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Hi Sis,

Okay, I will try and give you the reader's digest version.

Made the worst decision of my life in May 2002 (decided to get the implants). Was implanted with Mentor Saline anatomical by a NYC surgeon. Prior to getting implants I was THE vision of health. I was in the best shape of my life as I had been lifting weights at the gym and running 16 to 20 miles per week. I had no weight problems, my hair was long and thick, my nails were strong and healthy and so was my skin.

The surgery was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. But, for the first 3 to 4 months I was in my glory.... the boobs looked great.

Then Sept. of 2002 I suddenly packed on about 20lbs. My hair was falling out all over the place. My nails began to peel and crack off. I developed severe acne. My whole body filled up with this mysterious fluid (water retention). The water retention was so bad that I was barely recognizable. Then I developed very very stiff and painful muscles and joints. I was unable to grip a pen, I could barely get out of bed due to the pain. I literally struggled to walk up and down the steps in my house. At first I just attributed this all to working out alittle harder.... but realizing that I had not worked out any harder and infact, I began forcing myself to do the workouts that came so easily to me for 13 years. I became so weak after the workouts that I went straight to bed after them. I became a non- sexual being if ya know what I mean.

I felt I had to do something right away.... so the first phone call I made was to my implanting PS. I asked him if it could possibly be the implants that did this to me. He said, no, NO WAY.... you have the safe saline. So, with that I did research on the internet regarding my symptoms. I kept coming across thyroid disorders. So, went to primary care guy and got tested. Thyroid tests came out beautiful normal. Did more research and found out that it is possible to have normal tests and still have thyroid disorder..... so, found another guy who would give me a trial of armour thyroid. He did just that even though he ran MORE thyroid tests and I was even more normal on those tests. The thyroid hormone never relieved all of my symptoms except when we added cytomel (t3) that was the only thing that did take away the pain.... only to a point.

I went on like this suffering for almost three years and being on an ASTRONOMICAL amount of thyroid meds in attempt to have symptom relief. My highest dose went to 6 grains armour and 25 mcg cytomel at one point.

So, I was forced to face the music. I did some research on implants. I came across this site. I found all of these women with these same problems and shockingly even worse problems. I knew in my heart that I was well before I made the fateful decision and I knew that I had to get the things out fast.

I explanted with Dr. Feng (love her!) in April of 2005. Immediately and I mean immediately all of the pain in my body was gone. I was no longer stiff. The strange bloat that made my face the size of a freakin' basketball (no I'm no kidding) immediately ceased.

A month later my body rejected all of that thyroid med and I had to reduce it to 1/5th the amount I was on. At one point I had stopped it completely but I had to add back a small amount soon after because I started having subtle hypothyroid symptoms.

Just recently my nails are starting to grow back like normal which indicates to me that maybe I'm on the right track and my hair will eventually catch up. It's been falling out like mad and I'm afraid I'll go bald. Hopefully all of this loss is just my body readjusting after all it's been through. Wishful thinking.. but possible.

Right now I get periods of dizziness, low blood pressure and fatigue at times. It gets really bad when I endure stress... which makes me think I could have a little adrenal issue going on.... that's why I had the tests done by the endocrinologist. And truthfully, I don't even trust the way this endo is even interpreting the tests because after all... she is an endo and if you don't fit into their guidelines... your fine. Could be the beginning stages of adrenal fatigue.

So, that's it. Dawn

auntsisnj & lt;auntsisnj@... & gt; wrote: Hi Dawn,I've been coming to this site for about 4 months now, I think - probably after you had your explant. Would you be willing to share your story, so I'm more familiar with it? I got my implants in May of 2005 and immediately had symptoms, and they continued to get progressively worse, and after six months I had them explanted by Dr. Feng. I'm still suffering from symptoms, but it's only been a little more than 2 months. This year has been such a nightmare.Sis> > >> > > There must be some autoimmune link with the> > bladder/kidneys. I > > had a> > > cluster of autoimmune issues and IC. All of the> > other autoimmune > > problems> > > have been completely gone for several years, the> > IC still plagues > > me from> > > time to time, although not nearly as painfully as> > it did before > >

detoxing.> > > > > > Kenda> > > > > > > So very many of us women have suffered from some> > sort of kidney> > > > weakness, bladder infection, UTI's or IC, or> > cystitis! What's up> > > > with that!? > > > > > > > > I wonder if the silicone somehow damages our> > kidneys? Or what > > the> > > > connection is between autoimmune diseases and> > weak kidneys?> > > > > > > > Patty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place> > of advice given by licensed health care> > professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> > health care professional before commencing any> > medical treatment. >

> > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the> > politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts> > are, and make your own decisions about how to live a> > happy life and how to work for a better world." -> > Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access> > at this link:> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/> > > >

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Hi Dawn, and welcome back,

Wow, 6 grains of armour! That is incredible. I have a verified

thyroid disorder and the most I think I have taken at one time is 2

grains!

I am sorry you are still dealing with these mysterious symptoms. I

see that you were explanted not quite a year ago, so perhaps you

just need more time to detox and get better. Unfortunately, I found

that detoxing had to become a way of life for me, doing things every

so often to cleanse internally. It sounds like that is what you are

experiencing too.

It does sound like it could be adrenal fatigue that you are dealing

with. Our endocrine system is so delicate. Toxic exposures can

wreak such havoc with that fragile balance system going on in our

bodies. I hope your doctor is astute enough to figure it out for

you, but I can understand your skepticism too. Mine endo was

supposed to be top notch, but I was less than impressed as well. We

can be feeling like total crap, and they look at those test results,

and say, " You're doing great! "

Yeah, right.

Anyway, thanks for that reader's digest version....it helps to bring

it all into perspective. It always helps us to see the bigger

picture of our healing process when we can look back over a period

of time. It's just a slow process, and takes a bit of work. But I

believe there are answers. Thanks for sharing, and be sure to keep

us updated!

Patty

>

>

> Hi Sis,

> Okay, I will try and give you the reader's digest version.

> Made the worst decision of my life in May 2002 (decided to get the

implants). Was implanted with Mentor Saline anatomical by a NYC

surgeon. Prior to getting implants I was THE vision of health. I was

in the best shape of my life as I had been lifting weights at the

gym and running 16 to 20 miles per week. I had no weight problems,

my hair was long and thick, my nails were strong and healthy and so

was my skin.

> The surgery was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. But,

for the first 3 to 4 months I was in my glory.... the boobs looked

great.

> Then Sept. of 2002 I suddenly packed on about 20lbs. My hair was

falling out all over the place. My nails began to peel and crack

off. I developed severe acne. My whole body filled up with this

mysterious fluid (water retention). The water retention was so bad

that I was barely recognizable. Then I developed very very stiff

and painful muscles and joints. I was unable to grip a pen, I could

barely get out of bed due to the pain. I literally struggled to walk

up and down the steps in my house. At first I just attributed this

all to working out alittle harder.... but realizing that I had not

worked out any harder and infact, I began forcing myself to do the

workouts that came so easily to me for 13 years. I became so weak

after the workouts that I went straight to bed after them. I became

a non- sexual being if ya know what I mean.

> I felt I had to do something right away.... so the first phone

call I made was to my implanting PS. I asked him if it could

possibly be the implants that did this to me. He said, no, NO

WAY.... you have the safe saline. So, with that I did research on

the internet regarding my symptoms. I kept coming across thyroid

disorders. So, went to primary care guy and got tested. Thyroid

tests came out beautiful normal. Did more research and found out

that it is possible to have normal tests and still have thyroid

disorder..... so, found another guy who would give me a trial of

armour thyroid. He did just that even though he ran MORE thyroid

tests and I was even more normal on those tests.

> The thyroid hormone never relieved all of my symptoms except when

we added cytomel (t3) that was the only thing that did take away the

pain.... only to a point.

> I went on like this suffering for almost three years and being on

an ASTRONOMICAL amount of thyroid meds in attempt to have symptom

relief. My highest dose went to 6 grains armour and 25 mcg cytomel

at one point.

> So, I was forced to face the music. I did some research on

implants. I came across this site. I found all of these women with

these same problems and shockingly even worse problems. I knew in my

heart that I was well before I made the fateful decision and I knew

that I had to get the things out fast.

> I explanted with Dr. Feng (love her!) in April of 2005.

> Immediately and I mean immediately all of the pain in my body was

gone. I was no longer stiff. The strange bloat that made my face the

size of a freakin' basketball (no I'm no kidding) immediately ceased.

> A month later my body rejected all of that thyroid med and I had

to reduce it to 1/5th the amount I was on. At one point I had

stopped it completely but I had to add back a small amount soon

after because I started having subtle hypothyroid symptoms.

> Just recently my nails are starting to grow back like normal which

indicates to me that maybe I'm on the right track and my hair will

eventually catch up. It's been falling out like mad and I'm afraid

I'll go bald. Hopefully all of this loss is just my body readjusting

after all it's been through. Wishful thinking.. but possible.

> Right now I get periods of dizziness, low blood pressure and

fatigue at times. It gets really bad when I endure stress... which

makes me think I could have a little adrenal issue going on....

that's why I had the tests done by the endocrinologist. And

truthfully, I don't even trust the way this endo is even

interpreting the tests because after all... she is an endo and if

you don't fit into their guidelines... your fine. Could be the

beginning stages of adrenal fatigue.

> So, that's it.

> Dawn

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Hi Patty,

I wonder if once the body is poisoned with implants, or other toxins strong

enough to cause similar problems, if detoxing is always necessary.

Personally, I don't know what caused all of my health issues, all I can come

up with is pneumonia caused from scrubbing floors with straight ammonia. 19

years ago. My fibro symptoms and cluster of other problems happened within

a year from that date. It was bad enough to cause lung scarring. Anyway,

as you know, I have to eat right and detox, like Rogene, to stay healthy. I

wonder if our systems are permanently injured somehow but detoxing can keep

us going. Just a thought.

Kenda

> Hi Dawn, and welcome back,

> Wow, 6 grains of armour! That is incredible. I have a verified

> thyroid disorder and the most I think I have taken at one time is 2

> grains!

>

> I am sorry you are still dealing with these mysterious symptoms. I

> see that you were explanted not quite a year ago, so perhaps you

> just need more time to detox and get better. Unfortunately, I found

> that detoxing had to become a way of life for me, doing things every

> so often to cleanse internally. It sounds like that is what you are

> experiencing too.

>

> It does sound like it could be adrenal fatigue that you are dealing

> with. Our endocrine system is so delicate. Toxic exposures can

> wreak such havoc with that fragile balance system going on in our

> bodies. I hope your doctor is astute enough to figure it out for

> you, but I can understand your skepticism too. Mine endo was

> supposed to be top notch, but I was less than impressed as well. We

> can be feeling like total crap, and they look at those test results,

> and say, " You're doing great! "

>

> Yeah, right.

>

> Anyway, thanks for that reader's digest version....it helps to bring

> it all into perspective. It always helps us to see the bigger

> picture of our healing process when we can look back over a period

> of time. It's just a slow process, and takes a bit of work. But I

> believe there are answers. Thanks for sharing, and be sure to keep

> us updated!

> Patty

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> Hi Sis,

>> Okay, I will try and give you the reader's digest version.

>> Made the worst decision of my life in May 2002 (decided to get the

> implants). Was implanted with Mentor Saline anatomical by a NYC

> surgeon. Prior to getting implants I was THE vision of health. I was

> in the best shape of my life as I had been lifting weights at the

> gym and running 16 to 20 miles per week. I had no weight problems,

> my hair was long and thick, my nails were strong and healthy and so

> was my skin.

>> The surgery was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. But,

> for the first 3 to 4 months I was in my glory.... the boobs looked

> great.

>> Then Sept. of 2002 I suddenly packed on about 20lbs. My hair was

> falling out all over the place. My nails began to peel and crack

> off. I developed severe acne. My whole body filled up with this

> mysterious fluid (water retention). The water retention was so bad

> that I was barely recognizable. Then I developed very very stiff

> and painful muscles and joints. I was unable to grip a pen, I could

> barely get out of bed due to the pain. I literally struggled to walk

> up and down the steps in my house. At first I just attributed this

> all to working out alittle harder.... but realizing that I had not

> worked out any harder and infact, I began forcing myself to do the

> workouts that came so easily to me for 13 years. I became so weak

> after the workouts that I went straight to bed after them. I became

> a non- sexual being if ya know what I mean.

>> I felt I had to do something right away.... so the first phone

> call I made was to my implanting PS. I asked him if it could

> possibly be the implants that did this to me. He said, no, NO

> WAY.... you have the safe saline. So, with that I did research on

> the internet regarding my symptoms. I kept coming across thyroid

> disorders. So, went to primary care guy and got tested. Thyroid

> tests came out beautiful normal. Did more research and found out

> that it is possible to have normal tests and still have thyroid

> disorder..... so, found another guy who would give me a trial of

> armour thyroid. He did just that even though he ran MORE thyroid

> tests and I was even more normal on those tests.

>> The thyroid hormone never relieved all of my symptoms except when

> we added cytomel (t3) that was the only thing that did take away the

> pain.... only to a point.

>> I went on like this suffering for almost three years and being on

> an ASTRONOMICAL amount of thyroid meds in attempt to have symptom

> relief. My highest dose went to 6 grains armour and 25 mcg cytomel

> at one point.

>> So, I was forced to face the music. I did some research on

> implants. I came across this site. I found all of these women with

> these same problems and shockingly even worse problems. I knew in my

> heart that I was well before I made the fateful decision and I knew

> that I had to get the things out fast.

>> I explanted with Dr. Feng (love her!) in April of 2005.

>> Immediately and I mean immediately all of the pain in my body was

> gone. I was no longer stiff. The strange bloat that made my face the

> size of a freakin' basketball (no I'm no kidding) immediately ceased.

>> A month later my body rejected all of that thyroid med and I had

> to reduce it to 1/5th the amount I was on. At one point I had

> stopped it completely but I had to add back a small amount soon

> after because I started having subtle hypothyroid symptoms.

>> Just recently my nails are starting to grow back like normal which

> indicates to me that maybe I'm on the right track and my hair will

> eventually catch up. It's been falling out like mad and I'm afraid

> I'll go bald. Hopefully all of this loss is just my body readjusting

> after all it's been through. Wishful thinking.. but possible.

>> Right now I get periods of dizziness, low blood pressure and

> fatigue at times. It gets really bad when I endure stress... which

> makes me think I could have a little adrenal issue going on....

> that's why I had the tests done by the endocrinologist. And

> truthfully, I don't even trust the way this endo is even

> interpreting the tests because after all... she is an endo and if

> you don't fit into their guidelines... your fine. Could be the

> beginning stages of adrenal fatigue.

>> So, that's it.

>> Dawn

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

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I hope you feel better soon, Dawn. You have been through so much already.

I take an adrenal supplement by the name of Isocort that might help you. I

don't know if you're up for trying supplements without a doctor prescribing

them, but it has worked wonders for me. The only problem with it is if your

liver isn't working up to par, you may not clear it out of your system and

may be wired from it. At one point I was so toxic that I couldn't handle

1/2 tablet, but now happily take 7 or 8 teeny tablets per day. :) It's an

adrenal supplement, similar to thyroid meds for the thyroid. It doesn't

help the adrenals work, it fills in the gap when they are under working.

Not ideal for those who want to feed their body to help it function

naturally, but that route doesn't work for some of us. It sure didn't for

me. :(

Take care,

Kenda

> Hi Sis,

> Okay, I will try and give you the reader's digest version.

> Made the worst decision of my life in May 2002 (decided to get the implants).

> Was implanted with Mentor Saline anatomical by a NYC surgeon. Prior to getting

> implants I was THE vision of health. I was in the best shape of my life as I

> had been lifting weights at the gym and running 16 to 20 miles per week. I had

> no weight problems, my hair was long and thick, my nails were strong and

> healthy and so was my skin.

> The surgery was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. But, for the first

> 3 to 4 months I was in my glory.... the boobs looked great.

> Then Sept. of 2002 I suddenly packed on about 20lbs. My hair was falling out

> all over the place. My nails began to peel and crack off. I developed severe

> acne. My whole body filled up with this mysterious fluid (water retention).

> The water retention was so bad that I was barely recognizable. Then I

> developed very very stiff and painful muscles and joints. I was unable to grip

> a pen, I could barely get out of bed due to the pain. I literally struggled to

> walk up and down the steps in my house. At first I just attributed this all to

> working out alittle harder.... but realizing that I had not worked out any

> harder and infact, I began forcing myself to do the workouts that came so

> easily to me for 13 years. I became so weak after the workouts that I went

> straight to bed after them. I became a non- sexual being if ya know what I

> mean.

> I felt I had to do something right away.... so the first phone call I made was

> to my implanting PS. I asked him if it could possibly be the implants that did

> this to me. He said, no, NO WAY.... you have the safe saline. So, with that I

> did research on the internet regarding my symptoms. I kept coming across

> thyroid disorders. So, went to primary care guy and got tested. Thyroid tests

> came out beautiful normal. Did more research and found out that it is possible

> to have normal tests and still have thyroid disorder..... so, found another

> guy who would give me a trial of armour thyroid. He did just that even though

> he ran MORE thyroid tests and I was even more normal on those tests.

> The thyroid hormone never relieved all of my symptoms except when we added

> cytomel (t3) that was the only thing that did take away the pain.... only to a

> point.

> I went on like this suffering for almost three years and being on an

> ASTRONOMICAL amount of thyroid meds in attempt to have symptom relief. My

> highest dose went to 6 grains armour and 25 mcg cytomel at one point.

> So, I was forced to face the music. I did some research on implants. I came

> across this site. I found all of these women with these same problems and

> shockingly even worse problems. I knew in my heart that I was well before I

> made the fateful decision and I knew that I had to get the things out fast.

> I explanted with Dr. Feng (love her!) in April of 2005.

> Immediately and I mean immediately all of the pain in my body was gone. I was

> no longer stiff. The strange bloat that made my face the size of a freakin'

> basketball (no I'm no kidding) immediately ceased.

> A month later my body rejected all of that thyroid med and I had to reduce it

> to 1/5th the amount I was on. At one point I had stopped it completely but I

> had to add back a small amount soon after because I started having subtle

> hypothyroid symptoms.

> Just recently my nails are starting to grow back like normal which indicates

> to me that maybe I'm on the right track and my hair will eventually catch up.

> It's been falling out like mad and I'm afraid I'll go bald. Hopefully all of

> this loss is just my body readjusting after all it's been through. Wishful

> thinking.. but possible.

> Right now I get periods of dizziness, low blood pressure and fatigue at times.

> It gets really bad when I endure stress... which makes me think I could have a

> little adrenal issue going on.... that's why I had the tests done by the

> endocrinologist. And truthfully, I don't even trust the way this endo is even

> interpreting the tests because after all... she is an endo and if you don't

> fit into their guidelines... your fine. Could be the beginning stages of

> adrenal fatigue.

> So, that's it.

> Dawn

> auntsisnj & lt;auntsisnj@... & gt; wrote: Hi Dawn,

>

> I've been coming to this site for about 4 months now, I think -

> probably after you had your explant. Would you be willing to share

> your story, so I'm more familiar with it? I got my implants in May

> of 2005 and immediately had symptoms, and they continued to get

> progressively worse, and after six months I had them explanted by

> Dr. Feng. I'm still suffering from symptoms, but it's only been a

> little more than 2 months. This year has been such a nightmare.

>

> Sis

>

>

>>>>

>>>> There must be some autoimmune link with the

>>> bladder/kidneys. I

>>> had a

>>>> cluster of autoimmune issues and IC. All of the

>>> other autoimmune

>>> problems

>>>> have been completely gone for several years, the

>>> IC still plagues

>>> me from

>>>> time to time, although not nearly as painfully as

>>> it did before

>>> detoxing.

>>>>

>>>> Kenda

>>>>

>>>>> So very many of us women have suffered from some

>>> sort of kidney

>>>>> weakness, bladder infection, UTI's or IC, or

>>> cystitis! What's up

>>>>> with that!?

>>>>>

>>>>> I wonder if the silicone somehow damages our

>>> kidneys? Or what

>>> the

>>>>> connection is between autoimmune diseases and

>>> weak kidneys?

>>>>>

>>>>> Patty

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

>>> of advice given by licensed health care

>>> professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>>> health care professional before commencing any

>>> medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

>>> politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

>>> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

>>> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>>> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access

>>> at this link:

>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>

>>>

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Kenda,

That is what I believe as well. I have to walk that same balance

beam that Rogene does, although I can push myself pretty far and

cheat on my diet regularly. But I always have to go back to doing

coffee enemas, fasting and taking supplements (which I cycle). I

think exercise is also very important.

I don't know if it is a case of permanent damage to organs, hormonal

systems, or depleted enzymes, or what, but I do think that there is

some component of permanent damage or alteration in our bodies that

forces us to adjust our lifestyles for the long term, including

regular detoxing to assist the liver.

Interesting that you are going through the same things we are! Very

eye opening Kenda, thank you!

Patty

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi Sis,

> >> Okay, I will try and give you the reader's digest version.

> >> Made the worst decision of my life in May 2002 (decided to get

the

> > implants). Was implanted with Mentor Saline anatomical by a NYC

> > surgeon. Prior to getting implants I was THE vision of health. I

was

> > in the best shape of my life as I had been lifting weights at the

> > gym and running 16 to 20 miles per week. I had no weight

problems,

> > my hair was long and thick, my nails were strong and healthy and

so

> > was my skin.

> >> The surgery was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. But,

> > for the first 3 to 4 months I was in my glory.... the boobs

looked

> > great.

> >> Then Sept. of 2002 I suddenly packed on about 20lbs. My hair was

> > falling out all over the place. My nails began to peel and crack

> > off. I developed severe acne. My whole body filled up with this

> > mysterious fluid (water retention). The water retention was so

bad

> > that I was barely recognizable. Then I developed very very stiff

> > and painful muscles and joints. I was unable to grip a pen, I

could

> > barely get out of bed due to the pain. I literally struggled to

walk

> > up and down the steps in my house. At first I just attributed

this

> > all to working out alittle harder.... but realizing that I had

not

> > worked out any harder and infact, I began forcing myself to do

the

> > workouts that came so easily to me for 13 years. I became so weak

> > after the workouts that I went straight to bed after them. I

became

> > a non- sexual being if ya know what I mean.

> >> I felt I had to do something right away.... so the first phone

> > call I made was to my implanting PS. I asked him if it could

> > possibly be the implants that did this to me. He said, no, NO

> > WAY.... you have the safe saline. So, with that I did research

on

> > the internet regarding my symptoms. I kept coming across thyroid

> > disorders. So, went to primary care guy and got tested. Thyroid

> > tests came out beautiful normal. Did more research and found out

> > that it is possible to have normal tests and still have thyroid

> > disorder..... so, found another guy who would give me a trial of

> > armour thyroid. He did just that even though he ran MORE thyroid

> > tests and I was even more normal on those tests.

> >> The thyroid hormone never relieved all of my symptoms except

when

> > we added cytomel (t3) that was the only thing that did take away

the

> > pain.... only to a point.

> >> I went on like this suffering for almost three years and being

on

> > an ASTRONOMICAL amount of thyroid meds in attempt to have symptom

> > relief. My highest dose went to 6 grains armour and 25 mcg

cytomel

> > at one point.

> >> So, I was forced to face the music. I did some research on

> > implants. I came across this site. I found all of these women

with

> > these same problems and shockingly even worse problems. I knew

in my

> > heart that I was well before I made the fateful decision and I

knew

> > that I had to get the things out fast.

> >> I explanted with Dr. Feng (love her!) in April of 2005.

> >> Immediately and I mean immediately all of the pain in my body

was

> > gone. I was no longer stiff. The strange bloat that made my face

the

> > size of a freakin' basketball (no I'm no kidding) immediately

ceased.

> >> A month later my body rejected all of that thyroid med and I had

> > to reduce it to 1/5th the amount I was on. At one point I had

> > stopped it completely but I had to add back a small amount soon

> > after because I started having subtle hypothyroid symptoms.

> >> Just recently my nails are starting to grow back like normal

which

> > indicates to me that maybe I'm on the right track and my hair

will

> > eventually catch up. It's been falling out like mad and I'm

afraid

> > I'll go bald. Hopefully all of this loss is just my body

readjusting

> > after all it's been through. Wishful thinking.. but possible.

> >> Right now I get periods of dizziness, low blood pressure and

> > fatigue at times. It gets really bad when I endure stress...

which

> > makes me think I could have a little adrenal issue going on....

> > that's why I had the tests done by the endocrinologist. And

> > truthfully, I don't even trust the way this endo is even

> > interpreting the tests because after all... she is an endo and if

> > you don't fit into their guidelines... your fine. Could be the

> > beginning stages of adrenal fatigue.

> >> So, that's it.

> >> Dawn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

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Patty,

The similarities are very strange indeed! It gives me a very clear idea of

where I would have been had I been implanted. Scary as hell! The docs then

could have told me that I simply relapsed and washed their hands of me.

Kenda

> Kenda,

> That is what I believe as well. I have to walk that same balance

> beam that Rogene does, although I can push myself pretty far and

> cheat on my diet regularly. But I always have to go back to doing

> coffee enemas, fasting and taking supplements (which I cycle). I

> think exercise is also very important.

>

> I don't know if it is a case of permanent damage to organs, hormonal

> systems, or depleted enzymes, or what, but I do think that there is

> some component of permanent damage or alteration in our bodies that

> forces us to adjust our lifestyles for the long term, including

> regular detoxing to assist the liver.

>

> Interesting that you are going through the same things we are! Very

> eye opening Kenda, thank you!

> Patty

>

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Hi Sis,

>>>> Okay, I will try and give you the reader's digest version.

>>>> Made the worst decision of my life in May 2002 (decided to get

> the

>>> implants). Was implanted with Mentor Saline anatomical by a NYC

>>> surgeon. Prior to getting implants I was THE vision of health. I

> was

>>> in the best shape of my life as I had been lifting weights at the

>>> gym and running 16 to 20 miles per week. I had no weight

> problems,

>>> my hair was long and thick, my nails were strong and healthy and

> so

>>> was my skin.

>>>> The surgery was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. But,

>>> for the first 3 to 4 months I was in my glory.... the boobs

> looked

>>> great.

>>>> Then Sept. of 2002 I suddenly packed on about 20lbs. My hair was

>>> falling out all over the place. My nails began to peel and crack

>>> off. I developed severe acne. My whole body filled up with this

>>> mysterious fluid (water retention). The water retention was so

> bad

>>> that I was barely recognizable. Then I developed very very stiff

>>> and painful muscles and joints. I was unable to grip a pen, I

> could

>>> barely get out of bed due to the pain. I literally struggled to

> walk

>>> up and down the steps in my house. At first I just attributed

> this

>>> all to working out alittle harder.... but realizing that I had

> not

>>> worked out any harder and infact, I began forcing myself to do

> the

>>> workouts that came so easily to me for 13 years. I became so weak

>>> after the workouts that I went straight to bed after them. I

> became

>>> a non- sexual being if ya know what I mean.

>>>> I felt I had to do something right away.... so the first phone

>>> call I made was to my implanting PS. I asked him if it could

>>> possibly be the implants that did this to me. He said, no, NO

>>> WAY.... you have the safe saline. So, with that I did research

> on

>>> the internet regarding my symptoms. I kept coming across thyroid

>>> disorders. So, went to primary care guy and got tested. Thyroid

>>> tests came out beautiful normal. Did more research and found out

>>> that it is possible to have normal tests and still have thyroid

>>> disorder..... so, found another guy who would give me a trial of

>>> armour thyroid. He did just that even though he ran MORE thyroid

>>> tests and I was even more normal on those tests.

>>>> The thyroid hormone never relieved all of my symptoms except

> when

>>> we added cytomel (t3) that was the only thing that did take away

> the

>>> pain.... only to a point.

>>>> I went on like this suffering for almost three years and being

> on

>>> an ASTRONOMICAL amount of thyroid meds in attempt to have symptom

>>> relief. My highest dose went to 6 grains armour and 25 mcg

> cytomel

>>> at one point.

>>>> So, I was forced to face the music. I did some research on

>>> implants. I came across this site. I found all of these women

> with

>>> these same problems and shockingly even worse problems. I knew

> in my

>>> heart that I was well before I made the fateful decision and I

> knew

>>> that I had to get the things out fast.

>>>> I explanted with Dr. Feng (love her!) in April of 2005.

>>>> Immediately and I mean immediately all of the pain in my body

> was

>>> gone. I was no longer stiff. The strange bloat that made my face

> the

>>> size of a freakin' basketball (no I'm no kidding) immediately

> ceased.

>>>> A month later my body rejected all of that thyroid med and I had

>>> to reduce it to 1/5th the amount I was on. At one point I had

>>> stopped it completely but I had to add back a small amount soon

>>> after because I started having subtle hypothyroid symptoms.

>>>> Just recently my nails are starting to grow back like normal

> which

>>> indicates to me that maybe I'm on the right track and my hair

> will

>>> eventually catch up. It's been falling out like mad and I'm

> afraid

>>> I'll go bald. Hopefully all of this loss is just my body

> readjusting

>>> after all it's been through. Wishful thinking.. but possible.

>>>> Right now I get periods of dizziness, low blood pressure and

>>> fatigue at times. It gets really bad when I endure stress...

> which

>>> makes me think I could have a little adrenal issue going on....

>>> that's why I had the tests done by the endocrinologist. And

>>> truthfully, I don't even trust the way this endo is even

>>> interpreting the tests because after all... she is an endo and if

>>> you don't fit into their guidelines... your fine. Could be the

>>> beginning stages of adrenal fatigue.

>>>> So, that's it.

>>>> Dawn

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>

>>>

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