Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I would get him checked for PANDAS with those numbers and get him on a LARGE probiotic dose Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwisheshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 OLE - bacteria - dieoff - what to do next? Christel and others- Considering we have all this stuff going on fromthe Diflucan, what would you say would be a good starting dose of OLEfor my 4yo, 42lb. DS? I want to be gentle on his system, but at thesame time, if we have these many issues even after Difl was stopped,maybe the bacteria have taken over, and perhaps I should act soonerrather than later? Does this make sense, or should I let him 'recover'first?What kind of die-off can I expect from OLE?And kind of OT, but DS has been having behavior issues at school withthis whole issue, and will have a 2-week holiday break soon. Whatwould you suggest I can try out- I thought with school being out, Icould support his detox/die-off issues better at home. We really haveyeast, bacteria, and virus issues, and the bacteria #s are scarier.Varicella Zoster Titer 3.25 (1.09 and more is +ve)DDI Stool resultsPseudomonas Aeruginosa 4+Bacillus spp. 1+Enterobacter cloacae 2+Gamma Strep 4+Beta Strep not Grp A or B 4+Klebsiella Oxytoca 2+Proteus Mirabilis 2+Bifidobacterium and Lactobacc. spp. 0+E.coli and Enterococcus spp. 4+No yeast cultured in stool, but markers in OAT high.What can I do next so I don't do a repeat of this nightmare? Thanks somuch in advance - its great to have this kind of support and advice! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: 12/10/2008 9:30 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 His ASO titers were within range (lower end)- would that rule out PANDAS? What would be a large dose of probiotics? I replaced the VSL3 with something we used before called Ortho Biotic for the AM, and before bed he gets Klaire's Therbiotic Detox, and Factor 4. SHould I give more if the same, or try a new brand? Thanks again! > > I would get him checked for PANDAS with those numbers and get him on a LARGE probiotic dose > > Recovering from Autism is a marathon > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible! > Read more about it on my BLOGs at > http://www.myspace.com/christelking > http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 > > OLE - bacteria - dieoff - what to do next? > > > Christel and others- Considering we have all this stuff going on from > the Diflucan, what would you say would be a good starting dose of OLE > for my 4yo, 42lb. DS? I want to be gentle on his system, but at the > same time, if we have these many issues even after Difl was stopped, > maybe the bacteria have taken over, and perhaps I should act sooner > rather than later? Does this make sense, or should I let him 'recover' > first? > What kind of die-off can I expect from OLE? > > And kind of OT, but DS has been having behavior issues at school with > this whole issue, and will have a 2-week holiday break soon. What > would you suggest I can try out- I thought with school being out, I > could support his detox/die-off issues better at home. We really have > yeast, bacteria, and virus issues, and the bacteria #s are scarier. > > Varicella Zoster Titer 3.25 (1.09 and more is +ve) > > DDI Stool results > Pseudomonas Aeruginosa 4+ > Bacillus spp. 1+ > Enterobacter cloacae 2+ > Gamma Strep 4+ > Beta Strep not Grp A or B 4+ > Klebsiella Oxytoca 2+ > Proteus Mirabilis 2+ > > Bifidobacterium and Lactobacc. spp. 0+ > E.coli and Enterococcus spp. 4+ > > No yeast cultured in stool, but markers in OAT high. > > What can I do next so I don't do a repeat of this nightmare? Thanks so > much in advance - its great to have this kind of support and advice! > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: 12/10/2008 9:30 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 alot of this is a personal choice. titers timing is important to catching a dx. we have run titers the first 2 times we saw regression with our son, only to not catch it right. (we didn't realize you want to do it LATER after the regression catching it between 6-8 weeks. but for the dx of the strep you need it sooner, SO you may have to test a FEW times with a few weeks BETWEEN them to see if you can catch it Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwisheshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 OLE - bacteria - dieoff - what to do next?> > > Christel and others- Considering we have all this stuff going on from> the Diflucan, what would you say would be a good starting dose of OLE> for my 4yo, 42lb. DS? I want to be gentle on his system, but at the> same time, if we have these many issues even after Difl was stopped,> maybe the bacteria have taken over, and perhaps I should act sooner> rather than later? Does this make sense, or should I let him 'recover'> first?> What kind of die-off can I expect from OLE?> > And kind of OT, but DS has been having behavior issues at school with> this whole issue, and will have a 2-week holiday break soon. What> would you suggest I can try out- I thought with school being out, I> could support his detox/die-off issues better at home. We really have> yeast, bacteria, and virus issues, and the bacteria #s are scarier.> > Varicella Zoster Titer 3.25 (1.09 and more is +ve)> > DDI Stool results> Pseudomonas Aeruginosa 4+> Bacillus spp. 1+> Enterobacter cloacae 2+> Gamma Strep 4+> Beta Strep not Grp A or B 4+> Klebsiella Oxytoca 2+> Proteus Mirabilis 2+> > Bifidobacterium and Lactobacc. spp. 0+> E.coli and Enterococcus spp. 4+> > No yeast cultured in stool, but markers in OAT high.> > What can I do next so I don't do a repeat of this nightmare? Thanks so> much in advance - its great to have this kind of support and advice!> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date:12/10/2008 9:30 AM> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: 12/10/2008 9:30 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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