Re: Help!! I'm new!!

[Guest guest]

Hi MK,

Welcome to ! . . . You've found the place

to find information! . . . IMHO, you can cancel all

your doctors appointments, except the one with your

plastic surgeon (and that's a maybe). Your description

of your problems is way too familiar. Being given a

host of diagnoses can cause you to become uninsurable

in the future. If you need immediate care, by all

means see your doctor. But, going from doctor to

doctor is fruitless. Either we don't test positive for

what's really going on, or they don't test us for it!

Going from doctor and collecting diagnoses, and maybe

a bunch of medications (that have their own problems)

isn't going to mean much until you get your implants

PROPERLY removed and you do some detoxing.

We have tons of information in the archives. Look

under Files and Links. . . Then there are the messages

from women like you who have gotten much better after

explant.

Right now the critical thing is that your doctor will

remove your implants properly. That means " en bloc " .

.. . MOST PS's DON'T THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. En bloc

means removing the capsule with the implant still

inside to prevent spilling any of a host of bad

organisms into your chest cavity. A good doctor will

also use drains to prevent fluid accumulation in your

body. It takes more time and skill on the part of the

doctor. If a doctor tells you it's not necessary, or

that you will be deformed, consider that a testimony

to that doctors skill and move on! We have a list of

recommended doctors. Hopefully one is near you if you

need to find another doctor.

In the meantime, we may be able to help you reduce

your pain until you get your implants out. There are a

number of natural products that are excellent . . .

some are even very cheap! . . .

Here's a brief list . . . We can fill you in on them a

little at a time:

eat fresh, raw, crushed, garlic - as many as 12 cloves

a day (start with one though)

Take a combination of Calcium (two parts) to one part

Magnesium. Do a websearch for " Magnesium Research

Laboratory " for details. This computer isn't doing

searches right, or I'd find the address for you. Dr.

Mannsman will fill you in on what kind of

Calcium/Magnesium to get and how much to take.

Soak in a hot bath of Espom Salts . . . Yesterday

someone recommended rubbing down with a lemon cut in

half after bathing to open the pores. Skin is a major

detox organ. Sweating is the means.

Take probiotics . . . I recommend Garden of Life

Fungal Defense (one bottle) followed by Primal Defense

indefinitely. Best prices can be had at

www.appleadayandbeyond.com. If you will phone, email,

or fax your order you will get an additional discount.

Eat healthy . . . NO sugar, no refined grains (whole

grains OK), no junk food, no processed food. . . i.e.

make it yourself from healthy ingredients. Eat raw

foods and lightly steamed foods if possible. Organic

if possible.

Drink plenty of pure water (non-chlorinated). 1/2

ounce per pound of body weight is recommended - more

if you are sweating heavily.

Get plenty of deep sleep (neat trick with three small

kids! Your body repairs itself in deep sleep. If

you're not sleeping deeply, you are going to hurt.

Fibromyalgia goes hand in hand with a sleep disorder.

Find a way to manage stress and anger. . . Both are

like acid in ones body. It will eat you alive! There

are a lot of techinques to choose from - imaging, deep

breathing, mental gymnastics, etc.

Get a moderate amount of exercise - even if you hurt.

With FM, the less active you are, the more you hurt.

As far as the surgery goes, it's much easier than

implant surgery. Pain is minimal, recovery is pretty

quick.

You may find that, as you start to detox, your

symptoms will temporarily increase. That's to be

expected. As you learn to differentiate a Herx from

real illness, you will come to appreciate the fact

that a Herx is evidence that you needed to do that! .

.. . When it's over you'll feel better than you did

before.

Fasting . . . Patty is the fast expert . . . Let her

fill you in on the how's and why's of fasting.

Coffee enemas . . . Patty can fill you in on that too!

.. . . They can relieve pain quickly.

I'm sure the ladies here will have much more

information. We want to help women get over their

implant experience! We know you can, because we've

seen so many women who have.

That's the good news. . . The bad news is that, while

you can feel better, you'll be treading water until

you have your implants removed. Don't think that,

because you feel better, you're in control . . .

Things can get worse! I have a feeling you're not

going to wait very long to get your implants out

though!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi

We are so glad that you were able to find our site. Yes, your

symptoms sound so very typical of women sick from implants. These

symptoms are exceedingly common and you are smart to want to get

them out. We have a list of doctors here that we can recommend that

believe that implants make women sick and can do a good job for

you. The majority of women who get explanted are able to regain

health. Many women find that they will need to detoxify their

bodies by a variety of methods following explant to aid in their

recovery. There is alot of valuable information on this site on

about just every aspect of getting explanted and recovering. We are

a very helpful and friendly group of women committed to helping and

supporting each other and getting the word out about the harm caused

by implants.

I am sorry that your husband was just deployed. I can imagine that

this is a very stressful time for you in just about everyway

possible. We will be here for you to support you when he cannot.

Are your parents supportive of you? Do they live closeby? It would

be great if they did.

Your ps may not be the person you want to see. They most often

disagree that your implants are the cause of your illness and often

make you feel like you will be making a huge mistake if you get

explanted. Of course that is not true, but be prepared because this

often happens. Whoever you go to, you need to make sure they will

remove the entire capsule along with the implant and preferably

without deflating the implant first. If the capsule is left behind

(which ps's like to do because it is easier) there is less of a

chance for a good recovery. I know it must be tough to take care of

three young children by yourself and be fighting poor health to

boot. Alot of us have been there and can relate. There is light at

the end of the tunnel and you can look forward to getting better.

Hugs, Kathy

--- In , " mkkinzy1 " <mkkinzy@m...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I am here in hopes to gain support in my recent findings about

> implants. I got McGhan saline implants in 2000. In the last year

I

> have been to the DR many times, especially over the last couple of

> months. I have been diagnosed with Fibermyelgia, Chronic Fatigue,

> and have found arthritis everywhere. I am scheduled to see

> rheumtology and spine dr's over next few weeks. I recently got

> steriod injections in my SI and PSI joints, but still have

horrible

> burning/pain throughout. I have also had 2 rounds of blood tests

> once this summer and again in November to check for RA, Lupus,

etc.

> I have been very healthy in the past. I turned 30 in

> August and kidded that the aging process hit hard this year. Now

I

> am a wreck and my 65 year old parents are healthier than me.

> To make my situation more complicated... My husband is in the

> Guards and just left friday on deployment. I have a 6 year old, 3

> year old, and 1 year old (I breastfed the 1yr and 3 yr with

> implants). I am struggling to care for them let

> alone myself. I have been frantically researching my symptoms for

> several months and came across the info on implants last week. I

> was shocked. I thought my implants were safe. I made an

> appointment to see Plastic Surgeon this coming Friday. Ironically

I

> orginally called and said I was concerned about autoimmune and I

was

> scheduled for a month out. I called back and said I have pain and

> was scheduled for week out. How does that work?? I know I want

to

> get an explant ASAP. I am scared, as I have been so happy with my

> results. But I just want my health back. I felt like I would be

a

> better Mom if I got implants and had a better self estem. Now

years

> later I can't even crawl around on the floor with my kids. ( I

> want to know what I can do to get better. I am scared and feel

> sooooo alone.

> Thanks for reading my post.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi to you to - I'm so glad you found us. I was in exactly your

situation a few months ago. I had my implants in 1997 and was also

happy with the results. I had two young kids (an infant and a one

year old) at the time. For some women, they get sick right away,

for me it was a couple years into it. The summer I hit 40, I

thought - wow, is this what I can expect? I felt awful, with

horrible pains in my chest and between my shoulder blades, horrible

fatigue, and I felt like my blood got hot when I would walk up a

flight of stairs. I want to all sorts of doctors, they thought

fibromyalgia for me too. This past summer a bone scan and CT scan

diagnosed spondyloarthropathy (a form of arthritis). No doctor EVER

told me it could be the implants, in fact, when I brought it up they

emphatically said no. I found this site and have learned so much

from these wonderful women - and I just couldn't believe that so

many women with implants were sick with similar symptoms, I knew it

couldn't be coincidence. I was explanted in October. I have had

some real encouraging times of feeling good since then, but I am

back to feeling pain again. I realize that, because the implants

were a foreign body in side of me, my own immune system went

haywire, and it is going to take a lot of prayer and hard work to

get it working well again.

Your PS is probably going to tell you that your are not sick from

the implants. Mine did the first time I went back to him. When I

went back three years later, after much prayer, he responded

differently, and agreed that, though he doesn't believe everyone

gets sick from implants, that I could be having an immune reaction

to them. All the women here will tell you that you need to go to a

doctor who believes what you know to be true, and also who will

remove the implant intact, along with the capsule that has formed

around the implant. Depending on your area, the girls here can help

you find a good doc.

Hang in there, and know that you don't have to suffer the rest of

your life. Be encouraged that so many women have healed after

explant. I'll be praying for you as you figure things out and try

to make important decisions about your health. You're not alone!!

Cherie

--- In , " mkkinzy1 " <mkkinzy@m...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I am here in hopes to gain support in my recent findings about

> implants. I got McGhan saline implants in 2000. In the last year

I

> have been to the DR many times, especially over the last couple of

> months. I have been diagnosed with Fibermyelgia, Chronic Fatigue,

> and have found arthritis everywhere. I am scheduled to see

> rheumtology and spine dr's over next few weeks. I recently got

> steriod injections in my SI and PSI joints, but still have

horrible

> burning/pain throughout. I have also had 2 rounds of blood tests

> once this summer and again in November to check for RA, Lupus,

etc.

> I have been very healthy in the past. I turned 30 in

> August and kidded that the aging process hit hard this year. Now

I

> am a wreck and my 65 year old parents are healthier than me.

> To make my situation more complicated... My husband is in the

> Guards and just left friday on deployment. I have a 6 year old, 3

> year old, and 1 year old (I breastfed the 1yr and 3 yr with

> implants). I am struggling to care for them let

> alone myself. I have been frantically researching my symptoms for

> several months and came across the info on implants last week. I

> was shocked. I thought my implants were safe. I made an

> appointment to see Plastic Surgeon this coming Friday. Ironically

I

> orginally called and said I was concerned about autoimmune and I

was

> scheduled for a month out. I called back and said I have pain and

> was scheduled for week out. How does that work?? I know I want

to

> get an explant ASAP. I am scared, as I have been so happy with my

> results. But I just want my health back. I felt like I would be

a

> better Mom if I got implants and had a better self estem. Now

years

> later I can't even crawl around on the floor with my kids. ( I

> want to know what I can do to get better. I am scared and feel

> sooooo alone.

> Thanks for reading my post.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I'm sorry you're sick but happy you're here. This site has been

my salvation, and I felt completely alone until I was lead here. I

had my explant in early November and I'm so glad they're out of my

body. Some people see a change in their health immediately after

explant, others take more time to heal - which is the case with

myself. We'll help you in any way possible with information and

support, so as the song says " lean on me when you're not strong " .

Sis

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I am here in hopes to gain support in my recent findings about

> > implants. I got McGhan saline implants in 2000. In the last

year

> I

> > have been to the DR many times, especially over the last couple

of

> > months. I have been diagnosed with Fibermyelgia, Chronic

Fatigue,

> > and have found arthritis everywhere. I am scheduled to see

> > rheumtology and spine dr's over next few weeks. I recently got

> > steriod injections in my SI and PSI joints, but still have

> horrible

> > burning/pain throughout. I have also had 2 rounds of blood

tests

> > once this summer and again in November to check for RA, Lupus,

> etc.

> > I have been very healthy in the past. I turned 30 in

> > August and kidded that the aging process hit hard this year.

Now

> I

> > am a wreck and my 65 year old parents are healthier than me.

> > To make my situation more complicated... My husband is in the

> > Guards and just left friday on deployment. I have a 6 year old,

3

> > year old, and 1 year old (I breastfed the 1yr and 3 yr with

> > implants). I am struggling to care for them let

> > alone myself. I have been frantically researching my symptoms

for

> > several months and came across the info on implants last week.

I

> > was shocked. I thought my implants were safe. I made an

> > appointment to see Plastic Surgeon this coming Friday.

Ironically

> I

> > orginally called and said I was concerned about autoimmune and I

> was

> > scheduled for a month out. I called back and said I have pain

and

> > was scheduled for week out. How does that work?? I know I want

> to

> > get an explant ASAP. I am scared, as I have been so happy with

my

> > results. But I just want my health back. I felt like I would

be

> a

> > better Mom if I got implants and had a better self estem. Now

> years

> > later I can't even crawl around on the floor with my kids. (

I

> > want to know what I can do to get better. I am scared and feel

> > sooooo alone.

> > Thanks for reading my post.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am glad you are here. Just like you I had McGhan in the year

2000. (April) And just like you my symptoms started about a year

ago. I have almost the same story, except Fibro is my only

diagnosis, besides Interstitial Cystitis. There hasn't been a

doctor yet who can tell me what is wrong and what is causing this.

After I found this site earlier this month, I am convinced it is my

implants. I am 32 years old and shouldn't feel like an old lady. I

have had to stop working and stop attending my classes for Nursing.

I have just recently convinced my gerneral practitioner that my

implants are causing my symptoms. I have my explant surgery date

scheduled for Feb. 3. I have chosen Dr. Lu-Feng in Ohio. This

is going to be a 7 hour drive for us, but she is highly recommeded

from many on this site. Where do you live? If close enough you

might just try giving her office a call or at least look at her

website. Your children need a healthly mom, you need a Dr. who will

give you the best care. Like Rogene stated, get them removed " en-

bloc " .

In good health,

--- In , " mkkinzy1 " <mkkinzy@m...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I am here in hopes to gain support in my recent findings about

> implants. I got McGhan saline implants in 2000. In the last year

I

> have been to the DR many times, especially over the last couple of

> months. I have been diagnosed with Fibermyelgia, Chronic Fatigue,

> and have found arthritis everywhere. I am scheduled to see

> rheumtology and spine dr's over next few weeks. I recently got

> steriod injections in my SI and PSI joints, but still have

horrible

> burning/pain throughout. I have also had 2 rounds of blood tests

> once this summer and again in November to check for RA, Lupus,

etc.

> I have been very healthy in the past. I turned 30 in

> August and kidded that the aging process hit hard this year. Now

I

> am a wreck and my 65 year old parents are healthier than me.

> To make my situation more complicated... My husband is in the

> Guards and just left friday on deployment. I have a 6 year old, 3

> year old, and 1 year old (I breastfed the 1yr and 3 yr with

> implants). I am struggling to care for them let

> alone myself. I have been frantically researching my symptoms for

> several months and came across the info on implants last week. I

> was shocked. I thought my implants were safe. I made an

> appointment to see Plastic Surgeon this coming Friday. Ironically

I

> orginally called and said I was concerned about autoimmune and I

was

> scheduled for a month out. I called back and said I have pain and

> was scheduled for week out. How does that work?? I know I want

to

> get an explant ASAP. I am scared, as I have been so happy with my

> results. But I just want my health back. I felt like I would be

a

> better Mom if I got implants and had a better self estem. Now

years

> later I can't even crawl around on the floor with my kids. ( I

> want to know what I can do to get better. I am scared and feel

> sooooo alone.

> Thanks for reading my post.

>