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does it come and go?? has he been checked blood wise for strep? PANDAS comes to mind

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sweet nasal smell, tongue-in-nose still, hand stims

Hi - My son is post-surgery for adenoids/tonsils removal but before that he had sweet smelling nasal discharge and tongue constantly going into the nose. It is beyond annoying to watch him do this at this point. I noticed an even stronger smelling sweet smell coming from his nose -- would anyone wanna bet this is yeast? But it also seems like a OCD-type compulsion and he takes his tongue with hand and puts into into the nose -- usually both sides. He's being treated for the suspected bacteria from his lab tests with Septra and I was hoping this would help with both the tongue/nose compulsion along with the hand stims that he does when attempting to talk, or just out of the blue. He's also on anti-vitral and anti-fungals. What really seem to quiet this stuff some (maybe I am dreaming it) was OoO but backing off it now because he's healing from surgery. Any suggestions to help with these stims altho adding anything else at this point feels crazy. Maybe just needed to vent about the compulsions/stimming.Also, really is it yeast in his nose still coming out????????????Steph T. http://www.teach-speak.blogspot.com/

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yes he was checked - those two blood tests for PANDAS were " very

normal " says the doctor and I think we timed it right because it

wasn't right after the last flare but weeks later when we finally

tested. ? The tongue thing could be OCD and he started lining things

up (he's very OCD about doors since the summer) - we could've maybe

woken up the strep with all the anti-virals and taking out the

tonsils, etc.

The hand stims are him just trying to talk and it comes out as

squeals (he is somewhat verbal) and the hands just shake in front of

him with him looking peripherally or at the hands... I think this all

started after going off Prozac last fall-- he is doing it in his

Christmas pic last year. (there's a 2 min video on my blog of him

doing it)

The nose stuff (the guk part) I don't think is strep related but

started when we started anti-fungals and is was oozing sweet stuff

after surgery... he's snoring loud after the adenoids are out which

is supposed to help with the stuffed noses and any snoring. I am

guessing it could be blood and guk but I just haven't heard others

talk about the yeast coming outta the nose - just the butt.

SWT

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> does it come and go?? has he been checked blood wise for strep?

PANDAS comes to mind

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hand stims

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> Hi - My son is post-surgery for adenoids/tonsils removal but

before

> that he had sweet smelling nasal discharge and tongue constantly

> going into the nose. It is beyond annoying to watch him do this

at

> this point. I noticed an even stronger smelling sweet smell

coming

> from his nose -- would anyone wanna bet this is yeast? But it

also

> seems like a OCD-type compulsion and he takes his tongue with

hand

> and puts into into the nose -- usually both sides.

>

> He's being treated for the suspected bacteria from his lab tests

with

> Septra and I was hoping this would help with both the tongue/nose

> compulsion along with the hand stims that he does when attempting

to

> talk, or just out of the blue.

>

> He's also on anti-vitral and anti-fungals. What really seem to

quiet

> this stuff some (maybe I am dreaming it) was OoO but backing off

it

> now because he's healing from surgery.

>

> Any suggestions to help with these stims altho adding anything

else

> at this point feels crazy. Maybe just needed to vent about the

> compulsions/stimming.

>

> Also, really is it yeast in his nose still coming out????????????

>

> Steph T.

> http://www.teach-speak.blogspot.com/

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We've been battling the sweet stench over the last month and a half

as well. For our son, it was coming from his nose and mouth and also

his bowel (gas and stool). It started when we had to discontinue

probiotics, antibacterials, antifungals, etc. prior to being scoped.

I'm really thinking it's bacterial. And funny you should mention

that OoO might be helping, because my son's sweet/rotten smell has

gone down a lot since starting OoO here too.

Since it's primarily his nose (and likely then his sinuses) perhaps

some sort of nasal spray might help? Do you have a DAN that might

prescribe a compounded antifungal/antibacterial nasal spray? Our DAN

prescribed an amphotericin B antifungal spray for us in the past, and

we had it specially compounded. Or maybe a sinus flush with a

netipot? Now whether your child would actually let you do that or

not is another question...

Sheri

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> Hi - My son is post-surgery for adenoids/tonsils removal but before

> that he had sweet smelling nasal discharge and tongue constantly

> going into the nose. It is beyond annoying to watch him do this at

> this point. I noticed an even stronger smelling sweet smell coming

> from his nose -- would anyone wanna bet this is yeast? But it also

> seems like a OCD-type compulsion and he takes his tongue with hand

> and puts into into the nose -- usually both sides.

>

> He's being treated for the suspected bacteria from his lab tests

with

> Septra and I was hoping this would help with both the tongue/nose

> compulsion along with the hand stims that he does when attempting

to

> talk, or just out of the blue.

>

> He's also on anti-vitral and anti-fungals. What really seem to

quiet

> this stuff some (maybe I am dreaming it) was OoO but backing off it

> now because he's healing from surgery.

>

> Any suggestions to help with these stims altho adding anything else

> at this point feels crazy. Maybe just needed to vent about the

> compulsions/stimming.

>

> Also, really is it yeast in his nose still coming out????????????

>

> Steph T.

> http://www.teach-speak.blogspot.com/

>

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the nose thing and snoring sounds like classic IGE issues

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sweet nasal smell, tongue-in-nose still, hand stims> > > Hi - My son is post-surgery for adenoids/tonsils removal but before > that he had sweet smelling nasal discharge and tongue constantly > going into the nose. It is beyond annoying to watch him do this at > this point. I noticed an even stronger smelling sweet smell coming > from his nose -- would anyone wanna bet this is yeast? But it also > seems like a OCD-type compulsion and he takes his tongue with hand > and puts into into the nose -- usually both sides. > > He's being treated for the suspected bacteria from his lab tests with > Septra and I was hoping this would help with both the tongue/nose > compulsion along with the hand stims that he does when attempting to > talk, or just out of the blue. > > He's also on anti-vitral and anti-fungals. What really seem to quiet > this stuff some (maybe I am dreaming it) was OoO but backing off it > now because he's healing from surgery. > > Any suggestions to help with these stims altho adding anything else > at this point feels crazy. Maybe just needed to vent about the > compulsions/stimming.> > Also, really is it yeast in his nose still coming out????????????> > Steph T. > http://www.teach-speak.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1843 - Release Date: 12/11/2008 8:36 AM>

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the hand thing sounds viral, and low VIT A in our house would present that way with visual stims and would also go away when supplimented with that

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sweet nasal smell, tongue-in-nose still, hand stims> > > Hi - My son is post-surgery for adenoids/tonsils removal but before > that he had sweet smelling nasal discharge and tongue constantly > going into the nose. It is beyond annoying to watch him do this at > this point. I noticed an even stronger smelling sweet smell coming > from his nose -- would anyone wanna bet this is yeast? But it also > seems like a OCD-type compulsion and he takes his tongue with hand > and puts into into the nose -- usually both sides. > > He's being treated for the suspected bacteria from his lab tests with > Septra and I was hoping this would help with both the tongue/nose > compulsion along with the hand stims that he does when attempting to > talk, or just out of the blue. > > He's also on anti-vitral and anti-fungals. What really seem to quiet > this stuff some (maybe I am dreaming it) was OoO but backing off it > now because he's healing from surgery. > > Any suggestions to help with these stims altho adding anything else > at this point feels crazy. Maybe just needed to vent about the > compulsions/stimming.> > Also, really is it yeast in his nose still coming out????????????> > Steph T. > http://www.teach-speak.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1843 - Release Date: 12/11/2008 8:36 AM>

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