Re: question about weight gain with implants

[Guest guest]

Hi Ginger!

Most definitely, I think you get a resounding YES on this one from

most of the women here! Weight has certainly become an issue for

alot of us. Sometimes it is possibly related to thyroid issues,

sometimes hormonal, or who knows? Maybe also just the loss of

energy as we get fatigued and unable to function. A few women have

gone the opposite direction and lost weight through their illness,

but the majority have experienced some form of weight gain with

their illness instead. AND many have found that no matter how hard

they work out, that weight does not come off.

Weight gain certainly can be from aging, but I think that happens

more in your 40's than in your 30's! I am sure everyone is

different, but it sounds like you've been working hard to take care

of yourself. I know that when I was in my 30's, even after having 4

kids, I could eat ice cream every single night and not gain a

pound. It was that way all the way up until I got my implants and

got sick. Now that I am post-explant and diagnosed with Hashimoto's

autoimmune thyroid disease thanks to my implants, weight has most

definitely become an issue for me.

It is so sad to hear of the woman getting implants after going

through a double mastectomy. Cancer is hard enough, but I hope she

takes the time to really read through all of the dangers, risks, and

warnings from implants. She'd be much better off without them.

Thanks for sharing with her what you know to be true. She will

definitely have to work at her health.

Hugs,

Patty

--- In , " gingeyo72 " <thedford@c...>

wrote:

>

> Hello to everyone,

> I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking fuller

> each day!

> I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular

eat

> foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my

> explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family

and

> I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because I

> didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all

the

> time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after my

> implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds.

Many

> of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties and

> was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but

> could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many people

> at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have

> gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount. I

> was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

implants?

> I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a double

> masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if she

> was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy through

> diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> Thanks!

> Ginger

>

[Guest guest]

Ginger,

One thing I noticed when I was posting alot of questions on the pro-

implant sites (before I found this one and got the help I needed)

was that a common theme among implanted women seemed to be weight

gain. I've heard it said that implants effect our thyroids, even if

the tests show up as " normal " , it still may have changed from what

our own " normal " was. I personally lost weight, because they made

me sick right away, and my reaction to being sick is to lose

weight. Now that they're out I've gained the 10 lbs back that I

lost and I'm at my normal weight again.

Sis

--- In , " gingeyo72 " <thedford@c...>

wrote:

>

> Hello to everyone,

> I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking fuller

> each day!

> I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular

eat

> foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my

> explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family

and

> I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because I

> didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all

the

> time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after my

> implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds.

Many

> of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties and

> was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but

> could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many people

> at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have

> gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount. I

> was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

implants?

> I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a double

> masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if she

> was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy through

> diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> Thanks!

> Ginger

>

[Guest guest]

Ginger, No, I didnt gain weight right after my implants. In fact, I lost. I gained a new love for my body after them put in. I exercised and dieted alot. It in fact almost became an obsession for me. I was at my lowest weight ever with my implants in. I loved it, I was 5' 7 and in a size 4. I did start to gain weight slowly after a severe throat infection four years ago. It put me into a comatose state for two days. This is when my symptoms started. I just didn't know it yet. I started getting weird infections every six months that would put me into the hospital for a couple of days. Then about a year and a half ago I started gaining weight and couldn't take it back off. And now I can't even exercise at all due to severe muscle weakness. I am about 30 pounds over my ideal now. My implants will be exterminated right before their sixth birthday and all this will

end (hopefully). My husband sayes he is looking forward to him seeing my little waist again. I was mourning my cleavage last night, and he said he wont miss those bags of poison. He used to love my boobs, now he hates what they have done to me. I am nervous because we have only been married for 2 years this February, he has never seen me flat. We love to SCUBA dive, and we can't because my illnesses. He wants to get me back in the water. Boy, did I get off track on that one, sorry. gingeyo72 <thedford@...> wrote: Hello to everyone,I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking fuller each day! I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular eat foods daily that have little or no nutritional

value. Since my explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family and I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because I didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all the time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after my implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds. Many of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties and was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many people at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount. I was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the implants? I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a double

masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if she was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy through diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life. Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!Thanks!Ginger

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[Guest guest]

I just wanted to comment that although i was not overweight after

implants I did get very bloated and while I had implants I looked

like I had a beer gut. (you have to understand I am tiny, never

weigh over 110 so having a big tummy made me look pregnant!) I

honeslty think my digestive system was off track or something

because after I got my implants out my tummy thinned out and looks

more porportioned with the rest of my body. I find it strange but

Dr. Kolb said that it is quite normal. I know this may sound gross

but I was ALWAYS constipated as well! Ugh it was horrible. Now

things are flowing wonderfully! And you are right, I used to eat

crap all the time. I loved Mcdonalds! now after surgery I feel

different. it is like i have a second chance now to feel healthy and

be me again. My cravings for junk food has gone out the door. Very

amazing.

> >

> > Hello to everyone,

> > I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking

fuller

> > each day!

> > I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular

> eat

> > foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my

> > explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family

> and

> > I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> > efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because

I

> > didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all

> the

> > time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after

my

> > implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds.

> Many

> > of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties

and

> > was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but

> > could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many

people

> > at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have

> > gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount.

I

> > was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

> implants?

> > I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a

double

> > masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if

she

> > was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy

through

> > diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> > Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> > Thanks!

> > Ginger

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ginger - your post sounds like me. I too have gained 20 pounds that

will not come off, despite daily running and exercising. I don't

know if it was from the implants or some other reason, as I am 45,

and it may be hormonal - and I still have more to learn about eating

right - mainly totally getting off sweets.

Cherie

--- In , " gingeyo72 " <thedford@c...>

wrote:

>

> Hello to everyone,

> I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking fuller

> each day!

> I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular

eat

> foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my

> explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family

and

> I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because I

> didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all

the

> time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after my

> implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds.

Many

> of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties and

> was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but

> could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many people

> at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have

> gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount. I

> was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

implants?

> I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a double

> masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if she

> was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy through

> diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> Thanks!

> Ginger

>

[Guest guest]

I was very constipated, too, to the point of taking metamucel. I am

not at ALL anymore!!!

> > >

> > > Hello to everyone,

> > > I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking

> fuller

> > > each day!

> > > I have been reading about diet and how Americans in

particular

> > eat

> > > foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since

my

> > > explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my

family

> > and

> > > I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> > > efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy

because

> I

> > > didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised

all

> > the

> > > time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but

after

> my

> > > implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9

pounds.

> > Many

> > > of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties

> and

> > > was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could

but

> > > could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many

> people

> > > at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many

have

> > > gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle

amount.

> I

> > > was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

> > implants?

> > > I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a

> double

> > > masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if

> she

> > > was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy

> through

> > > diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> > > Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> > > Thanks!

> > > Ginger

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

I have mourned my cleavage, too, but I am slowly getting to the

point of acceptance and liking my new figure. I have self esteem

issues since puberty and this whole process has taught me so much.

We are beautiful the way God made us, whether society says

differently. It is important to be healthy, the way our bodies were

intented to be fed, exercised and used. I will pray for you and I

know it is a long road to recovery, but you will get better! I have

lost a lot of my bloat already and feel a difference in my pants!

Take care!

Ginger

> Hello to everyone,

> I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking fuller

> each day!

> I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular

eat

> foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my

> explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family

and

> I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because I

> didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all

the

> time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after my

> implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds.

Many

> of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties and

> was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but

> could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many people

> at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have

> gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount. I

> was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

implants?

> I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a double

> masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if she

> was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy through

> diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> Thanks!

> Ginger

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, sis.

What web sites were those? It would be interesting to read what

these women have to say. All of my friends with implants blame

their medical problems on something else. I just want to say to

them, why now? After you were healthy after so many years!!!!

Take care,

Ginger

> >

> > Hello to everyone,

> > I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking

fuller

> > each day!

> > I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular

> eat

> > foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my

> > explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family

> and

> > I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> > efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because

I

> > didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all

> the

> > time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after

my

> > implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds.

> Many

> > of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties

and

> > was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but

> > could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many

people

> > at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have

> > gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount.

I

> > was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

> implants?

> > I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a

double

> > masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if

she

> > was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy

through

> > diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> > Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> > Thanks!

> > Ginger

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ginger! . . .

How are YOU doing? . . . Is your energy coming back?

Pain going away since explant?

I suspect most women blame their health problems on

everything else because they're letting their doctors

do their thinking for them . . . And most doctors will

not blame breast implants. . . Call it brainwashing or

stupidity . . . Results are the same!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Ginger,

It's wonderful to hear you are doing so good!

Is there anyway you can interest your friend in doing

the research on breast implants after cancer? . .

Cancer patients are the WORST candidates for breast

implants, in part because their body's immune system

has been under attack by the cancer, the surgery and

radiation/chemo . . . Their rates of complications are

much higher than those of augmentation women!

My daughter's college roommate had scheduled implant

surgery after cancer. . . I started sending her

information. At first she was highly resistant . . .

But, after she studied more and more, she decided

against implants in favor of a tram flap (an awful

surgery). She's told me again and again how thankful

she is that I wouldn't leave her alone. That she

believes I saved her life! She already had a number of

autoimmune problems.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

Great to hear from you, too! You are such a wealth of information.

I have learned so much about my body the past few weeks. It is

amazing how we treat our bodies so poorly without even realizing it!

The lady I told you about in unfortunately is just an aquaitance.

My parents know her better than me. I couldn't tell how she was

taking the shock of the cancer, so I didn't want to put too much

information too soon. I did tell her what they did to me and told

her to be very careful with eating and proper exercise. Perhaps I

can pass some information along to her through my parents? Are

there any resources that you know of the would be good to pass on?

I know how hard it was for me, so what she is going through is so

much worse. I would just hate for her to get sick again.

Typically, how long does it take for recovery of these autoimmune

diseases? I am asking for myself. I seem to ache still at the end

of the day, especially when I don't get a lot of sleep. My diet is

helping, but I am definetely not make to pre-implant self. I know

it takes time, but many people think it is just an overnight

transformation after surgery. I try to explain to them that it will

take time, but how long I am not sure.

Have a great weekend!

Ginger

>

> Ginger,

>

> It's wonderful to hear you are doing so good!

>

> Is there anyway you can interest your friend in doing

> the research on breast implants after cancer? . .

>

> Cancer patients are the WORST candidates for breast

> implants, in part because their body's immune system

> has been under attack by the cancer, the surgery and

> radiation/chemo . . . Their rates of complications are

> much higher than those of augmentation women!

>

> My daughter's college roommate had scheduled implant

> surgery after cancer. . . I started sending her

> information. At first she was highly resistant . . .

> But, after she studied more and more, she decided

> against implants in favor of a tram flap (an awful

> surgery). She's told me again and again how thankful

> she is that I wouldn't leave her alone. That she

> believes I saved her life! She already had a number of

> autoimmune problems.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Cherie,

Yes, sweets are no good! I have been reading a book that really

pushes eating foods in their natural state, or close to it and to

lay off the red meat-maybe once a week. It has been very helpful

and educational. I now read the labels on everything and try to

avoid additives and perservatives. I have noticed a difference and

on Monday am going to start weighing myself. I am not telling

myself I am on a diet, but a lifestyle change!!! I am shooting for

50% of my meal to be greens, 25% whole grain or vegetable starch

like potato, corn, etc and 25% protein. Some nights I don't do the

meat and double up on veggies. Yes, I have been hungry, but when I

feel the hunger pains I drink water-like a fast. The book is

called " Greater Health God's Way. " I don't know if you are

religious or not, but it has helped me tremendously. I am sorry you

have struggled, too. I am sure you still look great!

Ginger

> >

> > Hello to everyone,

> > I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking

fuller

> > each day!

> > I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular

> eat

> > foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my

> > explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family

> and

> > I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> > efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because

I

> > didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all

> the

> > time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after

my

> > implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds.

> Many

> > of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties

and

> > was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but

> > could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many

people

> > at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have

> > gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount.

I

> > was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

> implants?

> > I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a

double

> > masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if

she

> > was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy

through

> > diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> > Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> > Thanks!

> > Ginger

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ginger,

For most women, it does seem to take a while . . .

IMHO, one factor is why the got sick. Were they

allergic to the materials? Was there some bacteria

growing in their implants? Were toxins leaching out of

the implants and being distributed throughout their

body? If so, what are they? and where are they?

Until somebody has the answers, we really don't know

what's going on. What we do know is that, given a

chance, i.e. eating a very healthy diet, getting a

moderate amount of exercise, drinking plenty of pure

water, getting sufficient sleep (we're up late

tonight, aren't we?), and managing stress and anger,

our body has amazing healing abilities.

There are a number of detox methods that women find

acceptable to varying degrees . . . fasts, flushes,

sweating, baths, massage, yoga, supplements, etc. . .

All we can do is to share what we've learned and hope

that women can use that as a starting point. How

quickly they get better is going to depend on what

caused them to get sick, how sick they are, AND how

dedicated they are to following a healthy program. It

takes time to figure it out!

The great news is that explanted women ARE getting

better on a regular basis. Usually not as fast as they

would like - but well enough to look back as see how

far they've come. Nobody claims it's easy! However,

considering the alternative, we have everything to

gain and that makes it worth while!

As for your parents friend . . . If she's online,

there are sooooo many resources! I would refer her to

our archives! . . . There are some good books -

" Informed Consent " doesn't really address cancer, but

it's a good expose of the implant debacle.

I'm hoping that, with the current political situation

changing so dramatically recently, that the FDA will

come clean with what implants are doing to women (an

their unborn children) . . . and take them off the

market until they truly have a safe device! Right now,

it appears we have the best FDA money can buy!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

This sounds very much the same as the GI diet.I have just started it and also thinking of it as a lifestyle change not a diet.I am eating as much as I want but folllowing the same principles my plate is divided 25% protien, 25% carbs and 50% veggies.I feel better eating this way.Also my sister has been doing this diet and her and her husband have lost 15lbs...her....25...him!gingeyo72 <thedford@...> wrote: Cherie,Yes, sweets are no good! I have been reading a book that really pushes eating foods in their natural state, or close to it and to lay off the red meat-maybe once a week. It has been very helpful and educational. I now read the labels on everything and try to avoid additives and perservatives. I have noticed a difference and on Monday am going to start weighing myself.

I am not telling myself I am on a diet, but a lifestyle change!!! I am shooting for 50% of my meal to be greens, 25% whole grain or vegetable starch like potato, corn, etc and 25% protein. Some nights I don't do the meat and double up on veggies. Yes, I have been hungry, but when I feel the hunger pains I drink water-like a fast. The book is called "Greater Health God's Way." I don't know if you are religious or not, but it has helped me tremendously. I am sorry you have struggled, too. I am sure you still look great!Ginger> >> > Hello to everyone,> > I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking fuller > > each day!> > I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular > eat > > foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my > > explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family > and > > I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more > > efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because I > > didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all > the > > time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after my > >

implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds. > Many > > of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties and > > was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but > > could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many people > > at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have > > gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount. I > > was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the > implants? > > I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a double > > masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if she > > was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy through > > diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life. > > Sorry this is long long, but I would love

feedback!> > Thanks!> > Ginger> >>

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[Guest guest]

Rogene,

Yes, I was up late last night. Sometimes that is the hardest thing-

I have 3 small children and sometimes it is the only time I can just

sit and veg.......I am working on getting more sleep.

I am praying about doing a fast. I have never done one. I'm told

it is not as bad as you would think. I'll keep you posted.

I'll send this link to my parents friends. I wish there were more

alternatives, especially for women with breast cancer. As far as

for me, I never want anything foreign in me again!!!

Take care,

Ginger

>

> Ginger,

>

> For most women, it does seem to take a while . . .

> IMHO, one factor is why the got sick. Were they

> allergic to the materials? Was there some bacteria

> growing in their implants? Were toxins leaching out of

> the implants and being distributed throughout their

> body? If so, what are they? and where are they?

>

> Until somebody has the answers, we really don't know

> what's going on. What we do know is that, given a

> chance, i.e. eating a very healthy diet, getting a

> moderate amount of exercise, drinking plenty of pure

> water, getting sufficient sleep (we're up late

> tonight, aren't we?), and managing stress and anger,

> our body has amazing healing abilities.

>

> There are a number of detox methods that women find

> acceptable to varying degrees . . . fasts, flushes,

> sweating, baths, massage, yoga, supplements, etc. . .

> All we can do is to share what we've learned and hope

> that women can use that as a starting point. How

> quickly they get better is going to depend on what

> caused them to get sick, how sick they are, AND how

> dedicated they are to following a healthy program. It

> takes time to figure it out!

>

> The great news is that explanted women ARE getting

> better on a regular basis. Usually not as fast as they

> would like - but well enough to look back as see how

> far they've come. Nobody claims it's easy! However,

> considering the alternative, we have everything to

> gain and that makes it worth while!

>

> As for your parents friend . . . If she's online,

> there are sooooo many resources! I would refer her to

> our archives! . . . There are some good books -

> " Informed Consent " doesn't really address cancer, but

> it's a good expose of the implant debacle.

>

> I'm hoping that, with the current political situation

> changing so dramatically recently, that the FDA will

> come clean with what implants are doing to women (an

> their unborn children) . . . and take them off the

> market until they truly have a safe device! Right now,

> it appears we have the best FDA money can buy!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Ginger - Sounds like you are doing good with your dietary changes -

I am doing about the same, though I struggle with getting enough

protein, and I think that potatoes and white pasta are high on the

glycemic index. I am trying very hard to switch to whole grains

rather than processed pasta and other breads. I haven't heard of

Greater Health God's Way. I do trust God and have faith in Christ.

I have checked into the Maker's Diet, but found some of the things

very unrealistic as far as ingredients for the recipes go. I'll

have to look into the Greater Health God's Way on the internet. The

following is meant only for ears that want to hear, and not to

offend anyone, okay? I love you all, despite our differences in our

beliefs. But we sang this in church today and it made me cry:

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!

Wounded and weary, help me, I pray!

Power, all power, surely is Thine!

Touch me and heal me, Savior divine.

Thanks for sharing Ginger, and I hope that the changes in your diet

bring you health (and weight loss as a bonus!).

Cherie

> > >

> > > Hello to everyone,

> > > I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking

> fuller

> > > each day!

> > > I have been reading about diet and how Americans in

particular

> > eat

> > > foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since

my

> > > explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my

family

> > and

> > > I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> > > efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy

because

> I

> > > didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised

all

> > the

> > > time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but

after

> my

> > > implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9

pounds.

> > Many

> > > of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties

> and

> > > was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could

but

> > > could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many

> people

> > > at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many

have

> > > gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle

amount.

> I

> > > was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

> > implants?

> > > I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a

> double

> > > masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if

> she

> > > was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy

> through

> > > diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> > > Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> > > Thanks!

> > > Ginger

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

or the worst money can buy... which seems to be true of most of politics right

now. WIth the

recent scandals, hopefully that will change. We can only hope, and vote, for

people who will

put the public welfare ahead of money and cronyism.

Right now, it appears we have the best FDA money can buy!

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can I ever relate to saying up late for the same reasons!LOL...I also have 3 small kids and feel like late nights are often the only me time I get.Good luck with your fast.gingeyo72 <thedford@...> wrote: Rogene,Yes, I was up late last night. Sometimes that is the hardest thing-I have 3 small children and sometimes it is the only time I can just sit and veg.......I am working on getting more sleep.I am praying about doing a fast. I have never done one. I'm told it is not as bad as you would think. I'll keep you posted.I'll send this link to my parents friends. I wish there were more alternatives, especially for women with breast cancer. As far as for me, I never want anything foreign in me again!!!Take care,Ginger>> Ginger,> > For most women, it does seem to take a while . . .> IMHO, one factor is why the got sick. Were they> allergic to the materials? Was there some bacteria> growing in their implants? Were toxins leaching out of> the implants and being distributed throughout their> body? If so, what are they? and where are they? > > Until somebody has the answers, we really don't know> what's going on. What we do know is that, given a> chance, i.e. eating a very healthy diet, getting a> moderate amount of exercise, drinking plenty of pure> water, getting sufficient sleep (we're up late> tonight, aren't we?), and managing stress and anger,> our body has amazing healing abilities. > > There are a number of detox methods that women find> acceptable to varying degrees . . . fasts,

flushes,> sweating, baths, massage, yoga, supplements, etc. . .> All we can do is to share what we've learned and hope> that women can use that as a starting point. How> quickly they get better is going to depend on what> caused them to get sick, how sick they are, AND how> dedicated they are to following a healthy program. It> takes time to figure it out!> > The great news is that explanted women ARE getting> better on a regular basis. Usually not as fast as they> would like - but well enough to look back as see how> far they've come. Nobody claims it's easy! However,> considering the alternative, we have everything to> gain and that makes it worth while!> > As for your parents friend . . . If she's online,> there are sooooo many resources! I would refer her to> our archives! . . . There are some good books -> "Informed Consent" doesn't really address

cancer, but> it's a good expose of the implant debacle. > > I'm hoping that, with the current political situation> changing so dramatically recently, that the FDA will> come clean with what implants are doing to women (an> their unborn children) . . . and take them off the> market until they truly have a safe device! Right now,> it appears we have the best FDA money can buy!> > Hugs,> > Rogene>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing your song Cherie, it brought tears to my eyes. I remember that one from my childhood sitting in church with my family. Cherie <cheriesut@...> wrote: Ginger - Sounds like you are doing good with your dietary changes - I am doing about the same, though I struggle with getting enough protein, and I think that potatoes and white pasta are high on the glycemic index. I am trying very hard to switch to whole grains rather than processed pasta and other breads. I haven't heard of Greater Health God's Way. I do trust God and have faith in Christ. I have checked into the Maker's Diet, but found some of the things very unrealistic as far as ingredients for the recipes go. I'll have to look into the Greater Health God's

Way on the internet. The following is meant only for ears that want to hear, and not to offend anyone, okay? I love you all, despite our differences in our beliefs. But we sang this in church today and it made me cry:Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!Wounded and weary, help me, I pray!Power, all power, surely is Thine!Touch me and heal me, Savior divine.Thanks for sharing Ginger, and I hope that the changes in your diet bring you health (and weight loss as a bonus!).Cherie> > >> > > Hello to everyone,> > > I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking > fuller > > > each day!> > > I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular > > eat > > > foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my > > > explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family > > and > > > I

eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more > > > efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because > I > > > didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all > > the > > > time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after > my > > > implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds. > > Many > > > of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties > and > > > was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but > > > could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many > people > > > at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have > > > gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount. > I > > > was

wondering if any of you gained weight also after the > > implants? > > > I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a > double > > > masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if > she > > > was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy > through > > > diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life. > > > Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!> > > Thanks!> > > Ginger> > >> >>

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[Guest guest]

LOL . . . some things never change. . . How well I

remember staying up late to watch late night talk

shows - just to hear some adult conversation and have

some time to myself!

As much as I love my kids, those were some of the

toughest years!

I can't imagine raising kids these days with all the

scary stuff out there to protect them from!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Cherie,

I love that hymn! It is amazing how this whole implant process will

bring you to your knees. The good thing about all of this is that I

realized that I needed to make dietary changed in my family's life

as well. My kids are not liking it, but they will be the better for

it. God has showed me it is my responsiblity until they're grown

for their health and wellness.

The book is by Stormie tian. I ordered a copy for a friends on

and Noble.com. I am sure Amazon has it as well.

I struggle with caffeine and starches. I know now that caffeine

especially feeds the mouth ulcers and rashes. That has helped me

kick the habit 6 days and counting. My headaches were horrible last

week, but they are getting better daily. Hang in there. I am right

there with you! It is not easy, but I think we will all be better

off in the long run!

Take care,

Ginger

> > > >

> > > > Hello to everyone,

> > > > I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking

> > fuller

> > > > each day!

> > > > I have been reading about diet and how Americans in

> particular

> > > eat

> > > > foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since

> my

> > > > explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my

> family

> > > and

> > > > I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much

more

> > > > efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy

> because

> > I

> > > > didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised

> all

> > > the

> > > > time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but

> after

> > my

> > > > implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9

> pounds.

> > > Many

> > > > of my friends told me it was because I had entered my

thirties

> > and

> > > > was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could

> but

> > > > could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many

> > people

> > > > at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many

> have

> > > > gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle

> amount.

> > I

> > > > was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

> > > implants?

> > > > I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a

> > double

> > > > masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that

if

> > she

> > > > was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy

> > through

> > > > diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> > > > Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> > > > Thanks!

> > > > Ginger

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Your husband sounds like he loves you very much. He sounds very

understanding. I was mourning my cleavage, too, at first, and my

husband reminded me of how pitiful I had become because of my

health. He said it was awful what they were doing to me. Your

husband sounds like a good guy. Try not to worry. I am sure you

are beautiful the way you are-flat or not. Plus, he is going to

love you even more, when you are healthy and energetic, like you

once were.

Ginger

> Hello to everyone,

> I am slowly getting back to normal. My breasts are looking fuller

> each day!

> I have been reading about diet and how Americans in particular

eat

> foods daily that have little or no nutritional value. Since my

> explants 3 weeks ago, I have radically changed the way my family

and

> I eat. Before I got my implants in 2002 my body was much more

> efficient in processing the junk (I thought was healthy because I

> didn't know how to read labels!) I was eating. I exercised all

the

> time( teaching aerobics, weight lifting and running), but after my

> implants I went up a size in clothes and gained 8 to 9 pounds.

Many

> of my friends told me it was because I had entered my thirties and

> was just aging. I continued to work out as hard as I could but

> could not shed that extra weight I had gained. I know many people

> at the gym who have had implants and have noticed that many have

> gained weight, too. Not a whole lot, but just a subtle amount. I

> was wondering if any of you gained weight also after the

implants?

> I know of one woman who is getting implants after having a double

> masectomy. I don't know her well, but I did warn her that if she

> was going to go that route, that she must be very healthy through

> diet, exercise and rest in the rest of her life.

> Sorry this is long long, but I would love feedback!

> Thanks!

> Ginger

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ginger,

If you asked a doctor how long it takes to recover from autoimmune

disease, you will be told that you will never recover: autoimmune

diseases are considered incurable.

However, those are the traditional doctors who haven't learned to

think outside the box! While autoimmune diseases are considered

incurable, that is not to say that we cant' do our darndest to get

them to go into remission, and if we are lucky, into complete

remission!

That is where alternative medicine comes in, and learning how to

detox and take care of ourselves. If we do it right, and remain

hopeful of the best outcome, we can live a completely normal life

again. I've done it and so have so many, many other women.

We've even seen blood work return to normal! We have had group

members who had high ANA titres (which are often associated with

lupus) go down and return to normal, elevated rheumatoid factors

return to within normal ranges, and antibodies to the thyroid go

way, way down! So there is reason to have lots of hope!

Faith, love and encouragement all play very important roles in

getting those autoimmune diseases to go into remission. Cutting out

stress and " toxic people " is a must for healing. Learning to live a

life of joy and contentment does so much for the health of the soul!

So, in answer to your question about how long it takes to recover

from autoimmune diseases, it can take anywhere from a few months to

a few years. There are so many variables. But, that is the beauty

of it....there is so much that we can do to help ourselves! And it

seems to hold true that those that do take responsibility for their

health see the greatest improvements.

Wishing you the very best!

Patty

--- In , " gingeyo72 " <thedford@c...>

wrote:

>

> Rogene,

> Great to hear from you, too! You are such a wealth of

information.

> I have learned so much about my body the past few weeks. It is

> amazing how we treat our bodies so poorly without even realizing

it!

>

> The lady I told you about in unfortunately is just an aquaitance.

> My parents know her better than me. I couldn't tell how she was

> taking the shock of the cancer, so I didn't want to put too much

> information too soon. I did tell her what they did to me and told

> her to be very careful with eating and proper exercise. Perhaps I

> can pass some information along to her through my parents? Are

> there any resources that you know of the would be good to pass

on?

> I know how hard it was for me, so what she is going through is so

> much worse. I would just hate for her to get sick again.

>

> Typically, how long does it take for recovery of these autoimmune

> diseases? I am asking for myself. I seem to ache still at the

end

> of the day, especially when I don't get a lot of sleep. My diet

is

> helping, but I am definetely not make to pre-implant self. I know

> it takes time, but many people think it is just an overnight

> transformation after surgery. I try to explain to them that it

will

> take time, but how long I am not sure.

>

> Have a great weekend!

> Ginger

[Guest guest]

Ginger,

Great job! YOu sound like you know what you are doing! That is the

secret to successful dieting....to think of it as a lifestyle change

and not a restriction of foods or of feeling deprived. I love the

name of the book!

Patty

--- In , " gingeyo72 " <thedford@c...>

wrote:

>

> Cherie,

> Yes, sweets are no good! I have been reading a book that really

> pushes eating foods in their natural state, or close to it and to

> lay off the red meat-maybe once a week. It has been very helpful

> and educational. I now read the labels on everything and try to

> avoid additives and perservatives. I have noticed a difference

and

> on Monday am going to start weighing myself. I am not telling

> myself I am on a diet, but a lifestyle change!!! I am shooting for

> 50% of my meal to be greens, 25% whole grain or vegetable starch

> like potato, corn, etc and 25% protein. Some nights I don't do

the

> meat and double up on veggies. Yes, I have been hungry, but when

I

> feel the hunger pains I drink water-like a fast. The book is

> called " Greater Health God's Way. " I don't know if you are

> religious or not, but it has helped me tremendously. I am sorry

you

> have struggled, too. I am sure you still look great!

> Ginger

[Guest guest]

Amen, Cherie!

--- In , " Cherie " <cheriesut@y...>

wrote:

>

> Ginger - Sounds like you are doing good with your dietary changes -

> I am doing about the same, though I struggle with getting enough

> protein, and I think that potatoes and white pasta are high on the

> glycemic index. I am trying very hard to switch to whole grains

> rather than processed pasta and other breads. I haven't heard of

> Greater Health God's Way. I do trust God and have faith in

Christ.

> I have checked into the Maker's Diet, but found some of the things

> very unrealistic as far as ingredients for the recipes go. I'll

> have to look into the Greater Health God's Way on the internet.

The

> following is meant only for ears that want to hear, and not to

> offend anyone, okay? I love you all, despite our differences in

our

> beliefs. But we sang this in church today and it made me cry:

>

> Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!

> Wounded and weary, help me, I pray!

> Power, all power, surely is Thine!

> Touch me and heal me, Savior divine.

>

> Thanks for sharing Ginger, and I hope that the changes in your

diet

> bring you health (and weight loss as a bonus!).

> Cherie