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I'm not sure I understand. Did your parents call you Nobody? Mine did, not in those words, but by neglecting and abusing me.

Just want to understand what you are saying...

Helena

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'My name is Nobody''That's a funny name; why did your parents call you Nobody?''Because nobody is perfect'LOL to you all

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Hi Helena

Some of the posts lately seemed so serious and perhaps a little complicated so this was my attempt at taking a light hearted look at one of my own problems.

I have always striven to do my very best at everything I have attempted in life. In other words a perfectionist. I know now, as do the experts, that perfectionism can well be one of the causes of depression.

We all know the saying that 'nobody is perfect' so if my name is Nobody then I no longer need to strive for improvement. In other words in a good-humoured fashion I am accepting myself as I am.

L and LOL

Nobody xx

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'My name is Nobody''That's a funny name; why did your parents call you Nobody?''Because nobody is perfect'LOL to you all

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Well dome Ivor. I was antidepresants for 8 months. When I gave them

up the world was very gray for about 10 months. I then started to

improve and started to feel a lot better than I did when was on

drugs. You go on antidepressants when you can't cope anymore,

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Well dome Ivor. I was antidepresants for 8 months. When I gave them

up the world was very gray for about 10 months. I then started to

improve and started to feel a lot better than I did when was on

drugs. You go on antidepressants when you can't cope anymore,

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> > I think there has to be a stage where you determine whether a

> > thought

> > is helpful or not

> > before you decide to defuse it, don't you? that to

> > me implies a stage where you

> > are almost bound to be involved in some

> > sort of cognitive restructuring

> > (which I have to admit I've found

> > very helpful) even if you don't

> > intend to do so. Of course, you don't

> > need to get stuck at that

> > stage<G>

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> > I agree totally with your comment about not feeling

> > guilty. Guilt is

> > something

> > that gets you nowhere fast!

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> > Louise

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> > Sandoz, M.S.

> > Graduate Student

> > Department of Psychology

> > University of Mississippi

> > emilykennison@ gmail.com

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Ivor, thanks for your comments. I have a little different take on the use of anti depressants. I took pain medication after major surgery last year; should I have just accepted the pain and refused medication? I suppose some people would have, but I chose the pain killer, short term.

I don't think it has to be either ACT OR antidepressants. It may take both for some people; we are all different. Depression is a disease and I don't know why one must face up to and accept it, as in refusing medications that may help. People never say that to diabetics.

Having said that, once I get comfortable with ACT, I think I will wean myself off them again and see what happens. I would love that!

Best,

Helena

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Don't take the meds, they will just make things worse in the end. According to Dr Burns, a leading psychiatrist, CBT therapist, author, and brain chemistry researcher, drugs don't work.It was once said that CBT + drugs was the most efective therapy but recent research has shown this not to be the case (Dr Burns again). CBT works best on its own, I guess because you work on your pure emotions.Dr Burns says no one is hard wired for depression or anxiety, and he has never found anything wrong with the brains of people with these illnesses. People do tend to inherit personality traits and some of these predispose us to anxiety. A mixture of personailty and envirement can soft wire us for depression and anxiety. The good news is, although it might take many years, this soft wiring can be undone. Meditators have high levels of GABA, a soothing neurotransmitter, and this has a positive effect on brain struture. It is best to do things naturally.Buddhism and ACT can teach us how to be compassionate and loving to our selves and others, and when we form healing and loving relationships we can heal. Neurosis is lack of self love.I'm reading a fabulous book at the moment which I shall write about it later.All the best,Kavy> > > > > > > I think there has to be a stage where you determine whether a > thought > is helpful or not > before you decide to defuse it, don't you? that to > me implies a stage where you > are almost bound to be involved in some > sort of cognitive restructuring > (which I have to admit I've found > very helpful) even if you don't > intend to do so. Of course, you don't > need to get stuck at that > stage<G>> > I agree totally with your comment about not feeling > guilty. Guilt is > something > that gets you nowhere fast!> > Louise> > > > > > > Sandoz, M.S.> Graduate Student> Department of Psychology > University of Mississippi> emilykennison@ gmail.com> >

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I like you as you are Helena. And I would take pain medication too if

I needed it. Anyway, I quite like pain killers because they help me

sleep, so I'm a hipocrite. And I love Rodiola Rosea at the weekends.

Antidepressants have really helped you so that's a positive and if

they were harmless and there was no tollerance I would take them

too. Anyway, they seem to have done you no harm. I take EPA and if it

ended my suffering I wouldn't worry about ACT.

Depression is one of the most painful things you can go through. A

famous actress once said she would sooner have cancer than go through

depression again. I know what she means.

You have been very brave and have have been through enough. So you do

what's right for you. I'm with you either way.

Kavy

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> > > > thought

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> > > > before you decide to defuse it, don't you? that to

> > > > me implies a stage where you

> > > > are almost bound to be involved in some

> > > > sort of cognitive restructuring

> > > > (which I have to admit I've found

> > > > very helpful) even if you don't

> > > > intend to do so. Of course, you don't

> > > > need to get stuck at that

> > > > stage<G>

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> > > > I agree totally with your comment about not feeling

> > > > guilty. Guilt is

> > > > something

> > > > that gets you nowhere fast!

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> > > > Department of Psychology

> > > > University of Mississippi

> > > > emilykennison@ gmail.com

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