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I believe this is exactly what ACT is about - except

that the values are not those dictated by society but

our own sense of what's important and how we want to

live our lives. We have lots of societal conditioning

that says we should act certain ways and much conflict

arises. However, identifying your OWN values and what

you want your life to be about is extremely powerful.

You might want to look at your own example - were you

there for your parents because you wanted to avoid

regret later or were you present because if you could

have the world any way you wanted, you would have

close relationships with them? There is a difference.

For me, it has been clarification of my values and

choosing actions in line with those values that has

transformed my life. Do I step off the path? Yes.

And now I know how to get back on.

--- lostnightmusic wrote:

> Still thinking about Values and thinking about how

> I've acted in the

> past. I'm remembering times when my VALUES were

> obvious to me. For

> instance, in the months before my father died, I had

> a very clear

> sense that I wanted to be a good son -- I wanted to

> be there for my

> parents because I knew that if I wasn't there I

> would regret it later

> (even though I was full of conflict about both of my

> parents and it

> was a miserable and painful time for me). I kept

> that value before

> me and I acted accordingly -- sometimes in spite of

> how I was

> feeling, sometimes in contradiction to how I was

> feeling, sometimes

> in alignment with my feelings, etc. My thoughts and

> feelings were

> always present but they never stopped me from acting

> according to my

> values. Is that what ACT is all about?

>

> If so, isn't it in some ways a very traditional

> (i.e. old-fashioned)

> idea about how human beings should live their lives?

> I'm thinking of

> the old 19th century view of character -- where

> people did what they

> believed was right or what they believed was good or

> heroic -- often

> in spite of what they were thinking or feeling.

>

> I don't know if this makes any sense. I'm just

> interested in hearing

> what other people think and how they're doing with

> values in their

> own lives.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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This reminds me of something I either read in " The Road Less Traveled " ,

or

in " The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People " . I think it was in the

former book.

It was about not living your life in avoidance of pain. I.E., being

willing to

experience the little pain now in order to not have the big pain later.

Recognizing that if you spend your life running away from all pain, you

will end up suffering greater pain instead.

Ex: You can avoid doing that book report now, to avoid the pain of

doing it, but

it will end up becoming a big, high-stress pain when the due date is

really

close!

The book talked about how if people don't recognize the necessity of the

little pain now, and instead run from it, it totally screws them up

later in

life. I.E., that's it's a very necessary lesson for kids to learn.

> I believe this is exactly what ACT is about - except

> that the values are not those dictated by society but

> our own sense of what's important and how we want to

> live our lives.  We have lots of societal conditioning

> that says we should act certain ways and much conflict

> arises.  However, identifying your OWN values and what

> you want your life to be about is extremely powerful.

> You might want to look at your own example - were you

> there for your parents because you wanted to avoid

> regret later or were you present because if you could

> have the world any way you wanted, you would have

> close relationships with them?  There is a difference.

>

> For me, it has been clarification of my values and

> choosing actions in line with those values that has

> transformed my life. Do I step off the path?  Yes.

> And now I know how to get back on.

>

>

>

> --- lostnightmusic wrote:

>

> > Still thinking about Values and thinking about how

> > I've acted in the

> > past. I'm remembering times when my VALUES were

> > obvious to me. For

> > instance, in the months before my father died, I had

> > a very clear

> > sense that I wanted to be a good son -- I wanted to

> > be there for my

> > parents because I knew that if I wasn't there I

> > would regret it later

> > (even though I was full of conflict about both of my

> > parents and it

> > was a miserable and painful time for me).  I kept

> > that value before

> > me and I acted accordingly -- sometimes in spite of

> > how I was

> > feeling, sometimes in contradiction to how I was

> > feeling, sometimes

> > in alignment with my feelings, etc.  My thoughts and

> > feelings were

> > always present but they never stopped me from acting

> > according to my

> > values. Is that what ACT is all about?

> >

> > If so, isn't it in some ways a very traditional

> > (i.e. old-fashioned)

> > idea about how human beings should live their lives?

> > I'm thinking of

> > the old 19th century view of character -- where

> > people did what they

> > believed was right or what they believed was good or

> > heroic -- often

> > in spite of what they were thinking or feeling.

> >

> > I don't know if this makes any sense. I'm just

> > interested in hearing

> > what other people think and how they're doing with

> > values in their

> > own lives.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Foobar. There was a better phrase for the " not avoiding pain " thing

from " The Road Less Traveled " . Ahah! It was " Delayed Gratification " .

Delaying the gratification of " not writing the book report " so that you

have

the bigger gratification of having the book report done early and the

enjoyment of free time w/o the task hanging over your head.

> I believe this is exactly what ACT is about - except

> that the values are not those dictated by society but

> our own sense of what's important and how we want to

> live our lives.  We have lots of societal conditioning

> that says we should act certain ways and much conflict

> arises.  However, identifying your OWN values and what

> you want your life to be about is extremely powerful.

> You might want to look at your own example - were you

> there for your parents because you wanted to avoid

> regret later or were you present because if you could

> have the world any way you wanted, you would have

> close relationships with them?  There is a difference.

>

> For me, it has been clarification of my values and

> choosing actions in line with those values that has

> transformed my life. Do I step off the path?  Yes.

> And now I know how to get back on.

>

>

>

> --- lostnightmusic wrote:

>

> > Still thinking about Values and thinking about how

> > I've acted in the

> > past. I'm remembering times when my VALUES were

> > obvious to me. For

> > instance, in the months before my father died, I had

> > a very clear

> > sense that I wanted to be a good son -- I wanted to

> > be there for my

> > parents because I knew that if I wasn't there I

> > would regret it later

> > (even though I was full of conflict about both of my

> > parents and it

> > was a miserable and painful time for me).  I kept

> > that value before

> > me and I acted accordingly -- sometimes in spite of

> > how I was

> > feeling, sometimes in contradiction to how I was

> > feeling, sometimes

> > in alignment with my feelings, etc.  My thoughts and

> > feelings were

> > always present but they never stopped me from acting

> > according to my

> > values. Is that what ACT is all about?

> >

> > If so, isn't it in some ways a very traditional

> > (i.e. old-fashioned)

> > idea about how human beings should live their lives?

> > I'm thinking of

> > the old 19th century view of character -- where

> > people did what they

> > believed was right or what they believed was good or

> > heroic -- often

> > in spite of what they were thinking or feeling.

> >

> > I don't know if this makes any sense. I'm just

> > interested in hearing

> > what other people think and how they're doing with

> > values in their

> > own lives.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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