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I'm so sorry to hear about " s Dr. visit. Detached retina has been

mentioned in CHARGE in the past. I have been thinking of all of you going

through this difficult time. I hope he gets some relief soon. You are all in

my thoughts daily. voight Mom to Mark 15

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My daughter got the results from Dr. yesterday of 's ultra sound of

the back of eye & the bad new is a detached retina. The Doc said it was not

viable in his case to have surgery, so we are ti continue with the drops &

monitor the pain management situation. The sight will not be able to be saved.

He still is not eating & we continue to force feed him causing a great deal of

stress & trauma for him. remebers from her notes at the St.Louis

Conference, that detached retina was a distinct possibility. Has any one else

had this kind of experience? Any suggestions with eating. He always seems to

shut down when ill, but usually it's because he develops sores in the mouth as a

secondary infection to an illness, but no evidence of that. Thanks for all the

words of encouragement & prayers. It meant a great deal to me. I'm more

resigned & accepting of the situation now.

Grandma to Neal

Fort ERie, Ontario

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Hi ,

We send our love. It sounds like a very difficult time. We just had our

daughters eyes tested today and we also are aware of the detached retina

issue. Because this fact with Coloboma is stated I'm sure it has happened

to other children with CHARGE.

I've never had to deal with the force feeding issue. You might get some

suggestions from others here. While we worked on oral skills, we just

topped up with her tube. We always wanted feeding to be pleasant. With

it's appetite and distraction. Sometimes she's " too busy " she says,

playing. It seems to be more important!

Does Mathew and his family have support from outside services. In Ontario

there are many different services to access. I know we did use nursing

when we needed it, (and WOW- we used a Pediatric nursing service and they

were GREAT-they helped with feeding, everything. The particular nurse we

had, was very creative and was able to help a great deal) home care, (came

and helped with cleaning, cooking) and services for assistants to help with

care and carry out therapy that was planned by therapists. I used this

time to spend with my other son and some personal space. For the child

there are occupational therapists, teachers of the Deaf and teachers of the

Blind, even DeafBlind teachers. I know is very lucky to have you and

her family. I mentioned before my mother is quite elderly, so I didn't ask

for her help with all of these issues, and my in-laws are not the type to

get involved medically. I had friends to help, but a lot of the issues are

very involved.

Your love and committment are very comforting. is very lucky.

Our best to you.

The Rittgasser Family

Keswick, Ontario

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Subject: s eye update

Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 7:24 PM

My daughter got the results from Dr. yesterday of 's ultra

sound of the back of eye & the bad new is a detached retina. The Doc said

it was not viable in his case to have surgery, so we are ti continue with

the drops & monitor the pain management situation. The sight will not be

able to be saved. He still is not eating & we continue to force feed him

causing a great deal of stress & trauma for him. remebers from her

notes at the St.Louis Conference, that detached retina was a distinct

possibility. Has any one else had this kind of experience? Any

suggestions with eating. He always seems to shut down when ill, but

usually it's because he develops sores in the mouth as a secondary

infection to an illness, but no evidence of that. Thanks for all the words

of encouragement & prayers. It meant a great deal to me. I'm more resigned

& accepting of the situation now.

Grandma to Neal

Fort ERie, Ontario

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Hi ,

I am so sorry your family is going through such a hard time. You all

have been in our prayers. I do hope you can find some solution to the

feeding problems. We had that same problems with KK. We would have to

force feed her and that got us no where. Then she altogether stoped

eating. She was very defensive when it came to getting food in her

mouth. We ended up having to get a g-tube because she wouldn't eat and

was loosing weight. The G-tube is a pain in the butt, but if this may be

an option for , then that would allow him some time to get over

the oral defensiveness. That is how we had to do it with KK. When she

got the g-tube, we were still trying to get her to eat. But after a

certain amount of formula going in her and at every 4 hours, and along

with her stomach not emptying out correctly, made for some hard feeding

times. But someone had suggested to us(from the list) that we should not

try to feed her by mouth for a couple of days, maybe aweek or so. So I

tryed it...it worked. She is now eating both by mouth and by tube. But

I know the frustrations your family is going through when it comes to

feeding. I do hope you can find something that works if the g-tube isn't

an option.

Korey mom to KK(age 3)

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> My daughter got the results from Dr. yesterday of 's ultra

> sound of the back of eye & the bad new is a detached retina.

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I'm so sorry to hear about 's detached retina. Several years ago

my son's retina also detached. He was operated on to try and re-attach

it. The surgery worked for a short time only, and then it detached

again. The doctors say it is not viable to try again as they may do

more damage to the eye. It was very hard to accept this at the time but

he does have some sight in his other eye and has adjusted very well. We

do have his " good " eye checked very often (about every 4 months) to make

sure we catch it early if it should begin to happen to the other eye.

My opthamologist has been very encouraging in this regard. He is a

specialist who is very well known in NJ so I value his opinion. He says

it is very important to keep even the " bad " eye healthy, due to the

scientific breakthroughs in the eye arena. He told me they are

successfully experimenting with " growing " retina tissue and we may see

transplants in our lifetime. Who knows? We can only hope!

Regarding feeding, for many years my son just about lived on " Sustical "

and " Ensure " puddings. They are vitamin and mineral enhanced puddings

that come in cans and are used in hospitals alot for people with

difficulty swallowing and eating. I don't know if they are available

where you are, but they provide as much nutrition as a meal. (and they

don't taste too bad either!) You may want to try something like this

with . Best of luck to you.

Joanne (mom to (12yrs. old))

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> Regarding feeding, for many years my son just about lived on " Sustical "

> and " Ensure " puddings. They are vitamin and mineral enhanced puddings

> that come in cans and are used in hospitals alot for people with

> difficulty swallowing and eating.

Something else you could try would be ScandiShakes.

Casey

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Joanne,

How do they test for detached retina? I take kelly to the eye doc. and they

dilate her pupils - can they see her retina that way? On my last eye doc.

visit he suggested that kelly have surgery to go in and " look " at her retina.

But, i have heard that the doc can see her retina while her pupils are

dilated. Also, what about a sonogram of the eye? I get very worried about

this with because she only has sight out of one eye and if she looses

that she will have no sight at all, but I am also worried about her going

under anesthesia if she doesn't have to.

Charlene - mom to kelly (10 - Charge), 12 and 7

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Wipeout518@... wrote:

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> From: Wipeout518@...

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> Joanne,

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> How do they test for detached retina? I take kelly to the eye doc. and they

> dilate her pupils - can they see her retina that way?

Charlene,

In most cases, the eye doctor can see a detached retina by dialating and

looking into the eyes. As I understand, they look for fluid seeping

under the retina. Because my son is very uncooperative to staying still

and having a very bright light in his one good eye, we have a difficult

time doing this examination. Usually they do manage to get a good look

but the retina specialist we see wants to thoroughly exam 's eye,

under anesthesia, at least once every few years. We've had this done

about twice now. He schedules us first in the day and we're in and out

in a few hours. They did not have to even put him all the way under

last time - just enough so he would be still while he looked.

The most important thing for us to be watchful for is any change in

's ability to function with regards to his sight. This would be

a sign of detachment and we'd need to contact the doctor immediately.

You can't drive yourself crazy but we are aware of this and watch for

any changes. In many cases, if caught early, the retina can be

re-attached and will stay with no further problem. 's left eye

was very bad at birth and was damaged further due to glaucoma which is

why his re-attachment did not take.

I know anesthesia is no picnic with our kids, but if the doctor has any

concern, I'd suggest you let him get a good look. Contact me through my

email or the list if you have any other questions. Good luck.

Joanne

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joanne,

thank you so much for your quick reply. I am going to call her eye doc as

soon as I get off this computer and make the appointment to let him look

under anesthesia. is 10, and he has never done this, so I guess its

time.

Charlene

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>From: Wipeout518@...

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>Joanne,

>

>How do they test for detached retina? I take kelly to the eye doc. and

they

>dilate her pupils - can they see her retina that way? On my last eye doc.

>visit he suggested that kelly have surgery to go in and " look " at her

retina.

> But, i have heard that the doc can see her retina while her pupils are

>dilated. ...

Reply: A detatched retina is very painful, especially is the child is

bending over. You would know (as Mathew's Grandma described) that there is

something very wrong. It sometimes can be reattatched, especially if

caught within 2 days, and usually should be an emergency proceedure. You

are able to see the retina when eyes are dialated, and a coloboma of the

retina can be caught by most opthamologists this way. Ask more ???, re:

What is the reason for the doctor wanting a closer look at the eye? Ann

Gloyn

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I had a retina that nearly detached, and had major surgery to put a

buckle in. There was no pain associated with the detachment itself. I

did see flashing lights in the corner of my vision which tipped us off

that something was going on. One thing to look for is a change in the

child's vision. You can tell by behavior. A child who used to look at

things, stops doing so, or has trouble getting around. My detachment

was very slow. Others are quite fast.

Tim Hartshorne (father of )

Tom Gloyn wrote:

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>

> --

>

> >From: Wipeout518@...

> >

> >Joanne,

> >

> >How do they test for detached retina? I take kelly to the eye doc.

> and

> they

> >dilate her pupils - can they see her retina that way? On my last eye

> doc.

> >visit he suggested that kelly have surgery to go in and " look " at her

>

> retina.

> > But, i have heard that the doc can see her retina while her pupils

> are

> >dilated. ...

>

> Reply: A detatched retina is very painful, especially is the child is

>

> bending over. You would know (as Mathew's Grandma described) that

> there is

> something very wrong. It sometimes can be reattatched, especially if

>

> caught within 2 days, and usually should be an emergency proceedure.

> You

> are able to see the retina when eyes are dialated, and a coloboma of

> the

> retina can be caught by most opthamologists this way. Ask more ???,

> re:

> What is the reason for the doctor wanting a closer look at the eye?

> Ann

> Gloyn

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