Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hi Margaret I have been on ldn for about 2 months for fibro. I am currently taking 3 mg. I found the first few weeks to be really good with pain relief. Now however I am not so good again. It seems to be the pattern with me that my body seems to get used to things. i also take guaifeinisin and recently stopped this to see if ldn would work on its own. However the pain came back quite bad in my back. I will have to see how it goes. All the best Cathal- > I am so glad that you are doing so well. I am sending you a " welcome > e-mail " as we speak. > > My best > Aletha > > [low dose naltrexone] Re: New to the group & my 2 cents on > >> weight > >> loss > >> > >> > >>> I thought it was strange myself. I mean I can understand his point > >>> of not > >>> wanting to > >>> prescribe something that has had no clinical proof, however, he is a > >>> research doctor attached > >>> to a university. So don't you think all the anadotal evidence would > >>> make > >>> him curious? He > >>> had no problem suggesting a study which is testing Avenox and Copaxone > >>> toghether. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against > >>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in > >>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who > >>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Cathal I am taking guaifenisin too for fibromyalgia but am taking the LDN for MS . Nola [low dose naltrexone] Re: New to the group & my 2 cents on> >> weight> >> loss> >>> >>> >>> I thought it was strange myself. I mean I can understand his point> >>> of not> >>> wanting to> >>> prescribe something that has had no clinical proof, however, he is a> >>> research doctor attached> >>> to a university. So don't you think all the anadotal evidence would> >>> make> >>> him curious? He> >>> had no problem suggesting a study which is testing Avenox and Copaxone> >>> toghether.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against> >>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in> >>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who> >>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think one possible key to success with LDN for fibro is delta wave sleep--ie restorative stage 4 sleep that produces growth hormone. that's what Lyrica and Xyrem meds are supposed to produce. I know of a trial for some new antidepressant for fibro that has one site in my Florida town--and they're screening OUT anyone who does not report adequate sleep. research shows fibro is likely to demonstrate alpha sleep intrusions into delta wave sleep, even if sleep meds are putting you to sleep. But the nurse who WAS going to help me set up fibro and Ehlers-Danlos LDN case studies in Atlanta wrote me that she had achieved restorative sleep with Topomax and then LDN worked for her in 1 month. So it's a 2-pronged attack you may need. Norman Brown, Ph.D., Ph.D. I convened the first international research meeting on Naltrexone and the Endorphin & Immune Systems June 10, 2005 at Rutgers, where the endocrinologist who discovered in 2004 how naltrexone works on endorphin system is head of the dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Thanks Aletha. I am truly enthralled with this email group. I have learned so much and am spreading the word to just eveyone whom I think will benefit form taking LDN. I was at our pharmacy today to pick up my refill and she told me that the only filler they use with pure naltrexone is lactose. so far so good and she also said that they are getting more and more orders for ldn here from different doctors so the word is getting out. Thanks again Margaret On Jan 31, 2006, at 6:39 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote: > Hi Margaret, > > I am so glad that you are doing so well. I am sending you a " welcome > e-mail " as we speak. > > My best > Aletha > > [low dose naltrexone] Re: New to the group & my 2 cents on >>> weight >>> loss >>> >>> >>>> I thought it was strange myself. I mean I can understand his point >>>> of not >>>> wanting to >>>> prescribe something that has had no clinical proof, however, he is a >>>> research doctor attached >>>> to a university. So don't you think all the anadotal evidence would >>>> make >>>> him curious? He >>>> had no problem suggesting a study which is testing Avenox and >>>> Copaxone >>>> toghether. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against >>>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in >>>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who >>>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Hi Cathal, Totally strange but as I said before I have been pain free for almost 3 months now but just a couple of days ago I have pain in my upper back. I am still taking ldn at night but have had to take a couple of Advil to relieve the tightness in my back. Along with this I notice too that my energy level is a bit lower. However, I am still confident that the ldn will do its job and am going to keep on it and see what happens just like you said. Will keep you posted as time goes on and lets hope that our pain free days will return soon. Margaret. On Feb 1, 2006, at 12:36 PM, dockeydoo wrote: > Hi Margaret > I have been on ldn for about 2 months for fibro. I am currently taking > 3 mg. I found the > first few weeks to be really good with pain relief. Now however I am > not so good again. It > seems to be the pattern with me that my body seems to get used to > things. i also take > guaifeinisin and recently stopped this to see if ldn would work on its > own. However the > pain came back quite bad in my back. I will have to see how it goes. > > All the best > Cathal- > >> I am so glad that you are doing so well. I am sending you a " welcome >> e-mail " as we speak. >> >> My best >> Aletha >> >> [low dose naltrexone] Re: New to the group & my 2 cents on >>>> weight >>>> loss >>>> >>>> >>>>> I thought it was strange myself. I mean I can understand his point >>>>> of not >>>>> wanting to >>>>> prescribe something that has had no clinical proof, however, he is >>>>> a >>>>> research doctor attached >>>>> to a university. So don't you think all the anadotal evidence >>>>> would >>>>> make >>>>> him curious? He >>>>> had no problem suggesting a study which is testing Avenox and >>>>> Copaxone >>>>> toghether. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against >>>>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in >>>>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who >>>>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Wow Margaret that is great news. How wonderful to see that the word is spreading. It's just great! Aletha [low dose naltrexone] Re: New to the group & my 2 cents on >>>> weight >>>> loss >>>> >>>> >>>>> I thought it was strange myself. I mean I can understand his point >>>>> of not >>>>> wanting to >>>>> prescribe something that has had no clinical proof, however, he is a >>>>> research doctor attached >>>>> to a university. So don't you think all the anadotal evidence would >>>>> make >>>>> him curious? He >>>>> had no problem suggesting a study which is testing Avenox and >>>>> Copaxone >>>>> toghether. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against >>>>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in >>>>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who >>>>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Dear Norman and Group members I was very interested to read that one possible key to success with LDN is because of delta wave sleep. I took my first LDN last night and boy did I have a good sleep. Better than I have slept for 30 years! Sue -- In low dose naltrexone , " nphbrown1 " <NPHbrown@...> wrote: > > I think one possible key to success with LDN for fibro is delta wave > sleep--ie restorative stage 4 sleep that produces growth hormone. > that's what Lyrica and Xyrem meds are supposed to produce. I know of a > trial for some new antidepressant for fibro that has one site in my > Florida town--and they're screening OUT anyone who does not report > adequate sleep. research shows fibro is likely to demonstrate alpha > sleep intrusions into delta wave sleep, even if sleep meds are putting > you to sleep. But the nurse who WAS going to help me set up fibro and > Ehlers-Danlos LDN case studies in Atlanta wrote me that she had > achieved restorative sleep with Topomax and then LDN worked for her in > 1 month. So it's a 2-pronged attack you may need. > > Norman Brown, Ph.D., Ph.D. > I convened the first international research meeting on Naltrexone and > the Endorphin & Immune Systems June 10, 2005 at Rutgers, where the > endocrinologist who discovered in 2004 how naltrexone works on > endorphin system is head of the dept. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Cathal & Nola You mentioned that you are taking guaifenisin for Fibro. what is it? I have never heard of this at least not here in Canada. Is there another name for it? Would appreciate some info on this. I have fibro and am taking ldn but in the last week the pain has returned (not bad) in my upper back. Maybe this stuff would help me. thanks Margaret On Feb 2, 2006, at 12:49 AM, oothappam wrote: > Cathal I am taking guaifenisin too for fibromyalgia but am taking the > LDN for MS . > Nola >> [low dose naltrexone] Re: New to the group & my 2 cents on >> > >> weight >> > >> loss >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> I thought it was strange myself. I mean I can understand his >> point >> > >>> of not >> > >>> wanting to >> > >>> prescribe something that has had no clinical proof, however, he >> is a >> > >>> research doctor attached >> > >>> to a university. So don't you think all the anadotal evidence >> would >> > >>> make >> > >>> him curious? He >> > >>> had no problem suggesting a study which is testing Avenox and >> Copaxone >> > >>> toghether. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against >> > >>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in >> > >>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who >> > >>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Hi Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the states check out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposed to take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be the cause of fibro. The book " What your doctor may not tell you about fibromyagia " by Dr st armand is worth a read if you are planning on taking guai. I have been on this 4 years now and it definitely does help with muscle pain thats for sure because if I stop I really know it. All the best Cathal- -- In low dose naltrexone , Marg & Tony Senger <masenger@...> wrote: > > Cathal & Nola > You mentioned that you are taking guaifenisin for Fibro. what is it? > I have never heard of this at least not here in Canada. Is there > another name for it? > Would appreciate some info on this. I have fibro and am taking ldn but > in the last week the pain has returned (not bad) in my upper back. > Maybe this stuff would help me. thanks > Margaret > On Feb 2, 2006, at 12:49 AM, oothappam wrote: > > > Cathal I am taking guaifenisin too for fibromyalgia but am taking the > > LDN for MS . > > Nola > >> [low dose naltrexone] Re: New to the group & my 2 cents on > >> > >> weight > >> > >> loss > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> I thought it was strange myself. I mean I can understand his > >> point > >> > >>> of not > >> > >>> wanting to > >> > >>> prescribe something that has had no clinical proof, however, he > >> is a > >> > >>> research doctor attached > >> > >>> to a university. So don't you think all the anadotal evidence > >> would > >> > >>> make > >> > >>> him curious? He > >> > >>> had no problem suggesting a study which is testing Avenox and > >> Copaxone > >> > >>> toghether. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against > >> > >>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in > >> > >>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who > >> > >>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 I am one of Dr st amand's patients, as I'm lucky enough to live about a 1.5 hour drive from his office here in california. He's really good. Well the guaifenisin as Cathal said is one of the ingredients found in cough syrup but it has to be pure g uaifenisin to be taken for fibro. I have a friend who has improved tremendously using this for fibro and thats why i am trying it now for myself.But so far i cant see any improvements because my MS symptoms are so horrible and many of them overlap the fibro symptoms and its hard to tell which is which! Nola [low dose naltrexone] Re:Fibro and LDN Hi Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the statescheck out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposedto take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be thecause of fibro. The book "What your doctor may not tell you aboutfibromyagia"by Dr st armand is worth a read if you are planning ontaking guai. I have been on this 4 years now and it definitely doeshelp with muscle pain thats for sure because if I stop I really know it.All the bestCathal> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against> >> > >>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in> >> > >>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who> >> > >>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 WHERE IN CALIFORNIA IS THIS DR.ST. AMOND LOCATED? I LIVE IN VISALIA BETWEEN FRESNO & Bakersfield. I NEED A GOOD DR. FOR MS. I AM CHRONIC PROGRESSIVE, DON'T KNOW WHAT STAGE I'M IN FOR THAT CATEGORY. AND I JUST STARTED LDN, AND WOULD LIKE TO FIND A GOOD DR. FOR MS. I AM ON MEDICAL, AND HAVE A VERY HARD TIME LOCATING GOOD DR.S HERE FOR MS, AND ORTHOPEDIC FOR MY BACK PROBLEM, TOO. THANKS. ANITA -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re:Fibro and LDN I am one of Dr st amand's patients, as I'm lucky enough to live about a 1.5 hour drive from his office here in california. He's really good. Well the guaifenisin as Cathal said is one of the ingredients found in cough syrup but it has to be pure g uaifenisin to be taken for fibro. I have a friend who has improved tremendously using this for fibro and thats why i am trying it now for myself.But so far i cant see any improvements because my MS symptoms are so horrible and many of them overlap the fibro symptoms and its hard to tell which is which! Nola [low dose naltrexone] Re:Fibro and LDN Hi Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the statescheck out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposedto take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be thecause of fibro. The book "What your doctor may not tell you aboutfibromyagia"by Dr st armand is worth a read if you are planning ontaking guai. I have been on this 4 years now and it definitely doeshelp with muscle pain thats for sure because if I stop I really know it.All the bestCathal> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against> >> > >>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in> >> > >>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who> >> > >>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Dear Anita, Unfortunately Dr St Amand is an endocrinologist and an expert on fibromyalgia, he doesnt' deal with neurological problems. He knows I have MS but he is treating my Fibro(as Ive got both).I hope someone on this lsit is from your area (I am close to Los Angeles) and can recommend a good doctor up there for MS. Nola [low dose naltrexone] Re:Fibro and LDN Hi Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the statescheck out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposedto take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be thecause of fibro. The book "What your doctor may not tell you aboutfibromyagia"by Dr st armand is worth a read if you are planning ontaking guai. I have been on this 4 years now and it definitely doeshelp with muscle pain thats for sure because if I stop I really know it.All the bestCathal> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against> >> > >>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in> >> > >>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who> >> > >>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 THANK YOU FOR THE REPLY BACK TO ME. IF YOU KNOW OF A GOOD DR. LET ME KNOW? THANKS. GOD BLESS YOU. -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re:Fibro and LDN Dear Anita, Unfortunately Dr St Amand is an endocrinologist and an expert on fibromyalgia, he doesnt' deal with neurological problems. He knows I have MS but he is treating my Fibro(as Ive got both).I hope someone on this lsit is from your area (I am close to Los Angeles) and can recommend a good doctor up there for MS. Nola [low dose naltrexone] Re:Fibro and LDN Hi Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the statescheck out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposedto take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be thecause of fibro. The book "What your doctor may not tell you aboutfibromyagia"by Dr st armand is worth a read if you are planning ontaking guai. I have been on this 4 years now and it definitely doeshelp with muscle pain thats for sure because if I stop I really know it.All the bestCathal> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against> >> > >>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in> >> > >>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who> >> > >>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Hey Cathal, Thanks for the info about guaifenisein. Just looked at the web site and wow I couldn't believe the stories about it. I have been taking an antidepressant (which the doctor says is for muscle relaxation) and it does help but it is another drug and I would rather try something else - herbs etc. I am going to check with our health food store and see if they can get it for me or maybe someone will carry here. Really worth a try. Thanks again. Margaret On Feb 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, dockeydoo wrote: > Hi > Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the states > check out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposed > to take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be the > cause of fibro. The book " What your doctor may not tell you about > fibromyagia " by Dr st armand is worth a read if you are planning on > taking guai. I have been on this 4 years now and it definitely does > help with muscle pain thats for sure because if I stop I really know > it. > All the best > Cathal- > > > > -- In low dose naltrexone , Marg & Tony Senger > <masenger@...> wrote: >> >> Cathal & Nola >> You mentioned that you are taking guaifenisin for Fibro. what is it? >> I have never heard of this at least not here in Canada. Is there >> another name for it? >> Would appreciate some info on this. I have fibro and am taking ldn >> but >> in the last week the pain has returned (not bad) in my upper back. >> Maybe this stuff would help me. thanks >> Margaret >> On Feb 2, 2006, at 12:49 AM, oothappam wrote: >> >>> Cathal I am taking guaifenisin too for fibromyalgia but am taking the >>> LDN for MS . >>> Nola >>>> [low dose naltrexone] Re: New to the group & my 2 > cents on >>>>>>> weight >>>>>>> loss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought it was strange myself. I mean I can understand his >>>> point >>>>>>>> of not >>>>>>>> wanting to >>>>>>>> prescribe something that has had no clinical proof, > however, he >>>> is a >>>>>>>> research doctor attached >>>>>>>> to a university. So don't you think all the anadotal > evidence >>>> would >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> him curious? He >>>>>>>> had no problem suggesting a study which is testing Avenox and >>>> Copaxone >>>>>>>> toghether. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against >>>>>>>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in >>>>>>>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who >>>>>>>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 `hi You can order the guai online at the guailife site. There are other places as well in the states that do mail order health products express have it at 800 846 5525 also Dr Armand is at 310 577 7510 he might know of a doc where you are. All the best Cathal> > Hey Cathal, > Thanks for the info about guaifenisein. Just looked at the web site > and wow I couldn't believe the stories about it. I have been taking an > antidepressant (which the doctor says is for muscle relaxation) and it > does help but it is another drug and I would rather try something else > - herbs etc. I am going to check with our health food store and see if > they can get it for me or maybe someone will carry here. Really worth > a try. Thanks again. > Margaret > On Feb 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, dockeydoo wrote: > > > Hi > > Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the states > > check out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposed > > to take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be the > > cause of fibro. The book " What your doctor may not tell you about > > fibromyagia " by Dr st armand is worth a read if you are planning on > > taking guai. I have been on this 4 years now and it definitely does > > help with muscle pain thats for sure because if I stop I really know > > it. > > All the best > > Cathal- > > > > > > > > -- In low dose naltrexone , Marg & Tony Senger > > <masenger@> wrote: > >> > >> Cathal & Nola > >> You mentioned that you are taking guaifenisin for Fibro. what is it? > >> I have never heard of this at least not here in Canada. Is there > >> another name for it? > >> Would appreciate some info on this. I have fibro and am taking ldn > >> but > >> in the last week the pain has returned (not bad) in my upper back. > >> Maybe this stuff would help me. thanks > >> Margaret > >> On Feb 2, 2006, at 12:49 AM, oothappam wrote: > >> > >>> Cathal I am taking guaifenisin too for fibromyalgia but am taking the > >>> LDN for MS . > >>> Nola > >>>> [low dose naltrexone] Re: New to the group & my 2 > > cents on > >>>>>>> weight > >>>>>>> loss > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I thought it was strange myself. I mean I can understand his > >>>> point > >>>>>>>> of not > >>>>>>>> wanting to > >>>>>>>> prescribe something that has had no clinical proof, > > however, he > >>>> is a > >>>>>>>> research doctor attached > >>>>>>>> to a university. So don't you think all the anadotal > > evidence > >>>> would > >>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>> him curious? He > >>>>>>>> had no problem suggesting a study which is testing Avenox and > >>>> Copaxone > >>>>>>>> toghether. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> you know its funny how most speacialists are against > >>>>>>>>> ldn or what nothing to do with it espeacially here in > >>>>>>>>> canada, but iv'e allways been the kind off person who > >>>>>>>>> does what i want so i started the ldn a month ago but > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 In a message dated 3/7/07 6:48:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, wave@... writes: Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the states check out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposed to take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be the cause of fibro Very interesting. I have been on this cough med for bronchitis after the flu for about 3 weeks now and have not noticed any difference in my Fibro.************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 According to the blind studies there was no difference between the placebo group and the Guaifenisein group. This validates your personal 3 week findings. Greg Sled, California. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a message dated 3/7/07 6:48:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, wave@... writes: Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the states check out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposed to take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be the cause of fibro Very interesting. I have been on this cough med for bronchitis after the flu for about 3 weeks now and have not noticed any difference in my Fibro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 I was on Dr St Amand's treatment, in fact he was my doc.I was using the guaifenisin .I have both MS AND Fibro.But I stopped using the guaifenisin because the spasticity and nerve damage caused by the MS were the worse symptoms, in otyher words i fwlt my problems were more MS related than fibro.But about 40% of the lumps in my muscles did disappear after being on guaifenisin.But i didnt feel better yet. They say it takes a long long time to feel better, related to how long you've had fibro. Nola Fw: [low dose naltrexone] Re:Fibro and LDN According to the blind studies there was no difference between the placebo group and the Guaifenisein group. This validates your personal 3 week findings.Greg Sled, California.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~In a message dated 3/7/07 6:48:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, wave@... writes:Guaifenisein is a cough medication that you can get easy in the states check out <www.guailife.com> it has all the info on it. It is supposed to take phosphates out of the kidneys which are supposed to be the cause of fibroVery interesting. I have been on this cough med for bronchitis after the flu for about 3 weeks now and have not noticed any difference in my Fibro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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