Guest guest Posted April 4, 2000 Report Share Posted April 4, 2000 OK, I can't just sit here and read these and not put in my 2 cents worth. Here is ONE of my pet peeves. When an officer tells you to " public service " a number and let them know when you have them on the line. Here is the conversation: Hello Is JQ Citizen in? This is DA DISPATCHER calling for Officer Essobbie. Yes, just a moment Hello? 2129 I have that party on the line...... Why, oh why can't they just tell you what they need and you can use your own words to find out. Just a thought.... Dana This is not the opinion of my Department, just my own, which probably stinks most of the time anyway. Doin' my duty with pride. =^!'!^= ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2000 Report Share Posted April 4, 2000 Ok another one... How about when you are talking to people at your window, answering a phone and an officer comes on the air blurting, 2125 I'll be out with blah, blah, blah at such and such....then he gets MAD if you have to ask him to repeat.... Dana This is not the opinion of my Department, just my own, which probably stinks most of the time anyway. Doin' my duty with pride. =^!'!^= ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Many things may trigger a officers " sixth sense " , dont laugh, its there believe it or not. As well as many obvious things. Its 0400, car pulls into a parking lot at a 24 hour 7-11. Driver backs car into a parking spot ifo store, passenger gets out,leaves door open, driver stays in car engine running. A car parked in a neighborhood on the officers beat. He has never seen the car befor, to him it doesnt look right. May be nothing, may be something. Suspicious Veh. Officers who work their beat can take note of things mentally and not realize it them selves. However if he drives through his area, car parked where one was never parked before, triggers his mind. Hey never saw that car here before. Suspicious Veh. And it goes on and on. Vern Retired Served Proudly Gypsy0005@... wrote: > > In a message dated 04/04/2000 3:10:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > magik@... writes: > > << And what constitutes a suspicious veh? Has it got a shady-looking > windshield...or maybe a distrustful hood ornament? Never understood > that. > Lyn >> > > ROFLMAO!!!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Regarding responders asking stupid questions (Do you have an amb E/R?, etc.) Don't you just want to respond with, " Affirmative. Do *you* have your medical equipment with you? " :-) Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 yes, looks like this is a on going problem within alot of areas. send pd out to a house fire and you get " :do you have fire in route " as much as it is tempting to say no i expexted you to put it out all by your self.. i just try to remember that, they are either on the scene or in route and thier adrelenalin is pumping, and they get excited. and i chalk it up to a temporary loss of common sense.. and then just answer their question. i even had one officer come by the center on night, after he had pulled up on a scene of a fully engulfed home and asked that question. when he came in he said i am sorry. i asked him for what ? he said that was pretty dumb of me to ask if fire was in route. i told him i chalked it up to being in the heat of the moment and not to worry about it. i did ask him to remember these words when i did something just as stupid........ and that the most important factor is we are all human... Sometimes, it is easy for us on the other side to forget that we do not have a crystal ball and can not tell what the situation is on the other end, (that works for them also) so I try to chalk it up to there must be a reason. alot less stress that way... Pattie Cherokee Co Ga - fire.ems, pd, so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Had that once on a different shift - car spontaneously combusted in parking lot. Officer asks what color is it. Response " was green, now bright yellow " Wish I had the chance to say that (although I have bitten my tounge a couple of times to keep from being mean) -patrick At 22:56 04/04/2000 -0400, Al wrote: >> > " IT's the only 2 that are bashed in...sitting in the >> parking lot " . I had a Sgt. on the road tell one of his officers >> that..YEEEHHHAWW. > >How about: " Central, can I have a description of that BURNING vehicle? " Talk about DUH!!!!! > >Al > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 I guess in a way, officers and EMT's need reassurance that THEIR help is on the way. When officers are dispatched to a bad accident, it helps them to know FOR SURE that EMTs are enroute. They can reassure the injured that medical help is on the way. We have to remember that we don't SEE that carnage through the telephone. Gotta be difficult for officers arriving on the scene. For EMTs enroute to a shooting call or assaults, they also benefit from knowing that the guns are coming. They are kind of out there with their rears hanging in the breeze (if ya know wad i mean). I think most of our dispatchers advise that EMS has been contacted, or are contacting EMS. We KNOW they are going to ask anyways. annette hallmark ahallmark@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Besides, when the officer gets on the scene, there will be about 5 women, wearing the same type of clothes, all laying on the sidewalk!!!! The one he walks up to will be the wrong one and will want to file a complaint on the officer. " He was harrassing me and I was just resting! " annette hallmark ahallmark@... <<snip>> Oh, Kristy....do I hear you! When a woman was reported down on the sidewalk in front of a local bar, the responding officer asked for a clothing description. Want you want to say is " Well, just look for the one LAYING ON THE SIDEWALK, IDIOT!!!! " Jeez! Lyn magik@... <<snip>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 > To: 911consoleegroups > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:49:58 EDT > From: Mom5035cpd@... > Reply-to: 911consoleegroups > Subject: Re: 911:: Pet peeves > > How about: " Central, can I have a description of that BURNING vehicle? " > > Talk about DUH!!!!! > > Close your eyes and picture 3 a.m. with no moon. Barn fire -- fully involved -- " Can you give me a better location? " @#$@#$% Well, it might be near the bright glow in the sky...next to all the fire trucks! Really and truly, we all have pet peeves. And I'll betcha, everyone we've talked about has one about us as well. I've come to the conclusion that no matter what we might do to combat the 'pet peeve', they will just come up with another one to replace it. Vern had a good suggestion yesterday with his retort on advising responding units that ambulance and rescue - or on the other side of the coin - a police agency had in fact been dispatched. It seems like, and maybe this is my buried pet peeve, they will insist on having the last word. Like the paramedic in training telling a competent EMT to be sure to monitor the patient enroute to the hospital. Its some sort of a control factor thing. If they can't dispatch from their vehicle while not enroute to a call they weren't dispatched to, they aren't happy. Oh well, Nick Wagner Cortland Co. (NY) Sheriff's Dept E9-1-1 Center/Sr. Supervisor mailto:nwagner@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 I see no problem with asking the officer to break the station prior to transmitting information, if not an emergency. As a young officer many moons ago, dispatchers kicked my ass into compliance. Rich 1010WC dana wilson wrote: > How about when you are talking to people at your window, answering a > phone and > an officer comes on the air blurting, 2125 I'll be out with blah, blah, > blah at such and > such....then he gets MAD if you have to ask him to repeat.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 In a message dated 4/5/00 11:48:01 AM Central Daylight Time, kc8fcw@... writes: from pete > ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whatsa matter u? I think this is a great thread, it makes us all realize that we have a lot more in common than we sometimes think we do. And gives us a little insight as to how to handle the everyday BS that comes at us from everywhere. Just my thoughts for whatever they're worth Al I agree with you AL...lighten up pete, do you have a delete key? It does give you alittle insight as to how to handle everyday BS..Im gunna start telling EMS and Officers that the other one is enroute as well, when I give them trips...Thanks group!! Good thread!! jamie in iowa >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Or does anyone else get - " Can you tell fire/rescue to step it up? " They are coming lights and siren... they don't have jet packs (yet). -patrick At 11:21 04/05/2000 -0700, Currey wrote: > One of my pet peeves, > >Can you get an eta on the, trooper, wrecker, whoever. > >Why are you going to leave if they aren't there in the next 5 minutes? > > >Sgt Currey >Rutherford County SO, Tn >My thoughts, my feelings, my foot in my mouth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Re: 911:: Pet peeves > ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whatsa matter u? I think this is a great thread, it makes us all realize that we have a lot more in common than we sometimes think we do. And gives us a little insight as to how to handle the everyday BS that comes at us from everywhere. Just my thoughts for whatever they're worth Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 In a message dated 04/05/2000 2:16:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, danacat1@... writes: << OK, I can't just sit here and read these and not put in my 2 cents worth. Here is ONE of my pet peeves. When an officer tells you to " public service " a number and let them know when you have them on the line. >> Or when a Deputy is trying to pull on a warrant and he asks you to call the residence. Well, you call...they answer..you explain that you are with such and such SO and there is a deputy at their door. Could you please go to the door....Well, You get " What does he want with me? " So you can't really say " He has a warrant for your arrest " . So we tell them " Go to the door and find out " . SO we get kinda stuck in the middle and I HATE THAT !!!!! Kristy Rohm Supervisor, Clayton Co 911 boro, Ga. NitePrey2@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 One of my pet peeves, Can you get an eta on the, trooper, wrecker, whoever. Why are you going to leave if they aren't there in the next 5 minutes? Sgt Currey Rutherford County SO, Tn My thoughts, my feelings, my foot in my mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 At 07:51 AM 04/05/2000 -0700, Rich wrote: >I see no problem with asking the officer to break the station prior >to transmitting information, if not an emergency. As a young officer >many moons ago, dispatchers kicked my ass into compliance. We call this " pre-alerting " and it's an essential at our Center, as busy as we are and for as many units as we handle for different areas. Especially since we might be on the phone at the time, since our radio dispatchers also handle phone calls that roll over to their consoles if the phone positions are busy. It's more than just a " pet peeve " to us, The concept is explained (for the field folks, but certainly useful for dispatchers, too - to explain it to their field folks!) at the Break Room " Radio 101 " pages (so kindly mentioned by a day or so ago for the Trainee's suggestions). You can find the start of that section at http://www.gryeyes.com/radio101.htm Happy to be here, proud to serve. Olmstead Communications Supervisor ~on the Central California coastline~ " Not presumed to be an official statement of my employing agency. " Home E-mail: mailto:gryeyes@... http://www.gryeyes.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 I managed to install a system were officers were required to announce their traffic. For example: Officer:oneaddamone. Dispatcher:oneadamone. Officer: oneadamone, traffic stop ABC123 corner walk, dont walk. All traffic from the field units had to be announced, with exception to emergency traffic. This procedure gives the Dispatcher time to " shift gears " and pay full attention to the street traffic. Officers fought it, but in the end they found it caused less requests from the dispatcher to ask for repeats. It actually saved air time. Not my original idea, heard an ajacent department using it on my SCANNER. Vern Retired Served Proudly dana wilson wrote: > > Ok another one... > How about when you are talking to people at your window, answering a > phone and > an officer comes on the air blurting, 2125 I'll be out with blah, > blah, > blah at such and > such....then he gets MAD if you have to ask him to repeat.... > > Dana > This is not the opinion of my Department, just my own, which probably > stinks most > of the time anyway. Doin' my duty with pride. =^!'!^= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 RE: 911:: Pet Peeves > > For EMTs enroute to a shooting call or assaults, they also benefit from > knowing that the guns are coming. They are kind of out there with their > rears hanging in the breeze (if ya know wad i mean). > > > In most instances we advise EMS to stand by until the scene is secure. They usually are very good about standing by, as oft times they may be there before our units are. Sgt Currey Rutherford County SO, Tn My thoughts, my feelings, my foot in my mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 This is THE pet peeve, but one of many... Had an officer one time (another one who was a dispatcher, but did not retain what he had learned) who was going through the warrants box calling people to come in a pay their fees. (arrested, but not arrested - see?) He called one female student that he had been trying to get a hold of for a few days and yes, she was dodging him. He left a message on her machine and told me to let him know when she called. Okay. So he goes out on the street and she calls. (of course) So I bump him on the radio and he tells me to have her meet him at the PD at such-n-such a time. Well, she has a class at that time. He tells me to tell her (basically) tough, I need you here at the PD at that time. (Remember, she's been dodging him.) So, I do it. She gets mad but says she'll be here. Fine. Advise the officer - he's happy. I don't mind playing the heavy for the officers, but don't make me play the heavy then go all apologetic on me, making me look bad and mean. Well, about 20 minutes before his meeting, another officer goes out on a traffic stop and ends up making arrests which required them to be transported in different vehicles. Well, Officer " warrant man " VOLUNTEERS to transport one of the subjects. My eyebrows go up, " Uh, 20xx, that subject will be here in 10 minutes on your warrant " . " 10-4, University. When she gets there advise her what happened and tell her I'll call her at a later time to arrange another meet. " KA-PING! Instant Annette-unhappiness all over the dispatch! WHAT!!!! Well, the officer comes to the dispatch to pick up paperwork on his VOLUNTEER transport and I informed him that next time he wants someone to play the heavy he had better not ask me to do it. Yep, I spread the unhappiness to him. He didn't see what the big deal was. So I complained to the Sergeant. He understood and spoke to the girl himself when she came in. The Sarge went ahead and sent her down to the judge's office to pay on the warrant, basically denying Officer " warrant man " his tick mark on his " duties " sheet. Small victory, but it still made me mad. annette hallmark ahallmark@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Vern, this is and has been policy--THEY JUST DON'T FOLLOW IT! There are one or two who do it consistently, others who just do it when they get excited. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 OK, this is something i know i should know bbut i dont, what are the specific dates for telecommunicators week, is it this week, or next? Thanks Matt Gibson University Of Kentucky Police Lexington, Kentucky (My Opinions Are Mine, And Un-Official At That) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Well you could always tell him the roof is on fire, fire department is on the way, and he should get out of the house. vern Retired Severed Proudly NitePrey2@... wrote: >> Well, you call...they answer..you explain that you are > with such > and such SO and there is a deputy at their door. Could you please go > to the > door....Well, You get " What does he want with me? " So you can't > really say > " He has a warrant for your arrest " . So we tell them " Go to the door > and find > out " . SO we get kinda stuck in the middle and I HATE THAT !!!!! > > Kristy Rohm > Supervisor, Clayton Co 911 > boro, Ga. > NitePrey2@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 Rich, Believe me, we have requested that...it is one particular officer that continues to do that and one that will always do that. We just try to have our attention on the radio when he speaks up, we put people on hold... Dana This is not the opinion of my Department, just my own, which probably stinks most of the time anyway. Doin' my duty with pride. =^!'!^= ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2000 Report Share Posted April 6, 2000 Oh my gosh. I caught myself on the radio saying a car was red in color <im so ashamed> grin. I'll never do it again I promise :-) Eva Christian Fpd/Ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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