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Korey,

The main problem with tibes possibly causing hearing

loss is that they plug up (they are there to drain fluid off

the ear) and when the pressure builds up they blow,

rupturing the ear drum... some tiny tears will heal on

their own.. larger ones wont.. but then even if they do

heal scar tissue doesn't vibrate well..

This is part of my daughter's hearing loss, her ear drum

has ruptured 4 times.. she's on her 12th set of PE tubes,

has had three surgeries (other than tubes) on her ears,

severe/prfound loss in that ear.. She has non functioning

eustation (sp?) tubes, and will have to have PE tubes the

rest of her life.

Casey

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Dawn was that way when she got her first set of tubes..

went into histerics at the vacuum cleaner, docs told me

that it was because after getting rid of the fluid she could

finally here it for the first time.

Casey

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Don't envy you on that one... it took 3 or 4 of us to hold

Dawn down when they had to do that to her... think

about it.. a tiny NOISEY vacuum in you ear.. bound to

hurt and be scary.

Casey

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Hi everyone,

sorry to worry you all about the ear tubes then disappear again for a few

days. I really don't have too many answers yet-never ask the right ones at

the right time. It is a complication of tubes, to get a perforated ear drum.

It is on the consent to surgery that you sign. The risk is even higher when

you have the long lasting tubes placed because the are a bigger tube, therefor

nessecitating a larger slit in the eardrum to accomodate them. sometimes the

slit doesn't close correctly, esp when multiple tubes have been placed because

there is more scarring in the area from past healing. We always get a Rx ear

drop to place post-op 3x a day to prevent the clogging of the tubes that I

think you are all speaking of. After the tube is placed there is some bloody

drainage that can clog the tube. these drops are supposed to help disipate

that.

F,

This is totally out of my field since I know nothing of the heart defect you

write of. I would however be HIGHLY cautious of getting a surgery that sounds

like it is cutting of the circulation to Jillian's arm and you have to sit and

wait weeks for collatoral circulation to HOPEFULLY kick in. I would think they

would be able to give you statistics of how often it doesn't happen and then

what. I can't even type what the answer to that question is. I hope you get a

second opinion and not from someone they send you to, because i can already

tell you that it will match their opion. I am sorry if I am being such an

alarmist, please let me know what happens.

Elaine,

I was sorry to hear of Jack's kidney reflux. I am glad though that you found

out about it and it is simple enough to treat.

Jen Katapodis

wife to Mike and mom to our CHaRgErs Emma(5) and Diane(3)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CADY!!!!!!!

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Jeanne,

That is one of the reasons I kept asking about the tubes. One time he

went to surgery to have his eyes looked at and to take play dough he put in

his ear out (I'm sure he was maiking his own ear molds :) and I asked him

about changing them. He said the placement was good so why change them. He is

a very well respected ENT in this area. He has gotten alot better about his

ear infections but there are Dr's ALWAYS checking his ears. He also has had a

huge growth spurt and the tubes haven't come out on their own, now I'm

getting worried after your response. karen

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Jeanne McMullen wrote:

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> Voigt

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> I would like to say that this sounds like a bunch of bull (long-standing

> tubes) unless not being a dr, there is something I don't know about.

> The reason why I say this, I went to an ENT 2 years ago for tubes to be

> placed in MY ears because I still have chronic blocked ears. They said

> that there is absolutely NO Way they could give me any long-term

> solution. They said ALL tubes fall out after 6-9 months or so. If this

> was back in 1990, you'd think it would have caught on to the rest of the

> world even if it was new technology. Does someone want to correct me?

>

> BTW, what's a MIL that others have been discussing?

>

> Jeanne

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Michele Westmaas wrote:

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> Jeanie-

> Where did you get your otoscope? Did insurance pay for it? I've been

> thinking how nice it'd be to have one but don't know where to begin.

> Keep forgetting to ask the ped.

>

> Michele

> mom to Aubrie (14 mos) CHargE and (7 yrs)

> wife to DJ

> IL

> westml@...

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> Toby Colp wrote:

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> > From: toby.c@... (Toby Colp)

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> > It sounds like you all need an otoscope and get your ENT to teach you

> > what you're looking for. That way you don't have to run to the doctor

> > every time you think there may be wax in the ear and you can tell if

> > there is an infection. It also helps to know why the hearing aids are

> > feeding back if you can see alot of wax. Of course you have to go to

> > the

> > doctor if you see these things, but we find it saves alot of

> > unnecessary

> > trips.

> >

> > Jeanie Colp

> > mom to MacKenzie 8mos.CHARgE, Tyler 7, & Zachary 4

> > Nova Scotia, Canada

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Hi, y'all!

Of course, I've gotta add my $.02 about tubes. We're new to this.

Aubrie's only had hers since Sept or so. But I'm fairly certain the ENT

said they might fall out in a few months or they might last a year or

more. I can't remember what the longest was that he said. But I really

think I got the impression that lasting a few years was possible.

Perhaps just not likely. I don't understand why it'd be a problem if a

kid had tubes that were staying in place for a long time. Wouldn't that

be better than re-puncturing the ear drum to place new ones all the

time?

Michele

mom to Aubrie (14 mos) CHargE and (7 yrs)

wife to DJ

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I don't understand why it'd be a problem if a

>kid had tubes that were staying in place for a long time. Wouldn't that

>be better than re-puncturing the ear drum to place new ones all the

>time?

, has had seven or eight sets of tubes (I have lost count).

It seems about once a year (usually winter) the doc thinks its a good idea

to put them in again. Then when they fall out, he says, " lets see how he

does " . Then the next winter, we put them in again. They are out now, but

the last set stayed in for over a year. One fell out, but the other came

out but got lodged in the eardrum and a granuloma grew over it. This is

just scar tissue, I think, but it had to be removed. That's the only

reason I think you don't want them to stay in too long, but even so, he had

surgery to take it out, and it was painless and VERY minor.

, mom to (9) ChArGE

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's one and only set of tubes stayed in a bit under 5

years.

Casey

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