Re: Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions

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We love Klaire Detox probiotic. We've had no negative side effects and the only one I can say we see sustained benefits. I do rotate it with VSL but I like the Detox the best.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Marisa VogelSent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:29 AMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions

Hi everyone -

Is there a probiotic that everyone on here seems to agree is the best? I am unsure which one to buy, as I know there is a lot of variation.

Also, my son's sleep is really irregular since staring the valtrex. He used to sleep until 7am all the time. Now it is all over the place, sometimes he gets up at 4am for the day. Can anyone recommend a really good, safe sleep aid?

thanks everyone,

Marisa

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Marisa

For the probiotic..I think it differs for each child in what is tolerable and works.

If you are just starting I would suggest avoiding any with the strep strain as many

kids dont tolerate this well. Some do fine with it but avoiding it when starting will

possibly save you from wasting your valuable money : ) For my son Custom Probiotics

lactate free has worked best. It is pricey but in fact lasts much longer than the other

bottles of probiotics we have purchased.

http://www.customprobiotics.com/

I also use melatonin once in a while for sleep issues. My son is 2.5 and takes 1/2

to 1 mg. If i give it for a few weeks he then seems to sleep fine without if for about a month.

It is a great antioxidant also.

Hope this helps

38 and Mom to threeTasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pieElijah 2.. ASD and beautiful

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 8:29:10 AMSubject: Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions

Hi everyone -

Is there a probiotic that everyone on here seems to agree is the best? I am unsure which one to buy, as I know there is a lot of variation.

Also, my son's sleep is really irregular since staring the valtrex. He used to sleep until 7am all the time. Now it is all over the place, sometimes he gets up at 4am for the day. Can anyone recommend a really good, safe sleep aid?

thanks everyone,

Marisa

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if you are milk free know that VSL 3 has milk in it

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RE: Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions

We love Klaire Detox probiotic. We've had no negative side effects and the only one I can say we see sustained benefits. I do rotate it with VSL but I like the Detox the best.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Marisa VogelSent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:29 AMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions

Hi everyone -

Is there a probiotic that everyone on here seems to agree is the best? I am unsure which one to buy, as I know there is a lot of variation.

Also, my son's sleep is really irregular since staring the valtrex. He used to sleep until 7am all the time. Now it is all over the place, sometimes he gets up at 4am for the day. Can anyone recommend a really good, safe sleep aid?

thanks everyone,

Marisa

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Christel how did you determine that VSL #3 has milk in it?

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> if you are milk free know that VSL 3 has milk in it

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> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169

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> Is there a probiotic that everyone on here seems to agree is

the best? I am unsure which one to buy, as I know there is a lot of

variation.

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> Also, my son's sleep is really irregular since staring the

valtrex. He used to sleep until 7am all the time. Now it is all over

the place, sometimes he gets up at 4am for the day. Can anyone

recommend a really good, safe sleep aid?

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> thanks everyone,

> Marisa

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it says it right on the website

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Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions> > > > Hi everyone - > > > Is there a probiotic that everyone on here seems to agree is the best? I am unsure which one to buy, as I know there is a lot of variation.> > > Also, my son's sleep is really irregular since staring the valtrex. He used to sleep until 7am all the time. Now it is all over the place, sometimes he gets up at 4am for the day. Can anyone recommend a really good, safe sleep aid?> > > thanks everyone,> Marisa> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1826 - Release Date: 12/3/2008 9:34 AM>

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My son had a terrible problem with this probiotic and I found this after the fact on their website (he has such trouble with any dairy)...

http://www.vsl3.com/VSL3/about-faq.asp#faq-16

Can I take VSL#3® if I have an intolerance to dairy products?

Some dairy ingredients are used in the culture medium but are removed during fermentation and concentration. There might be trace amounts at very low levels and, for this reason, VSL#3® is not defined as a dairy-free product but as a non-dairy product. Evidence suggests that probiotics may be useful in the treatment of patients with lactose maldigestion and lactase deficiency. Recent studies have demonstrated that lactose is better digested from yogurt than from milk by lactase-deficient individuals and yogurt ingestion by these patients is paralleled by reduced symptoms. Many patients confirmed that their intolerance was greatly reduced with the use of VSL#3®. If you are lactose intolerant, you may wish to start with a very low intake of VSL#3® to see how you respond before increasing the amount.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 5:05:12 PMSubject: Re: Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions

Christel how did you determine that VSL #3 has milk in it?>> if you are milk free know that VSL 3 has milk in it> > Recovering from Autism is a marathon> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!> Read more about it on my BLOGs at> http://www.myspace. com/christelking> http://foggyrock. com/MyPage/ recoveringwishes> http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?id=677063169> > Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions> > > > Hi everyone - > > > Is there a probiotic that everyone on here seems to agree is the best? I am unsure which one to buy, as I know there is a lot of variation.> > > Also, my son's sleep is really irregular since staring the valtrex. He used to sleep until 7am all the time. Now it is all over the place, sometimes he gets up at 4am for the day. Can anyone recommend a really good, safe sleep aid?> > > thanks everyone,> Marisa> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----------> > >

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Can I take VSL#3® if I have an intolerance to dairy products?

Some dairy ingredients are used in the culture medium but are removed

during fermentation and concentration. There might be trace amounts

at very low levels and, for this reason, VSL#3® is not defined as a

dairy-free product but as a non-dairy product. Evidence suggests that

probiotics may be useful in the treatment of patients with lactose

maldigestion and lactase deficiency. Recent studies have demonstrated

that lactose is better digested from yogurt than from milk by lactase-

deficient individuals and yogurt ingestion by these patients is

paralleled by reduced symptoms. Many patients confirmed that their

intolerance was greatly reduced with the use of VSL#3®. If you are

lactose intolerant, you may wish to start with a very low intake of

VSL#3® to see how you respond before increasing the amount.

Christel I respectfully disagree and believe there is more to this

issue. I pulled this info from the site and have consulted with this

company. The dairy issue is confusing to most. It's similar to the

area of fermentation using sugar in the medium to promote bacteria

growth.

When I make fermented vegetables I add a form of sugar, but the

fermentation removes this sugar.

Many would stay away from VSL thinking it has dairy in it. When in

fact, the strains of bacteria cultured are what is needed for the

original problem of intolerance/sensitivity to begin with.

From my consults and research, VSL #3 is just about the best

probiotic available. I use this with my son. I believe the issue

needs more further exploration if in doubt.

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> > if you are milk free know that VSL 3 has milk in it

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> > Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> > Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> > http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> > http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169

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> > Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions

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> > Hi everyone -

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> > Is there a probiotic that everyone on here seems to agree is

> the best? I am unsure which one to buy, as I know there is a lot

of

> variation.

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> >

> > Also, my son's sleep is really irregular since staring the

> valtrex. He used to sleep until 7am all the time. Now it is all

over

> the place, sometimes he gets up at 4am for the day. Can anyone

> recommend a really good, safe sleep aid?

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> >

> > thanks everyone,

> > Marisa

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I believe the consentration is 12 PPM

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Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions> > > > > > > > Hi everyone - > > > > > > Is there a probiotic that everyone on here seems to agree is > the best? I am unsure which one to buy, as I know there is a lot of > variation.> > > > > > Also, my son's sleep is really irregular since staring the > valtrex. He used to sleep until 7am all the time. Now it is all over > the place, sometimes he gets up at 4am for the day. Can anyone > recommend a really good, safe sleep aid?> > > > > > thanks everyone,> > Marisa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> ----------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1826 - Release Date: > 12/3/2008 9:34 AM> >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 12/5/2008 7:08 PM>

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Just to add to the discussion and things to think about, the

information provided by the comapny that is quoted below says:

" If you are lactose intolerant, you may wish to start with a very low

intake of VSL#3® to see how you respond before increasing the amount. "

That is addressing the issue of lactose intolerance rather than

casein intolerance. Lactose intolerance is when your body does not

produce the enzymes necessary to break down the milk sugar. A person

with only lactose intolerance can take digestive enzymes and resolve

the digestive issues that occur when they ingest lactose (milk sugar).

Casein intolerance is an intolerance to the milk protein. Five out

of the six in my family have casein intolerance. We wouldn't try

VSL#3 because it has trace amounts of casein. The lactose issue is

addressed in Question #16 at the top of this brochure and the casein

issue (and soy) is addressed in Question #14 at the bottom:

http://www.orphan.com.au/pdfs/VSLLeaflet_0307.pdf

Interestingly, after reading Question #14 where they talk about the

minimal risk of casein and soy, their label reads that it contains

trace amounts of casein, but no soy:

http://www.nbnus.net/shopexd.asp?id=303

Just more food for thought.

>

> I believe the consentration is 12 PPM

>

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169

>

> Re: Sleeping and Pro Biotic Questions

>

>

> Can I take VSL#3® if I have an intolerance to dairy products?

> Some dairy ingredients are used in the culture medium but are

removed

> during fermentation and concentration. There might be trace

amounts

> at very low levels and, for this reason, VSL#3® is not defined as

a

> dairy-free product but as a non-dairy product. Evidence suggests

that

> probiotics may be useful in the treatment of patients with

lactose

> maldigestion and lactase deficiency. Recent studies have

demonstrated

> that lactose is better digested from yogurt than from milk by

lactase-

> deficient individuals and yogurt ingestion by these patients is

> paralleled by reduced symptoms. Many patients confirmed that

their

> intolerance was greatly reduced with the use of VSL#3®. If you

are

> lactose intolerant, you may wish to start with a very low intake

of

> VSL#3® to see how you respond before increasing the amount.

>

> Christel I respectfully disagree and believe there is more to

this

> issue. I pulled this info from the site and have consulted with

this

> company. The dairy issue is confusing to most. It's similar to

the

> area of fermentation using sugar in the medium to promote

bacteria

> growth.

>

> When I make fermented vegetables I add a form of sugar, but the

> fermentation removes this sugar.

>

> Many would stay away from VSL thinking it has dairy in it. When

in

> fact, the strains of bacteria cultured are what is needed for the

> original problem of intolerance/sensitivity to begin with.

>

> From my consults and research, VSL #3 is just about the best

> probiotic available. I use this with my son. I believe the issue

> needs more further exploration if in doubt.

>

>