Re: Canary Club results/OMG!

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It looks to me like you definitely need some hydrocortisone, and more Armour! Are you on HRT or are all your sex hormones elevated naturally???DeborahOn 3/28/06,

beth wrote:

Got my results (very quick, I might add) Shows I'm practically dead!!! Can I get some feedback on these? Thanks so much as always!!!

7am - 3 (13-24)

Noon - 1 (5-10)

4pm - <1 (3-8)

Midnight 1 (1-4)

Cortisol burden - 6 (23-42)

DHEA 4 (3-10)

fTSH 96 (86-120 ) Borderline high

Ft4 .18 (normal) 0.17-0.42

fT3 .41 (normal) .028-1.10

TPO Negative

Estridiol >99 Way high

Progesterone 944 Way high

Free Test 32 Elevated

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>>7am

- 3 (13-24)

Noon

- 1 (5-10)

4pm

- <1 (3-8)

Midnight

1 (1-4)

Cortisol

burden - 6 (23-42)

DHEA

4 (3-10)

fTSH

96 (86-120 ) Borderline high

Ft4

..18 (normal) 0.17-0.42

fT3

..41 (normal) .028-1.10

TPO

Negative

Estridiol

>99 Way high

Progesterone

944 Way high

Free

Test 32 Elevated<<

EEEEK are you sure you are breathing? WOW no woinder you feel horrible.

Now start again & tell me what you are taking or not. It is

important to know what oyu were on the time of testing so I can

interpret accurately for you.

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The only thing I had taken was 1/4 grain armour in the am. Swallowed. And had taken the same the day before. A tiny dose of xanex and my topical Estrogen.

What the heck? So I have started back up on the Cortef this afternoon.2.5mg. I had taken 1/2 grain of armour this am but I think I should hold off on that for now. I had to take more xanex this morning as my body can't take the anxiety anymore. So, I"m hoping that the cortef will help with that. Do you think it will???? What suggestions, if any do you have for me? Besides pick out my coffin ):):)

Liz

>>7am - 3 (13-24)

Noon - 1 (5-10)

4pm - <1 (3-8)

Midnight 1 (1-4)

Cortisol burden - 6 (23-42)

DHEA 4 (3-10)

fTSH 96 (86-120 ) Borderline high

Ft4 .18 (normal) 0.17-0.42

fT3 .41 (normal) .028-1.10

TPO Negative

Estridiol >99 Way high

Progesterone 944 Way high

Free Test 32 Elevated<<EEEEK are you sure you are breathing? WOW no woinder you feel horrible. Now start again & tell me what you are taking or not. It is important to know what oyu were on the time of testing so I can interpret accurately for you.-- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I'm on Transdermal E only. I had a complete hyst 7 years ago.

I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo hoping I can get better. Are these the worst labs tests ever seen?

Liz

It looks to me like you definitely need some hydrocortisone, and more Armour! Are you on HRT or are all your sex hormones elevated naturally???Deborah

[Guest guest]

OK with that in mind, I think your adrenals are working overtime making

sex hormones, which they will do with a complete hyst.. That is what

MINE did! And totally exhausted them doing it. I would stop the E

cream.. you sure don;t need any more! If you start having hot flashes

you can start it again but MUCH less than you were using, like only use

tit three days a week instead of every day. Start the HC low 2.5 would

be fine but work it up to at LEAST 20MG a day. You may need even more!

Once you get to 10MG a day (do increases every 3-4 days) you can start

adding in some Armour at 1/4 grains. I would also recommend DHEA at 25MG

a day and sea salt. Your adrenals need all the help they can get! You

are just about at 's range with your Cortisol. No wonder you

haven anxiety! Your body can't handle ANY stress. You need to try t be

in bed b 10PM and sleep as late as possible. NO stress ! Sit down and

find anything that is in your life causing it and try to eliminate it.

This is for your very life and to heal you need no stress. Hang in there

Liz! With the right meds and some time you will feel better soon.

You are going to need to learn how to stress dose the HC as well. ANY

tie you feel nauseas and shaky you should be taking at least another

10MG HC on top of your daily dose. Take whatever amount it takes to make

your self stop shaking. I mean you can take a one time dose of 60MG

without hurting anything and if that is what it takes to feel better,

take it! I have twice now felt ill in the evening like I was coming down

with something. Took extra 20MG HC at bedtime and woke up feeling WELL

and great! This is stress dosing and after you have done it a time or 2

you will get the hang of it. Usually if it is something that has made me

angry or afraid that starts me shaking, I take 5MG every 15 minutes till

it stops. This is how you determine your stress dose for things that

upset you. Mine is usually a dog trying to bite me, that causes this but

that is one stress of my job I can;t get around. LOL I am sure you will

have different things in your life that will do this as well.

And the next thing is REMEMBER we care about you! I am almost always

on the computer. Except bedtime or if I watch a movie. Even at work I

have my computer on, so feel free to email the list or me personally if

you need help. Actually I will email you my phone numbers so you can

call if you get in a jam.

--

Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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The worst saliva tests I've seen, for sure. No wonder you have

anxiety! LOW cortisol plus LOW thyroid!!! The high sex hormones

probably aren't helping, either. When adrenals are overworking, it

seems to me that they tend to put out more adrenaline, as well--nice

topper, huh?

Follow 's instructions and you'll be feeling LOTS better REAL soon!

Deborah

beth wrote:

> I'm on Transdermal E only. I had a complete hyst 7 years ago.

>

> I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo hoping I can get better. Are these the

> worst labs tests ever seen?

[Guest guest]

I'm calling uncle and following 's advice :):):)

Liz

The worst saliva tests I've seen, for sure. No wonder you have anxiety! LOW cortisol plus LOW thyroid!!! The high sex hormones probably aren't helping, either. When adrenals are overworking, it seems to me that they tend to put out more adrenaline, as well--nice topper, huh?Follow 's instructions and you'll be feeling LOTS better REAL soon!Deborah

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So glad I could say something to help! I have had mild to moderate

anxiety, but only on occasion. I have blamed that on my female

hormones (that are all elevated), because the anxiety always comes

right before a hot flash. Once I figured that out, it quit bothering

me so much because I knew what was happening. My understanding is

that the hydrocortisone should help the anxiety if it is adrenal

related. I hope that it can help you.

I am on 20 mg HC and 3 1/2 grains Armour (Thyroid-S). I got off the

HC for about 3 months, in order to do the Canary Club tests. Now that

I have seen the dismal results, I will not hesitate to stay on the HC

for as long as necessary, even forever. I will go up to 30 mg. HC if

needed. I have not had any " side effects " , only positive effects! I

was up to 4 grains Armour, and lowered it to 3 grains when I weaned

off the HC. And still, on 3 grains, my thyroid numbers are still the

pits. So I have a ways to go, but I am going to keep on keeping on,

and so should you.

Before I found the NTH group and got off Synthroid and onto Armour, I

thought that I would need to be put on Xanax. I knew if I went to the

doctor with all my complaints and INSISTED on treatment other than

Synthroid, I would be put on an anti-depressant and an anti-anxiety

drug. I knew if that happened, I would just give up. That's when I

decided to self-treat, and I've never looked back!

I know how hard it is to figure out which problem is causing which

symptoms. If I remember correctly, all your lab numbers were " not

good " . So it's no wonder you can't figure out what's meds, what's

adrenals, what's thyroid. suggested to me that my female

hormones may resolve themselves once I get the adrenal and thyroid

straightened out. I would suggest the same thing to you. Keep on the

HC and continue to raise your Armour. My heart goes out to you. It

must be so hard to get off the Xanax, on top of your other problems.

Hang in there, you can do it! Just look at me....I feel good enough

to write a way too long post (sorry about that!)!

Robin G.

>

> Oh, Robin, thank you so much for sharing this with me. I felt like I

was the

> only one and death was imminent. Did/do you have anxiety? That is my

> biggest battle. That and trying to wean off xanex. At this point I don't

> know what is meds, withdrawals, adrenals, thyroid. I'm just taking one

> moment at a time. I have started back up on the Cortef. Can you tell

me how

> much you are taking? And did/do you have any side effects?

>

> Hugs,

>

> Liz