Re: Need HELP with son's constipation...

[Guest guest]

We had chronic constipation. When matters were really bad we used a

fleet glycerin enema.

Probiotics (VSL #3 Culturell, Prio Bio Gold, and now Perls)

High doses of vit C. Vitamin C, when not absorbed systemically, goes

into the bowels and acts as a laxative. Too much vit C will cause the

runs.

--penumbra

>

> My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the

> point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting " cleaned

> out " . His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN!

> Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that

> Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate

> from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it

> right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter

> than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's

> hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his

> esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets

> backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.

> I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be

> adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and

> on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for

> constipation would be really, really appreciated.

> Thank You,

> Sutfin

> Sacramento Area, Ca.

>

[Guest guest]

Any suggestions on safe products for

> constipation would be really, really appreciated.

We use Magnesium Citrate, vitamin C, and Renew Life Cleansemore

capsules that contain: Magnesium, Cape Aloe Gel , Rhubarb Root,

Slippery Elm Root, Marshmallow Root, Triphala (Blend of Amalaki,

Bibhitaki and Haritaki)

[Guest guest]

have you tried oxypowder?

Subject: Need HELP with son's constipation...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 1:50 AM

My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting "cleaned out". His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN! Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and on the Feingold diet as well.

Any suggestions on safe products for constipation would be really, really appreciated.Thank You, SutfinSacramento Area, Ca.

[Guest guest]

A mom who used to post here recommended this product:

http://www.fibermenace.com/store/hydroc.html

My dh and 17 yo dd (who is not ASD) have used this product when

necessary with great success. I like the fact that you are not

adding fiber to acheive results.

HTH,

>

> My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to

the

> point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting " cleaned

> out " . His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN!

> Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed

that

> Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-

Citrate

> from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it

> right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot.

Hotter

> than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my

husband's

> hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his

> esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he

gets

> backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process

again.

> I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be

> adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free,

and

> on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for

> constipation would be really, really appreciated.

> Thank You,

> Sutfin

> Sacramento Area, Ca.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you!!!

Subject: Re: Need HELP with son's constipation...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 11:10 PMWe had chronic constipation. When matters were really bad we used a

fleet glycerin enema.

Probiotics (VSL #3 Culturell, Prio Bio Gold, and now Perls) High doses of vit C. Vitamin C, when not absorbed systemically, goes

into the bowels and acts as a laxative. Too much vit C will cause the

runs. --penumbra

>

> My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the > point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting "cleaned > out". His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN! > Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that > Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate > from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it > right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter > than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's

> hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his > esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets > backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.

> I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be > adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and > on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for > constipation would be really, really appreciated.

> Thank You,

> Sutfin

> Sacramento Area, Ca.

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you!

Subject: Re: Need HELP with son's constipation...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 5:49 AM Any suggestions on safe products for > constipation would be really, really appreciated.

We use Magnesium Citrate, vitamin C, and Renew Life Cleansemore capsules that contain: Magnesium, Cape Aloe Gel , Rhubarb Root, Slippery Elm Root, Marshmallow Root, Triphala (Blend of Amalaki, Bibhitaki and Haritaki) ------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Milk of Magnesia, aloe vera juice, or Oxypowder.

Pamela

From:

mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf

Of Sutfin

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:50 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Need HELP with son's constipation...

My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic

constipation, to the

point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting " cleaned

out " . His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN!

Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that

Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate

from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it

right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter

than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's

hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his

esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets

backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.

I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be

adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and

on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for

constipation would be really, really appreciated.

Thank You,

Sutfin

Sacramento Area, Ca.

[Guest guest]

i give my son 3 tsps. of aloe vera juice every morning and 5 tsps. of it at dinner. he is usually ready for a BM by 6-7pm. i've used magnesium in the past but as someone in the medical profession, it can really mess with electrolytes so i've avoided it. alow vera has been much better, regardless.

hth

tracey

Subject: RE: Need HELP with son's constipation...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 3:05 PM

Milk of Magnesia, aloe vera juice, or Oxypowder.

Pamela

From: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:mb12 valtrex @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of SutfinSent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:50 AMTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Need HELP with son's constipation. ..

My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting "cleaned out". His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN! Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and on the Feingold diet as well.

Any suggestions on safe products for constipation would be really, really appreciated.Thank You, SutfinSacramento Area, Ca.

[Guest guest]

Hi we have a similar situation with my son as well that turned dire and he was

sent to

Cincinatti children's hospital. Thae first time we tried Oxypowder and that

worked for 6

months than things got worse for us and had to seek medical care, but I was say

try

oxypowder or Mag07 and see what happens.

Selena

>

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> Subject: RE: Need HELP with son's constipation...

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 3:05 PM

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> Milk of Magnesia, aloe vera juice,  or Oxypowder.

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> Pamela

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> From: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:mb12 valtrex @yahoogroups. com] On

Behalf Of Sutfin

> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:50 AM

> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

> Subject: Need HELP with son's constipation. ..

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> My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the

> point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting " cleaned

> out " . His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN!

> Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that

> Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate

> from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it

> right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter

> than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's

> hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his

> esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets

> backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.

> I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be

> adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and

> on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for

> constipation would be really, really appreciated.

> Thank You,

> Sutfin

> Sacramento Area, Ca.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, and thanks to anyone that gave me these great recommendations!!!

~

Subject: Re: Need HELP with son's constipation...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 12:33 PMHi we have a similar situation with my son as well that turned dire and he was

sent to Cincinatti children's hospital. Thae first time we tried Oxypowder and that

worked for 6 months than things got worse for us and had to seek medical care, but I was say

try oxypowder or Mag07 and see what happens. Selena

> >

> Subject: RE: Need HELP with son's constipation...

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 3:05 PM

> > > > > > > > > Milk of Magnesia, aloe vera juice, or Oxypowder.

>

> Pamela

>

> > > From: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:mb12 valtrex @yahoogroups. com]

On Behalf Of Sutfin

> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:50 AM

> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

> Subject: Need HELP with son's constipation. ..

>

> > > > My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the > point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting "cleaned > out". His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN! > Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that > Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate > from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it > right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter > than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's > hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his > esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets > backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.

> I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be > adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and > on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for > constipation would be really, really appreciated.

> Thank You,

> Sutfin

> Sacramento Area, Ca.

>

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[Guest guest]

We have always had excellent results using aloe vera capsules. Take one in the evening and bm by morning. Even when my son had severe blockages and nothing else would work, once we found aloe, we never had another problem.

Subject: Re: Need HELP with son's constipation...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 2:33 PM

Hi we have a similar situation with my son as well that turned dire and he was sent to Cincinatti children's hospital. Thae first time we tried Oxypowder and that worked for 6 months than things got worse for us and had to seek medical care, but I was say try oxypowder or Mag07 and see what happens. Selena> > From: Pamela <pamelaleigh99@ ...>> Subject: RE: Need HELP with son's constipation. ..> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 3:05 PM> > > > > > > > > Milk of Magnesia, aloe vera juice, or Oxypowder.> > Pamela> > > > From: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:mb12 valtrex @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Sutfin> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:50 AM> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Subject: Need HELP with son's constipation. ..> > > > > My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the > point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting

"cleaned > out". His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN! > Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that > Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate > from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it > right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter > than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's > hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his > esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets > backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.> I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be > adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and > on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for > constipation would be really,

really appreciated.> Thank You,> Sutfin> Sacramento Area, Ca.>

[Guest guest]

I bought a jug of Aloe Vera Juice from the store. Would this work, and if so, how much?

Subject: Re: Need HELP with son's constipation...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 2:33 PM

Hi we have a similar situation with my son as well that turned dire and he was sent to Cincinatti children's hospital. Thae first time we tried Oxypowder and that worked for 6 months than things got worse for us and had to seek medical care, but I was say try oxypowder or Mag07 and see what happens. Selena> > From: Pamela <pamelaleigh99@ ...>> Subject: RE: Need HELP with son's constipation. ..> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 3:05 PM> > > > > > > > > Milk of Magnesia, aloe vera juice, or Oxypowder.> > Pamela> > > > From: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:mb12 valtrex @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Sutfin> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:50 AM> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Subject: Need HELP with son's constipation. ..> > > > > My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the > point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting

"cleaned > out". His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN! > Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that > Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate > from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it > right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter > than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's > hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his > esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets > backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.> I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be > adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and > on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for > constipation would be really,

really appreciated.> Thank You,> Sutfin> Sacramento Area, Ca.>

[Guest guest]

Good Morning ,I feel bad for your son and family. I am sending you a link to something we use and it is GREAT. We all use it at time in our house. It is affordable, has no taste, color and is compatible with the diets our kid/families are on. If you can't find it at your local health food, store email at my direct email and I will pick it up for you and ship it to you. It really is great. We no longer have to give our daughter suppositories and many other icky stuff.

Have a good day,techmom3@...http://www.iherb.com/productdetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=5103770846710135372 & utm_source=y & utm_medium=c & OVRAW=clear%20organic%20fiber & OVKEY=clear%20organic%20fiber & OVMTC=standard & OVADID=19186630512 & OVKWID=180521987512

My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the

point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting " cleaned

out " . His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN!

Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that

Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate

from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it

right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter

than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's

hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his

esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets

backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.

I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be

adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and

on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for

constipation would be really, really appreciated.

Thank You,

Sutfin

Sacramento Area, Ca.

[Guest guest]

Just an FYI on Aloe vera, it is a part of the lilly family. If you have a problem w/garlic or onions, you may have one w/aloe. My son had his first anaphylactic reaction a few months ago. The only thing he had ingested was a tiny bit of aloe juice. Then he had 2 more following ingesting hot dogs that have garlic and onion as spices. His allergy tests showed he is allergic to lilly family foods.

Need HELP with son's constipation. ..> > > > > > > > > > My son went from chronic yeasty mush to chronic constipation, to the > > point he was in the hospital this week for 2 days, getting "cleaned > > out". His GI doctor wants him on Miralax daily. At the DAN! > > Conference in San Diego a few weeks back, doctors firmly agreed that > > Miralax is NOT a good idea for our ASD kiddos. I gave him Mag-Citrate > > from Kirkman's. The first time was ok, the 2nd time, he threw it > > right up, and it was scalding hot. Emphasis on scalding hot. Hotter > > than really, really warm bath water. It literally burned my husband's > > hand. Not sure what that was about, but I am concerned about his > > esophagus, if we try it again. The GI specialist said that if he gets > > backed up in 3 or so days, he could begin the blockage process again.> > I need to know what a sure fire way to keep him going. I will be > > adding fiber, since he is GF/CF, sugar free, yeast free, soy free, and > > on the Feingold diet as well. Any suggestions on safe products for > > constipation would be really, really appreciated.> > Thank You,> > Sutfin> > Sacramento Area, Ca.> >>

[Guest guest]

For my son, the enzyme NO Fenol from houston does the job. I just mix

it with all fruits and vegetables

>

> OK, then I'm thinking about something else that helped me, nut I

didn't

> mention it before, because it is a little radical in the view of

some, and I

> don't know if you will be able to get him to eat it, but you never

know.

> Home cultured/fermented vegetables were a really big help to me in

this

> area. It provides billions of probiotics, and made

movements " lubricated " .

> That's the only word I know of to describe it.

> I just chopped up some cabbage, put in a >very< little sea salt,

and then

> waited for it to ferment. I started with one spoonful, and worked

up from

> there, eventually having a serving with each meal. I grew to crave

it. You

> might be able to sneak some of the juice into something he likes,

to get him

> on it.

> I hope you find something to help the little guy...

> --

> Warmest Regards,

> Robin Little

>

> We do the baths about 5-6 nights a week. I avoid apples, it feeds

his

> yeasty behaviors.

>

>

> ...epsom salts soak...

> ...APPLES? ...

>

> Warmest Regards,

> Robin Little

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin~Yes~ Cut them up raw, like a shred, as if you were making slaw. (Although there is a video on youtube of a gal making kimchee and she doesn't cut up the cabbage at all! So I'll tell you how I do it.)

Do not cook them, this would kill the beneficial bacteria. The " good bugs " will process the cabbage for you.Be careful not to add too much salt.Keep it covered with a clean dry cloth, or a saucer. Don't seal it, it might pop.

In very hot weather or if you keep your house really warm, and depending on your veg, it will take a few days, but in cool weather and in a house that is kept cool, it takes longer, and tastes better. You will start to smell it. (You might get complaints.) Then you can place it in the fridge. It will continue to ferment slowly.

If the veg floats weight it down with something clean and change it everyday. You want the veg to stay underneath the " juice " or " brine " . (If you don't have any " juice " , you can pound the cabbage until its juicy, or boil some water and lightly salt it, COOL and pour on, but not too much, or your kraut will be too soupy. You DON'T HAVE to do this.) If you see any moldy looking stuff, just scrape it off and discard it.

Use clean hands, containers and utensils. (Although in the old days, they had the children get up in the barrel and stomp the cabbage with their bare feet! I don't recommend that, but it sounds like fun!)Please get on the internet and read up on this subject. Join the >Microbial_Nutrition< yahoo group, and learn more.

-- Warmest Regards,Robin Little

Re: Need HELP with son's constipation...

Posted by: " Robin Broyles "

rabroyles@...

robinbroyles

Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:10 pm (PST)

I would love to try the fermented vegetables.

Do you just cut them up raw, or do you cook them first? After adding salt,

do you store them in the refrigerator while they fermet? How long does it

take for them to fermet?

[Guest guest]

Thanks for posting this. What other types of

vegies besides making kimchee and sauerkaut?

" Robin Little " wrote:

>

> Hi Robin~

> Yes~ Cut them up raw, like a shred, as if you were making slaw.

(Although

> there is a video on youtube of a gal making kimchee and she doesn't

cut up

> the cabbage at all! So I'll tell you how I do it.)

> Do not cook them, this would kill the beneficial bacteria.

The " good bugs "

> will process the cabbage for you.

> Be careful not to add too much salt.

> Keep it covered with a clean dry cloth, or a saucer. Don't seal it,

it might

> pop.

> In very hot weather or if you keep your house really warm, and

depending on

> your veg, it will take a few days, but in cool weather and in a

house that

> is kept cool, it takes longer, and tastes better.

> You will start to smell it. (You might get complaints.) Then you

can place

> it in the fridge. It will continue to ferment slowly.

> If the veg floats weight it down with something clean and change it

> everyday. You want the veg to stay underneath the " juice "

or " brine " . (If

> you don't have any " juice " , you can pound the cabbage until its

juicy, or

> boil some water and lightly salt it, COOL and pour on, but not too

much, or

> your kraut will be too soupy. You DON'T HAVE to do this.) If you

see any

> moldy looking stuff, just scrape it off and discard it.

> Use clean hands, containers and utensils. (Although in the old

days, they

> had the children get up in the barrel and stomp the cabbage with

their bare

> feet! I don't recommend that, but it sounds like fun!)

> Please get on the internet and read up on this subject. Join the

> >Microbial_Nutrition< yahoo group, and learn more.

>

> --

> Warmest Regards,

> Robin Little

>

> Re: Need HELP with son's constipation...

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> <http://profiles.yahoo.com/robinbroyles> Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:10 pm

(PST) I

> would love to try the fermented vegetables.

>

> Do you just cut them up raw, or do you cook them first? After

adding salt,

> do you store them in the refrigerator while they fermet? How long

does it

> take for them to fermet?

>

[Guest guest]

Someone else posted about other veg but I can't remember exactly what all they mentioned. Some people add apples, carrots, peppers, garlic, onions, heck I guess you could add about anything. Some people even add meat, fish or shrimp, but I have never done that. I do know carrots cut up real small are good, that's about as adventurous as I have felt like getting. Maybe as I continue to improve I will get more creative with my kraut, and even make kimchee!

Just put in what ever your child (or you) are into or can tolerate.-- Warmest Regards,Robin LittleWhat other types of

vegies besides making kimchee and sauerkaut?

[Guest guest]

For my child constipation, I use No Fenol enzyme from Houston. Also

I use plum water - I leave plums on water overnight in a jar in the

refrigerator and give it to him the following day during the day.

> >

> > Hi Robin~

> > Yes~ Cut them up raw, like a shred, as if you were making slaw.

> (Although

> > there is a video on youtube of a gal making kimchee and she

doesn't

> cut up

> > the cabbage at all! So I'll tell you how I do it.)

> > Do not cook them, this would kill the beneficial bacteria.

> The " good bugs "

> > will process the cabbage for you.

> > Be careful not to add too much salt.

> > Keep it covered with a clean dry cloth, or a saucer. Don't seal

it,

> it might

> > pop.

> > In very hot weather or if you keep your house really warm, and

> depending on

> > your veg, it will take a few days, but in cool weather and in a

> house that

> > is kept cool, it takes longer, and tastes better.

> > You will start to smell it. (You might get complaints.) Then you

> can place

> > it in the fridge. It will continue to ferment slowly.

> > If the veg floats weight it down with something clean and change

it

> > everyday. You want the veg to stay underneath the " juice "

> or " brine " . (If

> > you don't have any " juice " , you can pound the cabbage until its

> juicy, or

> > boil some water and lightly salt it, COOL and pour on, but not

too

> much, or

> > your kraut will be too soupy. You DON'T HAVE to do this.) If you

> see any

> > moldy looking stuff, just scrape it off and discard it.

> > Use clean hands, containers and utensils. (Although in the old

> days, they

> > had the children get up in the barrel and stomp the cabbage with

> their bare

> > feet! I don't recommend that, but it sounds like fun!)

> > Please get on the internet and read up on this subject. Join the

> > >Microbial_Nutrition< yahoo group, and learn more.

> >

> > --

> > Warmest Regards,

> > Robin Little

> >

> > Re: Need HELP with son's constipation...

> >

>

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> > robinbroyles

> > <http://profiles.yahoo.com/robinbroyles> Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:10

pm

> (PST) I

> > would love to try the fermented vegetables.

> >

> > Do you just cut them up raw, or do you cook them first? After

> adding salt,

> > do you store them in the refrigerator while they fermet? How long

> does it

> > take for them to fermet?

> >

>