Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 and also you can express yourself any time i do feel for you and terry .you are living a hard life, a life of uncertainty...my husband is not sick like terry we can still do some may be not everything and we do adjust out life somewhat due to the disease, but we are not shackled to it such as you and terry..yet...but you have a good day coming i pray...and will wait for the day he has the paracentesis...did you make the appointment yet? let me know what day it is ok. Love sandra ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:29:21 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible That may very well be true, . ____________ _________ _________ __ From: sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:08:18 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible i am sure that it is not denial just ignorance... if you dont live it you do not understand.. like we do:) ____________ _________ _________ __ From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:40:13 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible Bless you heart , I feel for you because I also have to deal with my MIL who is 84. She totally refues to accept that Terry is dying. When he is having a really bad day, she thinks he'll be fine if he'll just eat something and go to bed to sleep at night! I feel for her because I can't even imagine how horrible it is for her. Terry is her only child and she has buried two husbands and both of her parents and her only brother already in her life. I'm sure she is in denial because she just can't help herself. Therefore, I basically have to just shielf Terry from her when he's really sick. I feel so bad doing it, but he just can't take her whining at him about food when he's so sick at his stomach. This disease just is horrible in every way, to everybody it touches! I didn't mean to get off on that! I'm sorry! Enjoy your trip! I'll be counting the days witih you! Hugs........ .. Diane ____________ _________ _________ __ From: sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:40:38 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible I am packing and counting down the days till my road trip to fla...i am working all week and when i get off the morn of the 29 i am gone far south....i am planning my south beach shopping and i think the name of that mall with the arenas is Bayside off Biscayne blvd???any way i know how to get there....I want my husband to stay in fla for a couple of weeks...i told him come May if he is listed then there will be no traveling much...his mom who is 85 wants him to take her to PR...i really have to explain to the family that this is not happening... the stress of travel and taking care of his mother and navigating the airport, car rental, and travel to the other end of the island will be too much on my husband...i find that a small measure of stress shuts him down...its alright if i am here to catch him but a trip like that will be impossible. also i want to say... Happy Birthday Mac love sandra ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:54:34 AM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible Florida is always opeh for you/ Lyncia In life family and friends take us on all kinds of adventures, God helps us choose our path....Enjoy your journey! From: preciouspenny3 <preciouspenny3@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 11:28 PM Ahhh, thanks. If you still have your house in Tampa, I'd rather visit you...warmer weather than here in Wisconsin... lol. Of course, you can come here too if you want to. It would be nice to meet you too. Penny > > From: preciouspenny3 <preciouspenny3@ ...> > Subject: Had to Share - Anything is Possible > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:49 PM > > > > > > > Merry Christmas! > > All things are possible with God... All things! Such an awesome > reminder of His faithfulness. .. > > > > http://www.charliep hillips.net/ Video/Theater3/ NickVujicic/ tabid/866/ Defa > ult.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Thanks . I haven't made an appointment yet. I plan to do that today. Well, actually, I plan to call the doctor's office and ask his advice on whether I should make an appointment or just take him into the ER. If I got the appointment route, I'm thinking we will have to go in to see the doctor, then schedule the procedure. If I go straight to the ER, they will most likely admit him and then perform the procedure. I would be a little more comfortable with that because he has also had some fairly serious bleeding from hemorids as well. I would really like to that have all of that assessed, as well as some issues with a recurring low grade temp. Anyway, I'll let you know what the doctor says. Thanks for your concern. Hugs.......... Diane ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 4:09:53 AM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible and also you can express yourself any time i do feel for you and terry .you are living a hard life, a life of uncertainty. ..my husband is not sick like terry we can still do some may be not everything and we do adjust out life somewhat due to the disease, but we are not shackled to it such as you and terry..yet.. ..but you have a good day coming i pray...and will wait for the day he has the paracentesis. ..did you make the appointment yet? let me know what day it is ok. Love sandra ____________ _________ _________ __ From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:29:21 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible That may very well be true, . ____________ _________ _________ __ From: sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:08:18 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible i am sure that it is not denial just ignorance... if you dont live it you do not understand.. like we do:) ____________ _________ _________ __ From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:40:13 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible Bless you heart , I feel for you because I also have to deal with my MIL who is 84. She totally refues to accept that Terry is dying. When he is having a really bad day, she thinks he'll be fine if he'll just eat something and go to bed to sleep at night! I feel for her because I can't even imagine how horrible it is for her. Terry is her only child and she has buried two husbands and both of her parents and her only brother already in her life. I'm sure she is in denial because she just can't help herself. Therefore, I basically have to just shielf Terry from her when he's really sick. I feel so bad doing it, but he just can't take her whining at him about food when he's so sick at his stomach. This disease just is horrible in every way, to everybody it touches! I didn't mean to get off on that! I'm sorry! Enjoy your trip! I'll be counting the days witih you! Hugs........ .. Diane ____________ _________ _________ __ From: sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:40:38 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible I am packing and counting down the days till my road trip to fla...i am working all week and when i get off the morn of the 29 i am gone far south....i am planning my south beach shopping and i think the name of that mall with the arenas is Bayside off Biscayne blvd???any way i know how to get there....I want my husband to stay in fla for a couple of weeks...i told him come May if he is listed then there will be no traveling much...his mom who is 85 wants him to take her to PR...i really have to explain to the family that this is not happening... the stress of travel and taking care of his mother and navigating the airport, car rental, and travel to the other end of the island will be too much on my husband...i find that a small measure of stress shuts him down...its alright if i am here to catch him but a trip like that will be impossible. also i want to say... Happy Birthday Mac love sandra ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:54:34 AM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible Florida is always opeh for you/ Lyncia In life family and friends take us on all kinds of adventures, God helps us choose our path....Enjoy your journey! From: preciouspenny3 <preciouspenny3@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 11:28 PM Ahhh, thanks. If you still have your house in Tampa, I'd rather visit you...warmer weather than here in Wisconsin... lol. Of course, you can come here too if you want to. It would be nice to meet you too. Penny > > From: preciouspenny3 <preciouspenny3@ ...> > Subject: Had to Share - Anything is Possible > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:49 PM > > > > > > > Merry Christmas! > > All things are possible with God... All things! Such an awesome > reminder of His faithfulness. .. > > > > http://www.charliep hillips.net/ Video/Theater3/ NickVujicic/ tabid/866/ Defa > ult.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Thanks, Diane. I would be very upset also. My own mother thinks I have a sore throat, or a simple stomach ache, and every now and then she says " But you get better in no time " . " you look so good " . " You aren't that sick, are you ? " . and my favorite- " I think you are going to be just fine " . AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sometimes that feels good. Thanks for listening. Love, Bobby long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:46:52 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible Yea, everyone keeps telling me I'm being ugly to her because I keep trying to get her to understand that Terry is dying, that he won't get better, only worse. But, I keep telling them that I will not sit by and watch him die and have her thinking everything is hunky-dory right up until the moment he passes. What's harder, to accept his death a little a at a time, or have it come as a big shock? I am not one for keeping secrets. I think it is always best to be open and honest. I will be praying for your cousin and her husband. Hugs........ .... Diane ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " robwalkingeagle@ yahoo.com " <robwalkingeagle@ yahoo.com> To: Livercirrhosissuppo rt <livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:42:01 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible I'm really sorry that your MIL is haed in the sand about Terry. I often wonder , do people who do this just think we live in these b odies forever? I never really knew just how short life is untill Ardis told me she was dying. Now, I totally believed her, and even making the most out of all of our time together, it still flew by. Your MIL is living a hard life, because denial is a road to difficult days. My cousins' husband is in ICU at a Denver hospital tonight, having ignored a pain in his leg for months, and a bad tooth for over a year. He was in denial. He buried his head in the sand, and refused to face what he had to face. Now he is intubated, stapled from chin to below his belly button. He had developed severe infection mainly in his pericardium, but other places in his body, and pieces of his infected heart broke off, and lodged in his leg, they had to go in there too. He had to have heart valve replacements- He has a very very poor prognisis, less than 30 percent. Denial is a bitch. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Had to Share - Anything is Possible > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:49 PM > > > > > > > Merry Christmas! > > All things are possible with God... All things! Such an awesome > reminder of His faithfulness. .. > > > > http://www.charliep hillips.net/ Video/Theater3/ NickVujicic/ tabid/866/ Defa > ult.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Anytime, Bobby! Anytime! ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:16:36 AM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible Thanks, Diane. I would be very upset also. My own mother thinks I have a sore throat, or a simple stomach ache, and every now and then she says " But you get better in no time " . " you look so good " . " You aren't that sick, are you ? " . and my favorite- " I think you are going to be just fine " . AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUGGGGGGGG GG!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!! sometimes that feels good. Thanks for listening. Love, Bobby long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer ____________ _________ _________ __ From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:46:52 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible Yea, everyone keeps telling me I'm being ugly to her because I keep trying to get her to understand that Terry is dying, that he won't get better, only worse. But, I keep telling them that I will not sit by and watch him die and have her thinking everything is hunky-dory right up until the moment he passes. What's harder, to accept his death a little a at a time, or have it come as a big shock? I am not one for keeping secrets. I think it is always best to be open and honest. I will be praying for your cousin and her husband. Hugs........ .... Diane ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " robwalkingeagle@ yahoo.com " <robwalkingeagle@ yahoo.com> To: Livercirrhosissuppo rt <livercirrhosissupp o rtyahoogroups (DOT) com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:42:01 PM Subject: Re: Had to Share - Anything is Possible I'm really sorry that your MIL is haed in the sand about Terry. I often wonder , do people who do this just think we live in these b odies forever? I never really knew just how short life is untill Ardis told me she was dying. Now, I totally believed her, and even making the most out of all of our time together, it still flew by. Your MIL is living a hard life, because denial is a road to difficult days. My cousins' husband is in ICU at a Denver hospital tonight, having ignored a pain in his leg for months, and a bad tooth for over a year. He was in denial. He buried his head in the sand, and refused to face what he had to face. Now he is intubated, stapled from chin to below his belly button. He had developed severe infection mainly in his pericardium, but other places in his body, and pieces of his infected heart broke off, and lodged in his leg, they had to go in there too. He had to have heart valve replacements- He has a very very poor prognisis, less than 30 percent. Denial is a bitch. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Had to Share - Anything is Possible > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:49 PM > > > > > > > Merry Christmas! > > All things are possible with God... All things! Such an awesome > reminder of His faithfulness. .. > > > > http://www.charliep hillips.net/ Video/Theater3/ NickVujicic/ tabid/866/ Defa > ult.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 My father's youngest brother died in his 50s of heart problems he had had since childhood. It was still very hard for my grandmother to accept that she had outlived him. And, my nephew died of heart problems at age 29. It was hard for all of us to accept it. His wife had died at age 21 in a car accident with another 21 year old at 12 noon. No drinking or drugs involved, just a truck full of propane tanks which shifted and caused the truck to plow into her. It just doesn't make sense for people who are younger than you are to be dying. My mother tells me not to talk so much about my medical problems. At least now she does acknowledge that I do have them. Talking about my problems has enabled me to help a lot of other people who find themselves sick in their 70s, 80s and 90s, ( I live in a town where the average age is 67, compared to most towns where the age is in the 30s) when they haven't really ever been sick a day in their lives. They know I have experienced a lot of the things they are wondering about and come to ask me. They want to know what a colonoscopy is like, does it hurt, etc, how about an endoscopy, what are the symptoms of a heart attack. Many of their questions I can't fully answer, but I can assure them they will get through all the tests their doctors want them to have. Yes, facing facts is easier in the long run. Jan H > I'm really sorry that your MIL is haed in the sand about Terry. I often > wonder , do people who do this just think we live in these b odies forever? > I never really knew just how short life is untill Ardis told me she was > dying. Now, I totally believed her, and even making the most out of all of > our time together, it still flew by. Your MIL is living a hard life, because > denial is a road to difficult days. My cousins' husband is in ICU at a > Denver hospital tonight, having ignored a pain in his leg for months, and a > bad tooth for over a year. He was in denial. He buried his head in the sand, > and refused to face what he had to face. Now he is intubated, stapled from > chin to below his belly button. He had developed severe infection mainly in > his pericardium, but other places in his body, and pieces of his infected > heart broke off, and lodged in his leg, they had to go in there too. He had > to have heart valve replacements-He has a very very poor prognisis, less > than 30 percent. Denial is a bitch. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > Had to Share - Anything is > Possible > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merry Christmas! > > > > All things are possible with God... All things! Such an awesome > > reminder of His faithfulness. .. > > > > > > > > http://www.charliep hillips.net/ Video/Theater3/ NickVujicic/ > tabid/866/ Defa > > ult.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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