Re: numbness for the 1st time in 2+years

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When was your MRI? I had one 9/04 showing a new lesion, in a new machine, a closed machine. The previous 2 were in open machines and I just don't think they could see it.

How large was the new lesion? Definitely wasn't there before or couldn't be seen?

When I eat chocolate, I get numbness.

When I sleep on my arm I could get numbness, too. But they're typical normal responses to stimuli.

Is it winter where you are?

good luck, I hope it resolves soon. Fear is a big factor.. we get a bad thought and then everything goes haywire.

[low dose naltrexone] numbness for the 1st time in 2+years

OK I have been on LDN since Jan 04 and I just had an MRI and they said that I had a new lession and Sat morning I woke up and my right hand is numb and it is stioll numb today.1st - what should I do?2nd - Is LDN no longer working for me??Please help!!

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Hi Jen,

We just had many chats regarding this issue of having a new lesion. I think

the overall thought is that some have many lesions and few symptoms and some

have one lesion and tons of symptoms. So, it is not always correlated

directly with how one is doing. My husband was also bummed that they found a

tiny new lesion a couple months after starting LDN. He got depressed and we

quickly determined at that point that we would not worry about the lesions

because he was doing so much better symptom wise.

As far as the numbness, is it possible that it is a direct response to your

finding out that you have a lesion and your feeling very stressed about it.

Stress is the worse thing that you can do to your body with MS.

What dosage are taking at this time? Also are you on an MS diet or taking

supplements?

Hang in there

Aletha

[low dose naltrexone] numbness for the 1st time in 2+years

> OK I have been on LDN since Jan 04 and I just had an MRI and they said

> that I had a new lession and Sat morning I woke up and my right hand is

> numb and it is stioll numb today.

> 1st - what should I do?

> 2nd - Is LDN no longer working for me??

> Please help!!

>

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Larry and All,

In your reply you say that chocolate makes you

numb. I was just noticing this past weekend that

chocolate was not my friend. It seems that when I

have chocolate my MS symptoms seem tobe exagerated a

bit.......I was wondering if anyone else in this

group, has found the same type of reaction to

chocolate?

I have to say that I am a total chocoholic. It took

going without chocolate for two weeks to notice the

corelation between the two and the effects on me.

I am just really curious if anyone else out there

has noticed any kind of reactions to any certian kinds

of foods that may be taken as a light snack or an

occasional treat once in a while.

--- LarryGC <larrygc@...> wrote:

> When was your MRI? I had one 9/04 showing a new

> lesion, in a new machine, a closed machine. The

> previous 2 were in open machines and I just don't

> think they could see it.

>

> How large was the new lesion? Definitely wasn't

> there before or couldn't be seen?

>

> When I eat chocolate, I get numbness.

>

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>

> > When was your MRI? I had one 9/04 showing a new

> > lesion, in a new machine, a closed machine. The

> > previous 2 were in open machines and I just don't

> > think they could see it.

> >

> > How large was the new lesion? Definitely wasn't

> > there before or couldn't be seen?

> >

> > When I eat chocolate, I get numbness.

> >

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I know Larry is allergic to chocolate. I have no problems with it. I do have

major problems with non-organic lettuce. It makes my ankles swell and my

breasts break out in fungal blisters around the nipple area. It's all the

pesticides that can't be washed away that causes this. When I eat organic

lettuce this doesn't happen. I'm sticking with organic...it's not much fun

having to rub Vick's vapor rub on my boobies, rather cool sensation lol. Vick's

Vapor Rub is great for fungus. Okay, go ahead and make fun of me...I can take

it.

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Definitely. If I cheat once too often the ms can start to rear its ugly

head. The saturated fat cause the bad type of prostaglandin production which

in turn creates an inflammatory response and attack the myelin sheath.

Giving a person a chronic condition will turns a smart person into a very

old one hopefully. We take better care of ourselves than the person who

doesn't have the auto-immune condition if we have learned self-love. Kathy

Re: [low dose naltrexone] numbness for the 1st time in 2+years

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> Larry and All,

> In your reply you say that chocolate makes you

> numb. I was just noticing this past weekend that

> chocolate was not my friend. It seems that when I

> have chocolate my MS symptoms seem tobe exagerated a

> bit.......I was wondering if anyone else in this

> group, has found the same type of reaction to

> chocolate?

> I have to say that I am a total chocoholic. It took

> going without chocolate for two weeks to notice the

> corelation between the two and the effects on me.

> I am just really curious if anyone else out there

> has noticed any kind of reactions to any certian kinds

> of foods that may be taken as a light snack or an

> occasional treat once in a while.

>

>

>

> --- LarryGC <larrygc@...> wrote:

>

>> When was your MRI? I had one 9/04 showing a new

>> lesion, in a new machine, a closed machine. The

>> previous 2 were in open machines and I just don't

>> think they could see it.

>>

>> How large was the new lesion? Definitely wasn't

>> there before or couldn't be seen?

>>

>> When I eat chocolate, I get numbness.

>>

>

>

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Chocolate/cocoa has, I believe, as it turns out, as my medical hx shows, to be the cause of ALL but one allergy-related full-blown exacerbation. 1998 proved it, since I was drinking it without knowing it. All previous years I knew how much chocolate I was eating, before getting sick, 3 weeks later.

I had chocolate exacerbations in 1978, also, that I discovered last year when talking to an old friend about old times and he brought up my reaction to cocoa in 1978... then I realized that, that, too, was an exacerbation and not JUST an 'allergic reaction'

I thought a lot of people would notice a connection with chocolate/cocoa and MS, but some people insist they get no reaction and continue to eat it (but they seem to be also complaining about not getting 'any better', which is surely not my complaint).

I have done my own testing with chocolate and I do believe my numbness now is from my indulgences in the last few weeks. I will see in 3 weeks of not having ANY if they subside.

3 weeks seems to be the magic number for things triggered, and subsiding after the offending culprit is stopped.

JMHO of course

Re: [low dose naltrexone] numbness for the 1st time in 2+years

Larry and All, In your reply you say that chocolate makes younumb. I was just noticing this past weekend thatchocolate was not my friend. It seems that when Ihave chocolate my MS symptoms seem tobe exagerated abit.......I was wondering if anyone else in thisgroup, has found the same type of reaction tochocolate? I have to say that I am a total chocoholic. It tookgoing without chocolate for two weeks to notice thecorelation between the two and the effects on me. I am just really curious if anyone else out therehas noticed any kind of reactions to any certian kindsof foods that may be taken as a light snack or anoccasional treat once in a while.

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As of 2/2003, 2 months prior to LDN, I was not any longer "allergic" according to the prick tests, and a blood test to confirm. NO longer allergic to bananas or almonds, either. All my other 'allergies' matched from the mid 70s to 2003.

However, 9/03 I proved, at least to me and my docs, that chocolate will still trigger 'allergic'?'MS' reaction, and so I stopped at first SX and it subsided. I ran this test periodically and have continued to have reaction and potential flare. I do believe LDN kept the flare from happening.

But with this last trial, I'm not getting the typical symptoms, but the timeframe on this numbness is 3 weeks after pigging out and enjoying some chocolates. I had some yesterday and now will stop again and see how I feel in 3 weeks from now.

It's the only thing that ever gave me either symptom.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: numbness for the 1st time in 2+years

>> ========I know Larry is allergic to chocolate. I have no problems with it. I do have major problems with non-organic lettuce. It makes my ankles swell and my breasts break out in fungal blisters around the nipple area. It's all the pesticides that can't be washed away that causes this. When I eat organic lettuce this doesn't happen. I'm sticking with organic...it's not much fun having to rub Vick's vapor rub on my boobies, rather cool sensation lol. Vick's Vapor Rub is great for fungus. Okay, go ahead and make fun of me...I can take it.

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--- In low dose naltrexone , " Bren " <TwisterAlley2@w...>

wrote:

>

> I know Larry is allergic to chocolate. I have no problems with it.

I do have major problems with non-organic lettuce. It makes my ankles

swell and my breasts break out in fungal blisters around the nipple

area. It's all the pesticides that can't be washed away that causes

this. When I eat organic lettuce this doesn't happen. I'm sticking

with organic...it's not much fun having to rub Vick's vapor rub on my

boobies, rather cool sensation lol. Vick's Vapor Rub is great for

fungus. Okay, go ahead and make fun of me...I can take it.

>

>

>

If you need help applying the Vicks let me know.

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I know Larry is allergic to chocolate. I have no problems with

it.

> I do have major problems with non-organic lettuce. It makes my

ankles

> swell and my breasts break out in fungal blisters around the nipple

> area. It's all the pesticides that can't be washed away that

causes

> this. When I eat organic lettuce this doesn't happen. I'm

sticking

> with organic...it's not much fun having to rub Vick's vapor rub on

my

> boobies, rather cool sensation lol. Vick's Vapor Rub is great for

> fungus. Okay, go ahead and make fun of me...I can take it.

> >

> >

> >

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> If you need help applying the Vicks let me know.

>

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LOL, I knew something like that was comin'!! It's all cleared up now

so don't need any Vick's.

[Guest guest]

Kathy is right, everyone is right regarding the chocolate. I'm on (cheat a

little from time to time) the Swank diet which prohibits the chocolate. I think

the book says we can have a spoonful of Hershey's fat-free syrup, but its best

to work it the chocoholic thing out of the system (Look who's talking as I will

bleed choc if I could) Also the caffeine is the major factor with MS as it

promotes excitedbility. Eating fat free and non-hydronated oils, palm and

coconut oils, caffeinated products and transfats is the basis of the Swank Diet.

If you want, lets try and work towards a chocolate-free life, sounds sad and

destitute but perhaps we addicts can assist each other for the bigger cause

which is conquering this disase. --jc

A Worrier of the Light sometimes thinks: " If I do not do something, it will not

be done " . It is not quite like that: He must act, but he must allow room for the

Universe to act too. --o Coelho

[Guest guest]

Hhehe, finally someone here got me to laugh:)

Nola

[low dose naltrexone] Re: numbness for the 1st time in 2+years

> > I know Larry is allergic to chocolate. I have no problems with it. I do have major problems with non-organic lettuce. It makes my ankles swell and my breasts break out in fungal blisters around the nipple area. It's all the pesticides that can't be washed away that causes this. When I eat organic lettuce this doesn't happen. I'm sticking with organic...it's not much fun having to rub Vick's vapor rub on my boobies, rather cool sensation lol. Vick's Vapor Rub is great for fungus. Okay, go ahead and make fun of me...I can take it.> > >If you need help applying the Vicks let me know.

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Hi and everyone!

I'm not sure if all people with MS will react adversely to chocolate, but I

can certainly notice the bad reactions to it after I have it. All my

symptoms get worse. I feel more tingly and numb and my balance and walking

are definitely affected in a bad way.

When I was first diagnosed with MS, I went on the Swank diet and totally cut

out chocolate but then one day I slipped. My husband (who was a major

chocoholic!) had bought a big bag of those hershey cookie chocolate things

and with the bad combination of being chocolate deprived and loving those

yummy treats so much, I went all piggy on them and a few days later my left

hand went completely numb!!! I swear it was the chocolates that brought on

this attack and it lasted nearly 2 months!

I've since done the allergy test and discovered that I have problems

with sugar, so this could explain why the chocolate triggered an attack with

me.

Hope this helps!

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>Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] numbness for the 1st time in 2+years

>Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:41:21 -0800 (PST)

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>Larry and All,

> In your reply you say that chocolate makes you

>numb. I was just noticing this past weekend that

>chocolate was not my friend. It seems that when I

>have chocolate my MS symptoms seem tobe exagerated a

>bit.......I was wondering if anyone else in this

>group, has found the same type of reaction to

>chocolate?

> I have to say that I am a total chocoholic. It took

>going without chocolate for two weeks to notice the

>corelation between the two and the effects on me.

> I am just really curious if anyone else out there

>has noticed any kind of reactions to any certian kinds

>of foods that may be taken as a light snack or an

>occasional treat once in a while.

>

>

>

>--- LarryGC <larrygc@...> wrote:

>

> > When was your MRI? I had one 9/04 showing a new

> > lesion, in a new machine, a closed machine. The

> > previous 2 were in open machines and I just don't

> > think they could see it.

> >

> > How large was the new lesion? Definitely wasn't

> > there before or couldn't be seen?

> >

> > When I eat chocolate, I get numbness.

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dr. Neiper advised all of us with ms to be careful of too much sugar. Once

again, the end result is glycation, oxidative stress and inflammation.

Control this and hopefully manage the condition. Kathy

Re: [low dose naltrexone] numbness for the 1st time in 2+years

>>Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:41:21 -0800 (PST)

>>

>>

>>Larry and All,

>> In your reply you say that chocolate makes you

>>numb. I was just noticing this past weekend that

>>chocolate was not my friend. It seems that when I

>>have chocolate my MS symptoms seem tobe exagerated a

>>bit.......I was wondering if anyone else in this

>>group, has found the same type of reaction to

>>chocolate?

>> I have to say that I am a total chocoholic. It took

>>going without chocolate for two weeks to notice the

>>corelation between the two and the effects on me.

>> I am just really curious if anyone else out there

>>has noticed any kind of reactions to any certian kinds

>>of foods that may be taken as a light snack or an

>>occasional treat once in a while.

>>

>>

>>

>>--- LarryGC <larrygc@...> wrote:

>>

>> > When was your MRI? I had one 9/04 showing a new

>> > lesion, in a new machine, a closed machine. The

>> > previous 2 were in open machines and I just don't

>> > think they could see it.

>> >

>> > How large was the new lesion? Definitely wasn't

>> > there before or couldn't be seen?

>> >

>> > When I eat chocolate, I get numbness.

>> >

>>

>>

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Thanks all.

I just wanted to drop a thank you to every one who

replied to the question posed......I read that

chocolate should be cut in some diets but never heard

from anyone that it exagerates there symptoms.......My

mind has been put at ease here a bit thank you.

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