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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 Welcome Zuze, I too have been told that i have a " touch " of FMS. lol, pretty silly if you ask me. I think i would give up and die if i had a full dose:) zuzandzen@... wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I just joined the group and wanted to say hello. I was diagnosed with > FMS > about two years ago. Actually my Doc said she thought I had a " touch " > of > Fibromyalgia. If being in pain so bad I can't move my arms and legs > most > days is a touch, I feel horrible for those with serious cases. > > I am happy to have found some groups for support and info about FMS. > I am > looking forward to gathering as much information as I can, and am > really > looking forward to talking to people who can relate to what my life is > like. > Most of my friends and family think I am a hypochondriac because I > " look " > well. > > I will be spending the next few days reading through the archive > messages and > catching myself up to speed on some of the topics posted here. > > Looking forward to meeting you all, > Zuze > > > Are you getting paid to read your egroup messages? Why not? > eGroups Sponsor [Get 3 CDs for ONLY $9.99!] Get 3 CDs for ONLY $9.99! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Welcome, Beth. It's good to see you here =) Sheila > Just a quick intro-- > > I am Beth on, wife, homeschooling mom to 4, soap, etc., maker from north central Alabama. I am here primarily to learn from professionals, as I want the products I make to be the best I can possibly make. I'll be mostly lurking for a while, and browsing the archives before I ask a lot of questions.... > > thanks for having me... > > Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I guess I will introduce myself. My Name is Greg. I have be diagnosed with Pure O OCD. I started seeing Vijay Shankar, here in Portland, last June. I had just come off a year long taper from Valium and Prozac and had been in the typical freudian therapy for years. Not suprisingly none of that crap did any good. I had started researching OCD treatment and went to Vijay to help with the Foa style of CBT. Vijay complied and we began working on scripts and basically put myself through mental torture doing this type of therapy. I believe this actually made things worse. My mind in it's infinate wisdom created so many new relational frames that it now believes thing I don't think it did before. After several months of CBT, Vijay suggested the ACT approach. I agreed to try it, and at his suggestion my wife and I set up a weekend session with him. He has been getting very good results with putting some of his clients through the weekend sessions instead of doing the weekly therapy. It was very intense and educational. It did some good, but you have to understand those damn drugs messed me up worse than I was before I started taking them. I knew Dr. ' book was coming out and Vijay told me not to buy it until after our weekend. The book covers most of the stuff we covered over the weekend, ( I almost used the " but " word there) AND it is very helpful for practicing. I am about half way through and it is amazing how much of my life I spend in the past of the future. I would like to thank Dr. for his work and think that he is dead on in his approch. One question I have for Dr. if he happens to read this. In the first part of the book you say if something comes up you should notice it and even move toward it. (something like that) but isn't that fusion? How can I not be fused to a thought and activly think about it? This is kind of confusing to me because my mind keeps telling me that when one of these thoughts come up I should enter into it and even try to make it worse, because of the previous CBT work. Or is that just another thought and should I just notice it and thank my mind for dong it's job to help me figure out the solution to the mess it thinks it's in? Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 One question I have for Dr. if he happens to read this. In the first part of the book you say if something comes up you should notice it and even move toward it. (something like that) but isn't that fusion? How can I not be fused to a thought and activly think about it? Call me Steve. I wouldn't say to actively think about it. I mean just to allow yourself to notice what comes up as a thought. To hold it gently. Then to do what works. After all a thought always means at least this: it means your history and the current situation has set the occasion for a thought just like that. Hmm. Interesting. (Isn't it?) In this area your mind is not your friend, AND it is not your enemy either. Imagine a universe in which thinking a thought as a thought is never harmful. Imagine a universe in which feeling a feeling as a feeling is always safe. Imagine a universe in which sensing a sensation as a sensation never goes beyond your capacity. Imagine a universe in which remembering a memory as a memory is welcomed unconditionally. Fusion is a process of entanglement. It is taking thoughts to be what they say they are. That might work if you can pick and choose thoughts, but you are a historical being -- every goofball thought you can imagine will rumble around basically forever in our minds. The problem with not thinking a thought in order to avoid fusion is that then you are already fused. Suppose the thought is "I'm bad." If you agree to avoid it, you confirm it (otherwise, why avoid it?). See the paradox? So I did not mean to approach it in order to figure it out. I meant to embrace each moment as a legitimate moment in your life. Then to focus on what takes you in the direction you want to go with all the chatter if there is chatter. This is kind of confusing to me because my mind keeps telling me that when one of these thoughts come up I should enter into it and even try to make it worse, because of the previous CBT work. Or is that just another thought and should I just notice it and thank my mind for dong it's job to help me figure out the solution to the mess it thinks it's in? Now you have the spirit. Good catch! Now, can we carry even that thought forward into a life worth living? - S Steve C. Foundation Professor Department of Psychology /298 University of Nevada Reno, NV 89557-0062 Office: x2005 (don’t leave messages there … I mostly work from home, esp. now that I have a new baby. Email me instead.) Email: hayes@... Context Press (you can use this for messages as well): Fax: Home: Home fax: Use the Context Press line. It will automatically detect incoming faxes. Cell (please use sparingly): Relevant websites: www.contextualpsychology.org (this one will soon subsume the ACT and RFT websites below; if you want my vita, or publications from me, or PowerPoint slides, etc etc please carefully check out this site first. Go to my blog and to the publications list etc. Given the flow of emails, I need all the help I can get. Thanks in advance.) www.acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy.com www.relationalframetheory.com www.contextpress.com www.unr.edu/psych then click on faculty pages From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of gregpeerySent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:44 AMTo: ACT_for_the_Public Subject: Intro I guess I will introduce myself. My Name is Greg. I have be diagnosed with Pure O OCD. I started seeing Vijay Shankar, here in Portland, last June. I had just come off a year long taper from Valium and Prozac and had been in the typical freudian therapy for years. Not suprisingly none of that crap did any good. I had started researching OCD treatment and went to Vijay to help with the Foa style of CBT. Vijay complied and we began working on scripts and basically put myself through mental torture doing this type of therapy. I believe this actually made things worse. My mind in it's infinate wisdom created so many new relational frames that it now believes thing I don't think it did before. After several months of CBT, Vijay suggested the ACT approach. I agreed to try it, and at his suggestion my wife and I set up a weekend session with him. He has been getting very good results with putting some of his clients through the weekend sessions instead of doing the weekly therapy. It was very intense and educational. It did some good, but you have to understand those damn drugs messed me up worse than I was before I started taking them. I knew Dr. ' book was coming out and Vijay told me not to buy it until after our weekend. The book covers most of the stuff we covered over the weekend, ( I almost used the "but" word there) AND it is very helpful for practicing. I am about half way through and it is amazing how much of my life I spend in the past of the future. I would like to thank Dr. for his work and think that he is dead on in his approch.One question I have for Dr. if he happens to read this. In the first part of the book you say if something comes up you should notice it and even move toward it. (something like that) but isn't that fusion? How can I not be fused to a thought and activly think about it? This is kind of confusing to me because my mind keeps telling me that when one of these thoughts come up I should enter into it and even try to make it worse, because of the previous CBT work. Or is that just another thought and should I just notice it and thank my mind for dong it's job to help me figure out the solution to the mess it thinks it's in?Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Nice work Greg. Vijay Intro >> >> >> I guess I will introduce myself. My Name is Greg. I have be > diagnosed >> with Pure O OCD. I started seeing Vijay Shankar, here in Portland, >> last June. I had just come off a year long taper from Valium and >> Prozac and had been in the typical freudian therapy for years. Not >> suprisingly none of that crap did any good. >> >> I had started researching OCD treatment and went to Vijay to help >> with the Foa style of CBT. Vijay complied and we began working on >> scripts and basically put myself through mental torture doing this >> type of therapy. I believe this actually made things worse. My > mind >> in it's infinate wisdom created so many new relational frames that > it >> now believes thing I don't think it did before. >> >> After several months of CBT, Vijay suggested the ACT approach. I >> agreed to try it, and at his suggestion my wife and I set up a >> weekend session with him. He has been getting very good results > with >> putting some of his clients through the weekend sessions instead > of >> doing the weekly therapy. It was very intense and educational. It > did >> some good, but you have to understand those damn drugs messed me > up >> worse than I was before I started taking them. I knew Dr. ' > book >> was coming out and Vijay told me not to buy it until after our >> weekend. >> >> The book covers most of the stuff we covered over the weekend, ( I >> almost used the " but " word there) AND it is very helpful for >> practicing. I am about half way through and it is amazing how much > of >> my life I spend in the past of the future. >> >> I would like to thank Dr. for his work and think that he is >> dead on in his approch. >> >> One question I have for Dr. if he happens to read this. In > the >> first part of the book you say if something comes up you should >> notice it and even move toward it. (something like that) but isn't >> that fusion? How can I not be fused to a thought and activly think >> about it? This is kind of confusing to me because my mind keeps >> telling me that when one of these thoughts come up I should enter >> into it and even try to make it worse, because of the previous CBT >> work. Or is that just another thought and should I just notice it > and >> thank my mind for dong it's job to help me figure out the solution > to >> the mess it thinks it's in? >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> >> >> * Visit your group " ACT_for_the_Public >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public> " on the web. >> >> >> * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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