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[Guest guest]

Note to : the " serious virus " is a hoax. Your post caused a lot of

folks on this list to delete windows files from their operating systems.

Please check in the future to be sure before you scare us to death. If you

deleted it. it can be restored. Mal

[Guest guest]

Teressa from Louisiiana:

I am sorry that you don't have the family support, that you should have, from your husband. Do you think he is scared himself? I hope you have an extendended family to help you with your illness. My 22 year old daughter-in-law has this illness, she was diagnosed in March of this year. It saddens my heart to know that you don't have your husband their for support. I think some men shy away from illnesses. My husband used to. They don't understand it hurts us when they don't support us or talk to us about things. I hope things get better for you!! Our prayers are with you.

Beckie from Texas

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> From: " andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler@...>

> Subject: Re: hello/intro/Question

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> I think most parents are interested in getting their child as well as

> they can. That is what I am talking about. I guarantee every single

> one of those parents would be quite happy if their child made MORE

> progress in LESS time. I also guarantee that all the ones whose

> child got WORSE wish their child had gotten BETTER instead.

We actually agree on something here....I think parents would love that- but

there is no guarantee on any protocol that this will happen. That is my

point. Chelation can be dangerous regardless of what dosing you are using.

The DAN! protocol is not any more dangerous than any other. I am not

saying your idea of what is correct with chelation is wrong. All I am asking

is that you quit the DAN! bashing. As a parent , I am greatful to the many

doctors that have taken the time to help figure all this out.

> I am glad you are one of the lucky ones. I wish everyone was.

Sure, you can call us lucky- but it hasn't been without bumps in the road...

and we started this whole thing pretty much doing what you suggested.. the

dan! protocol at that time was every four hours.. and supplements spread out

throughout the day. BUT we still had some problems!!! With every child it

is a matter of what that particular child can tolerate. I have heard story

after story after story of kids who do wonderfully on one supplement- and

many others who regress and don't do worth a squat. Until things are

changed around.. sometimes to a four hour dosing and sometimes to an eight.

> > ,

> > > It is dangerous and potentially extremely harmful. See assorted

> > posts

> > > on list by parents whose child had a bad experience of it.

I feel as if we are not getting anywhere here.. you contradict yourself !

Why is it that the many people that do so well on the DAN! protocol are

'lucky' and the ones who do well on your protocol are not?

As I said in the previous posts... I think we can find just as many posts

from people who have done chelation the way you recommend that have had just

as many bad reactions.. because your way is horible ? NO, because chelation

in itself can be dangerous- and does cause some regression sometimes before

you start seeing progress.

> Understanding that it

> is risky, poorly understood,

True. we agree again.

>nd that 'testimonials' for one or

> another protocol need to be considered as the people who GOT LUCKY

> with that protocol, and the odds evaluated for each possible approach

> is what people need to do if they are to give their child the best

> chance of improvement.

So you ARE saying that people that use your protocol and do well, have '

GOTTEN LUCKY'. Hmmm....

> And russian roulette is a really fun game 5 times out of 6. It's

> still not a good idea to play it.

But your chelation protocol doesn't fall under this category? IT;s not

russian roulette? BUt you just said it was risky and dangerous... And I

don't think any parent feels they are playing this game with their child's

health. We are not stupid.. we may not all have chemistry degrees, but I

know that we, as parents know more about autism and it's potential causes

than ANY one else.. We do our research and we read the posts from other

parents.. good and bad. And in the end, we make our decisions. Smart,

educated decisions that should not be belittled by others.. we are in tough

, tough places and deserve better.

> I don't understand the " my way or the highway " remark. I am not the

> list moderator and don't throw people off, and even if I was I

> wouldn't throw people off just for disagreeing. I don't refuse to

> answer people's questions if they are choosing to do something else.

> I am not nasty to them and I do not tell them they are bad for doing

> it " wrong " if they choose to do something else. I simply repeat the

> best information I have in response to the very numerous relevant

> questions or posts promoting other protocols. I don't see why this

> is any more distressing to you than the fact that some advocate every

> 8 hour dosing is to me. I am simply persistent in conveying what I

> know and what I think on the list.

Oh, but you do have that attitude. I know you don't have the authority to

kick anyone off.and I do know you like a good discussion. I have seen you

many times post a snide remark here and there...saying things like " sure,

you can do it X way, if you want to do your kid serious harm'. Now, that

is not telling them they are 'bad', no. But it is telling them they are bad

parents! I have been on this list for over a year- and I haven't said much-

I watch you post and if I think it's too over the top, then I email that

person privately. Maybe I should have stuck to that policy!

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

Maranie

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> > I think most parents are interested in getting their child as

well as

> > they can. That is what I am talking about. I guarantee every

single

> > one of those parents would be quite happy if their child made MORE

> > progress in LESS time. I also guarantee that all the ones whose

> > child got WORSE wish their child had gotten BETTER instead.

>

> We actually agree on something here....

It is nice we can find some common ground.

>I think parents would love that- but

> there is no guarantee on any protocol that this will happen.

I agree with that, too. Including what I suggest.

>That is my

> point. Chelation can be dangerous regardless of what dosing you

are using.

We also agree on this.

> The DAN! protocol is not any more dangerous than any other.

We disagree on this, and the numbers as readily verified by anyone

who checks the archives, do support my point of view on this.

>I am not

> saying your idea of what is correct with chelation is wrong. All I

am asking

> is that you quit the DAN! bashing.

Actually I am not bashing them, I am offering reasonable criticism.

I do know how to bash people or organizations and I assure you I am

WAY far from the line where that would be a reasonable description of

what I have to say about them.

>As a parent , I am greatful to the many

> doctors that have taken the time to help figure all this out.

BTW, I gather your kid is one of the ones who does well on the every

8 hour protocol. Have you tried both the 8 and the 4 hour approach

and found every 8 better for your child, or did you start with every

8 and stick with it?

I presume from your discussion of the doctors being flexible with the

DAN! protocol, and from where you live, that you must be seeing Dr.

Amy Holmes. She is the only one I have heard of being at all

flexible about it. I have heard of others threatening to discharge

patients if they use the 4 instead of 8 hour protocol.

Andy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/23/03 2:08:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

camlo2k@... writes:

> Did the surgeon mention if he had the thymus gland. I`m not sure

> how much thymic tissue would still be there at his age though.

>

Hi Carol,

I was told that his Thymus was removed during the repair at seven months of

age. It has been explained to me that it isn't functional for more than the

first few years of life. But I have my doubts. What do you think?? I can't

help but wonder if this has contributed to 's immune status?

Sandi

[Guest guest]

Sandi, that is fantastic news, what a relief, give him a big hug from me. By

the way, I know has been tested for Di and the FISH test was

negative. Did the surgeon mention if he had the thymus gland. I`m not sure

how much thymic tissue would still be there at his age though.

Take care

Carol

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[Guest guest]

Ok..... call me late here, but I live in PA and I have posed this same question,

regarding the transfer rights of an existing IEP from one state to another, to

the school officials and was told that they do follow the current IEP until

another one can be set in it's place. Not EVERY school district in PA follows

the " guidelines " for what I've heard stated here. Mine sure doesn't and makes

sure that they take every step necessary to ensure that the child coming to them

from another state gets all of the appropriate services and equipment that has

been provided to them in the current IEP. This is especially true if the school

district doesn't want to deal with non-compliance issues with IDEA and due

process. I guess maybe there are some school districts that care more than

others.

Judi Scarpelli mom to Jordan and an

Independent Avon Sales Rep

717-854-5092

www.youravon.com/jscarpelli

Message: 1

Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:41:03 -0400

From: " Di " <drf218@...>

Subject: Re: Update on & IEP--Long

I was just reading our state's reg on that (PA). It says if a student is moving

to a new school within the state the current IEP is in effect. If the child is

transferring from another state they can be placed in a reg ed classroom with no

IEP until a new one is written. I guess the key word in the reg is " MAY " .

14.131 IEP

(4) If a student with a disability moves into a school district in this

Commonwealth from another state, the new school district may treat the student

as a new enrollee and place the student into regular education and it is not

required to implement the student's existing IEP.

Di

[Guest guest]

I think the regs quoted violate FAPE and I bet a good lawyer could have a doozie

of a case!!

Cheryl in VA (I thought VA and MA were the only Commonwealths in the USA!)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/2/05 8:45:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

>

> Hello out there. Sooo whats everyone doing? Sooo quiet here. Hope

> this snow goes away sooon! This is unbelievable. Well I can

> believe it, just dont like it! LOL

> Anyway, just wanted to say hey!

>

>

HI there! Snow, what snow??? (My dh just loves snowblowing the back yard so

the dogs can do their business! It looks like a maze out there with the

paths.)

I finally made some more CP soap last week. I made 4 batches of 20 bars

each, and unfortunately, had a little mishap with one batch.

While I was pouring the lye water into the oils, I splashed a little on my

goggles-Thank God I always wear goggles! A gentle reminder to all of us that

splashes can happen anytime. Anyway, I set the pitcher down and went into the

bathroom to use the mirror to be sure all was ok. And it was. But when I went

back to the sink, I proceeded to add tap water and dish soap to the pitcher

to start it cleaning while I stirred the soap. Then I got to

thinking......hmmm......did I empty ALL of the lye water into the oils before I

walked away???

NO. I have the most super super super fatted bars of soap now! Not enough

lye for the oils, so very soothing, but still soft. They even lather nicely,

smell great (this batch was Pearberry), but too soft. Any thoughts on what to

do with these bars? I am using one in my bathroom now......

Kae-glad you are feeling better. And how did you manage to get that coconut

oil to me so quickly, when you weren't feeling well? Geesh, if I had known, I

would have told you to wait a while to send it! :-) Your natural soaps sound

divine.....

Stay warm everyone!

:-)

Carol J

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 3/2/05 8:45:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> writes:

>

> HI there! Snow, what snow??? (My dh just loves snowblowing the

back yard so

> the dogs can do their business! It looks like a maze out there

with the

> paths.)

Hehehehe, Carol...what a visual THIS is!!!!

-Thank God I always wear goggles! A gentle reminder to all of us

that

> splashes can happen anytime.

I am soooo glad you didn't get hurt!!! I have never had a close call.

I always do the lye and water in my basement, and I kinda add it

real slowly, then hoof it away from the container. I wear glasses,

too.

> Kae-glad you are feeling better. And how did you manage to get

that coconut

> oil to me so quickly, when you weren't feeling well?

Ancient Chinese secret, Carol!! hahahahah Actually, I feel so

OBLIGATED to get everything out as quickly as I can!!! I think I did

hold a couple of orders a day, because I just couldn't fill the

orders! Actually, I pack each order separately. I don't have stuff

poured ahead, so each bottle, jar, bag, is packed fresh. Even though

it probably takes more time, I feel like I am doing each order like

a " Special Order " . It also means fewer mistakes on my end, even

though I do miss an item sometimes!!!

Kae...in sickness and health!!!! hehehehehee

[Guest guest]

Penny,

My stepsons both have very strong ASD traits (one officially with ADHD and

the other having refused to do any of the testing has been deemed most

likely HFA. My son is AS. Do I think there may be a genetic link? SURE! My

husband and I have both struggled as " misfits " our entire lives and have

learned to overcome much of what our children have struggled with.

My dad and a couple of his siblings have traits. My husband's brother also

has some traits (we don't know many of his extended relatives because they

are thought to be " anti-social " , which may mean that they just don't know

how to deal with social situations) Some of my cousins have kids that have

traits and they are in the process or are thinking about testing.

The one thing that I would definitely say is that the " unable to achieve,

succeed or cope in the adult world " does not apply to my family. Though none

with traits have taken political or social interacting jobs, the structure

of higher education was well received and most have gotten their degrees and

are successfully employed (though maybe not at the same level as someone who

had the social acumen to work their way up quicker through the ranks).

Several are either teachers/professors or own their own business, and they

do quite well as they work fairly independently. Others work in the computer

programming industry, are reporters (very objective), in laboratories, or in

other science areas. The key is that they found work that wasn't highly

interactive, was highly analytical, used their " obsessions " , and challenged

them intellectually. (most of ours also combine with a higher than average

IQ).

Most of them have achieved success not through what they can say or who they

interact with, but because their work speaks for itself and often companies

want to capitalize on their ideas/abilities, regardless of whether or not

they are great communicators or have the greatest social skills. Many have

learned just to be " quiet " at work and have others assume it is a matter of

being shy. Others have chosen such independent positions that they don't

feel as bound by the social cues (such as the teachers, the self employed,

and reporters)

Anyway, I am sure there is a genetic component in ours... The odd thing is

that we are all attracted to others who " are just like us " or " who

understand the real us " . Anyway, I am glad my husband and I share the same

traits. I can really empathize with what he is going through and be patient

with him when things aren't going the way he wants them to (often due to

missed social cues. We are all still learning as we help our children to

see/understand.

Perhaps we should all migrate to California ~winks~. In all honesty, I have

four cousins that have moved down for jobs that really fit their

" personality quirks " . Perhaps CA is just more accepting of oddness and so it

attracts those with AS!!!

~hugs~

Rabecca

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kathy. I will try to start up the exercise

again. Only I will start this time with only a minute

or two for weeks, so I won't overdue. What stinks is

that sometimes 2 minutes is too much. I can do it at

the time, but later that night and next day start

limping and dragging leg worse. I will keep you

posted. Thanks

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> 1. Re: INTERFERON versus LDN

> From: " cshackl1 " <cshackl1@...>

> 2. Re: Re: Shooting Pains in Head

> From: " topknotyorkies "

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> 3. Re: Shooting Pains in Head

> From: " topknotyorkies "

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> 4. Wheelchair reviews

> From: ahchapman@...

> 5. Re: Shooting Pains in Head

> From: " topknotyorkies "

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> 6. Re: Re: Shooting Pains in Head

> From: " LarryGC " <larrygc@...>

> 7. Re: INTERFERON versus LDN

> From: " cshackl1 " <cshackl1@...>

> 8. Re: INTERFERON versus LDN

> From: " cshackl1 " <cshackl1@...>

> 9. INTERFERON versus LDN

> From: " cshackl1 " <cshackl1@...>

> 10. Re: INTERFERON versus LDN

> From: " cshackl1 " <cshackl1@...>

> 11. Re: Stomach Problems!!!

> From: Sims

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> 12. Re: Re: Shooting Pains in Head

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> 13. Re: OFF TOPIC

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> 14. Re: Hey Hi everyone

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> 15. Re: Hey Hi everyone

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> 16. RE: Re: Hey Hi everyone

> From: " RaeAndDoug Bower "

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> 17. Re: Re:Fibro and LDN

> From: " ANITA PHILLIPS "

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> 18. Re: Hey Hi everyone

> From: " Anri Nadia " <anrinadia@...>

> 19. Re: Re: Hey Hi everyone

> From: chris bowes

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> 20. Re: Re:Fibro and LDN

> From: Marg & Tony Senger

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> 21. Re: Digest Number 1841

> From: keith kowalis <wescokk@...>

> 22. Re: Digest Number 1841

> From: " mykittypaws "

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> 23. RE: Leg orthodics

> From: " RaeAndDoug Bower "

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> 24. Re:Fibro and LDN

> From: " dockeydoo " <mccarthycp@...>

> 25. off topic- mercury and MS

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[Guest guest]

Rae, thanks to you too for your advise. I'm about

ready for that brace. I was hoping LDN might help

enough that I wouldn't need it, but I don't know now.

Has your toe drop or leg drag, tripping etc, got

better from the brace and LDN or just the brace?

Thanks again

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> There are 25 messages in this issue.

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> 1. Re: INTERFERON versus LDN

> From: " cshackl1 " <cshackl1@...>

> 2. Re: Re: Shooting Pains in Head

> From: " topknotyorkies "

> <topknotyorkies@...>

> 3. Re: Shooting Pains in Head

> From: " topknotyorkies "

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> 4. Wheelchair reviews

> From: ahchapman@...

> 5. Re: Shooting Pains in Head

> From: " topknotyorkies "

> <topknotyorkies@...>

> 6. Re: Re: Shooting Pains in Head

> From: " LarryGC " <larrygc@...>

> 7. Re: INTERFERON versus LDN

> From: " cshackl1 " <cshackl1@...>

> 8. Re: INTERFERON versus LDN

> From: " cshackl1 " <cshackl1@...>

> 9. INTERFERON versus LDN

> From: " cshackl1 " <cshackl1@...>

> 10. Re: INTERFERON versus LDN

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> 11. Re: Stomach Problems!!!

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> 12. Re: Re: Shooting Pains in Head

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> 13. Re: OFF TOPIC

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> 14. Re: Hey Hi everyone

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> 16. RE: Re: Hey Hi everyone

> From: " RaeAndDoug Bower "

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> 17. Re: Re:Fibro and LDN

> From: " ANITA PHILLIPS "

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> 18. Re: Hey Hi everyone

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> 20. Re: Re:Fibro and LDN

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> 24. Re:Fibro and LDN

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> Hi All, A good site on the web to read a variety of

> reviews on various

> types of wheelchairs and scooters is

> usatechguide.org This is kind of a starter

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[Guest guest]

Definitely. If you want to stop tripping/falling, get a leg brace.

Rae

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[Guest guest]

You might also consider whether it's time you got a cane/arm crutch?

Rae

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[Guest guest]

does anyone have PD and experience with LDN? If so, how are you doing?

[low dose naltrexone] Stomach Problems!!!>> Hi everyone, I would like to know is anyone having like stomach pains> from using the naltrexone..my stomach is starting to hurt like every> other day, I don't know what it could be, if anyone else is having the> same problem can someone please tell me what it could or might be!!> Thanks in advance for your help!!>> >>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

There are some people that Dr. Bihari has worked with that have PD. You can find that info on his web site at http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/

We have so many people with MS on this chat site and many are helped with LDN. Unfortunately we don't have a lot of those with PD from which to draw info from. I will send you some earlier saved chats of others with PD on LDN, but they are only a few. My mother has PD and she is on the "glutathione drug" which has really turned her around. But, it is expensive and she dose not do as well once they taper her back a lot.

I would say that it is totally worth trying LDN, as it won't hurt you, it is inexpensive, and there is no other way to know if it will help or not, except to try it. It has been nothing short of a miracle for my husbands MS. Anyways take a look at the earlier chats that I am sending you separately from others and PD and see if they help.

Kindest of regards

Aletha

[low dose naltrexone] Stomach Problems!!!>> Hi everyone, I would like to know is anyone having like stomach pains> from using the naltrexone..my stomach is starting to hurt like every> other day, I don't know what it could be, if anyone else is having the> same problem can someone please tell me what it could or might be!!> Thanks in advance for your help!!>> >>>>>>>>>

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Try pool exercise or use a cooling vest. If you consistently exercise even

if it is very short duration, eventually your body should strengthen and the

added oxygen should energize and make you feel so much better. I don't know

what you take for supplements but ferulic acid, alpha lipoic acid, EFA's,

curcumin complex with pepper, luteolin and a great multi would be good for

you in some combination of whatever your lifestyle allows. Try to add a new

product at certain intervals so you will know what is helping or have a good

idea. Best wishes, Kathy

INTERFERON versus LDN

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