Re: tonsils and adenoid removal - this Friday

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tonsils and adenoid removal - this Friday

Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because of recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS (some aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers are probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up. But he's already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets strep he's so miserable and he can get it without symptoms. My concern is doing this during the anti-viral/anti-fungal treatment but both doctor and I feel the tonsils are no good.

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Yes, we did some (And I have been taking a lot lately with OoO). The

strep panel came back " very normal " per pediatrician. I just feel the

tonsils could be a part of what's holding the viruses for him if that

makes any sense. When they are swollen he hardly has any room to

breathe. When he talks sometimes it sounds like he has swollen

tonsils half the time. He had several cases of non-strep tonsililitis

as a todddler. They should have come out a while ago it seems. It's

just a tough recovery for a kid going through massive die-off but I

feel like he could be better off in the long run, especially if they

are " bad " tonsils.

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> Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because

of

> recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS

(some

> aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers

are

> probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up. But

he's

> already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets strep

he's

> so miserable and he can get it without symptoms.

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> My concern is doing this during the anti-viral/anti-fungal

treatment

> but both doctor and I feel the tonsils are no good.

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have you done a full allergy panel on him both IGG and IGE to see if his immune system is in over drive??? allergy shots and food avoidence can help some of this as well

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tonsils and adenoid removal - this Friday> > > Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because of > recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS (some > aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers are > probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up. But he's > already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets strep he's > so miserable and he can get it without symptoms. > > My concern is doing this during the anti-viral/anti-fungal treatment > but both doctor and I feel the tonsils are no good. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM>

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Are you talking about help for the die-off or the tonsils?

I get the results from Alletess (184 IgG) this week but he has IgE

milk allergy. I got additional IgE tests done in addition to the

pediatric 12 IgE. I know he has IgG wheat sensitivity from a single

test my DAN did then.

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> > recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS

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> > aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers

> are

> > probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up.

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> > already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets

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> > so miserable and he can get it without symptoms.

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My 5 y.o. had his removed a year and a half ago due to severe sleep apnea, mouth breathing, constant upper respiratory infections and chewing up his food and spitting it out. The surgery was successful and solved all three of these issues. Recently, he had been getting a runny nose frequently again and I upped his vitamin C, which nipped it in the bud. Clearly, he had severe inflammation and lots of germs hiding away. The procedure did wonders for his overall health, wellness and sleep. My former PDD/nonverbal nephew also had the surgery. He became verbal almost immediately following his recovery. He didn't start speaking in sentences but he started first with hard consonants, then 1-word, then putting two together, etc. Three years later he is behind his peers but conversational. He is also much healthier. We did not see the language gains that he did.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of teachspeakSent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 7:36 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: tonsils and adenoid removal - this Friday

Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because of recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS (some aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers are probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up. But he's already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets strep he's so miserable and he can get it without symptoms. My concern is doing this during the anti-viral/anti-fungal treatment but both doctor and I feel the tonsils are no good.

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what you are talking about IGE wise is only a ped RAST panel only 40% accurate in foods, you want skin testings....this is likly why his tonsels are huge. are you avoiding milk and wheat?

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tonsils and adenoid removal - this Friday> > > > > > Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because > of > > recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS > (some > > aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers > are > > probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up. But > he's > > already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets strep > he's > > so miserable and he can get it without symptoms. > > > > My concern is doing this during the anti-viral/anti-fungal > treatment > > but both doctor and I feel the tonsils are no good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> ----------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: > 11/29/2008 6:52 PM> >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM>

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I asked for additional ones beyond the DAN! Pedicatric 12 IgE -- his

allergist and myself picked them out... and we had full skin testings

done already on him and the wheat and milk weren't elevated enough to

count (supposedly) but his IgE for wheat was clear and had moderate

milk sensitivity through IgE. I think it's a big allergist debate

about which is better from what I read in Dr. Bock's book. We went

full-on GFCF in October.

I also had scratch tests done and absolutely nothing came up on about

a test of 30+ and I thought I was very allergic (wheat, cats, dust,

etc). So, I am getting blood as an alternative route.

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> > > Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed

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> > > recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in

PANDAS

> > (some

> > > aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent

fevers

> > are

> > > probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up.

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> > > already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets

> strep

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That's awesome. I'd do anything health-wise for him to get more

verbal. I feel like we are missing the boat on something big.

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> My 5 y.o. had his removed a year and a half ago due to severe sleep

apnea,

> mouth breathing, constant upper respiratory infections and chewing

up his

> food and spitting it out. The surgery was successful and solved

all three

> of these issues. Recently, he had been getting a runny nose

frequently

> again and I upped his vitamin C, which nipped it in the bud.

Clearly, he

> had severe inflammation and lots of germs hiding away. The

procedure did

> wonders for his overall health, wellness and sleep. My former

PDD/nonverbal

> nephew also had the surgery. He became verbal almost immediately

following

> his recovery. He didn't start speaking in sentences but he started

first

> with hard consonants, then 1-word, then putting two together, etc.

Three

> years later he is behind his peers but conversational. He is also

much

> healthier. We did not see the language gains that he did.

> tonsils and adenoid removal - this Friday

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> Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because of

> recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS

(some

> aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers are

> probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up. But

he's

> already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets strep

he's

> so miserable and he can get it without symptoms.

>

> My concern is doing this during the anti-viral/anti-fungal

treatment

> but both doctor and I feel the tonsils are no good.

>

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> Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because of

> recurrent fevers and strep?

Yes, we did. It did give ds about a one year break from the back to

back to back strep throat infections. A year later he was back in the

viscious strep throat cycle though. Having the tonsils and adenoids

out did stop his snoring though so in that respect it was still a good

thing. We finally kicked the strep throat with virastop but then a

year later found he still had strep hiding out in his gut when we did a

CDSA. Yasko's strep protocol finally got rid of it.

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My 3 1/2 yr old son had just his adnoid out in September. It also made a big difference in his communication. His nasal passage was 80% blocked and the swelling was even pushing up against his ears. 4 weeks after the surgery, he can hear things that he couldn't before, is picking up volcabulary, and went from a few words to putting together phrases. But, our son has also been a major gut kid and without all the diet, supplements, etc. we have done, I don't think just the adnoid removal would have been as big a success.

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Thanks guys for sharing your experiences!!!

Ali – thanks for glutathione tip. Was it hard to give Valtrex and

Diflucan after surgery? I am wondering if he can get an antibiotic shot to

bypass the gut.

And Liz, my son had a similar experience once he got ear tubes. Afterwards

he started talking, even it was echolalia, the ear tubes drained the liquid

that was backed up blocking some hearing.

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We did the antibiotics also. We just made sure we gave plenty of probiotics as well.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Alison HoffmanSent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:08 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: tonsils and adenoid removal - this Friday

You are welcome! It was actually only a 2 day dose of antibiotic and it didn't cause any issues for . He took the valtrex and diflucan without issue. But it was only the adenoids and you are saying tonsils so I know that recovery is different.I would ask about the shot - that's a great idea.Good luck!

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Hey there,I just wanted to share my own experience with tonsils. My oldest DD had hers out when she was 4. Since then, I've learned that tonsils & adenoids are an important part of the lymph system and removing them doesn't solve the inflammation problem. Her surgeon assured me after the surgery that the removed tissue was full of puss and likely the source of her chronic strep infections. Unfortunately, my DD developed asthma within 2 years of having her tonsils removed and needed an inhaler for years. Surgical removal of the T & A seemed to fix the problem initially, but the imbalance in her system shifted & found another way of expressing itself ==> this time through her lungs. My second oldest DD used to have tonsils that touched each other, with hugely infected craters in them that often produced tonsil stones. Yuck yuck yuck. I decided to approach this differently, using "alternative means". Once we removed the offending foods (gluten, casein, IgG's, etc.) and fixed the gut, her tonsils shrunk down to a normal size and the infections and stones are gone. For us, fixing the gut and removing offending foods were key to balancing her body, boosting the immune system and allowing the body to heal.I currently believe that our body parts should come with DO NOT REMOVE tags attached to them. Fix the diet, fix the gut, and then see if there's still a problem. If you've only just recently removed offending foods, it may be better to give the body more time to heal. Just my mom 2 cents. gina >> Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because of > recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS (some > aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers are > probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up. But he's > already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets strep he's > so miserable and he can get it without symptoms. > > My concern is doing this during the anti-viral/anti-fungal treatment > but both doctor and I feel the tonsils are no good.>

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my ds had his t/a removed when he was 5 yrs old (now 11 1/2). this was mainly because of family history of very enlarged t/a and the fact that it caused sleep apnea. the kids would stopped breathing! a first cousin of theirs when she was 2 yrs old (nt) had to have emergency removal of t/a. problem runs in dad's family: dad had removed, ds, nt daughter, and several first cousins. my ds is the only autistic in the large family. at the time, he was wf/gf/cf/sf.

vicki

Re: tonsils and adenoid removal - this Friday

Are you talking about help for the die-off or the tonsils?

I get the results from Alletess (184 IgG) this week but he has IgE

milk allergy. I got additional IgE tests done in addition to the

pediatric 12 IgE. I know he has IgG wheat sensitivity from a single

test my DAN did then.

> >

> > have you tried OLE treatments with it

> >

> > Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> > Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> > http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> > http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169

> >

> > tonsils and adenoid removal - this Friday

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> >

> > Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because

> of

> > recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS

> (some

> > aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers

> are

> > probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up.

But

> he's

> > already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets

strep

> he's

> > so miserable and he can get it without symptoms.

> >

> > My concern is doing this during the anti-viral/anti-fungal

> treatment

> > but both doctor and I feel the tonsils are no good.

> >

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Thanks for your two cents. It always makes sense to think twice about

surgeries. As for my little guy, he has trouble swallowing as well

and we have concerns about breathing,too. Also, I think it comes down

to whether the tonsils/adenoids are helping or hurting the lymphatic

system. So many people get healthier when they are gone but I am sure

some have been taken out hastily. As I debate whether to go forward,

my mommy gut instinct tells me they are probably holding onto alot of

the viruses he's had over the years - if that's possible - I am just

wondering why his antivirals are spurring fevers constantly lately.

I am sure diet can help the lyphamtic system overall and I agree

cutting out the wrong foods can help it tremendously.

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> > Hi - Anyone have their child's tonsils/adenoids removed because of

> > recurrent fevers and strep? My ENT doc is a believer in PANDAS

(some

> > aren't) and Pfapa (periodic fever syndrome). The recent fevers are

> > probably more related to the anti-virals stirring things up. But

he's

> > already had three cases of strep this year and when he gets strep

he's

> > so miserable and he can get it without symptoms.

> >

> > My concern is doing this during the anti-viral/anti-fungal

treatment

> > but both doctor and I feel the tonsils are no good.

> >

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