Re: Tasteless jokes, and the compulsion to tell them

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Thanks for such a thoughtful answer to the question. I've been thinking about it a lot since reading it. I'm swamped at the moment with a remodeling chore, but I just wanted to hop on and say thanks. Also, I inserted a question or two below.--non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be taught and are content with building up little chains of information.

letters build words, words build sentences , into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.

non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of information in little discerete packets side by side, building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a box and this box is called memory and experience.

now...these bits of information are seperate to each other, laying side by side, un connected and not related.

Daneka here: not in my own case, unless I don't understand fully what you're saying. Everything is connected and related, but not sequencially.

My own style of thinking seeks to have one long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken chain.

i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman and a dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of information an dlink them together.

if i have one chain of memory and it is linear, how do i do this?

side links.

the chain in my head is one chain but i can fold it over and around and make links to the dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have " resonance" i have made a connections. ..almost instantly.Daneka: reminds of the "tesseract" in a Wrinkle in Timethen the conversation turns to hunting dogs, world war 2 and vietnam and i make another connection between these three criteria.Daneka: Many have said that they tell inappropriate jokes repeatedly. Wouldn't a punch in the nose a few years back (sorry again Ian) become one of the links in the chain, a memory, a data point, to be brought forth the next time you're about to tell the same joke? Wouldn't the context come with it?able to link seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules of social ettiquette

( im thinkign hard here, concentrating to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT)Daneka: This I understand very well. If my husband is asked a question, he works very hard to give an honest answer and forgets where he is. So, when the husband of his new research assistant asked how his wife was working out, he gave a thoughtful and full report - sadly, negative and he had never said this information earlier to her. In addition to social etiquette, he will overstep boundaries on privacy, and will say things that he shouldn't about people who spoke to him in confidence. He feels terrible afterwards. Are you saying that the mental exertion to come up with the answer - evaluating the entire chain - leaves no room for "context?" I don't mean tiring, just intense.

once i have done this i suddenly see " you" in front of me, i realise the need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i will....stilll half in the " zone" blurt out my connections.Daneka here: But wouldn't past experience come with it? Even if the past connection were: blurting out my "resonance" before has gotten me in trouble.offensive when you hear me say it.

fascinating when you understand the theory behind it.

it can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to link together instantaneously.Daneka: This I'm sure this is also related to AS memory. My husband's memory is amazing. If he read something, he won't forget it - no matter how complex, including footnotes in academic papers. He could also tell you if the author took an inconsistent position two years later. Yet, he forgets everyday things all of the time.I do need to run. I hope you're up for more of this because I think this explanation unlocks understanding across many different arenas. Daneka, grateful>

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When I was in high school, Helen Keller jokes were fashionable.Really !Daneka From: Helen Foisy <hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET>Subject: Re:

[aspires-relationsh ips] Tasteless jokes, and

the compulsion to tell themTo: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, 22 May, 2008, 8:27 PM helen said: Because, when I am anxious, as I always tend to be in novel social situations, and trying to make that "connection" as you speak of, above, I can blurt out inappropriate things too. Appropriate elsewhere maybe, to those who know the context, but maybe not where I am at the moment. me here: this is a very interesting choice of words helen. i am going to attempt to expand on this. it wont be easy to follow. i have

for want of a better

word..."dumbed" it down a little and the following is part of a conversation i have had with another AS of list who is..."advanced" in his self awareness. non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be taught and are content with building up little chains of information. letters build words, words build sentences , into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this. non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of information in little discerete packets side by side, building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a box and this box is called memory and experience. now...these bits of information are seperate to each other, laying side by side, un connected and not related. My own style of

thinking seeks to have one

long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken chain. i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman and a dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of information an dlink them together. if i have one chain of memory and it is linear, how do i do this? side links. the chain in my head is one chain but i can fold it over and around and make links to the dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have " resonance" i have made a connections. ..almost instantly. then the conversation turns to hunting dogs, world war 2 and vietnam and

i make another

connection between these three criteria. able to link seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT) once i have done this i suddenly see " you" in front of me, i realise the need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i will....stilll half in the " zone" blurt out my connections. offensive when you hear me say it. fascinating when you understand the theory behind it. it can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to link together instantaneously. Temple Grandin calls it picture thinking...it is more. more complex than this. she uses pictures beause non AS can " see that description" it is more than pictures and it takes a

different mind to

see, to understand. it is difficult to explain. you see awkward stilted answers, i see all the answers all connected. the other option is to engage in polite small talk about the colour of your lovely dress......what wavelength is that colour? what is that similar too. what animal that size is that colour, are they endangered, what country do they live in, are they a protected species, have i eaten one? may sound like..." you look like a hippo in that dress, i have never eaten hippo but i hear they are dangerous animals in africa" 36 m diagnosed AS > RECENT ACTIVITY 2 New

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When I was in high school, Helen Keller jokes were fashionable.Really !Daneka From: Helen Foisy <hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET>Subject: Re:

[aspires-relationsh ips] Tasteless jokes, and

the compulsion to tell themTo: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, 22 May, 2008, 8:27 PM helen said: Because, when I am anxious, as I always tend to be in novel social situations, and trying to make that "connection" as you speak of, above, I can blurt out inappropriate things too. Appropriate elsewhere maybe, to those who know the context, but maybe not where I am at the moment. me here: this is a very interesting choice of words helen. i am going to attempt to expand on this. it wont be easy to follow. i have

for want of a better

word..."dumbed" it down a little and the following is part of a conversation i have had with another AS of list who is..."advanced" in his self awareness. non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be taught and are content with building up little chains of information. letters build words, words build sentences , into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this. non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of information in little discerete packets side by side, building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a box and this box is called memory and experience. now...these bits of information are seperate to each other, laying side by side, un connected and not related. My own style of

thinking seeks to have one

long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken chain. i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman and a dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of information an dlink them together. if i have one chain of memory and it is linear, how do i do this? side links. the chain in my head is one chain but i can fold it over and around and make links to the dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have " resonance" i have made a connections. ..almost instantly. then the conversation turns to hunting dogs, world war 2 and vietnam and

i make another

connection between these three criteria. able to link seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT) once i have done this i suddenly see " you" in front of me, i realise the need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i will....stilll half in the " zone" blurt out my connections. offensive when you hear me say it. fascinating when you understand the theory behind it. it can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to link together instantaneously. Temple Grandin calls it picture thinking...it is more. more complex than this. she uses pictures beause non AS can " see that description" it is more than pictures and it takes a

different mind to

see, to understand. it is difficult to explain. you see awkward stilted answers, i see all the answers all connected. the other option is to engage in polite small talk about the colour of your lovely dress......what wavelength is that colour? what is that similar too. what animal that size is that colour, are they endangered, what country do they live in, are they a protected species, have i eaten one? may sound like..." you look like a hippo in that dress, i have never eaten hippo but i hear they are dangerous animals in africa" 36 m diagnosed AS > RECENT ACTIVITY 2 New

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Yes, the boys tell those too. Adolescent humor must not change much. Here's one

I hadn't heard for 30 years, until last week:

How did HK burn her hand?

Reading the waffle iron.

MCJ

> From: Helen Foisy & lt;hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET & gt;

> Subject: Re: [aspires-relationsh ips] Tasteless jokes, and

> the compulsion to tell them

> To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Thursday, 22 May, 2008, 8:27 PM

>

> helen said:

> & nbsp;Because, when I am anxious, as I always tend

> to & nbsp;

> be in novel social situations, and trying to make that

> " connection " & nbsp;

> as you speak of, above, I can blurt out inappropriate

> things too. & nbsp;

> Appropriate elsewhere maybe, to those who know the context,

> but maybe & nbsp;

> not where I am at the moment.

> & nbsp; me here: this is a very interesting choice of

> words helen. i am going to attempt to expand on this. it

> wont be easy to follow. i have for want of a better

> word... " dumbed " it down a little and the

> following & nbsp; is part of & nbsp;a conversation i

> have had with another AS of list who

> is... " advanced " in his self awareness.

> & nbsp; non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be

> taught and are content with building up little chains of

> information. letters build words, words build sentences ,

> into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.

> non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of

> information in little discerete packets side by side,

> building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and

> knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a

> box and this box is called memory and experience.

> now...these bits of information are seperate to each other,

> laying side by side, un connected and not related.

> & nbsp; My own style of thinking seeks to have one

> long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to

> everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken

> chain. i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician

> and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am

> in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman & nbsp; and a

> dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can

> scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of

> information an dlink them together. if i have one chain of

> memory and it is linear, how do i do this?

> & nbsp; side links. the chain in my head is one chain

> but i can fold it over and around and make links to the

> dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the

> fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have

> " resonance " i have made a connections. ..almost

> instantly. then the conversation turns to hunting dogs,

> world war 2 and vietnam and i make another

> connection between these three criteria. able to link

> seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of

> them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules

> of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating

> to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT) once i have done this i

> suddenly see " you " in front of me, i realise the

> need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i

> will....stilll half in the " zone " blurt out my

> connections. offensive when you hear me say it.

> fascinating when you understand the theory behind it. it

> can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all

> experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to

> link together instantaneously. Temple Grandin calls it

> picture thinking...it is more. more complex than this. she

> uses pictures beause non AS can " see & nbsp; that

> description " it is more than pictures and it takes a

> different mind to

> see, to understand. it is difficult to explain. you see

> awkward stilted answers, i see all the answers all

> connected.

> & nbsp; the other option is to engage in polite small

> talk about the colour of your lovely dress......what

> wavelength is that colour? what is that similar too. what

> animal that size is that colour, are they endangered, what

> country do they live in, are they a protected species, have

> i eaten one?

> & nbsp; may sound like... " you look like a hippo

> in that dress, i have never eaten hippo but i hear they are

> dangerous animals in africa "

> & nbsp; 36 m diagnosed AS

> & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

>

> & gt; RECENT ACTIVITY & nbsp;2 New

> MembersVisit Your Group Yahoo! Health Asthma Triggers

> How you can identify them. Meditation and

> Lovingkindness A Yahoo! Group to share and learn.

> Healthy Living Learn to live life to the fullest on

> Yahoo! Groups.

> . & nbsp;

>

> Sent from & nbsp;Yahoo! Mail. & nbsp;

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Yes, the boys tell those too. Adolescent humor must not change much. Here's one

I hadn't heard for 30 years, until last week:

How did HK burn her hand?

Reading the waffle iron.

MCJ

> From: Helen Foisy & lt;hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET & gt;

> Subject: Re: [aspires-relationsh ips] Tasteless jokes, and

> the compulsion to tell them

> To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Thursday, 22 May, 2008, 8:27 PM

>

> helen said:

> & nbsp;Because, when I am anxious, as I always tend

> to & nbsp;

> be in novel social situations, and trying to make that

> " connection " & nbsp;

> as you speak of, above, I can blurt out inappropriate

> things too. & nbsp;

> Appropriate elsewhere maybe, to those who know the context,

> but maybe & nbsp;

> not where I am at the moment.

> & nbsp; me here: this is a very interesting choice of

> words helen. i am going to attempt to expand on this. it

> wont be easy to follow. i have for want of a better

> word... " dumbed " it down a little and the

> following & nbsp; is part of & nbsp;a conversation i

> have had with another AS of list who

> is... " advanced " in his self awareness.

> & nbsp; non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be

> taught and are content with building up little chains of

> information. letters build words, words build sentences ,

> into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.

> non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of

> information in little discerete packets side by side,

> building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and

> knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a

> box and this box is called memory and experience.

> now...these bits of information are seperate to each other,

> laying side by side, un connected and not related.

> & nbsp; My own style of thinking seeks to have one

> long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to

> everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken

> chain. i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician

> and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am

> in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman & nbsp; and a

> dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can

> scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of

> information an dlink them together. if i have one chain of

> memory and it is linear, how do i do this?

> & nbsp; side links. the chain in my head is one chain

> but i can fold it over and around and make links to the

> dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the

> fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have

> " resonance " i have made a connections. ..almost

> instantly. then the conversation turns to hunting dogs,

> world war 2 and vietnam and i make another

> connection between these three criteria. able to link

> seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of

> them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules

> of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating

> to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT) once i have done this i

> suddenly see " you " in front of me, i realise the

> need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i

> will....stilll half in the " zone " blurt out my

> connections. offensive when you hear me say it.

> fascinating when you understand the theory behind it. it

> can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all

> experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to

> link together instantaneously. Temple Grandin calls it

> picture thinking...it is more. more complex than this. she

> uses pictures beause non AS can " see & nbsp; that

> description " it is more than pictures and it takes a

> different mind to

> see, to understand. it is difficult to explain. you see

> awkward stilted answers, i see all the answers all

> connected.

> & nbsp; the other option is to engage in polite small

> talk about the colour of your lovely dress......what

> wavelength is that colour? what is that similar too. what

> animal that size is that colour, are they endangered, what

> country do they live in, are they a protected species, have

> i eaten one?

> & nbsp; may sound like... " you look like a hippo

> in that dress, i have never eaten hippo but i hear they are

> dangerous animals in africa "

> & nbsp; 36 m diagnosed AS

> & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

>

> & gt; RECENT ACTIVITY & nbsp;2 New

> MembersVisit Your Group Yahoo! Health Asthma Triggers

> How you can identify them. Meditation and

> Lovingkindness A Yahoo! Group to share and learn.

> Healthy Living Learn to live life to the fullest on

> Yahoo! Groups.

> . & nbsp;

>

> Sent from & nbsp;Yahoo! Mail. & nbsp;

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Subject: Re: Tasteless jokes, and the compulsion to tell themTo: aspires-relationships Date: Friday, 23 May, 2008, 7:28 PM

Thanks for such a thoughtful answer to the question. I've been thinking about it a lot since reading it. I'm swamped at the moment with a remodeling chore, but I just wanted to hop on and say thanks. Also, I inserted a question or two below.--

non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be taught and are content with building up little chains of information.

letters build words, words build sentences , into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.

non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of information in little discerete packets side by side, building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a box and this box is called memory and experience.

now...these bits of information are seperate to each other, laying side by side, un connected and not related.

Daneka here: not in my own case, unless I don't understand fully what you're saying. Everything is connected and related, but not sequencially.

me here: yes daneeka you employ words , made of individual letters or words you have many collections of memories, short and medium linkages. but you would never have a full lengthlinkages of all your experiences available at will to recall from, in a connected linear fashion.

My own style of thinking seeks to have one long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken chain.

i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman and a dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of information an dlink them together.

if i have one chain of memory and it is linear, how do i do this?

side links.

the chain in my head is one chain but i can fold it over and around and make links to the dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have " resonance" i have made a connections. ..almost instantly.

Daneka: reminds of the "tesseract" in a Wrinkle in Time

me here: dont know it, can you expand?

then the conversation turns to hunting dogs, world war 2 and vietnam and i make another connection between these three criteria.

Daneka: Many have said that they tell inappropriate jokes repeatedly. Wouldn't a punch in the nose a few years back (sorry again Ian) become one of the links in the chain, a memory, a data point, to be brought forth the next time you're about to tell the same joke? Wouldn't the context come with it?

me here: yes.....and no.

people will learn but if you fall of a horse you dont walk home, you get back on dont you?

able to link seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT)

Daneka: This I understand very well. If my husband is asked a question, he works very hard to give an honest answer and forgets where he is. So, when the husband of his new research assistant asked how his wife was working out, he gave a thoughtful and full report - sadly, negative and he had never said this information earlier to her. In addition to social etiquette, he will overstep boundaries on privacy, and will say things that he shouldn't about people who spoke to him in confidence. He feels terrible afterwards. Are you saying that the mental exertion to come up with the answer - evaluating the entire chain - leaves no room for "context?" I don't mean tiring, just intense.

once i have done this i suddenly see " you" in front of me, i realise the need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i will....stilll half in the " zone" blurt out my connections.

Daneka here: But wouldn't past experience come with it? Even if the past connection were: blurting out my "resonance" before has gotten me in trouble.

me here: it does daneeka, it does....but it doesnt either.

you learn to be quiet, withdraw and avoid interaction with others...when forced you revert to talking about what you know about, if forced off track you tend to revert to memory, and blurting out whats on your mind.

offensive when you hear me say it.

fascinating when you understand the theory behind it.

it can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to link together instantaneously.

Daneka: This I'm sure this is also related to AS memory. My husband's memory is amazing. If he read something, he won't forget it - no matter how complex, including footnotes in academic papers. He could also tell you if the author took an inconsistent position two years later. Yet, he forgets everyday things all of the time.

I do need to run. I hope you're up for more of this because I think this explanation unlocks understanding across many different arenas.

Daneka, grateful

36 m diagnosed AS

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Subject: Re: Tasteless jokes, and the compulsion to tell themTo: aspires-relationships Date: Friday, 23 May, 2008, 7:28 PM

Thanks for such a thoughtful answer to the question. I've been thinking about it a lot since reading it. I'm swamped at the moment with a remodeling chore, but I just wanted to hop on and say thanks. Also, I inserted a question or two below.--

non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be taught and are content with building up little chains of information.

letters build words, words build sentences , into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.

non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of information in little discerete packets side by side, building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a box and this box is called memory and experience.

now...these bits of information are seperate to each other, laying side by side, un connected and not related.

Daneka here: not in my own case, unless I don't understand fully what you're saying. Everything is connected and related, but not sequencially.

me here: yes daneeka you employ words , made of individual letters or words you have many collections of memories, short and medium linkages. but you would never have a full lengthlinkages of all your experiences available at will to recall from, in a connected linear fashion.

My own style of thinking seeks to have one long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken chain.

i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman and a dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of information an dlink them together.

if i have one chain of memory and it is linear, how do i do this?

side links.

the chain in my head is one chain but i can fold it over and around and make links to the dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have " resonance" i have made a connections. ..almost instantly.

Daneka: reminds of the "tesseract" in a Wrinkle in Time

me here: dont know it, can you expand?

then the conversation turns to hunting dogs, world war 2 and vietnam and i make another connection between these three criteria.

Daneka: Many have said that they tell inappropriate jokes repeatedly. Wouldn't a punch in the nose a few years back (sorry again Ian) become one of the links in the chain, a memory, a data point, to be brought forth the next time you're about to tell the same joke? Wouldn't the context come with it?

me here: yes.....and no.

people will learn but if you fall of a horse you dont walk home, you get back on dont you?

able to link seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT)

Daneka: This I understand very well. If my husband is asked a question, he works very hard to give an honest answer and forgets where he is. So, when the husband of his new research assistant asked how his wife was working out, he gave a thoughtful and full report - sadly, negative and he had never said this information earlier to her. In addition to social etiquette, he will overstep boundaries on privacy, and will say things that he shouldn't about people who spoke to him in confidence. He feels terrible afterwards. Are you saying that the mental exertion to come up with the answer - evaluating the entire chain - leaves no room for "context?" I don't mean tiring, just intense.

once i have done this i suddenly see " you" in front of me, i realise the need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i will....stilll half in the " zone" blurt out my connections.

Daneka here: But wouldn't past experience come with it? Even if the past connection were: blurting out my "resonance" before has gotten me in trouble.

me here: it does daneeka, it does....but it doesnt either.

you learn to be quiet, withdraw and avoid interaction with others...when forced you revert to talking about what you know about, if forced off track you tend to revert to memory, and blurting out whats on your mind.

offensive when you hear me say it.

fascinating when you understand the theory behind it.

it can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to link together instantaneously.

Daneka: This I'm sure this is also related to AS memory. My husband's memory is amazing. If he read something, he won't forget it - no matter how complex, including footnotes in academic papers. He could also tell you if the author took an inconsistent position two years later. Yet, he forgets everyday things all of the time.

I do need to run. I hope you're up for more of this because I think this explanation unlocks understanding across many different arenas.

Daneka, grateful

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I know i promised, but these made me laugh out loud and I so needed that today... please forgive and understand my NT compulsion to make people laugh!  jkzWe told 'little moron' jokes "North Dakotan Jokes" and some of us are still telling "Blonde Jokes" .    SMART ASS ANSWER #6 -- It was mealtime during a flight on Hooters Airline. "Would you like dinner?" the flight attendant asked , seated in front. "What are my choices?" asked. "Yes or no," she replied. SMART ASS ANSWER #5 -- A flight attendant was stationed at the departure gate to check tickets. As a man approached, she extended her hand for the ticket and he opened his trench coat and flashed her. Without missing a beat, she said, " Sir, I need to see your ticket, not your stub." SMART ASS ANSWER #4 -- A lady was picking through the frozen turkeys at the grocery store but she couldn't find one big enough for her family. She asked a stock boy, "Do these turkeys get any bigger?" The stock boy replied, "No ma'am, they're dead." SMART ASS ANSWER #3 -- The cop got out of his car and the kid who was stopped for speeding rolled down his window. "I've been waiting for you all day," the cop said. The kid replied, "Yeah, well I got here as fast as I could." When the cop finally stopped laughing, he sent the kid on his way without a ticket. SMART ASS ANSWER #2 -- A truck driver was driving along on the freeway. A sign comes up that reads, "Low Bridge Ahead." Before he knows it, the bridge is right ahead of him and he gets stuck under the bridge. Cars are backed up for miles. Finally a police car comes up. The cop gets out of his car and walks to the truck driver, puts his hands on his hips and says, "Got stuck, huh?" The truck driver says, "No, I was delivering this bridge and ran out of gas." SMART ASS ANSWER OF THE YEAR -- A college teacher reminds her class of tomorrow's final exam. "Now class, I won't tolerate any excuses for you not being here tomorrow. I might consider a nuclear attack or a serious personal injury, illness, or a death in your immediate family, but that's it, no other excuses whatsoever!" A smart-ass guy in the back of the room raised his hand and asked, "What would you say if tomorrow I said I was suffering from complete and utter sexual exhaustion?" The entire class is reduced to laughter and snickering. When silence is restored, the teacher smiles knowingly at the student, shakes her head and sweetly says, "Well, I guess you'd have to write the exam with your other hand." Two bonus extras: #1. A blonde goes to the post office to buy stamps for her Christmas cards. She says to the clerk, "May I have 50 Christmas stamps?" The clerk says, "What denomination?" The blonde says, "God help us. Has it come to this? Well, then, give me 6 Catholic, 12 Presbyterian, 10 Lutheran and 22 Baptists." #2. A woman is standing nude looking in the bedroom mirror. She is not happy with what she sees and says to her husband, "I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a compliment." The husband replies, "Your eyesight's damn near perfect." He never heard the shot. Janet, Thanks!  You made me laugh!  My ex did things like that to me, too.  I can relate to the "fork up the nose" idea! I have to admit, though, that plenty of people whom I presumed NT have made remarks that made me want to respond with a similar reply. I used to tell "dead baby jokes" when I was a freshman in college.  They did make the other freshmen laugh pretty hard!  A friend wisely encouraged me to quit, and sometime during my second year in college, I did.  Now, as  mother, I cannot tell them anymore, and can see why my friend told me to quit.  Phew!  Janet Zimmerman <jkzmailTSSMT (DOT) NET> wrote:YADA, YADA, YADA...  I am now remembering some times when my AS husband made some really bad jokes at my expense and now , thanks to this thread, I am understanding some of the mechanisms behind his remarks. Once we had company for dinner and he announced with great glee as we were being seated at the table, that everything I cooked was either cold or burnt.   He laughed and was so tickled with himself... all the rest of us were horrified.  this was one of those 'fork up the nose' moments, for sure.   He was so amused even though no one else was.. now I get it.. just don't ask me to explain. jkz--- On Thu, 22/5/08, Helen Foisy <hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET> wrote:From: Helen Foisy <hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET>Subject: Re: Tasteless jokes, and the compulsion to tell themTo: aspires-relationships Date: Thursday, 22 May, 2008, 8:27 PMhelen said: Because, when I am anxious, as I always tend to be in novel social situations, and trying to make that "connection" as you speak of, above, I can blurt out inappropriate things too. Appropriate elsewhere maybe, to those who know the context, but maybe not where I am at the moment. me here: this is a very interesting choice of words helen.i am going to attempt to expand on this.it wont be easy to follow.i have for want of a better word..."dumbed" it down a little and the following  is part of  a conversation i have had with another AS of list who is..."advanced" in his self awareness. non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be taught and are content with building up little chains of information.letters build words, words build sentences , into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of information in little discerete packets side by side, building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a box and this box is called memory and experience.now...these bits of information are seperate to each other, laying side by side, un connected and not related. My own style of thinking seeks to have one long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken chain.i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman  and a dietician...it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of information an dlink them together.if i have one chain of memory and it is linear, how do i do this? side links.the chain in my head is one chain but i can fold it over and around and make links to the dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have " resonance" i have made a connections...almost instantly.then the conversation turns to hunting dogs, world war 2 and vietnam and i make another connection between these three criteria.able to link seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT)once i have done this i suddenly see " you" in front of me, i realise the need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i will....stilll half in the " zone" blurt out my connections.offensive when you hear me say it.fascinating when you understand the theory behind it.it can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to link together instantaneously.Temple Grandin calls it picture thinking...it is more.more complex than this. she uses pictures beause non AS can " see  that description"it is more than pictures and it takes a different mind to see, to understand.it is difficult to explain. you see awkward stilted answers, i see all the answers all connected. the other option is to engage in polite small talk about the colour of your lovely dress......what wavelength is that colour?what is that similar too. what animal that size is that colour, are they endangered, what country do they live in, are they a protected species, have i eaten one? may sound like..." you look like a hippo in that dress, i have never eaten hippo but i hear they are dangerous animals in africa"  36 m diagnosed AS   >RECENT ACTIVITY 2New MembersVisit Your GroupYahoo! 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I know i promised, but these made me laugh out loud and I so needed that today... please forgive and understand my NT compulsion to make people laugh!  jkzWe told 'little moron' jokes "North Dakotan Jokes" and some of us are still telling "Blonde Jokes" .    SMART ASS ANSWER #6 -- It was mealtime during a flight on Hooters Airline. "Would you like dinner?" the flight attendant asked , seated in front. "What are my choices?" asked. "Yes or no," she replied. SMART ASS ANSWER #5 -- A flight attendant was stationed at the departure gate to check tickets. As a man approached, she extended her hand for the ticket and he opened his trench coat and flashed her. Without missing a beat, she said, " Sir, I need to see your ticket, not your stub." SMART ASS ANSWER #4 -- A lady was picking through the frozen turkeys at the grocery store but she couldn't find one big enough for her family. She asked a stock boy, "Do these turkeys get any bigger?" The stock boy replied, "No ma'am, they're dead." SMART ASS ANSWER #3 -- The cop got out of his car and the kid who was stopped for speeding rolled down his window. "I've been waiting for you all day," the cop said. The kid replied, "Yeah, well I got here as fast as I could." When the cop finally stopped laughing, he sent the kid on his way without a ticket. SMART ASS ANSWER #2 -- A truck driver was driving along on the freeway. A sign comes up that reads, "Low Bridge Ahead." Before he knows it, the bridge is right ahead of him and he gets stuck under the bridge. Cars are backed up for miles. Finally a police car comes up. The cop gets out of his car and walks to the truck driver, puts his hands on his hips and says, "Got stuck, huh?" The truck driver says, "No, I was delivering this bridge and ran out of gas." SMART ASS ANSWER OF THE YEAR -- A college teacher reminds her class of tomorrow's final exam. "Now class, I won't tolerate any excuses for you not being here tomorrow. I might consider a nuclear attack or a serious personal injury, illness, or a death in your immediate family, but that's it, no other excuses whatsoever!" A smart-ass guy in the back of the room raised his hand and asked, "What would you say if tomorrow I said I was suffering from complete and utter sexual exhaustion?" The entire class is reduced to laughter and snickering. When silence is restored, the teacher smiles knowingly at the student, shakes her head and sweetly says, "Well, I guess you'd have to write the exam with your other hand." Two bonus extras: #1. A blonde goes to the post office to buy stamps for her Christmas cards. She says to the clerk, "May I have 50 Christmas stamps?" The clerk says, "What denomination?" The blonde says, "God help us. Has it come to this? Well, then, give me 6 Catholic, 12 Presbyterian, 10 Lutheran and 22 Baptists." #2. A woman is standing nude looking in the bedroom mirror. She is not happy with what she sees and says to her husband, "I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a compliment." The husband replies, "Your eyesight's damn near perfect." He never heard the shot. Janet, Thanks!  You made me laugh!  My ex did things like that to me, too.  I can relate to the "fork up the nose" idea! I have to admit, though, that plenty of people whom I presumed NT have made remarks that made me want to respond with a similar reply. I used to tell "dead baby jokes" when I was a freshman in college.  They did make the other freshmen laugh pretty hard!  A friend wisely encouraged me to quit, and sometime during my second year in college, I did.  Now, as  mother, I cannot tell them anymore, and can see why my friend told me to quit.  Phew!  Janet Zimmerman <jkzmailTSSMT (DOT) NET> wrote:YADA, YADA, YADA...  I am now remembering some times when my AS husband made some really bad jokes at my expense and now , thanks to this thread, I am understanding some of the mechanisms behind his remarks. Once we had company for dinner and he announced with great glee as we were being seated at the table, that everything I cooked was either cold or burnt.   He laughed and was so tickled with himself... all the rest of us were horrified.  this was one of those 'fork up the nose' moments, for sure.   He was so amused even though no one else was.. now I get it.. just don't ask me to explain. jkz--- On Thu, 22/5/08, Helen Foisy <hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET> wrote:From: Helen Foisy <hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET>Subject: Re: Tasteless jokes, and the compulsion to tell themTo: aspires-relationships Date: Thursday, 22 May, 2008, 8:27 PMhelen said: Because, when I am anxious, as I always tend to be in novel social situations, and trying to make that "connection" as you speak of, above, I can blurt out inappropriate things too. Appropriate elsewhere maybe, to those who know the context, but maybe not where I am at the moment. me here: this is a very interesting choice of words helen.i am going to attempt to expand on this.it wont be easy to follow.i have for want of a better word..."dumbed" it down a little and the following  is part of  a conversation i have had with another AS of list who is..."advanced" in his self awareness. non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be taught and are content with building up little chains of information.letters build words, words build sentences , into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of information in little discerete packets side by side, building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a box and this box is called memory and experience.now...these bits of information are seperate to each other, laying side by side, un connected and not related. My own style of thinking seeks to have one long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken chain.i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman  and a dietician...it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of information an dlink them together.if i have one chain of memory and it is linear, how do i do this? side links.the chain in my head is one chain but i can fold it over and around and make links to the dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have " resonance" i have made a connections...almost instantly.then the conversation turns to hunting dogs, world war 2 and vietnam and i make another connection between these three criteria.able to link seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT)once i have done this i suddenly see " you" in front of me, i realise the need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i will....stilll half in the " zone" blurt out my connections.offensive when you hear me say it.fascinating when you understand the theory behind it.it can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to link together instantaneously.Temple Grandin calls it picture thinking...it is more.more complex than this. she uses pictures beause non AS can " see  that description"it is more than pictures and it takes a different mind to see, to understand.it is difficult to explain. you see awkward stilted answers, i see all the answers all connected. the other option is to engage in polite small talk about the colour of your lovely dress......what wavelength is that colour?what is that similar too. what animal that size is that colour, are they endangered, what country do they live in, are they a protected species, have i eaten one? may sound like..." you look like a hippo in that dress, i have never eaten hippo but i hear they are dangerous animals in africa"  36 m diagnosed AS   >RECENT ACTIVITY 2New MembersVisit Your GroupYahoo! 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> > From: Helen Foisy hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET & gt;

> > Subject: Re: [aspires-relationsh ips] Tasteless jokes, and

> > the compulsion to tell them

> > To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Thursday, 22 May, 2008, 8:27 PM

> >

> > helen said:

> > & nbsp;Because, when I am anxious, as I always tend

> > to & nbsp;

> > be in novel social situations, and trying to make that

> > " connection " & nbsp;

> > as you speak of, above, I can blurt out inappropriate

> > things too. & nbsp;

> > Appropriate elsewhere maybe, to those who know the context,

> > but maybe & nbsp;

> > not where I am at the moment.

> > & nbsp; me here: this is a very interesting choice of

> > words helen. i am going to attempt to expand on this. it

> > wont be easy to follow. i have for want of a better

> > word... " dumbed " it down a little and the

> > following & nbsp; is part of & nbsp;a conversation i

> > have had with another AS of list who

> > is... " advanced " in his self awareness.

> > & nbsp; non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be

> > taught and are content with building up little chains of

> > information. letters build words, words build sentences ,

> > into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.

> > non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of

> > information in little discerete packets side by side,

> > building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and

> > knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a

> > box and this box is called memory and experience.

> > now...these bits of information are seperate to each other,

> > laying side by side, un connected and not related.

> > & nbsp; My own style of thinking seeks to have one

> > long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to

> > everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken

> > chain. i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician

> > and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am

> > in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman & nbsp; and a

> > dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can

> > scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of

> > information an dlink them together. if i have one chain of

> > memory and it is linear, how do i do this?

> > & nbsp; side links. the chain in my head is one chain

> > but i can fold it over and around and make links to the

> > dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the

> > fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have

> > " resonance " i have made a connections. ..almost

> > instantly. then the conversation turns to hunting dogs,

> > world war 2 and vietnam and i make another

> > connection between these three criteria. able to link

> > seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of

> > them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules

> > of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating

> > to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT) once i have done this i

> > suddenly see " you " in front of me, i realise the

> > need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i

> > will....stilll half in the " zone " blurt out my

> > connections. offensive when you hear me say it.

> > fascinating when you understand the theory behind it. it

> > can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all

> > experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to

> > link together instantaneously. Temple Grandin calls it

> > picture thinking...it is more. more complex than this. she

> > uses pictures beause non AS can " see & nbsp; that

> > description " it is more than pictures and it takes a

> > different mind to

> > see, to understand. it is difficult to explain. you see

> > awkward stilted answers, i see all the answers all

> > connected.

> > & nbsp; the other option is to engage in polite small

> > talk about the colour of your lovely dress......what

> > wavelength is that colour? what is that similar too. what

> > animal that size is that colour, are they endangered, what

> > country do they live in, are they a protected species, have

> > i eaten one?

> > & nbsp; may sound like... " you look like a hippo

> > in that dress, i have never eaten hippo but i hear they are

> > dangerous animals in africa "

> > & nbsp; 36 m diagnosed AS

> > & nbsp;

> > & nbsp;

> > & nbsp;

> >

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> > From: Helen Foisy hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET & gt;

> > Subject: Re: [aspires-relationsh ips] Tasteless jokes, and

> > the compulsion to tell them

> > To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Thursday, 22 May, 2008, 8:27 PM

> >

> > helen said:

> > & nbsp;Because, when I am anxious, as I always tend

> > to & nbsp;

> > be in novel social situations, and trying to make that

> > " connection " & nbsp;

> > as you speak of, above, I can blurt out inappropriate

> > things too. & nbsp;

> > Appropriate elsewhere maybe, to those who know the context,

> > but maybe & nbsp;

> > not where I am at the moment.

> > & nbsp; me here: this is a very interesting choice of

> > words helen. i am going to attempt to expand on this. it

> > wont be easy to follow. i have for want of a better

> > word... " dumbed " it down a little and the

> > following & nbsp; is part of & nbsp;a conversation i

> > have had with another AS of list who

> > is... " advanced " in his self awareness.

> > & nbsp; non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be

> > taught and are content with building up little chains of

> > information. letters build words, words build sentences ,

> > into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.

> > non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of

> > information in little discerete packets side by side,

> > building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and

> > knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a

> > box and this box is called memory and experience.

> > now...these bits of information are seperate to each other,

> > laying side by side, un connected and not related.

> > & nbsp; My own style of thinking seeks to have one

> > long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to

> > everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken

> > chain. i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician

> > and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am

> > in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman & nbsp; and a

> > dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can

> > scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of

> > information an dlink them together. if i have one chain of

> > memory and it is linear, how do i do this?

> > & nbsp; side links. the chain in my head is one chain

> > but i can fold it over and around and make links to the

> > dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the

> > fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have

> > " resonance " i have made a connections. ..almost

> > instantly. then the conversation turns to hunting dogs,

> > world war 2 and vietnam and i make another

> > connection between these three criteria. able to link

> > seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of

> > them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules

> > of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating

> > to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT) once i have done this i

> > suddenly see " you " in front of me, i realise the

> > need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i

> > will....stilll half in the " zone " blurt out my

> > connections. offensive when you hear me say it.

> > fascinating when you understand the theory behind it. it

> > can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all

> > experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to

> > link together instantaneously. Temple Grandin calls it

> > picture thinking...it is more. more complex than this. she

> > uses pictures beause non AS can " see & nbsp; that

> > description " it is more than pictures and it takes a

> > different mind to

> > see, to understand. it is difficult to explain. you see

> > awkward stilted answers, i see all the answers all

> > connected.

> > & nbsp; the other option is to engage in polite small

> > talk about the colour of your lovely dress......what

> > wavelength is that colour? what is that similar too. what

> > animal that size is that colour, are they endangered, what

> > country do they live in, are they a protected species, have

> > i eaten one?

> > & nbsp; may sound like... " you look like a hippo

> > in that dress, i have never eaten hippo but i hear they are

> > dangerous animals in africa "

> > & nbsp; 36 m diagnosed AS

> > & nbsp;

> > & nbsp;

> > & nbsp;

> >

> > & gt; RECENT ACTIVITY & nbsp;2 New

> > MembersVisit Your Group Yahoo! Health Asthma Triggers

> > How you can identify them. Meditation and

> > Lovingkindness A Yahoo! Group to share and learn.

> > Healthy Living Learn to live life to the fullest on

> > Yahoo! Groups.

> > . & nbsp;

> >

> > Sent from & nbsp;Yahoo! Mail. & nbsp;

> > A Smarter Email.

>

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omg, I do remember those too... Times have changed!   Here's one I used to tell a lot, warning , there is a series of these :   what do you call a cow with 3 legs.... Lean beef, one more, what do you call a cow with no legs... ground beef.  har, har, har.  I lied, again,,,  What do you put on a sick pig ????   Oink-ment... if he doesn't get better, what do you do......give him some pig-acillin.  bwaaa- haaa-haaa.   What do you say to a one-legged hitchhiker? ..... Hop in!    What do you say to a hitchhiker with no arms?..... Which way are you going?   this is truly lame, I am MAKING MYSELF LAUGH.   oh dear.  hap-hap-happy day to all.   jkzWhen I was in high school, Helen Keller jokes were fashionable.Really !Daneka--- On Fri, 5/23/08, Princess  <creativelywired> wrote:From: Princess <creativelywired>Subject: Re: Tasteless jokes, and the compulsion to tell themTo: aspires-relationships Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 3:25 AMJanet, Thanks!  You made me laugh!  My ex did things like that to me, too.  I can relate to the "fork up the nose" idea! I have to admit, though, that plenty of people whom I presumed NT have made remarks that made me want to respond with a similar reply. I used to tell "dead baby jokes" when I was a freshman in college.  They did make the other freshmen laugh pretty hard!  A friend wisely encouraged me to quit, and sometime during my second year in college, I did.  Now, as  mother, I cannot tell them anymore, and can see why my friend told me to quit.  Phew!  Janet Zimmerman <jkzmailTSSMT (DOT) NET> wrote:YADA, YADA, YADA...  I am now remembering some times when my AS husband made some really bad jokes at my expense and now , thanks to this thread, I am understanding some of the mechanisms behind his remarks. Once we had company for dinner and he announced with great glee as we were being seated at the table, that everything I cooked was either cold or burnt.   He laughed and was so tickled with himself... all the rest of us were horrified.  this was one of those 'fork up the nose' moments, for sure.   He was so amused even though no one else was.. now I get it.. just don't ask me to explain. jkz--- On Thu, 22/5/08, Helen Foisy <hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET> wrote:From: Helen Foisy <hfoisySASKTEL (DOT) NET>Subject: Re: [aspires-relationsh ips] Tasteless jokes, and the compulsion to tell themTo: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, 22 May, 2008, 8:27 PMhelen said: Because, when I am anxious, as I always tend to be in novel social situations, and trying to make that "connection" as you speak of, above, I can blurt out inappropriate things too. Appropriate elsewhere maybe, to those who know the context, but maybe not where I am at the moment. me here: this is a very interesting choice of words helen.i am going to attempt to expand on this.it wont be easy to follow.i have for want of a better word..."dumbed" it down a little and the following  is part of  a conversation i have had with another AS of list who is..."advanced" in his self awareness. non As or auidotiry-visual thinkers tend to be taught and are content with building up little chains of information.letters build words, words build sentences , into paragrahs, books and stories. we are all taught this.non AS tend to be happy with keeping these small chains of information in little discerete packets side by side, building them up as pieces of accumulated wisdom and knowledge. All these chains of information can be held in a box and this box is called memory and experience.now...these bits of information are seperate to each other, laying side by side, un connected and not related. My own style of thinking seeks to have one long, continuous unbroken chain...eevrthing is linked to everything else in a top to bottom manner a long unbroken chain.i hear a story about a fat woman and a dietician and an irishman in a bar i will link this to the time i am in a bar with a fat woman, an irishman  and a dietician... it doesnt happen often but when it does, i can scroll along this chain and pick up the relevant piece of information an dlink them together.if i have one chain of memory and it is linear, how do i do this? side links.the chain in my head is one chain but i can fold it over and around and make links to the dietician i met in 2007 the irishman i met in 2000 and the fat girl i met in 1988. once thoose links ar made i have " resonance" i have made a connections. ..almost instantly.then the conversation turns to hunting dogs, world war 2 and vietnam and i make another connection between these three criteria.able to link seemingly unrelated events in my memory to make sense of them, rapidly and with no willingness to regard the rules of social ettiquette ( im thinkign hard here, concentrating to do this DO NOT INTERRUPT)once i have done this i suddenly see " you" in front of me, i realise the need to respond to....what is being conversed about and i will....stilll half in the " zone" blurt out my connections.offensive when you hear me say it.fascinating when you understand the theory behind it.it can be described as a 3 dimensional construct of all experiences in my life, knowledge books and movies made to link together instantaneously.Temple Grandin calls it picture thinking...it is more.more complex than this. she uses pictures beause non AS can " see  that description"it is more than pictures and it takes a different mind to see, to understand.it is difficult to explain. you see awkward stilted answers, i see all the answers all connected. the other option is to engage in polite small talk about the colour of your lovely dress......what wavelength is that colour?what is that similar too. what animal that size is that colour, are they endangered, what country do they live in, are they a protected species, have i eaten one? may sound like..." you look like a hippo in that dress, i have never eaten hippo but i hear they are dangerous animals in africa"  36 m diagnosed AS   >RECENT ACTIVITY 2New MembersVisit Your GroupYahoo! 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