Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 i just placed my first order for Three Lac. does anyone know if it is as strong as Diflucan or other prescription yeast meds? also, is Three Lac sufficient as a probiotic or do i need to give my daughter something in addition to it? anyone have any good success with it/good stories/bad stories? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 My understanding is that Threelac only addresses Candidia issues. So, yes I'm pretty sure you'll want to do a probiotic in addition to it to deal with gut bacteria and to promote " healthy flora " . When my ds was on it he also got Kirkman's Pro bio Gold along with Threelac. We've never been on prescription antifungals so I can't say for sure, but I believe they deal with clostridia (different type of yeast) and not so much Candidia. Maybe someone else knows more about that though. My ds was on Threelac for several months and we got major die off from it, but it didn't touch his bacterial or clostridia levels. We hadn't done any testing before starting Threelac, so I didn't have any numbers to compare to see if he had high Candidia levels to begin with. He just had the white coating on his tongue and fluffy yellowish poops (sorry tmi), which I read are signs of Candidia. Those symptoms improved with Threelac and with the die-off affects I can only assume that it was working. Later when we started seeing a DAN and did testing it didn't show high Candidia (which I hope meant that Threelac had dealt with that), but he did have extremely high levels of clostridia still. I've heard lots of success stories from Threelac, but our DAN told us to discontinue it due to a certain strain in it being prone to overgrowth and can become " pathogenic " (whatever that means?). I've never heard that from anyone else though, or seen it in any literature, so who knows if that's true:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Threelac is a full probiotic. If you like to take other probiotics at the same time it wont Hurt. The idea is to balance out the good and the bad bugs in the gut so one doesnt over dominate the other. as far as clostridia, there are numerous different variations to clostridia. Some you might have heard on here is C. Diff. Which is a bad bug that will cause lots of runny poops. We have been using threelac for a while and recently just upped the dosage to 3 packs a day, along with alkaseltzer Gold. So far it seems to be keeping the yeast bug at bay. Get your Threelac Here. As low as $33.95http://www.ghthealth.com/autism1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I'm sure that Chrystal can answer this more completely, but the overgrowth has to do with a strep strain that is in Threelac. There are many of us who have not had any problems with this overgrowth...it seems to be more specific to those children who are PANDAS kids. If your children were thriving on Threelac, there shouldn't be any concern for you. My family has done well on it, but there are many others who have sensativities to the casein and have problems with the strep strain. Threelac is not a traditional probiotic...it's pretty specific to fighting fungus, so you may want to supplement with other probiotics as well. Also, Threelac will not combat colistridia or any other bacterial issues. You will need an antibacterial for that. I would suggest looking into Olive Leaf Extract for that. Hope this helps, karen > > My understanding is that Threelac only addresses Candidia issues. So, > yes I'm pretty sure you'll want to do a probiotic in addition to it to > deal with gut bacteria and to promote " healthy flora " . When my ds was > on it he also got Kirkman's Pro bio Gold along with Threelac. We've > never been on prescription antifungals so I can't say for sure, but I > believe they deal with clostridia (different type of yeast) and not so > much Candidia. Maybe someone else knows more about that though. > > My ds was on Threelac for several months and we got major die off from > it, but it didn't touch his bacterial or clostridia levels. We hadn't > done any testing before starting Threelac, so I didn't have any > numbers to compare to see if he had high Candidia levels to begin > with. He just had the white coating on his tongue and fluffy yellowish > poops (sorry tmi), which I read are signs of Candidia. Those symptoms > improved with Threelac and with the die-off affects I can only assume > that it was working. Later when we started seeing a DAN and did > testing it didn't show high Candidia (which I hope meant that Threelac > had dealt with that), but he did have extremely high levels of > clostridia still. > > I've heard lots of success stories from Threelac, but our DAN told us > to discontinue it due to a certain strain in it being prone to > overgrowth and can become " pathogenic " (whatever that means?). I've > never heard that from anyone else though, or seen it in any > literature, so who knows if that's true:) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 thanks all for your detailed answers. i had no idea about the strep strain (think my daughter is ok in this regard - not a PANDAS kid) also, i'm going to look into a better everyday probiotic such as Kirkman's. i'm using culturelle for her now and have heard it has major milk and also it wreaks havoc with her intensines.... thanks again. > > Subject: Re: Three Lac questions... > To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 10:07 PM > I'm sure that Chrystal can answer this more completely, > but the > overgrowth has to do with a strep strain that is in > Threelac. There > are many of us who have not had any problems with this > overgrowth...it seems to be more specific to those children > who are > PANDAS kids. If your children were thriving on Threelac, > there > shouldn't be any concern for you. My family has done > well on it, but > there are many others who have sensativities to the casein > and have > problems with the strep strain. > > Threelac is not a traditional probiotic...it's pretty > specific to > fighting fungus, so you may want to supplement with other > probiotics > as well. > > Also, Threelac will not combat colistridia or any other > bacterial > issues. You will need an antibacterial for that. I would > suggest > looking into Olive Leaf Extract for that. > > Hope this helps, > karen > > > > > > My understanding is that Threelac only addresses > Candidia issues. > So, > > yes I'm pretty sure you'll want to do a > probiotic in addition to it > to > > deal with gut bacteria and to promote " healthy > flora " . When my ds > was > > on it he also got Kirkman's Pro bio Gold along > with Threelac. We've > > never been on prescription antifungals so I can't > say for sure, but > I > > believe they deal with clostridia (different type of > yeast) and not > so > > much Candidia. Maybe someone else knows more about > that though. > > > > My ds was on Threelac for several months and we got > major die off > from > > it, but it didn't touch his bacterial or > clostridia levels. We > hadn't > > done any testing before starting Threelac, so I > didn't have any > > numbers to compare to see if he had high Candidia > levels to begin > > with. He just had the white coating on his tongue and > fluffy > yellowish > > poops (sorry tmi), which I read are signs of Candidia. > Those > symptoms > > improved with Threelac and with the die-off affects I > can only > assume > > that it was working. Later when we started seeing a > DAN and did > > testing it didn't show high Candidia (which I hope > meant that > Threelac > > had dealt with that), but he did have extremely high > levels of > > clostridia still. > > > > I've heard lots of success stories from Threelac, > but our DAN told > us > > to discontinue it due to a certain strain in it being > prone to > > overgrowth and can become " pathogenic " > (whatever that means?). I've > > never heard that from anyone else though, or seen it > in any > > literature, so who knows if that's true:) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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