Re: Anxiety Disorder/Panic Attacks....Acceptance of Physical Symptoms...???

[Guest guest]

I had these palpatattions and the best thing is to treat them medically....i had exactly what you described twenty years ago and i tried several mecications until one worked out

Good Luck

ibrahim

Anxiety Disorder/Panic Attacks....Acceptance of Physical Symptoms...???

Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working with it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly what the problem was. December 2007, hit by the first of many debilitating panic attacks.Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty swallowing, difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including skipped beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis of ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia ).Attacks strike at random, without warning and have been classed as 'untriggered' , there does not have to be a preceding event or crisis to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to deal

with the 'physical' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a monster lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I accept the physical symptoms? Any suggestions?Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and find it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this subject.

[Guest guest]

Thanks ibrahim, I have recently started some heart medication and I

am hoping for some positive results from that in the short term.

They may take care of the palpitations. My fear of the other symptoms

is just as high. Gasping for air and feeling I am about to die is not

pleasant. I was hoping at some point to be able to accept these panic

attacks without fear. Incorporating ACT into my life is fine when

not in the middle of a panic attack but it all goes out the window

when it happens and takes me back to square one. Two steps forward,

twenty steps backwards. Thanks again, I appreciate your reply.

>

> I had these palpatattions and the best thing is to treat them

medically....i had exactly what you described twenty years ago and i

tried several mecications until one worked out

>

> Good Luck

> ibrahim

>

>

>

> Anxiety Disorder/Panic

Attacks....Acceptance of Physical Symptoms...???

>

>

> Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working

with

> it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully

> embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.

> August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly

what

> the problem was. December 2007, hit by the first of many

debilitating

> panic attacks.

> Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty

swallowing,

> difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including

skipped

> beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and

> inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms

> include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis of

> ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia ).

> Attacks strike at random, without warning and have been classed

> as 'untriggered' , there does not have to be a preceding event or

crisis

> to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to

deal

> with the 'physical' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a

monster

> lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I

> accept the physical symptoms? Any suggestions?

> Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and

find

> it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of

> recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind and

> Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.

> I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this

subject.

>

[Guest guest]

One way that was effective for gasping for air was to shock my self.....with cold water splashed on my face.....the other techique was to manipulate the vagas nerve in my neck,,,,,,

Good Luck

[ACT_for_the_ Public] Anxiety Disorder/Panic Attacks....Acceptan ce of Physical Symptoms...? ??> > > Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working with > it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully > embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.> August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly what > the problem was.

December 2007, hit by the first of many debilitating > panic attacks.> Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty swallowing, > difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including skipped > beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and > inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms > include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis of > ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia ).> Attacks strike at random, without warning and have been classed > as 'untriggered' , there does not have to be a preceding event or crisis > to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to deal > with the 'physical' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a monster > lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I > accept the physical symptoms? Any

suggestions?> Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and find > it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of > recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind and > Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.> I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this subject.>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I would suggest finding a couple of books on anxiety. Like Anxiety Workbook. That will give you an explanation of the symptoms and let you know that they are not dangerous. I have known this forever but my mind doesn't seem to care. I think after you see an explanation then ACT helps us just weather the storm but you have to have an understand of the specific symptoms first. Weekes "Hope and Help for you Nerves" is really good too.

Robyn

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Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working with it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly what the problem was. December 2007, hit by the first of many debilitating panic attacks.Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty swallowing, difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including skipped beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis of ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia).Attacks strike at random, without warning and have been classed as 'untriggered', there does not have to be a preceding event or crisis to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to deal with the 'physi

cal' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a monster lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I accept the physical symptoms? Any suggestions?Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and find it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this subject.

[Guest guest]

>Thanks Robyn,

went shopping and found a book by Weekes, 'Peace from nervous

suffering'. Gives some good explanations about my concerns about my

physical symptoms. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

> Hi,

>

> I would suggest finding a couple of books on anxiety. Like Anxiety

Workbook. That will give you an explanation of the symptoms and let

you know that they are not dangerous. I have known this forever but

my mind doesn't seem to care. I think after you see an explanation

then ACT helps us just weather the storm but you have to have an

understand of the specific symptoms first. Weekes " Hope and

Help for you Nerves " is really good too.

>

> Robyn

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

>

> Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working

with

> it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully

> embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.

> August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly

what

> the problem was. December 2007, hit by the first of many

debilitating

> panic attacks.

> Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty

swallowing,

> difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including

skipped

> beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and

> inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms

> include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis of

> ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia).

> Attacks strike at random, without warning and have been classed

> as 'untriggered', there does not have to be a preceding event or

crisis

> to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to

deal

> with the 'physical' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a

monster

> lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I

> accept the physical symptoms? Any suggestions?

> Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and

find

> it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of

> recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind and

> Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.

> I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this

subject.

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I had these palpatattions and the best thing is to treat them

> medically... .i had exactly what you described twenty years ago and

i

> tried several mecications until one worked out

> >

> > Good Luck

> > ibrahim

> >

> >

> >

> > [ACT_for_the_ Public] Anxiety Disorder/Panic

> Attacks....Acceptan ce of Physical Symptoms...? ??

> >

> >

> > Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working

> with

> > it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully

> > embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.

> > August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly

> what

> > the problem was. December 2007, hit by the first of many

> debilitating

> > panic attacks.

> > Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty

> swallowing,

> > difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including

> skipped

> > beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and

> > inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms

> > include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis

of

> > ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia ).

> > Attacks strike at random, without warning and have been classed

> > as 'untriggered' , there does not have to be a preceding event or

> crisis

> > to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to

> deal

> > with the 'physical' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a

> monster

> > lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I

> > accept the physical symptoms? Any suggestions?

> > Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and

> find

> > it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of

> > recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind

and

> > Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.

> > I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this

> subject.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

She is the best. That book got me out of this years ago.

Good Luck.

Robyn

-------------- Original message ----------------------

>

>Thanks Robyn,

went shopping and found a book by Weekes, 'Peace from nervous

suffering'. Gives some good explanations about my concerns about my

physical symptoms. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

> Hi,

>

> I would suggest finding a couple of books on anxiety. Like Anxiety

Workbook. That will give you an explanation of the symptoms and let

you know that they are not dangerous. I have known this forever but

my mind doesn't seem to care. I think after you see an explanation

then ACT helps us just weather the storm but you have to have an

understand of the specific symptoms first. Weekes " Hope and

Help for you Nerves " is really good too.

>

> Robyn

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

>

> Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working

with

> it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully

> embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.

> August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly

what

> the problem was. December 2007, hit by the first of many

debilitating

> panic attacks.

> Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty

swallowing,

> difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including

skipped

> beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and

> inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms

> include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis of

> ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia).

> Attacks strike at random, without warning and have been classed

> as 'untriggered', there does not have to be a preceding event or

crisis

> to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to

deal

> with the 'physical' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a

monster

> lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I

> accept the physical symptoms? Any suggestions?

> Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and

find

> it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of

> recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind and

> Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.

> I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this

subject.

>

[Guest guest]

There's a wonderful little book written by an Australian woman whose name I can't remember at the moment called Power Over Panic. It may be out of print, but I found it through amazon.com from a private seller. It shows the author's own struggle with panic disorder and how she came to find a cure through meditation. I go back to it from time to time.

Laurel

Subject: Re: Anxiety Disorder/Panic Attacks....Acceptance of Physical Symptoms...???To: ACT_for_the_Public Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 5:09 AM

>Thanks Robyn, went shopping and found a book by Weekes, 'Peace from nervous suffering'. Gives some good explanations about my concerns about my physical symptoms. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.> Hi, > > I would suggest finding a couple of books on anxiety. Like Anxiety Workbook. That will give you an explanation of the symptoms and let you know that they are not dangerous. I have known this forever but my mind doesn't seem to care. I think after you see an explanation then ACT helps us just weather the storm but you have to have an understand of the specific symptoms first. Weekes "Hope and Help for you Nerves" is really good too. > > Robyn > > ------------ -- Original

message ------------ -- > > Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working with > it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully > embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.> August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly what > the problem was. December 2007, hit by the first of many debilitating > panic attacks.> Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty swallowing, > difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including skipped > beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and > inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms > include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis of > ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia ).> Attacks strike at random, without warning and have been

classed > as 'untriggered' , there does not have to be a preceding event or crisis > to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to deal > with the 'physical' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a monster > lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I > accept the physical symptoms? Any suggestions?> Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and find > it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of > recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind and > Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.> I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this subject.>

[Guest guest]

I think you mean Weekes, the australian psychiatrist.

[ACT_for_the_ Public] Re: Anxiety Disorder/Panic Attacks....Acceptan ce of Physical Symptoms...? ??To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comDate: Monday, September 8, 2008, 5:09 AM

>Thanks Robyn, went shopping and found a book by Weekes, 'Peace from nervous suffering'. Gives some good explanations about my concerns about my physical symptoms. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.> Hi, > > I would suggest finding a couple of books on anxiety. Like Anxiety Workbook. That will give you an explanation of the symptoms and let you know that they are not dangerous. I have known this forever but my mind doesn't seem to care. I think after you see an explanation then ACT helps us just weather the storm but you have to have an understand of the specific symptoms first. Weekes "Hope and Help for you Nerves" is really good too. > >

Robyn > > ------------ -- Original message ------------ -- > > Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working with > it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully > embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.> August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly what > the problem was. December 2007, hit by the first of many debilitating > panic attacks.> Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty swallowing, > difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including skipped > beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and > inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms > include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis of > ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia ).> Attacks

strike at random, without warning and have been classed > as 'untriggered' , there does not have to be a preceding event or crisis > to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to deal > with the 'physical' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a monster > lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I > accept the physical symptoms? Any suggestions?> Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and find > it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of > recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind and > Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.> I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this subject.>

[Guest guest]

Hi there.

Your symptoms sound just like mine. I don't get them all at once, but

they change from time to time. It is a relief to hear I am not the

only one.

My symptoms began once I quit smoking. I was a smoker of 10 years and

once I well and truly got over cravings, I started experiencing the

sensations you described. I didn't think much of it until I had a full

blown panic attack which was induced by hyperventilation on new years

day after a heavy night's celebrating. Since then, I developed a

generalised fear of my sensations.

The good news is, you are on the right track. I have just finished

Russ ' 'The Happiness Trap' which has helped me immensely (as

well as some visits to a therapist which I have not needed (as much)

since I began reading ' book.

I suggest you also buy his CD's on mindfullness. I did and I listen to

them and practice the exercises at night in bed. I believe this has

helped me immensely.

Hang in there and you will get better.

G.

>

> Hi All, Iam new to the concept of ACT and have only been working with

> it for approx 6weeks. Making very good progress and I have fully

> embraced all aspects as part of my recovery.

> August 2007 I began to feel unwell but could not identify exactly what

> the problem was. December 2007, hit by the first of many debilitating

> panic attacks.

> Physical symptoms include, sense of choking and difficulty swallowing,

> difficulty breathing, chest pain, heart palpitations including skipped

> beats, numbness and tingling in limbs, sweating, dizziness and

> inability to talk and impending sense of doom. Clinical symptoms

> include raised blood presure, increased pulse rate and diagnosis of

> ectopic heartbeat(arrythmia).

> Attacks strike at random, without warning and have been classed

> as 'untriggered', there does not have to be a preceding event or crisis

> to precipitate the onset. The problem I am having is using ACT to deal

> with the 'physical' symptoms of anxiety. It is like having a monster

> lurking in the background of my life, its frightens me. How do I

> accept the physical symptoms? Any suggestions?

> Iam currently reading 'The Happiness Trap' by Dr Russ and find

> it to be a truly remarkable and inspiring book, my first hope of

> recovery. Iam unable to obtain a copy of 'Get Out of Your Mind and

> Into Your Life' in Australia as yet.

> I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and feedback on this subject.

>