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Thanks Kenda

I'm going to give him a call - I guess on Monday. Where do you

live? Tonight is family night, and the kids want to go to the mall -

I think I might make it as far as the massage chair at Boscovs.

Cherie

> >>

> >> Cherie,

> >>

> >> You are in a cycle of pain, disease and medications. You are

> > going to need

> >> to detox in order to clear up the diseases that are causing

pain,

> >> necessitating medications. You can start by changing to an

> > organic diet,

> >> eliminating junk and processed foods and drinking lots of pure

> > water. It

> >> seems to me that you really do need the assistance of an ND that

> > can steer

> >> you towards supplements geared toward your particular needs. I

> > know I

> >> couldn't have healed myself without the assistance of Dr.

Leu. I

> > had way

> >> too many problems to know where to start. Even now that I am

very

> > healthy,

> >> I still need his help in staying that way.

> >>

> >> I gave you Dr. Leu's contact information in a previous email.

You

> > can

> >> contact him if you desire, or take the advice of someone else

here

> > but I

> >> would do something to get on the right track. The sooner you

> > commit to a

> >> treatment plan, the sooner you will begin to feel better.

> >>

> >> Kenda

> >>

> >>> Hi - I need to find a doctor, but don't know what to do. I

> > checked

> >>> the lists through the links from Patty, I found out that ND's

> > cannot

> >>> be licensed in PA, so there really aren't any. The one woman I

> >>> found on that list actually practices in CA, but comes to PA

> > every

> >>> two months, she also charges $150 an hour, plus I would imagine

> > the

> >>> cost of any treatment or supplements. My general doc really

can't

> >>> help me, my rheumatologist definitely can't help me, the

> >>> chiropractor/kenesiologist was not helping me and was getting

> >>> extremely expensive. My pain is just so bad that I can hardly

> > think

> >>> clearly to make a decision about anything.

> >>>

> >>> I am interested in what you think about Ginger's question about

> >>> antihistamines and could they prevent healing? I also take

them

> >>> regularly for allergies. I also take them to stop the effects

of

> >>> the pain killers which I am allergic to. I think I am only

> > harming

> >>> myself. I feel like I am trapped in a cycle of pain,

allergies,

> > and

> >>> taking meds that I'm allergic to. I need to try something

soon,

> > as

> >>> I feel I am actually becoming disabled!

> >>>

> >>> Do you think I am able to ride this out trying different

> >>> supplements - or maybe stopping all allergy and pain meds? I

> > can't

> >>> think of a single doc that would understand the disease process

> >>> caused by the implants.

> >>> Cherie

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed

> >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care

> >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>

> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > mislead you.

> >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> > how to live a

> >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time

> >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>

> >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >>>

> >>>

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Kenda - that's what I'm afraid of with going off the meds. The

weird thing is that as bad as I felt - to have explant, I have never

felt this bad. I am so very thankful to all of you right now. I

never realized how toxic I must be - I did have the feeling the meds

were only a quick fix and making my problem worse.

Cherie

> >>>>

> >>>> Cherie,

> >>>>

> >>>> Kenda's ND will work with you by phone. He's not

> >>>> cheap, but from everything I hear, he's very good.

> >>>> He'll talk to you, then send you what you need to do

> >>>> tests that will help him understand what's going on

> >>>> with you.

> >>>>

> >>>> There's no getting around how expensive this crap is!

> >>>> . . .

> >>>>

> >>>> Have you tried eating raw garlic? . . Oil of Oregano?

> >>>> . . Espom salt baths? . . . fasting? . . . probiotics?

> >>>> . . . sugar free diet? . . . are you getting deep

> >>>> sleep nightly? . . .

> >>>>

> >>>> Hugs and prayers,

> >>>>

> >>>> Rogene

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed

> >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care

> >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>

> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > mislead you.

> >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> > how to live a

> >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time

> >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>

> >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >>>

> >>>

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Cherie,

I know it must be tough for you. I am planning on going on a fast

for the first time. Changing my dietary habits before I think will

help. I only drink water. I try to eat foods that are raw or

steamed, so I can get the maximum benefit from them. In that book I

was telling you about, she says that fruits and vegetable are

considered alkaline foods, which actually helping in cleansing your

blood, or ultimately your body. A fast is probably the next step

you should consider. I have had many people tell me this over the

past week. I work at a fitness center and we have a nutritionist on

staff, so if there are any questions you would like me to ask, I

can. Fasting is a great way to cleanse yourself and spend that time

in prayer. I'll let you know how it goes. I am not sure when I

will start, but probably next week. After the fast, it is

recommended to eat only raw fruits and veggies for the next few

days. I hope this helps! As far as the antihistamine, I had to

start taking mine again. I let it go for two days and start itching

so badly I took a benadryl. I did this for two nights and it made

me lethargic during the day. I have that! So, I started my

allegra, but will try to go off it before I fast. I have being

dependent on a pill!!

Ginger

> >

> > Cherie,

> >

> > You are in a cycle of pain, disease and medications. You are

> going to need

> > to detox in order to clear up the diseases that are causing pain,

> > necessitating medications. You can start by changing to an

> organic diet,

> > eliminating junk and processed foods and drinking lots of pure

> water. It

> > seems to me that you really do need the assistance of an ND that

> can steer

> > you towards supplements geared toward your particular needs. I

> know I

> > couldn't have healed myself without the assistance of Dr. Leu.

I

> had way

> > too many problems to know where to start. Even now that I am

very

> healthy,

> > I still need his help in staying that way.

> >

> > I gave you Dr. Leu's contact information in a previous email.

You

> can

> > contact him if you desire, or take the advice of someone else

here

> but I

> > would do something to get on the right track. The sooner you

> commit to a

> > treatment plan, the sooner you will begin to feel better.

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> > > Hi - I need to find a doctor, but don't know what to do. I

> checked

> > > the lists through the links from Patty, I found out that ND's

> cannot

> > > be licensed in PA, so there really aren't any. The one woman I

> > > found on that list actually practices in CA, but comes to PA

> every

> > > two months, she also charges $150 an hour, plus I would

imagine

> the

> > > cost of any treatment or supplements. My general doc really

can't

> > > help me, my rheumatologist definitely can't help me, the

> > > chiropractor/kenesiologist was not helping me and was getting

> > > extremely expensive. My pain is just so bad that I can hardly

> think

> > > clearly to make a decision about anything.

> > >

> > > I am interested in what you think about Ginger's question about

> > > antihistamines and could they prevent healing? I also take

them

> > > regularly for allergies. I also take them to stop the effects

of

> > > the pain killers which I am allergic to. I think I am only

> harming

> > > myself. I feel like I am trapped in a cycle of pain,

allergies,

> and

> > > taking meds that I'm allergic to. I need to try something

soon,

> as

> > > I feel I am actually becoming disabled!

> > >

> > > Do you think I am able to ride this out trying different

> > > supplements - or maybe stopping all allergy and pain meds? I

> can't

> > > think of a single doc that would understand the disease process

> > > caused by the implants.

> > > Cherie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> two-time

> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > >

> > >

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Ginger,

I am having a better day today, the pain is a little bit better - so

long as I don't sneeze or yawn or make any sudden movement! I am

going to call Kenda's Dr. Leu's office on Monday and see if I can

arrange a consult. I think I need the assistance of a doctor before

I go on a fast. Please let me know how you do on it. How long will

you fast? I too have been dependent on allergy meds for 25 years.

I'm on my second day now, and I'm pretty congested, but I'm okay.

Not itching too bad yet. Glad to know we're all in this together.

Cherie

> > >

> > > Cherie,

> > >

> > > You are in a cycle of pain, disease and medications. You are

> > going to need

> > > to detox in order to clear up the diseases that are causing

pain,

> > > necessitating medications. You can start by changing to an

> > organic diet,

> > > eliminating junk and processed foods and drinking lots of pure

> > water. It

> > > seems to me that you really do need the assistance of an ND

that

> > can steer

> > > you towards supplements geared toward your particular needs.

I

> > know I

> > > couldn't have healed myself without the assistance of Dr.

Leu.

> I

> > had way

> > > too many problems to know where to start. Even now that I am

> very

> > healthy,

> > > I still need his help in staying that way.

> > >

> > > I gave you Dr. Leu's contact information in a previous email.

> You

> > can

> > > contact him if you desire, or take the advice of someone else

> here

> > but I

> > > would do something to get on the right track. The sooner you

> > commit to a

> > > treatment plan, the sooner you will begin to feel better.

> > >

> > > Kenda

> > >

> > > > Hi - I need to find a doctor, but don't know what to do. I

> > checked

> > > > the lists through the links from Patty, I found out that

ND's

> > cannot

> > > > be licensed in PA, so there really aren't any. The one

woman I

> > > > found on that list actually practices in CA, but comes to PA

> > every

> > > > two months, she also charges $150 an hour, plus I would

> imagine

> > the

> > > > cost of any treatment or supplements. My general doc really

> can't

> > > > help me, my rheumatologist definitely can't help me, the

> > > > chiropractor/kenesiologist was not helping me and was getting

> > > > extremely expensive. My pain is just so bad that I can

hardly

> > think

> > > > clearly to make a decision about anything.

> > > >

> > > > I am interested in what you think about Ginger's question

about

> > > > antihistamines and could they prevent healing? I also take

> them

> > > > regularly for allergies. I also take them to stop the

effects

> of

> > > > the pain killers which I am allergic to. I think I am only

> > harming

> > > > myself. I feel like I am trapped in a cycle of pain,

> allergies,

> > and

> > > > taking meds that I'm allergic to. I need to try something

> soon,

> > as

> > > > I feel I am actually becoming disabled!

> > > >

> > > > Do you think I am able to ride this out trying different

> > > > supplements - or maybe stopping all allergy and pain meds?

I

> > can't

> > > > think of a single doc that would understand the disease

process

> > > > caused by the implants.

> > > > Cherie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed

> > > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care

> > > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you.

> > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > how to live a

> > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

> > two-time

> > > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

> link:

> > > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > > >

> > > >

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Patty

I've heard somewhere else recently of coffee enemas (maybe Dr.

Weil?). I would be interested in anything that would alleviate some

pain!

Cherie

> >

> > Hi - I need to find a doctor, but don't know what to do. I

> checked

> > the lists through the links from Patty, I found out that ND's

> cannot

> > be licensed in PA, so there really aren't any. The one woman I

> > found on that list actually practices in CA, but comes to PA

every

> > two months, she also charges $150 an hour, plus I would imagine

> the

> > cost of any treatment or supplements. My general doc really

can't

> > help me, my rheumatologist definitely can't help me, the

> > chiropractor/kenesiologist was not helping me and was getting

> > extremely expensive. My pain is just so bad that I can hardly

> think

> > clearly to make a decision about anything.

> >

> > I am interested in what you think about Ginger's question about

> > antihistamines and could they prevent healing? I also take them

> > regularly for allergies. I also take them to stop the effects

of

> > the pain killers which I am allergic to. I think I am only

> harming

> > myself. I feel like I am trapped in a cycle of pain, allergies,

> and

> > taking meds that I'm allergic to. I need to try something soon,

> as

> > I feel I am actually becoming disabled!

> >

> > Do you think I am able to ride this out trying different

> > supplements - or maybe stopping all allergy and pain meds? I

> can't

> > think of a single doc that would understand the disease process

> > caused by the implants.

> > Cherie

> >

>

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Hey Cherie,

My fingers are really sore today, not so much the joints, more like

bone pain. I've been thinking that I'd probably progress much

better if I were detoxing. At first I was hoping that eating

healthy food and drinking water would do the trick, but I think I

need a boost. Dr. Leu's going to probably think it's a coincidence

that he's got two of us calling for the same reason!!

I had a call from a hiring manager for a job I applied for a few

days ago, and he said his secretary would call back to set up an

appointment, but she never did. I was feeling pretty emotional this

morning and told my husband I feel like such a loser, I've worked my

entire life and am worried (I got downsized almost a year ago).

My sister and I went to Trader Joe's today. I bought some muffins

sweetened with fruit!! They weren't organic but at least they

weren't loaded with sugar, and weren't made with white flour. Most

of what I picked up was organic, and the other stuff at least had

ingredients I was familiar with and could pronounce!! I was

standing in line and the guy in back of me showed me this yogurt

that he bought, and he said the FDA actually pulled it for a while,

and here they allow all this other junk to poison us. I told him my

opinion of the FDA (not a good one!).

Sis

> > > >

> > > > Cherie,

> > > >

> > > > You are in a cycle of pain, disease and medications. You

are

> > > going to need

> > > > to detox in order to clear up the diseases that are causing

> pain,

> > > > necessitating medications. You can start by changing to an

> > > organic diet,

> > > > eliminating junk and processed foods and drinking lots of

pure

> > > water. It

> > > > seems to me that you really do need the assistance of an ND

> that

> > > can steer

> > > > you towards supplements geared toward your particular

needs.

> I

> > > know I

> > > > couldn't have healed myself without the assistance of Dr.

> Leu.

> > I

> > > had way

> > > > too many problems to know where to start. Even now that I

am

> > very

> > > healthy,

> > > > I still need his help in staying that way.

> > > >

> > > > I gave you Dr. Leu's contact information in a previous

email.

> > You

> > > can

> > > > contact him if you desire, or take the advice of someone

else

> > here

> > > but I

> > > > would do something to get on the right track. The sooner

you

> > > commit to a

> > > > treatment plan, the sooner you will begin to feel better.

> > > >

> > > > Kenda

> > > >

> > > > > Hi - I need to find a doctor, but don't know what to do.

I

> > > checked

> > > > > the lists through the links from Patty, I found out that

> ND's

> > > cannot

> > > > > be licensed in PA, so there really aren't any. The one

> woman I

> > > > > found on that list actually practices in CA, but comes to

PA

> > > every

> > > > > two months, she also charges $150 an hour, plus I would

> > imagine

> > > the

> > > > > cost of any treatment or supplements. My general doc

really

> > can't

> > > > > help me, my rheumatologist definitely can't help me, the

> > > > > chiropractor/kenesiologist was not helping me and was

getting

> > > > > extremely expensive. My pain is just so bad that I can

> hardly

> > > think

> > > > > clearly to make a decision about anything.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am interested in what you think about Ginger's question

> about

> > > > > antihistamines and could they prevent healing? I also

take

> > them

> > > > > regularly for allergies. I also take them to stop the

> effects

> > of

> > > > > the pain killers which I am allergic to. I think I am

only

> > > harming

> > > > > myself. I feel like I am trapped in a cycle of pain,

> > allergies,

> > > and

> > > > > taking meds that I'm allergic to. I need to try something

> > soon,

> > > as

> > > > > I feel I am actually becoming disabled!

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you think I am able to ride this out trying different

> > > > > supplements - or maybe stopping all allergy and pain

meds?

> I

> > > can't

> > > > > think of a single doc that would understand the disease

> process

> > > > > caused by the implants.

> > > > > Cherie

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

advice

> > > given by licensed

> > > > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed

> > > health care

> > > > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians

> > > mislead you.

> > > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> about

> > > how to live a

> > > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> > ing,

> > > two-time

> > > > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > >

> > > > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at

this

> > link:

> > > > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Sis

I was wondering if you were having a better day with your joints.

The sudden weather change doesn't help either I'll bet. I know what

you mean, I think I need a boost too. I'm hoping Dr. Leu can help

put us on the right track - even without seeing us in person.

I'm in a similar situation with work. I have been working for

myself for the last five years, very successfully. But in the

summer, my main client got a new machine that automatically produces

the reports, and they don't need me anymore. I felt like a real

loser. I have gotten some new work in, but it's just not at all

like it was. I worry about the bills and contributing - and just

feeling worthwhile. But you know what, I think God really knew what

he was doing for you and I, because we need time to heal without the

stress of being busy with work. You also have school, and look how

good you did on your exams! The bills have been paid - though when

I look at it on paper it doesn't make any sense! God is good.

I'm glad you liked Trader Joes. Hope you found some good stuff.

You do still have to watch for ingredients - check the meat to make

sure it says " no growth hormones or antibiotics " and that it says no

hydrogenated oils, things like that. I find now I know just what

I'm looking for each week. When I first started, it took me a long

time in there.

I'm feeling quite a bit better today - can you tell - I'm quite

windy tonight!

Cherie

> > > > >

> > > > > Cherie,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are in a cycle of pain, disease and medications. You

> are

> > > > going to need

> > > > > to detox in order to clear up the diseases that are

causing

> > pain,

> > > > > necessitating medications. You can start by changing to

an

> > > > organic diet,

> > > > > eliminating junk and processed foods and drinking lots of

> pure

> > > > water. It

> > > > > seems to me that you really do need the assistance of an

ND

> > that

> > > > can steer

> > > > > you towards supplements geared toward your particular

> needs.

> > I

> > > > know I

> > > > > couldn't have healed myself without the assistance of Dr.

> > Leu.

> > > I

> > > > had way

> > > > > too many problems to know where to start. Even now that I

> am

> > > very

> > > > healthy,

> > > > > I still need his help in staying that way.

> > > > >

> > > > > I gave you Dr. Leu's contact information in a previous

> email.

> > > You

> > > > can

> > > > > contact him if you desire, or take the advice of someone

> else

> > > here

> > > > but I

> > > > > would do something to get on the right track. The sooner

> you

> > > > commit to a

> > > > > treatment plan, the sooner you will begin to feel better.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kenda

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi - I need to find a doctor, but don't know what to

do.

> I

> > > > checked

> > > > > > the lists through the links from Patty, I found out that

> > ND's

> > > > cannot

> > > > > > be licensed in PA, so there really aren't any. The one

> > woman I

> > > > > > found on that list actually practices in CA, but comes

to

> PA

> > > > every

> > > > > > two months, she also charges $150 an hour, plus I would

> > > imagine

> > > > the

> > > > > > cost of any treatment or supplements. My general doc

> really

> > > can't

> > > > > > help me, my rheumatologist definitely can't help me, the

> > > > > > chiropractor/kenesiologist was not helping me and was

> getting

> > > > > > extremely expensive. My pain is just so bad that I can

> > hardly

> > > > think

> > > > > > clearly to make a decision about anything.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am interested in what you think about Ginger's

question

> > about

> > > > > > antihistamines and could they prevent healing? I also

> take

> > > them

> > > > > > regularly for allergies. I also take them to stop the

> > effects

> > > of

> > > > > > the pain killers which I am allergic to. I think I am

> only

> > > > harming

> > > > > > myself. I feel like I am trapped in a cycle of pain,

> > > allergies,

> > > > and

> > > > > > taking meds that I'm allergic to. I need to try

something

> > > soon,

> > > > as

> > > > > > I feel I am actually becoming disabled!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you think I am able to ride this out trying different

> > > > > > supplements - or maybe stopping all allergy and pain

> meds?

> > I

> > > > can't

> > > > > > think of a single doc that would understand the disease

> > process

> > > > > > caused by the implants.

> > > > > > Cherie

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

> advice

> > > > given by licensed

> > > > > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> > licensed

> > > > health care

> > > > > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians

> > > > mislead you.

> > > > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> > about

> > > > how to live a

> > > > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> > > ing,

> > > > two-time

> > > > > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at

> this

> > > link:

> > > > > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > > > > >

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Hi Cherie - I'm glad you're having a good day. I seem to go in an

upswing followed by a downswing, and right now I'm in a downswing.

Joints are sore, bones are sore. I think you're right about the job

thing, we get what we need, when we need it - and I probably didn't

need all that stress the past few months. I was reading labels at

Trader Joe's, but as you said I've got alot to learn, too. I picked

up some dried blueberries sweetened with fruit juice, which was nice

because all the dried fruits in the store are always sweetened with

sugar. Blueberries are supposed to be very good for you, although I

don't know if that applies to dried ones. However, they taste

good! School starts up on Wednesday, by the way, although I'll have

two days with only one class, and two days with 3 classes.

Sis

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cherie,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are in a cycle of pain, disease and medications.

You

> > are

> > > > > going to need

> > > > > > to detox in order to clear up the diseases that are

> causing

> > > pain,

> > > > > > necessitating medications. You can start by changing to

> an

> > > > > organic diet,

> > > > > > eliminating junk and processed foods and drinking lots

of

> > pure

> > > > > water. It

> > > > > > seems to me that you really do need the assistance of an

> ND

> > > that

> > > > > can steer

> > > > > > you towards supplements geared toward your particular

> > needs.

> > > I

> > > > > know I

> > > > > > couldn't have healed myself without the assistance of

Dr.

> > > Leu.

> > > > I

> > > > > had way

> > > > > > too many problems to know where to start. Even now that

I

> > am

> > > > very

> > > > > healthy,

> > > > > > I still need his help in staying that way.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I gave you Dr. Leu's contact information in a previous

> > email.

> > > > You

> > > > > can

> > > > > > contact him if you desire, or take the advice of someone

> > else

> > > > here

> > > > > but I

> > > > > > would do something to get on the right track. The

sooner

> > you

> > > > > commit to a

> > > > > > treatment plan, the sooner you will begin to feel

better.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kenda

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi - I need to find a doctor, but don't know what to

> do.

> > I

> > > > > checked

> > > > > > > the lists through the links from Patty, I found out

that

> > > ND's

> > > > > cannot

> > > > > > > be licensed in PA, so there really aren't any. The

one

> > > woman I

> > > > > > > found on that list actually practices in CA, but comes

> to

> > PA

> > > > > every

> > > > > > > two months, she also charges $150 an hour, plus I

would

> > > > imagine

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > cost of any treatment or supplements. My general doc

> > really

> > > > can't

> > > > > > > help me, my rheumatologist definitely can't help me,

the

> > > > > > > chiropractor/kenesiologist was not helping me and was

> > getting

> > > > > > > extremely expensive. My pain is just so bad that I

can

> > > hardly

> > > > > think

> > > > > > > clearly to make a decision about anything.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am interested in what you think about Ginger's

> question

> > > about

> > > > > > > antihistamines and could they prevent healing? I also

> > take

> > > > them

> > > > > > > regularly for allergies. I also take them to stop the

> > > effects

> > > > of

> > > > > > > the pain killers which I am allergic to. I think I am

> > only

> > > > > harming

> > > > > > > myself. I feel like I am trapped in a cycle of pain,

> > > > allergies,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > taking meds that I'm allergic to. I need to try

> something

> > > > soon,

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > I feel I am actually becoming disabled!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do you think I am able to ride this out trying

different

> > > > > > > supplements - or maybe stopping all allergy and pain

> > meds?

> > > I

> > > > > can't

> > > > > > > think of a single doc that would understand the

disease

> > > process

> > > > > > > caused by the implants.

> > > > > > > Cherie

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

> > advice

> > > > > given by licensed

> > > > > > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> > > licensed

> > > > > health care

> > > > > > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > > politicians

> > > > > mislead you.

> > > > > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions

> > > about

> > > > > how to live a

> > > > > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

Linus

> > > > ing,

> > > > > two-time

> > > > > > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at

> > this

> > > > link:

> > > > > > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Thanks, Kenda. Well, at the very least I can have them for a snack

and they hopefully won't do any harm. That's what I love about

summer, all the in-season fruits and veggies!

Sis

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Cherie,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> You are in a cycle of pain, disease and medications.

> > You

> >>> are

> >>>>>> going to need

> >>>>>>> to detox in order to clear up the diseases that are

> >> causing

> >>>> pain,

> >>>>>>> necessitating medications. You can start by changing to

> >> an

> >>>>>> organic diet,

> >>>>>>> eliminating junk and processed foods and drinking lots

> > of

> >>> pure

> >>>>>> water. It

> >>>>>>> seems to me that you really do need the assistance of an

> >> ND

> >>>> that

> >>>>>> can steer

> >>>>>>> you towards supplements geared toward your particular

> >>> needs.

> >>>> I

> >>>>>> know I

> >>>>>>> couldn't have healed myself without the assistance of

> > Dr.

> >>>> Leu.

> >>>>> I

> >>>>>> had way

> >>>>>>> too many problems to know where to start. Even now that

> > I

> >>> am

> >>>>> very

> >>>>>> healthy,

> >>>>>>> I still need his help in staying that way.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I gave you Dr. Leu's contact information in a previous

> >>> email.

> >>>>> You

> >>>>>> can

> >>>>>>> contact him if you desire, or take the advice of someone

> >>> else

> >>>>> here

> >>>>>> but I

> >>>>>>> would do something to get on the right track. The

> > sooner

> >>> you

> >>>>>> commit to a

> >>>>>>> treatment plan, the sooner you will begin to feel

> > better.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Kenda

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Hi - I need to find a doctor, but don't know what to

> >> do.

> >>> I

> >>>>>> checked

> >>>>>>>> the lists through the links from Patty, I found out

> > that

> >>>> ND's

> >>>>>> cannot

> >>>>>>>> be licensed in PA, so there really aren't any. The

> > one

> >>>> woman I

> >>>>>>>> found on that list actually practices in CA, but comes

> >> to

> >>> PA

> >>>>>> every

> >>>>>>>> two months, she also charges $150 an hour, plus I

> > would

> >>>>> imagine

> >>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> cost of any treatment or supplements. My general doc

> >>> really

> >>>>> can't

> >>>>>>>> help me, my rheumatologist definitely can't help me,

> > the

> >>>>>>>> chiropractor/kenesiologist was not helping me and was

> >>> getting

> >>>>>>>> extremely expensive. My pain is just so bad that I

> > can

> >>>> hardly

> >>>>>> think

> >>>>>>>> clearly to make a decision about anything.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I am interested in what you think about Ginger's

> >> question

> >>>> about

> >>>>>>>> antihistamines and could they prevent healing? I also

> >>> take

> >>>>> them

> >>>>>>>> regularly for allergies. I also take them to stop the

> >>>> effects

> >>>>> of

> >>>>>>>> the pain killers which I am allergic to. I think I am

> >>> only

> >>>>>> harming

> >>>>>>>> myself. I feel like I am trapped in a cycle of pain,

> >>>>> allergies,

> >>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>> taking meds that I'm allergic to. I need to try

> >> something

> >>>>> soon,

> >>>>>> as

> >>>>>>>> I feel I am actually becoming disabled!

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Do you think I am able to ride this out trying

> > different

> >>>>>>>> supplements - or maybe stopping all allergy and pain

> >>> meds?

> >>>> I

> >>>>>> can't

> >>>>>>>> think of a single doc that would understand the

> > disease

> >>>> process

> >>>>>>>> caused by the implants.

> >>>>>>>> Cherie

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

> >>> advice

> >>>>>> given by licensed

> >>>>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> >>>> licensed

> >>>>>> health care

> >>>>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> >>>> politicians

> >>>>>> mislead you.

> >>>>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > decisions

> >>>> about

> >>>>>> how to live a

> >>>>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > Linus

> >>>>> ing,

> >>>>>> two-time

> >>>>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at

> >>> this

> >>>>> link:

> >>>>>>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

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