Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

[Guest guest]

I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with coconut oil so as

to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do that. Though I have heard

that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries out my application fingers. So

that is how I use it and it works just fine that way.

----- Original Message -----

Hello...

1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the water I use

be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or medical supply or plain old

distilled water available at most stores. I see Janet commented on another BBS

that the water in RIMSO-50 is not you garden variety distilled water. So this

opened a Pandora's Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified "

water out there I don't know what to do.

2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't stay sterile

for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is exposed to air and is

recommended to be used immediately and to discard the rest.

3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30 solutions of

DSMO available (including at labs) say they have a shelf life of up to 5

years??

[Guest guest]

I make Brook's mix of 75% Distilled water (or colloidal silver), 15%

glycerine, and 10% DMSO. Sometimes I make a stronger ratio of DMSO

for really hurting joints. To get around the dried-out application

fingers, and also to prevent whatever might be on my fingers from

getting delivered into my skin, I put whatever mix I've made into

1oz, glass roll-on bottles I get on eBay. This is a very tidy way of

applying, especially if you're out and about and also, if you're

using some other staining substance like Lugol's or just very pricey

stuff like Argan oil, there's much less waste.

Be well,

Léna

I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with coconut

oil so as to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do that.

Though I have heard that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries

out my application fingers. So that is how I use it and it works just

fine that way.

----- Original Message -----

Hello...

1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most stores.

I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water out

there I don't know what to do.

2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is exposed

to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard the

rest.

3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30

solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they have a

shelf life of up to 5 years??

[Guest guest]

Lena,

the roll on bottles that you get on E-bay--do they have plastic

rollers or metal rollers? Any danger in stuff leaching out of the

plastic rollers?

mara

> I make Brook's mix of 75% Distilled water (or colloidal silver), 15%

> glycerine, and 10% DMSO. Sometimes I make a stronger ratio of DMSO

> for really hurting joints. To get around the dried-out application

> fingers, and also to prevent whatever might be on my fingers from

> getting delivered into my skin, I put whatever mix I've made into

> 1oz, glass roll-on bottles I get on eBay. This is a very tidy way of

> applying, especially if you're out and about and also, if you're

> using some other staining substance like Lugol's or just very pricey

> stuff like Argan oil, there's much less waste.

> Be well,

> Léna

>

>

> I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with coconut

> oil so as to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do that.

> Though I have heard that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries

> out my application fingers. So that is how I use it and it works just

> fine that way.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

> Hello...

>

> 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

> water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

> medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most stores.

> I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

> not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

> Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water out

> there I don't know what to do.

>

> 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

> stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is exposed

> to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard the

> rest.

>

> 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30

> solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they have a

> shelf life of up to 5 years??

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mara,

The ones I got have glass balls, and their housing, though plastic, I

think would be even more negligible than the plastic bottles the DMSO

originally came in. I've experienced no problem with them.

So many of the issues I have are helped by frequent application and

this definitely makes that easier.

Léna

Lena,

the roll on bottles that you get on E-bay--do they have plastic

rollers or metal rollers? Any danger in stuff leaching out of the

plastic rollers?

mara

> I make Brook's mix of 75% Distilled water (or colloidal silver), 15%

> glycerine, and 10% DMSO. Sometimes I make a stronger ratio of DMSO

> for really hurting joints. To get around the dried-out application

> fingers, and also to prevent whatever might be on my fingers from

> getting delivered into my skin, I put whatever mix I've made into

> 1oz, glass roll-on bottles I get on eBay. This is a very tidy way of

> applying, especially if you're out and about and also, if you're

> using some other staining substance like Lugol's or just very pricey

> stuff like Argan oil, there's much less waste.

> Be well,

> Léna

>

>

> I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with coconut

> oil so as to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do that.

> Though I have heard that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries

> out my application fingers. So that is how I use it and it works just

> fine that way.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

> Hello...

>

> 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

> water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

> medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most stores.

> I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

> not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

> Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water out

> there I don't know what to do.

>

> 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

> stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is exposed

> to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard the

> rest.

>

> 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30

> solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they have a

> shelf life of up to 5 years??

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mara,

Can you give me a link to the eBay location where you purchased this

roller bottles?

[Guest guest]

,

It was Lena who purchased the bottles.

I'd like the link too!

Mara

> Hi Mara,

>

> Can you give me a link to the eBay location where you purchased this

> roller bottles?

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> List Home Page:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>

> Books:

> DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton

> MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton,

> ND

[Guest guest]

DMSO will not carry in organisms even as small as a virus because they

exceed the 1,000 Dalton size limitation. So if that is your concern you

needn't worry about DMSO carrying in microbes.

I use distilled water or Colloidal Silver that I make from distilled water.

My distilled water is not made in a sterile environment. But there are not

any chemicals floating around in the air where I make it. I wash the

storage jars but again do not sterilize them. Just keep it free of toxic

chems, which I do not keep in my home any way.

The distilled water at Wahlgreens is widely used by those in CS community

as being acceptable pure. www.silverlist.org is a good resource if you want

to discuss this.

RO water is fine if you change your filters regularly. Same with carbon

filtered,

but if bacteria has grown from lack of maintenance, and it will, you could

have bacterial toxins. That's why I like distilled.

DMSO stand alone is antimicrobial so in strong solution I would think

there is

less likelihood that while stored it is going to grow anything. I have

never seen

any evidence of microbial growth in DMSO I have had for years, even

opened for

years.

You could write to Lab and ask them about their shelf life claims

and see

what sort of answer you get. Please post it to the list if you do.

Thanks,

Janet

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

> Hello...

>

> 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

> water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

> medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most stores.

> I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

> not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

> Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water out

> there I don't know what to do.

>

> 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

> stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is exposed

> to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard the

> rest.

>

> 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30

> solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they have a

> shelf life of up to 5 years??

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If I needed more of these roll-ons now, I'd have to go to eBay, enter

'1oz glass roll-on bottles', and keep my fingers crossed. My last

computer crash wiped other info. Sorry. They often also have .3

bottles (perfume size) so note the capacity carefully before buying.

Be well,

Léna

,

It was Lena who purchased the bottles.

I'd like the link too!

Mara

> Hi Mara,

>

> Can you give me a link to the eBay location where you purchased this

> roller bottles?

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> List Home Page:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>

> Books:

> DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton

> MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton,

> ND

[Guest guest]

Hi Lena,

I did that, but all I find are glass bottles with plastic or metal

rollers. Will keep trying.

thanks,

mara

> If I needed more of these roll-ons now, I'd have to go to eBay, enter

> '1oz glass roll-on bottles', and keep my fingers crossed. My last

> computer crash wiped other info. Sorry. They often also have .3

> bottles (perfume size) so note the capacity carefully before buying.

> Be well,

> Léna

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, that's the way with eBay. Timing and trying is everything. L

Hi Lena,

I did that, but all I find are glass bottles with plastic or metal

rollers. Will keep trying.

thanks,

mara

> If I needed more of these roll-ons now, I'd have to go to eBay, enter

> '1oz glass roll-on bottles', and keep my fingers crossed. My last

> computer crash wiped other info. Sorry. They often also have .3

> bottles (perfume size) so note the capacity carefully before buying.

> Be well,

> Léna

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would like to add: Do you take it topically or orally and why not dilute

with an alcohol like vodka?

BOB

I would like to see some FYI'S in the files section.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:31 PM, showhostlarry wrote:

> **

>

>

> Hello...

>

> I'm new here and joined because i am about to use DMSO for the first time

> (topically) on my feet to see if I can get relief from the pain and

> inflammation associated with neuromas.

>

> I have a few questions I hope some people can answer which I've had no luck

> finding in extensive Internet searches.

>

> I bought 99.98% DMSO from lab because I wanted to try it at different

> " strengths " by diluting it with various ratios of DMSO/water. My questions

> are:

>

> 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the water I

> use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or medical supply or

> plain old distilled water available at most stores. I see Janet commented on

> another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is not you garden variety distilled

> water. So this opened a Pandora's Box of confusion as there are so many

> types of " purified " water out there I don't know what to do.

>

> 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't stay

> sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is exposed to air and

> is recommended to be used immediately and to discard the rest.

>

> 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30

> solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they have a shelf

> life of up to 5 years??

>

> Thanks for info you can provide to enlighten me on this.

>

> Showhost

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lena,

I would love to get hold of those glass bottles with glass ball roll-ons. Which

vendor do you buy from? It is hard to tell from pictures alone so i hope you

don't mind sharing the vendor.

Thanks.

> >

> > I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with coconut

> > oil so as to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do that.

> > Though I have heard that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries

> > out my application fingers. So that is how I use it and it works just

> > fine that way.

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> >

> >

> > Hello...

> >

> > 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

> > water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

> > medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most stores.

> > I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

> > not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

> > Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water out

> > there I don't know what to do.

> >

> > 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

> > stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is exposed

> > to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard the

> > rest.

> >

> > 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30

> > solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they have a

> > shelf life of up to 5 years??

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Janet,

Thanks for this info. I always worried what i am making the DMSO carry into my

system. I would comfort myself not to worry as it is antimicrobial. LOL

I also wish to say that unfortunately the horse farm DMSO smells stronger, i

find it more potent than those with no smell DMSO found in the internet. I

transfer them into gallon jars immediately when i get home. I was so afraid the

FDA might clump on the DMSO that i bought a second gallon. My first gallon is

only half gallon now and it is 3 years old, and i think it is still potent.

Does this have a shelf life?

Take care.

>

> DMSO will not carry in organisms even as small as a virus because they

> exceed the 1,000 Dalton size limitation. So if that is your concern you

> needn't worry about DMSO carrying in microbes.

>

> I use distilled water or Colloidal Silver that I make from distilled water.

> My distilled water is not made in a sterile environment. But there are not

> any chemicals floating around in the air where I make it. I wash the

> storage jars but again do not sterilize them. Just keep it free of toxic

> chems, which I do not keep in my home any way.

>

> The distilled water at Wahlgreens is widely used by those in CS community

> as being acceptable pure. www.silverlist.org is a good resource if you want

> to discuss this.

>

> RO water is fine if you change your filters regularly. Same with carbon

> filtered,

> but if bacteria has grown from lack of maintenance, and it will, you could

> have bacterial toxins. That's why I like distilled.

>

> DMSO stand alone is antimicrobial so in strong solution I would think

> there is

> less likelihood that while stored it is going to grow anything. I have

> never seen

> any evidence of microbial growth in DMSO I have had for years, even

> opened for

> years.

>

> You could write to Lab and ask them about their shelf life claims

> and see

> what sort of answer you get. Please post it to the list if you do.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janet

[Guest guest]

My reply earlier today in this forum:

If I needed more of these roll-ons now, I'd have to go to eBay, enter

'1oz glass roll-on bottles', and keep my fingers crossed. My last

computer crash wiped other info. Sorry. They often also have .3

bottles (perfume size) so note the capacity carefully before buying.

Be well,

Léna

SaraLou posted later in the group with this. (I hope it's aright to

quote)

I've always found the SKS bottle people http://www.sks-science.com/ to

be very responsive. If they don't have what you want they usually tell

you someplace else to look....but you have to call/email them.

http://birchhillhappenings.com/bottles.htm ..........has a 1 oz but

it's priced a little high.

http://www.nematinternational.com/products/pop_window.php?id=285 & popup=2

.........much better price

http://www.aroma-center.com/home/ar1/

page_728_40/1_oz_glass_rollon_bottle_with_black_cap.html

.....ok price

I'm sure there are more places to buy on the web but here are two for

less than 70¢ each including the cap --not including S & H

To search further, look at soap/cosmetic/toiletries suppliers.

Saralou

Lena,

I would love to get hold of those glass bottles with glass ball roll-

ons. Which vendor do you buy from? It is hard to tell from pictures

alone so i hope you don't mind sharing the vendor.

Thanks.

> >

> > I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with

coconut

> > oil so as to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do

that.

> > Though I have heard that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries

> > out my application fingers. So that is how I use it and it works

just

> > fine that way.

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> >

> >

> > Hello...

> >

> > 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

> > water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

> > medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most

stores.

> > I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

> > not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

> > Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water out

> > there I don't know what to do.

> >

> > 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

> > stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is

exposed

> > to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard the

> > rest.

> >

> > 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30

> > solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they

have a

> > shelf life of up to 5 years??

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Mara....I've not seen roll-on bottles that have glass rollers. Usually

it's a non-reactive plastic/teflon. It is possible you can find a

marble that's the perfect size and use it instead of the plastic ball.

Lena...Of course it's ok to quote from the forum to the forum... and I

personally don't care if quoted elsewhere unless you and I are having a

personal near-private conversation. I consider nothing on the internet

to be private no matter how much I'd like it to be so.

Saralou

Subject: Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:37:16 -0400

From:

Mara Miles

Hi Lena,

I did that, but all I find are glass bottles with plastic or metal

rollers. Will keep trying.

thanks,

mara

--- Re: Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:36:09 -0400

My reply earlier today in this forum:

If I needed more of these roll-ons now, I'd have to go to eBay, enter

'1oz glass roll-on bottles', and keep my fingers crossed. My last

computer crash wiped other info. Sorry. They often also have .3

bottles (perfume size) so note the capacity carefully before buying.

Be well,

Léna

SaraLou posted later in the group with this. (I hope it's aright to

quote)

I've always found the SKS bottle people http://www.sks-science.com/ to

be very responsive. If they don't have what you want they usually tell

you someplace else to look....but you have to call/email them.

http://birchhillhappenings.com/bottles.htm ..........has a 1 oz but

it's priced a little high.

http://www.nematinternational.com/products/pop_window.php?id=285 & popup=2

.........much better price

http://www.aroma-center.com/home/ar1/

page_728_40/1_oz_glass_rollon_bottle_with_black_cap.html

.....ok price

I'm sure there are more places to buy on the web but here are two for

less than 70¢ each including the cap --not including S & H

To search further, look at soap/cosmetic/toiletries suppliers.

Saralou

Lena,

I would love to get hold of those glass bottles with glass ball roll-

ons. Which vendor do you buy from? It is hard to tell from pictures

alone so i hope you don't mind sharing the vendor.

Thanks.

> >

> > I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with

coconut

> > oil so as to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do

that.

> > Though I have heard that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries

> > out my application fingers. So that is how I use it and it works

just

> > fine that way.

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> >

> >

> > Hello...

> >

> > 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

> > water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

> > medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most

stores.

> > I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

> > not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

> > Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water out

> > there I don't know what to do.

> >

> > 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

> > stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is

exposed

> > to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard the

> > rest.

> >

> > 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30

> > solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they

have a

> > shelf life of up to 5 years??

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, SaraLou,

I just wanted to help pass your good info on. I really liked the

links you provided and have kept them for future use.

Be well,

Léna

Mara....I've not seen roll-on bottles that have glass rollers. Usually

it's a non-reactive plastic/teflon. It is possible you can find a

marble that's the perfect size and use it instead of the plastic ball.

Lena...Of course it's ok to quote from the forum to the forum... and I

personally don't care if quoted elsewhere unless you and I are having a

personal near-private conversation. I consider nothing on the internet

to be private no matter how much I'd like it to be so.

Saralou

Subject: Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:37:16 -0400

From:

Mara Miles

Hi Lena,

I did that, but all I find are glass bottles with plastic or metal

rollers. Will keep trying.

thanks,

mara

--- Re: Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:36:09 -0400

My reply earlier today in this forum:

If I needed more of these roll-ons now, I'd have to go to eBay, enter

'1oz glass roll-on bottles', and keep my fingers crossed. My last

computer crash wiped other info. Sorry. They often also have .3

bottles (perfume size) so note the capacity carefully before buying.

Be well,

Léna

SaraLou posted later in the group with this. (I hope it's aright to

quote)

I've always found the SKS bottle people http://www.sks-science.com/ to

be very responsive. If they don't have what you want they usually tell

you someplace else to look....but you have to call/email them.

http://birchhillhappenings.com/bottles.htm ..........has a 1 oz but

it's priced a little high.

http://www.nematinternational.com/products/pop_window.php?id=285 & popup=2

.........much better price

http://www.aroma-center.com/home/ar1/

page_728_40/1_oz_glass_rollon_bottle_with_black_cap.html

.....ok price

I'm sure there are more places to buy on the web but here are two for

less than 70¢ each including the cap --not including S & H

To search further, look at soap/cosmetic/toiletries suppliers.

Saralou

Lena,

I would love to get hold of those glass bottles with glass ball roll-

ons. Which vendor do you buy from? It is hard to tell from pictures

alone so i hope you don't mind sharing the vendor.

Thanks.

> >

> > I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with

coconut

> > oil so as to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do

that.

> > Though I have heard that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries

> > out my application fingers. So that is how I use it and it works

just

> > fine that way.

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> >

> >

> > Hello...

> >

> > 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

> > water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

> > medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most

stores.

> > I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

> > not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

> > Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water out

> > there I don't know what to do.

> >

> > 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

> > stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is

exposed

> > to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard the

> > rest.

> >

> > 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30

> > solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they

have a

> > shelf life of up to 5 years??

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Gang...

I'm the original poster of this query and since I posted I've been looking for

appropriate roll-on applicators and have founf this:

http://www.pumpking.com/rollon.htm

These are High-Density Polyethylene bottles with Polypropolene cap and balls.

All of these materials are inert and don not react with DMSO. Should do the

trick for people want a roll-on applicator.

Showhost

PS Thank you Janet for addressing the questions I asked and not getting

sidetracked with peripheral topics

>

> Hello...

>

> I'm new here and joined because i am about to use DMSO for the first time

(topically) on my feet to see if I can get relief from the pain and inflammation

associated with neuromas.

>

> I have a few questions I hope some people can answer which I've had no luck

finding in extensive Internet searches.

>

> I bought 99.98% DMSO from lab because I wanted to try it at different

" strengths " by diluting it with various ratios of DMSO/water. My questions are:

>

> 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the water I

use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or medical supply or plain

old distilled water available at most stores. I see Janet commented on another

BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is not you garden variety distilled water. So

this opened a Pandora's Box of confusion as there are so many types of

" purified " water out there I don't know what to do.

>

> 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't stay sterile

for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is exposed to air and is

recommended to be used immediately and to discard the rest.

>

> 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the 70/30 solutions

of DSMO available (including at labs) say they have a shelf life of up to 5

years??

>

> Thanks for info you can provide to enlighten me on this.

>

> Showhost

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! That is what I have found. Do you think it better to have

the plastic rollers or a metal roller with DMSO?

mara

>

> Mara....I've not seen roll-on bottles that have glass rollers. Usually

> it's a non-reactive plastic/teflon. It is possible you can find a

> marble that's the perfect size and use it instead of the plastic ball.

>

> Lena...Of course it's ok to quote from the forum to the forum... and I

> personally don't care if quoted elsewhere unless you and I are

> having a

> personal near-private conversation. I consider nothing on the internet

> to be private no matter how much I'd like it to be so.

>

> Saralou

>

> Subject: Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:37:16 -0400

> From:

> Mara Miles

>

> Hi Lena,

>

> I did that, but all I find are glass bottles with plastic or metal

> rollers. Will keep trying.

> thanks,

> mara

> --- Re: Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:36:09 -0400

>

>

> My reply earlier today in this forum:

> If I needed more of these roll-ons now, I'd have to go to eBay, enter

> '1oz glass roll-on bottles', and keep my fingers crossed. My last

> computer crash wiped other info. Sorry. They often also have .3

> bottles (perfume size) so note the capacity carefully before buying.

> Be well,

> Léna

>

> SaraLou posted later in the group with this. (I hope it's aright to

> quote)

> I've always found the SKS bottle people http://www.sks-science.com/ to

> be very responsive. If they don't have what you want they usually tell

> you someplace else to look....but you have to call/email them.

>

> http://birchhillhappenings.com/bottles.htm ..........has a 1 oz but

> it's priced a little high.

>

> http://www.nematinternational.com/products/pop_window.php?

> id=285 & popup=2

> ........much better price

>

> http://www.aroma-center.com/home/ar1/

> page_728_40/1_oz_glass_rollon_bottle_with_black_cap.html

> ....ok price

>

> I'm sure there are more places to buy on the web but here are two for

> less than 70¢ each including the cap --not including S & H

>

> To search further, look at soap/cosmetic/toiletries suppliers.

>

> Saralou

>

>

>

> Lena,

>

> I would love to get hold of those glass bottles with glass ball roll-

> ons. Which vendor do you buy from? It is hard to tell from pictures

> alone so i hope you don't mind sharing the vendor.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with

> coconut

> > > oil so as to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do

> that.

> > > Though I have heard that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries

> > > out my application fingers. So that is how I use it and it works

> just

> > > fine that way.

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello...

> > >

> > > 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

> > > water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

> > > medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most

> stores.

> > > I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

> > > not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

> > > Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water

> out

> > > there I don't know what to do.

> > >

> > > 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

> > > stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is

> exposed

> > > to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard

> the

> > > rest.

> > >

> > > 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the

> 70/30

> > > solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they

> have a

> > > shelf life of up to 5 years??

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I have one of those farm supply roll on bottles--but the bottle

itself is plastic....

mara

> Perhaps those people that SELL DMSO actually know something, as I

> purchased my roll-on DMSO at a farm supply in the horse section.

> It's roller is glass.

>

> Chuck

>

> I live in California, and my watch is three hours fast, I can't fix

> it, so I'm moving to New York.

>

>

> > Mara....

> > I've not seen roll-on bottles that have glass rollers. Usually

> > it's a

> > non-reactive plastic/teflon. It is possible you can find a

> > marble

> > that's the perfect size and use it instead of the plastic ball.

> >

> > Lena...Of course it's

> > ok to quote from the forum to the forum... and I

> > personally

> > don't care if quoted elsewhere unless you and I are having a

> > personal near-private conversation. I consider nothing on the

> internet

> > to be private no matter how much I'd

> > like it to be so.

> >

> > Saralou

> >

> >

> > Subject: Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

> > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:37:16 -0400

> > From:

> > Mara Miles

> >

> >

> > Hi Lena,

> >

> > I did that, but all I find are glass bottles with plastic or metal

> > rollers. Will keep trying.

> > thanks,

> > mara

>

[Guest guest]

Opinion only......... I've no experience; never even seen a roll-on

applicator with a metal ball. I'd use the non-reactive plastic.

As Showhost said in his/her 10/15 post, / " These are High-Density

Polyethylene bottles with Polypropolene cap and balls. All of these

materials are inert and don not react with DMSO. Should do the trick

for people want a roll-on applicator. " /

Inert is the good word here. As I understand it, metal is not inert

even if it's non-reactive with DMSO. You may not even be able to tell if

it's non-reactive with the roller-ball. There may also be something

that racts to the metal in the other stuff you're using with the DMSO.

Saralou

--- Re: Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:36:09 -0400

>

>

> My reply earlier today in this forum:

> If I needed more of these roll-ons now, I'd have to go to eBay, enter

> '1oz glass roll-on bottles', and keep my fingers crossed. My last

> computer crash wiped other info. Sorry. They often also have .3

> bottles (perfume size) so note the capacity carefully before buying.

> Be well,

> Léna

>

> SaraLou posted later in the group with this. (I hope it's aright to

> quote)

> I've always found the SKS bottle people http://www.sks-science.com/ to

> be very responsive. If they don't have what you want they usually tell

> you someplace else to look....but you have to call/email them.

>

> http://birchhillhappenings.com/bottles.htm ..........has a 1 oz but

> it's priced a little high.

>

> http://www.nematinternational.com/products/pop_window.php?

> id=285 & popup=2

> ........much better price

>

> http://www.aroma-center.com/home/ar1/

> page_728_40/1_oz_glass_rollon_bottle_with_black_cap.html

> ....ok price

>

> I'm sure there are more places to buy on the web but here are two for

> less than 70¢ each including the cap --not including S & H

>

> To search further, look at soap/cosmetic/toiletries suppliers.

>

> Saralou

>

>

>

> Lena,

>

> I would love to get hold of those glass bottles with glass ball roll-

> ons. Which vendor do you buy from? It is hard to tell from pictures

> alone so i hope you don't mind sharing the vendor.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I don't dilute with water it at all. Instead I blend it with

> coconut

> > > oil so as to avoid any drying of the skin because DMSO will do

> that.

> > > Though I have heard that it will not dry out feet, I know it dries

> > > out my application fingers. So that is how I use it and it works

> just

> > > fine that way.

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello...

> > >

> > > 1.) Since DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin, should the

> > > water I use be " sterile distilled water " purchased from a lab or

> > > medical supply or plain old distilled water available at most

> stores.

> > > I see Janet commented on another BBS that the water in RIMSO-50 is

> > > not you garden variety distilled water. So this opened a Pandora's

> > > Box of confusion as there are so many types of " purified " water

> out

> > > there I don't know what to do.

> > >

> > > 2.) If sterile water is advisable, my research reveals it doesn't

> > > stay sterile for long but begins to degrade as soon as it is

> exposed

> > > to air and is recommended to be used immediately and to discard

> the

> > > rest.

> > >

> > > 3.) If sterile water becomes degraded, how is it that all the

> 70/30

> > > solutions of DSMO available (including at labs) say they

> have a

> > > shelf life of up to 5 years??

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My two cents, too.

I am keeping my dmso/peroxide mix in two glass jars, both have metal lids, but

one I covered first with a couple layers of saran wrap to be between the dmso

and the lid. I filled the jars in the early summer or late spring.

I noticed last night that the one with just the metal lid was starting to rust

at the part that has the screwing job so it left rust spots where it touched the

mouth of the jar. On the other lid I had tried to see if plastic wrap would

protect it. That lid seems fine and the plastic wrap is not melted or in any way

looking to me like it is breaking down. But as for it being " nonreactive " I

hardly think saran wrap qualifies as nonreactive, but that is the best I could

think to do at the time.

I can't tell you what metal the lids are made from. I would just really wonder

about dmso and any metal other than maybe stainless steel, especially if it has

to touch. My dmso never touches the lids, so dmso emits fumes. I would first

find out what those metal roller balls are made from.

Lyn

>Opinion only......... I've no experience; never even seen a roll-on

>applicator with a metal ball. I'd use the non-reactive plastic.

[Guest guest]

Chuck,

What brand of roll-on DMSO do you have. Do they have website where we can

purchase?

I just checked my roll on and the roller is made of plastic.

Thanks.

> > > Mara....

> > > I've not seen roll-on bottles that have glass rollers. Usually

> > > it's a

> > > non-reactive plastic/teflon. It is possible you can find a

> > > marble

> > > that's the perfect size and use it instead of the plastic ball.

> > >

> > > Lena...Of course it's

> > > ok to quote from the forum to the forum... and I

> > > personally

> > > don't care if quoted elsewhere unless you and I are having a

> > > personal near-private conversation. I consider nothing on the

> > internet

> > > to be private no matter how much I'd

> > > like it to be so.

> > >

> > > Saralou

> > >

> > >

> > > Subject: Re: DMSO newbie needs advice on diluting.

> > > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:37:16 -0400

> > > From:

> > > Mara Miles

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Lena,

> > >

> > > I did that, but all I find are glass bottles with plastic or metal

> > > rollers. Will keep trying.

> > > thanks,

> > > mara

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For glass canning jar storage you can buy plastic screw tops. Like you, I

found even with saran wrap, the dmso rusts the metal lids, so now I use the

plastic lids on my canning jars.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I noticed last night that the one with just the metal lid was starting to

rust at the part that has the screwing job so it left rust spots where it

touched the mouth of the jar. On the other lid I had tried to see if plastic

wrap would protect it. That lid seems fine and the plastic wrap is not

melted or in any way looking to me like it is breaking down. But as for it

being " nonreactive " I hardly think saran wrap qualifies as nonreactive, but

that is the best I could think to do at the time.

[Guest guest]

I must not get out much..lol.. but I have never heard or seen plastic

screw on lids for canning jars. I do think it is a nifty idea tho. I

used to can a lot and after you 'pop' the canning lid off, a plastic

screw on cap (instead of the canning caps/lids/rings) would be real

handy. Lola

[Guest guest]

I found them at walmmart, with the canning jars. They do come in handy for

a lot of things.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I must not get out much..lol.. but I have never heard or seen plastic

screw on lids for canning jars. I do think it is a nifty idea tho. I

used to can a lot and after you 'pop' the canning lid off, a plastic

screw on cap (instead of the canning caps/lids/rings) would be real

handy. Lola