

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

>

[Guest guest]

http://montagnier.org/Autism-the-microbial-track

Have a look at paragraph 6. Determination of DNA fragments by electro-magnetic

waves? Isn't that what he was picking up at various dilutions, which the

homeopaths were saying was proof oh homeopathy. Or am I wrong?

Patience

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> > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted

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> > Montagnier speaking up?

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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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[Guest guest]

Oh No! Just what I was worried about!!Thanks for posting!Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:01:08 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Treating Autism with Antibiotics

http://montagnier.org/Autism-the-microbial-track

Have a look at paragraph 6. Determination of DNA fragments by electro-magnetic waves? Isn't that what he was picking up at various dilutions, which the homeopaths were saying was proof oh homeopathy. Or am I wrong?

Patience

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> > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted re

> > Montagnier speaking up?

> >

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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh No! Just what I was worried about!!Thanks for posting!Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:01:08 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Treating Autism with Antibiotics

http://montagnier.org/Autism-the-microbial-track

Have a look at paragraph 6. Determination of DNA fragments by electro-magnetic waves? Isn't that what he was picking up at various dilutions, which the homeopaths were saying was proof oh homeopathy. Or am I wrong?

Patience

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> > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted re

> > Montagnier speaking up?

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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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[Guest guest]

Isn't the energetic output of various organs the basis of MRI imaging used

frequently in mainstream? The tumors/tissue abnormalities have different

frequencies than teh area being scanned. Hulda also used the frequency of

organisms as basis for her work. Many of the Lyme/coinfections treatment used a

frequency model to eradicate the bug . Homeopathy too. As for mainstream-

several times when my daughter semmed esp 'sick' to me but w/o fever, high WBC

or shift in WBC, acknowledged by mainstream, I had a CRP done through Direct

Labs. All were over 25 - very high! w normal being below 3. All were read as

'lab error' by her mainstream doc. Our doc now actually orders this test to

assess inflammation. She is one of those who was always better the couple of

times she had antibiotics as a toddler. Pandas and a weak Lyme test dot the

picture now w pandas treated and titers staying down. I would not be concerned

at all about the 'energy' factor.

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> > > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted

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> > > Montagnier speaking up?

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> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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[Guest guest]

Isn't the energetic output of various organs the basis of MRI imaging used

frequently in mainstream? The tumors/tissue abnormalities have different

frequencies than teh area being scanned. Hulda also used the frequency of

organisms as basis for her work. Many of the Lyme/coinfections treatment used a

frequency model to eradicate the bug . Homeopathy too. As for mainstream-

several times when my daughter semmed esp 'sick' to me but w/o fever, high WBC

or shift in WBC, acknowledged by mainstream, I had a CRP done through Direct

Labs. All were over 25 - very high! w normal being below 3. All were read as

'lab error' by her mainstream doc. Our doc now actually orders this test to

assess inflammation. She is one of those who was always better the couple of

times she had antibiotics as a toddler. Pandas and a weak Lyme test dot the

picture now w pandas treated and titers staying down. I would not be concerned

at all about the 'energy' factor.

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> > > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted

re

> > > Montagnier speaking up?

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> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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[Guest guest]

http://www.research.va.gov/programs/tech_transfer/technologies/00-075.pdf

On a slightly different tack, this looks to me as if Finegold and the US

Veterans affairs have taken out a patent on treating autism with abx. I haven't

yet managed to find the patents to read them, or to track down anything else, so

if anyone already knows anything more, please share.

Patience

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> > > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted

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> > > Montagnier speaking up?

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> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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[Guest guest]

http://www.research.va.gov/programs/tech_transfer/technologies/00-075.pdf

On a slightly different tack, this looks to me as if Finegold and the US

Veterans affairs have taken out a patent on treating autism with abx. I haven't

yet managed to find the patents to read them, or to track down anything else, so

if anyone already knows anything more, please share.

Patience

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> > > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted

> re

> > > Montagnier speaking up?

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> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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[Guest guest]

http://www.research.va.gov/programs/tech_transfer/technologies/00-075.pdf

On a slightly different tack, this looks to me as if Finegold and the US

Veterans affairs have taken out a patent on treating autism with abx. I haven't

yet managed to find the patents to read them, or to track down anything else, so

if anyone already knows anything more, please share.

Patience

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> > > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi posted

> re

> > > Montagnier speaking up?

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> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm having to deal with mainstream. DS adult and not living at home, so no

options.

Patience

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> > > > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi

posted re

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm having to deal with mainstream. DS adult and not living at home, so no

options.

Patience

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> > > > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi

posted re

> > > > Montagnier speaking up?

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> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm having to deal with mainstream. DS adult and not living at home, so no

options.

Patience

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> > > > This was shown on French telly the other day ¡© probably what Mandi

posted re

> > > > Montagnier speaking up?

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> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOno_2m_8LY & sns=fb

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