Re: Hello from a new member

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top posting... Welcome .I wonder about docs Rx'ing the WP.  Given what I know about hormones now I could not, in good conscience, prescribe the WP if I were a doctor.  If that much hormone is not giving blood levels then there is something really wrong!  I remember Dr. Formby's horror when he often told me me that no scientific institution would get approval to do such high doses on animals because it would be considered animal abuse.  There was more insanity to the choosing of that dosing schedule than anyone can ever imagine.  Dr. Formby was horrified by it and did not endorse it.  And yet, I don't want a doctor that will only give me a dribble of tri-est!!!   If a doctor is Rx'ing a rhythmic protocol based on individual needs then that is just a rhythmic protocol, not the WP.  It is important for everyone to know this because when someone says they are doing well on the WP and in truth they are using reasonable doses of hormones they are giving support to the suprapharmalogical schedule that Wiley is touting.  In my experience (when my days were full of this and I was talking to hundreds of women online, on the phone, and in person) I never encountered anyone who was on the full WP who was ok.  Anyone who said so was attributing their depression, weight gain, or other bad symptoms to other things and they forgot Occam's razor.   Anyone who seemed to be ok... it always turned out they were on about 1/4 or less of the hormones.  About the men's protocol.  It is 40mg of T cream BID and 30mg of DHEA cream AM.  Some pharmacists consider that a big dose.  There is nothing special about it compared to what other doctors do, but she said it is a Wiley protocol so she can get a cut from the pharmacies.  She has no professional experience with men's hormones either.   If you are looking for guidance with men's hormones the name I'd trust first is Dr. Shippen.  He has a book which is a good start.  My father, my partner, and several men that I know are doing T with successful results.  Anyone who is near my children does T injections.  Laurel Hello,My name is Connard, and I just joined the group a few days ago. I've been reading the posts with great interest.I've never been on the Wiley Protocol, but came across the book a couple of weeks ago and immediately ordered it. It made a tremendous amount of sense to me and I was very excited about getting onto the WP -- until I found the Rhythmic Living website and read about all the problems a lot of you have had with the high P doses.I really like the idea of following a rhymthic protocol that simulates the body's natural hormonal rhythms. What I need now is a good doctor who's knowledgeable about rhythmic dosing. It could certainly be someone who uses the WP, as long as he or she modifies it as needed to work well for each individual. Can any of you recommend doctors? I live in Florida, in the Tampa Bay area, but if I have to travel, I will.Also, somewhere in one of the RL posts, I saw a mention of the WP for men. Can someone tell me anything about that? My husband is on DHEA and testosterone, but is there a rhythmic aspect to male hormone levels?I have some issues related to BHRT that I'd like to run by you all, but I'll save that for another post.Thanks,

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 I don't think it was just high P that got me, but Hi E2 also. Just way too much hormone period!!!! From what I've read high E is big cause of hair loss.Jeanie___________________________I've heard that high E creates hair loss, but personally I've never seen it.  The only trouble I've ever had with hair loss was when I had too much P.   Since I've been mostly off P my hair is fine.  Add in just a little P to try and cycle and my hair goes dry and I start to see loss.  I think I'm pack to the gills with P.  And I don't get thyroid related hair loss either.  My P related hair loss is male pattern (DHT, I suspect).Laurel