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I think one of the big problems with supplements and

changing your lifestyle is it takes time, sometimes

months and years to get results and a lot of people

want instant results. I've been on my treatment plan

now for 3 months and am going to give it at least a

year. If I'm no better at that point then I'll try

something else in addition to the supplements I'm

already taking. I already have Guaifenesin but am not

going to try that just yet. With me FMJ built up

gradually over a period of 4-5 years. It's not going

to go away in weeks or even months. Another problem

with supplements is it's expensive. I'm lucky in that

I can afford it. But reading some of the posts it's

sad that a lot of people can't.

Margaret

--- Ellen wrote:

> Tim,

>

> It's so good to hear from someone who isn't bashing

> the supplement industry.

> Everyone though has to have the willingness , and

> for some people they just

> haven't reached that rock bottom point, or they are

> so brain washed from the

> medical society that they believe nothing will work

> for them except drugs to

> relieve the pain....

>

> Unfortunately, drugs only deal with symptoms, and

> never get to the root

> cause of the illness, which is where all illness

> must be addressed.......

> diet is one area that should always be

> addressed......and I also think

> cleansing is important.... then supplementation.

>

> I am reading a book called " Fit for Life " , Has

> anyone read it?

>

> Ellen

> http://www.immunewellness.com

>

>

>

>

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>

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Tim,

This is outstanding! Bravo! I'm copying this to in case she

didn't see this post yet. When did you join ASPIRES? You've been here

a few years so you have a few years worth of archives. In the present

format that has the FEAT archives, it will be very difficult to

upload to Yahoo groups (I can give a longer explanation why, for the

curious) But you, having saved the posts individually, could transfer

them to this group, one by one. It would take awhile - a couple or

three months maybe - but given the time, it could be done. It would

be a long term project - but, it might be the solution.

- Helen

At 03:57 PM 1/21/2008, Tim wrote in response to what Bill asks here:

>WD Loughman wrote:

> > Good, Tim. Is that from your own personal " cache " ?

> >

> > A similar search might turn up stuff on AS' thinking with " metaphor " as

> > well, which should be equally or more useful in the current context.

>

>Yes, I don't delete, some though is unusually archived into a different

>place. I have yet to find a satisfactory email archival method. Probably

>200M of mbox data for Aspires.

>

>Searching is not very satisfactory unless the keywords are distinct.

>Metaphor appears in 29 messages. AS is not a useful term.

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Helen Foisy wrote:

> Tim,

> This is outstanding! Bravo! I'm copying this to in case she

> didn't see this post yet. When did you join ASPIRES? You've been here

> a few years so you have a few years worth of archives. In the present

> format that has the FEAT archives, it will be very difficult to

> upload to Yahoo groups (I can give a longer explanation why, for the

> curious) But you, having saved the posts individually, could transfer

> them to this group, one by one. It would take awhile - a couple or

> three months maybe - but given the time, it could be done. It would

> be a long term project - but, it might be the solution.

> - Helen

Helen, how hard would it be to have somebody send me a *sample* chunk of

the FEAT/ASPIRES archive?

I'd like very much to see what's involved in " massaging the data "

into some useful form. Been thinking about this since right after the

switch to Yahoo.

Not like I don't have a lot on my plate right now, but, well...

I do have a second and near empty 250GB SATA hard-drive, AND a

brand-new 2.4GHz CPU - my equipment's up to the task. [Eat your heart

out, Tim.] And I've considerable experience with similar jobs.

At least I could see what's involved; maybe give pointers to someone

else if it's too big for the time I could commit.

- Bill, 75, AS

--

WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA

http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm

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