Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 , The reason I suggested ALA was that it is indeed a chelator and for the short period of a month will indeed help clean out the basic toxins that are causing a lot of the problems. I do not think that it should be used long term, but then there have never been any studies that I could find that showed it carried heavy metals in or out of the brain. It does have documentation that shows it carries toxins out of the body and specifically the liver. With lowered T cells, the entire immune system is on overload and it just has no reserves to fight which is one of the primary reasons T Receptors are way down in count. By doing the basic things that free up support for the immune system to start functioning, the body can relatively easily start to re-supply T cells. That was the logic. Seems to work for cancer. But as I said, I don’t have MS and so can only speak from a cancer aspect. Regards, Bruce Guilmette, PhD Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc. Http://survivecancer.net Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV) From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of mbrookh Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:00 AM low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: T-cells/ALA This recommendation for alpha lipioc acid concerns me. ALA is a potent chelator which according to some crosses the blood brain barrier readily-can transfer heavy metals in and out. Any of us with a mouthful of amalgam[silver/mercury] fillings should never think about this product until metal is removed from the mouth. The toxic mercury load would be overwhelming. For general information re toxic metals please see http://www.dartmouth.edu/~toxmetal/TX.shtml Vaccine injured children have an amazing profile of symptoms that fit within the scope of heavy metal toxicity. One group that addresses this is: / The archives are packed with info. A brief summary that lists the symptoms of mercury poisoning is found here: http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/July2001/AutismUniqueMercPoi son.htm Our daughter, now 21, spent years with the labels of mr, pdd-nos, seizure disorder of unspecified origin, immune dysfunction, etc. She had about 85% of the physical complaints that mercury poisoning causes. Chelation has greatly benefited her. ALA is one of the agents we use. She has NO dental amalgams. ALA (alpha lipoic acid) at about 600 mgs per day and Ester C to > bowel tolerance daily for a month along with the liver flush. I would then > maintain the Ester C at 4,000+ mgs per day past the first month. >> > Regards, > > > > Bruce Guilmette, PhD > > Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc. > > <http://survivecancer.net> Http://survivecancer.net > > Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. > Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV) > > > > _____ > > From: low dose naltrexone > [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Aristidis > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:41 AM > low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] T-cells > > > > Hi every one > I'm in the group for 15 months and I never come across to the matter > of T-cells. > Since I was diagnosed, I'm fighting to bring those in to balance, and > use LDN for this purpose. Not seeing any mention of this, I'm > wondering if I do the right treatment. I'm having tests for T- cells > every month, and I see no improvement. Any comment will be > helpful. > > > > > > _____ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 , Sounds reasonable. Again, I am not a proponent of using any form of chelation therapy for any period of time simply because it can re-distribute stuff rather than just get it out of the system. The problem becomes one of the lesser of two evils. That is why I mentioned it as a one month only thing. More like a kickstart to help it function rather than a supplement to keep it functioning. That frequently is the problem with supplements in that they become a substitute for proper nutrition and common sense. If you can take a pill or drink a potent, why would you want to correct the things that perhaps got you in trouble in the first place? Before everyone jumps down my throat on that last statement, I am not claiming MS, cancer or anything else is caused by bad dietary choices. I am stating that continuing to practice dietary choices that force the immune system to work harder is not a smart plan. Supplements have their place and if you have a bodily function that needs them to function, then by all means use whatever is needed. But what should be considered is the use of supplements as a support for proper dietary consideration that frequently corrects many of the underlying causes of ancillary issues such as lower T cells, etc… A note about test interpretations on hair analysis for you to ponder: I have spent a lot of time looking at hair analysis and find the concept intriguing. What I found disturbing was taking 4 batches of my hair cut at the same time, sending them off with the same ailment descriptions to 4 different labs and all results coming back with different analyses most readily treatable by what they were selling. That disturbed me no end. I would have thought that at least 2 of the 4 would have come up with something similar. Absolutely NONE of them came up with mercury levels and at the time, I had 7 amalgam fillings. One found cobalt, one found aluminum, one was sure I was iron deficient and the other showed I had significantly too much iron. Strange considering it was all from the same hair trimming off the back of my head. I have not had the heart or desire, for that matter, to retest and see what happens the second time around. Regards, Bruce Guilmette, PhD Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc. Http://survivecancer.net Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV) From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of mbrookh Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:49 PM low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: T-cells/ALA Bruce, I've grown accustomed to Cutler's protocol, low and slow. He recommends 1/8-1/2 mg/lb of DMSA or ALA or in combination. If ALA is in the mix, he recommends giving it every 3 hours around the clock for 3 days and then rest for as long a time. Most cycles are 3 days on/4 off or 3 days on/11 off. The 3 hours is based on the half life of the medicine in the body[much like antibiotic dosing]. When only DMSA is used, the recommended time frame is every 4 hours for the 3 days; also based on the half life of DMSA. He suggests these time frames for the transdermal forms too,which are now popular with children. DMPS and EDTA have their own recommendations. Due to his firm conviction that chelators are dangerous when given with such potent sources of toxins like mercury fillings in the body, he says never to chelate in those circumstances. While you may see metals excreting in large amounts, you may also see large redistributions. see: Cutler, , Amalgam Illness; Diagnosis and Treatment Cutler, , Hair Test Interpretation; Finding Hidden Toxicities I have no knowledge of ALA efficacy in cancer treatment, but I personally would never use it in any form[plain, combination vitamin] with mercury tooth fillings. I surely appreciate what you are saying re immune function. That is what drew me to this board. Our daughter is currently using ldn to boost immune function that was trashed by heavy metal poisoning from vaccines. > ALA (alpha lipoic acid) at about 600 mgs per day and Ester C to > > bowel tolerance daily for a month along with the liver flush. I > would then > > maintain the Ester C at 4,000+ mgs per day past the first month. > >> > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Bruce Guilmette, PhD > > > > Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc. > > > > <http://survivecancer.net> Http://survivecancer.net > > > > Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry > about itself. > > Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV) > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: low dose naltrexone > > [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Aristidis > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:41 AM > > low dose naltrexone > > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] T-cells > > > > > > > > Hi every one > > I'm in the group for 15 months and I never come across to the > matter > > of T-cells. > > Since I was diagnosed, I'm fighting to bring those in to balance, > and > > use LDN for this purpose. Not seeing any mention of this, I'm > > wondering if I do the right treatment. I'm having tests for T- > cells > > every month, and I see no improvement. Any comment will be > > helpful. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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