Re: Cherie

[Guest guest]

> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits end,

> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had to

> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a way to

> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do - my

> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so hurt, I

> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right that

> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I know your

> story, if you want to share.

> Cherie

Hi Cherie,

I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way too much pain.

I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I didn't work, which

was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier today, maybe

you missed it:

Hi Cherie,

It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will get you

pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other women that

used to be on this list that treated with him last year with great results,

I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were local women and

did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was about to be

implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a voice in the

back of my head kept saying there was more to the story than " implants are

safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to risk my

health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had fibromyalgia,

liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and IC. There are

probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I was taking

handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt like I was

dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married for many

years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I just knew there

had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and nothing

explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying. I was

exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I didn't have a

job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you here, just

to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA test yet

tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated with an ND

who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it can function

at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works on its own.

Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I needed

something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the ability to get

well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began treating

with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year after she did.

He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being somewhat

healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of the time. He is

brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works. He has even

been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on their board of

directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does seminars, I

believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast cancer. His

specialties are in hormones and cancer.

I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-regulatory panel. My

short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural health and it

has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain them. I have

also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no sex drive

whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the reason, I am

extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being properly utilized

in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino that is used

in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be great and sex

drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients get scared

about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have memory loss at

age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily corrected. MD's would

prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My female

hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be sorry that you

did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a challenge. He was

just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he loves it! He

doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help his patient.

He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients, yet we don't

pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who enjoys my

complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone before him.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Kenda

[Guest guest]

Kenda - I'm glad you shared that. It is such a blessing you didn't

get the implants, with your already weakened body, who knows. I am

really encouraged by what you tell me about Dr. Leu. I think it's

great that he cares that much and really wants to get his patients

well. I didn't get the papers from him today. Maybe tomorrow. In

the meantime, I made it another day without taking the prednisone in

my cupboard. I did give in to an antihistamine today though. I

think you're right, if the steroids get me feeling better

temporarily, I really won't be able to express to Dr. Leu at the

time of my appointment just how bad I feel. I just wonder what this

inflammation is doing to my bones - at last CT scan, it wasn't too

good, and it's much worse now. I can see the inflammation in my

chest wall, and also I get this soft tissue swelling at the base of

my neck. I'm so glad you are a success story, and can hardly wait

to get there! How old is your baby now?

Cherie

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...>

wrote:

>

>

> > Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits end,

> > but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had to

> > wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

way to

> > fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do - my

> > nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so hurt, I

> > can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right that

> > you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I know

your

> > story, if you want to share.

> > Cherie

>

> Hi Cherie,

>

> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way too

much pain.

> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I didn't

work, which

> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

today, maybe

> you missed it:

>

> Hi Cherie,

>

> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will get

you

> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other women

that

> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with great

results,

> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were local

women and

> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

>

> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

about to be

> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a voice

in the

> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

than " implants are

> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to risk

my

> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

fibromyalgia,

> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and IC.

There are

> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I was

taking

> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt like

I was

> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married for

many

> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I just

knew there

> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

nothing

> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying. I was

> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I didn't

have a

> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

here, just

> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA test

yet

> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

with an ND

> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it can

function

> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works on

its own.

> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

needed

> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

ability to get

> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

treating

> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

after she did.

> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

somewhat

> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of the

time. He is

> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works. He

has even

> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on their

board of

> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

seminars, I

> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

cancer. His

> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

>

> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-regulatory

panel. My

> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural health

and it

> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain them.

I have

> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no sex

drive

> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

reason, I am

> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being properly

utilized

> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino that

is used

> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be great

and sex

> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients get

scared

> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

memory loss at

> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily corrected.

MD's would

> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My female

> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

>

> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be sorry

that you

> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

challenge. He was

> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he loves

it! He

> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help his

patient.

> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients, yet

we don't

> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who enjoys my

> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone before

him.

>

> Let me know if you have any other questions.

>

> Kenda

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cherie,

I'm glad you went another day without prednisone, each day is a good thing!

You mention inflammation, I have a very inflammatory body naturally and

take a natural anti-inflammatory twice a day. Inflammation in the body

leads to so many problems and diseases. If he can get the inflammation down

in your body, it can impact your total overall health, including your

allergies. I'm anxious to hear what he does for you. I used to take

allergy meds daily too but haven't taken any, not even herbal, for over 6

months. I'm still getting better all the time.

My babies are now 16 and 13. Hard to believe, they're nearly adults now.

Kenda

> Kenda - I'm glad you shared that. It is such a blessing you didn't

> get the implants, with your already weakened body, who knows. I am

> really encouraged by what you tell me about Dr. Leu. I think it's

> great that he cares that much and really wants to get his patients

> well. I didn't get the papers from him today. Maybe tomorrow. In

> the meantime, I made it another day without taking the prednisone in

> my cupboard. I did give in to an antihistamine today though. I

> think you're right, if the steroids get me feeling better

> temporarily, I really won't be able to express to Dr. Leu at the

> time of my appointment just how bad I feel. I just wonder what this

> inflammation is doing to my bones - at last CT scan, it wasn't too

> good, and it's much worse now. I can see the inflammation in my

> chest wall, and also I get this soft tissue swelling at the base of

> my neck. I'm so glad you are a success story, and can hardly wait

> to get there! How old is your baby now?

> Cherie

>

>>

>>

>>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits end,

>>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had to

>>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

> way to

>>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do - my

>>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so hurt, I

>>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right that

>>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I know

> your

>>> story, if you want to share.

>>> Cherie

>>

>> Hi Cherie,

>>

>> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way too

> much pain.

>> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I didn't

> work, which

>> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

> today, maybe

>> you missed it:

>>

>> Hi Cherie,

>>

>> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will get

> you

>> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other women

> that

>> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with great

> results,

>> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were local

> women and

>> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

>>

>> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

> about to be

>> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a voice

> in the

>> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

> than " implants are

>> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to risk

> my

>> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

> fibromyalgia,

>> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and IC.

> There are

>> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I was

> taking

>> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt like

> I was

>> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married for

> many

>> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I just

> knew there

>> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

> nothing

>> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying. I was

>> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I didn't

> have a

>> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

> here, just

>> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA test

> yet

>> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

> with an ND

>> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it can

> function

>> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works on

> its own.

>> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

> needed

>> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

> ability to get

>> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

> treating

>> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

> after she did.

>> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

> somewhat

>> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of the

> time. He is

>> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works. He

> has even

>> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on their

> board of

>> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

> seminars, I

>> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

> cancer. His

>> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

>>

>> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-regulatory

> panel. My

>> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural health

> and it

>> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain them.

> I have

>> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no sex

> drive

>> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

> reason, I am

>> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being properly

> utilized

>> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino that

> is used

>> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be great

> and sex

>> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

>> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients get

> scared

>> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

> memory loss at

>> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily corrected.

> MD's would

>> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My female

>> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

>>

>> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be sorry

> that you

>> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

> challenge. He was

>> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he loves

> it! He

>> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help his

> patient.

>> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients, yet

> we don't

>> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who enjoys my

>> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone before

> him.

>>

>> Let me know if you have any other questions.

>>

>> Kenda

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cherie,

Sorry you're in so much pain, you are in my thoughts and prayers as

always. I'm going to call Dr. Leu as well, I haven't heard back

from the other doctor I mentioned, and I have the feeling that

perhaps Dr. Leu might offer a little more personal care, which is

what I need right now. I'm determined to get my life back, too.

I'm getting alot of calls all of a sudden regarding job interviews,

so I'm encouraged by that. I'm well enough to work, even though I

have alot of fatigue, and perhaps working would take my mind off my

sore joints. Today was the first day of school, but if I get a job

offer I will take the job and then make a new plan as far as

continuing my education goes. I'm thankful I had the implants out

after six months, I'm sure I would have continued to get worse had I

kept them in - it's just amazing how quickly they took me down.

Sis

> >>

> >>

> >>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits

end,

> >>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had

to

> >>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

> > way to

> >>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do -

my

> >>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

hurt, I

> >>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right

that

> >>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I know

> > your

> >>> story, if you want to share.

> >>> Cherie

> >>

> >> Hi Cherie,

> >>

> >> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way

too

> > much pain.

> >> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I didn't

> > work, which

> >> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

> > today, maybe

> >> you missed it:

> >>

> >> Hi Cherie,

> >>

> >> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will

get

> > you

> >> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

women

> > that

> >> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

great

> > results,

> >> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were local

> > women and

> >> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

> >>

> >> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

> > about to be

> >> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a voice

> > in the

> >> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

> > than " implants are

> >> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to

risk

> > my

> >> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

> > fibromyalgia,

> >> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and

IC.

> > There are

> >> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I

was

> > taking

> >> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt

like

> > I was

> >> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married

for

> > many

> >> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I just

> > knew there

> >> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

> > nothing

> >> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying. I

was

> >> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

didn't

> > have a

> >> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

> > here, just

> >> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA

test

> > yet

> >> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

> > with an ND

> >> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it

can

> > function

> >> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works

on

> > its own.

> >> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

> > needed

> >> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

> > ability to get

> >> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

> > treating

> >> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

> > after she did.

> >> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

> > somewhat

> >> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of the

> > time. He is

> >> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works. He

> > has even

> >> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

their

> > board of

> >> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

> > seminars, I

> >> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

> > cancer. His

> >> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

> >>

> >> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-regulatory

> > panel. My

> >> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

health

> > and it

> >> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

them.

> > I have

> >> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no

sex

> > drive

> >> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

> > reason, I am

> >> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

properly

> > utilized

> >> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino

that

> > is used

> >> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

great

> > and sex

> >> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

> >> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients

get

> > scared

> >> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

> > memory loss at

> >> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily corrected.

> > MD's would

> >> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

female

> >> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

> >>

> >> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

sorry

> > that you

> >> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

> > challenge. He was

> >> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he loves

> > it! He

> >> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help

his

> > patient.

> >> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients,

yet

> > we don't

> >> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who enjoys

my

> >> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone before

> > him.

> >>

> >> Let me know if you have any other questions.

> >>

> >> Kenda

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sis, It is amazing to see many who had a problem with the implants right away, like yourself. I on the other hand has had them for 6 years and my problems really took me down in the past year. I wonder why it hits everyone different. How is your recovery coming along? I wonder if the age of the implants have anything to do with how fast someone gets better. auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: Hi Cherie,Sorry you're in so much pain, you are in my thoughts and prayers as always. I'm going to call Dr. Leu as well, I haven't heard back from the other doctor I mentioned, and I have the feeling that perhaps Dr. Leu might offer a little more personal care, which is what I need right now. I'm determined to get my life

back, too. I'm getting alot of calls all of a sudden regarding job interviews, so I'm encouraged by that. I'm well enough to work, even though I have alot of fatigue, and perhaps working would take my mind off my sore joints. Today was the first day of school, but if I get a job offer I will take the job and then make a new plan as far as continuing my education goes. I'm thankful I had the implants out after six months, I'm sure I would have continued to get worse had I kept them in - it's just amazing how quickly they took me down.Sis> >> > >>

> >>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits end,> >>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had to> >>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a> > way to> >>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do - my> >>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so hurt, I> >>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right that> >>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I know> > your> >>> story, if you want to share.> >>> Cherie> >> > >> Hi Cherie,> >> > >> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way too> > much pain.> >> I was a couch potato that had to care for a

new baby. I didn't> > work, which> >> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier> > today, maybe> >> you missed it:> >> > >> Hi Cherie,> >> > >> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will get> > you> >> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other women> > that> >> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with great> > results,> >> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were local> > women and> >> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.> >> > >> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was> > about to be> >> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a voice> > in the> >>

back of my head kept saying there was more to the story> > than "implants are> >> safe". I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to risk> > my> >> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had> > fibromyalgia,> >> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and IC.> > There are> >> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I was> > taking> >> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt like> > I was> >> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married for> > many> >> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I just> > knew there> >> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and> > nothing> >> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I

was dying. I was> >> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I didn't> > have a> >> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you> > here, just> >> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA test> > yet> >> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated> > with an ND> >> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it can> > function> >> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works on> > its own.> >> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I> > needed> >> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the> > ability to get> >> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began> > treating> >> with Dr. Leu

who joined the office she worked at about a year> > after she did.> >> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being> > somewhat> >> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of the> > time. He is> >> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works. He> > has even> >> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on their> > board of> >> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does> > seminars, I> >> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast> > cancer. His> >> specialties are in hormones and cancer.> >> > >> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-regulatory> > panel. My> >> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural health> > and it>

>> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain them.> > I have> >> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no sex> > drive> >> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the> > reason, I am> >> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being properly> > utilized> >> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino that> > is used> >> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be great> > and sex> >> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on> >> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients get> > scared> >> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have> > memory loss at> >> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily

corrected.> > MD's would> >> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My female> >> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons. > >> > >> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be sorry> > that you> >> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a> > challenge. He was> >> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he loves> > it! He> >> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help his> > patient.> >> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients, yet> > we don't> >> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who enjoys my> >> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone before> > him.> >> > >> Let me know if you

have any other questions.> >> > >> Kenda> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.> > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a> > happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

My recovery is slow. I haven't done much as far as detoxing goes,

either, so that might be another factor. I was hoping that I could

just eat well and drink alot of water and get better, however I need

help flushing the toxins out. I also think healing depends on a

person's body, because I've seen people post on this site who were

extremely sick and had implants for a few years and responded

quickly to explant, some who had them a long time and didn't respond

real quick, and others like myself who had them for a short while

but took longer to get better. I had a weak immune system to begin

with, so that might be why I got sick so quickly. Perhaps your body

was fighting it for 6 years and when it could fight no longer, you

started having symptoms. Also, I may have reacted to the chemicals

that my implants were made from, whereas you may be reacting to

bacteria or fungus that's built up in the implant. I wish we knew

for sure what makes us sick from these things. I recall seeing in a

post that there's sometimes a " honeymoon period " after explant,

where you feel good only to have your symptoms come back after about

6 weeks. I think that's probably what happened with me. I don't

have all the symptoms I had pre-explant, though. I also feel very

happy with my body, I did not like having something foreign in my

body at all. It's a relief to have them out.

Sis

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits

> end,

> > >>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I

had

> to

> > >>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

> > > way to

> > >>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do -

> my

> > >>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

> hurt, I

> > >>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right

> that

> > >>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I

know

> > > your

> > >>> story, if you want to share.

> > >>> Cherie

> > >>

> > >> Hi Cherie,

> > >>

> > >> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way

> too

> > > much pain.

> > >> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I

didn't

> > > work, which

> > >> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

> > > today, maybe

> > >> you missed it:

> > >>

> > >> Hi Cherie,

> > >>

> > >> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will

> get

> > > you

> > >> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

> women

> > > that

> > >> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

> great

> > > results,

> > >> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were

local

> > > women and

> > >> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

> > >>

> > >> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

> > > about to be

> > >> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a

voice

> > > in the

> > >> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

> > > than " implants are

> > >> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to

> risk

> > > my

> > >> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

> > > fibromyalgia,

> > >> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and

> IC.

> > > There are

> > >> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer.

I

> was

> > > taking

> > >> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt

> like

> > > I was

> > >> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married

> for

> > > many

> > >> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I

just

> > > knew there

> > >> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

> > > nothing

> > >> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying.

I

> was

> > >> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

> didn't

> > > have a

> > >> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

> > > here, just

> > >> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA

> test

> > > yet

> > >> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

> > > with an ND

> > >> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it

> can

> > > function

> > >> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body

works

> on

> > > its own.

> > >> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

> > > needed

> > >> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

> > > ability to get

> > >> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

> > > treating

> > >> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

> > > after she did.

> > >> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

> > > somewhat

> > >> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of

the

> > > time. He is

> > >> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works.

He

> > > has even

> > >> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

> their

> > > board of

> > >> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

> > > seminars, I

> > >> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

> > > cancer. His

> > >> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

> > >>

> > >> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-

regulatory

> > > panel. My

> > >> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

> health

> > > and it

> > >> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

> them.

> > > I have

> > >> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no

> sex

> > > drive

> > >> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

> > > reason, I am

> > >> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

> properly

> > > utilized

> > >> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino

> that

> > > is used

> > >> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

> great

> > > and sex

> > >> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

> > >> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients

> get

> > > scared

> > >> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

> > > memory loss at

> > >> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily

corrected.

> > > MD's would

> > >> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

> female

> > >> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

> > >>

> > >> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

> sorry

> > > that you

> > >> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

> > > challenge. He was

> > >> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he

loves

> > > it! He

> > >> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to

help

> his

> > > patient.

> > >> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients,

> yet

> > > we don't

> > >> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who

enjoys

> my

> > >> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone

before

> > > him.

> > >>

> > >> Let me know if you have any other questions.

> > >>

> > >> Kenda

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> two-time

> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I hate to keep complaining, but I have heard some of you talk about

pain in your arm??? The pain tonight is spreading down my arm and I

feel some tingling in my hand.

Kenda - you are right about the inflammation and damage. I have

been taking fish oil, but it doesn't seem to be helping much. I

always get worse around dinner time for the rest of the evening.

16 and 13! you have been working at your health for a long time.

It's a good thing to be still getting better as you get older, and

not worse.

Thanks everyone.

Cherie

> >>

> >>

> >>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits

end,

> >>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had

to

> >>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

> > way to

> >>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do -

my

> >>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

hurt, I

> >>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right

that

> >>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I know

> > your

> >>> story, if you want to share.

> >>> Cherie

> >>

> >> Hi Cherie,

> >>

> >> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way

too

> > much pain.

> >> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I didn't

> > work, which

> >> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

> > today, maybe

> >> you missed it:

> >>

> >> Hi Cherie,

> >>

> >> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will

get

> > you

> >> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

women

> > that

> >> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

great

> > results,

> >> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were local

> > women and

> >> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

> >>

> >> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

> > about to be

> >> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a voice

> > in the

> >> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

> > than " implants are

> >> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to

risk

> > my

> >> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

> > fibromyalgia,

> >> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and

IC.

> > There are

> >> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I

was

> > taking

> >> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt

like

> > I was

> >> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married

for

> > many

> >> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I just

> > knew there

> >> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

> > nothing

> >> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying. I

was

> >> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

didn't

> > have a

> >> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

> > here, just

> >> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA

test

> > yet

> >> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

> > with an ND

> >> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it

can

> > function

> >> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works

on

> > its own.

> >> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

> > needed

> >> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

> > ability to get

> >> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

> > treating

> >> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

> > after she did.

> >> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

> > somewhat

> >> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of the

> > time. He is

> >> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works. He

> > has even

> >> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

their

> > board of

> >> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

> > seminars, I

> >> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

> > cancer. His

> >> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

> >>

> >> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-regulatory

> > panel. My

> >> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

health

> > and it

> >> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

them.

> > I have

> >> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no

sex

> > drive

> >> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

> > reason, I am

> >> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

properly

> > utilized

> >> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino

that

> > is used

> >> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

great

> > and sex

> >> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

> >> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients

get

> > scared

> >> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

> > memory loss at

> >> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily corrected.

> > MD's would

> >> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

female

> >> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

> >>

> >> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

sorry

> > that you

> >> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

> > challenge. He was

> >> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he loves

> > it! He

> >> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help

his

> > patient.

> >> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients,

yet

> > we don't

> >> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who enjoys

my

> >> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone before

> > him.

> >>

> >> Let me know if you have any other questions.

> >>

> >> Kenda

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sis - It's probably a good thing it took you down so quickly, then

you have no doubts as to what made you sick. That's great about the

interviews, especially if you're feeling up to it. I'm so greatful

that I work from my home office and can get up and stretch or rest

when I need to. I'm not very busy right now, so I guess that's a

blessing. Thank you for the prayers, this is so awful. It seems to

be just dragging on with no let up. We have this big old house that

we love to work on, and I just can't pitch in right now. It's a lot

just to keep it semi clean. I hope your interviews go well.

Cherie

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits

> end,

> > >>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I

had

> to

> > >>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

> > > way to

> > >>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do -

> my

> > >>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

> hurt, I

> > >>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right

> that

> > >>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I

know

> > > your

> > >>> story, if you want to share.

> > >>> Cherie

> > >>

> > >> Hi Cherie,

> > >>

> > >> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way

> too

> > > much pain.

> > >> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I

didn't

> > > work, which

> > >> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

> > > today, maybe

> > >> you missed it:

> > >>

> > >> Hi Cherie,

> > >>

> > >> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will

> get

> > > you

> > >> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

> women

> > > that

> > >> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

> great

> > > results,

> > >> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were

local

> > > women and

> > >> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

> > >>

> > >> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

> > > about to be

> > >> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a

voice

> > > in the

> > >> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

> > > than " implants are

> > >> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to

> risk

> > > my

> > >> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

> > > fibromyalgia,

> > >> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and

> IC.

> > > There are

> > >> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer.

I

> was

> > > taking

> > >> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt

> like

> > > I was

> > >> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married

> for

> > > many

> > >> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I

just

> > > knew there

> > >> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

> > > nothing

> > >> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying.

I

> was

> > >> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

> didn't

> > > have a

> > >> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

> > > here, just

> > >> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA

> test

> > > yet

> > >> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

> > > with an ND

> > >> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it

> can

> > > function

> > >> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body

works

> on

> > > its own.

> > >> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

> > > needed

> > >> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

> > > ability to get

> > >> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

> > > treating

> > >> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

> > > after she did.

> > >> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

> > > somewhat

> > >> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of

the

> > > time. He is

> > >> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works.

He

> > > has even

> > >> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

> their

> > > board of

> > >> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

> > > seminars, I

> > >> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

> > > cancer. His

> > >> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

> > >>

> > >> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-

regulatory

> > > panel. My

> > >> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

> health

> > > and it

> > >> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

> them.

> > > I have

> > >> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no

> sex

> > > drive

> > >> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

> > > reason, I am

> > >> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

> properly

> > > utilized

> > >> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino

> that

> > > is used

> > >> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

> great

> > > and sex

> > >> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

> > >> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients

> get

> > > scared

> > >> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

> > > memory loss at

> > >> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily

corrected.

> > > MD's would

> > >> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

> female

> > >> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

> > >>

> > >> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

> sorry

> > > that you

> > >> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

> > > challenge. He was

> > >> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he

loves

> > > it! He

> > >> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to

help

> his

> > > patient.

> > >> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients,

> yet

> > > we don't

> > >> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who

enjoys

> my

> > >> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone

before

> > > him.

> > >>

> > >> Let me know if you have any other questions.

> > >>

> > >> Kenda

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> two-time

> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Cherie - overall I feel fatigued, and my joints hurt, and sometimes

my lymph nodes are sore as well - but the pain and discomfort is not

dibilitating. I am thankful I got sick right away and had no doubt

as to what caused my body to go crazy, and that I got them out of

there before I got sicker. I have peace of mind knowing the

implants are gone, even though they left behind some bio-junk that

is still causing problems. Like so many of us on this site, I have

alot of determination, and when something bad happens I might go

through a spell where I'm not functioning like I should, but then

something kicks in and I get angry, and that anger seems to come out

in positive ways - thankfully. That's why I'm searching for a job,

because I think it'll almost make me feel normal again, to be

holding down a job and bringing in money. Even if I don't feel

great, I'm trying my best to be patient - and I feel so badly for

the extreme pain you are in. I think sometimes our bodies have to

get over the surgery, too. Surgery is traumatic to the body,

especially when we're already sick. I'm waiting for spring, wake me

up when winter is over.

Sis

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my

wits

> > end,

> > > >>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I

> had

> > to

> > > >>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will

find a

> > > > way to

> > > >>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to

do -

>

> > my

> > > >>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

> > hurt, I

> > > >>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand

right

> > that

> > > >>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I

> know

> > > > your

> > > >>> story, if you want to share.

> > > >>> Cherie

> > > >>

> > > >> Hi Cherie,

> > > >>

> > > >> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in

way

> > too

> > > > much pain.

> > > >> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I

> didn't

> > > > work, which

> > > >> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this

earlier

> > > > today, maybe

> > > >> you missed it:

> > > >>

> > > >> Hi Cherie,

> > > >>

> > > >> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he

will

> > get

> > > > you

> > > >> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of

other

> > women

> > > > that

> > > >> used to be on this list that treated with him last year

with

> > great

> > > > results,

> > > >> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were

> local

> > > > women and

> > > >> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

> > > >>

> > > >> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I

was

> > > > about to be

> > > >> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a

> voice

> > > > in the

> > > >> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

> > > > than " implants are

> > > >> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing

to

> > risk

> > > > my

> > > >> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

> > > > fibromyalgia,

> > > >> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue

and

> > IC.

> > > > There are

> > > >> probably other things that I don't even remember any

longer.

> I

> > was

> > > > taking

> > > >> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally

felt

> > like

> > > > I was

> > > >> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been

married

> > for

> > > > many

> > > >> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I

> just

> > > > knew there

> > > >> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick

and

> > > > nothing

> > > >> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was

dying.

> I

> > was

> > > >> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

> > didn't

> > > > have a

> > > >> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of

you

> > > > here, just

> > > >> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive

ANA

> > test

> > > > yet

> > > >> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first

treated

> > > > with an ND

> > > >> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so

it

> > can

> > > > function

> > > >> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body

> works

> > on

> > > > its own.

> > > >> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for

me. I

> > > > needed

> > > >> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had

the

> > > > ability to get

> > > >> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I

began

> > > > treating

> > > >> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a

year

> > > > after she did.

> > > >> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

> > > > somewhat

> > > >> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of

> the

> > > > time. He is

> > > >> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body

works.

> He

> > > > has even

> > > >> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

> > their

> > > > board of

> > > >> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

> > > > seminars, I

> > > >> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding

breast

> > > > cancer. His

> > > >> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

> > > >>

> > > >> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-

> regulatory

> > > > panel. My

> > > >> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

> > health

> > > > and it

> > > >> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't

retain

> > them.

> > > > I have

> > > >> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have

no

> > sex

> > > > drive

> > > >> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

> > > > reason, I am

> > > >> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

> > properly

> > > > utilized

> > > >> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an

amino

> > that

> > > > is used

> > > >> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

> > great

> > > > and sex

> > > >> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

> > > >> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as

patients

> > get

> > > > scared

> > > >> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

> > > > memory loss at

> > > >> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily

> corrected.

> > > > MD's would

> > > >> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause.

My

> > female

> > > >> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

> > > >>

> > > >> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll

be

> > sorry

> > > > that you

> > > >> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

> > > > challenge. He was

> > > >> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he

> loves

> > > > it! He

> > > >> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to

> help

> > his

> > > > patient.

> > > >> He spends hours each day researching for all of his

patients,

> > yet

> > > > we don't

> > > >> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who

> enjoys

> > my

> > > >> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone

> before

> > > > him.

> > > >>

> > > >> Let me know if you have any other questions.

> > > >>

> > > >> Kenda

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed

> > > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care

> > > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you.

> > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > how to live a

> > > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

> > two-time

> > > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

> link:

> > > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Cherie - nighttime is the worst time for me as well, seems to start

around dinnertime, too.

I've been having tingling in my hand, generally when I wake up in

the AM. It's different than the tingling that I had prior to

explant, though. That tingling was more like a stinging/numb

feeling and it was under my fingernails and toenails. I'm not sure

if this latest tingling is because I fell right before Christmas and

maybe pinched something in my neck, or if it's related to the

implants. I often wonder if the joints in my neck are swelling,

too. I'd like to have an MRI to see if I've got a pinched nerve or

a herniated disk - but I wanted to ask if anyone knows any reason

why I shouldn't have that test run.

Sis

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits

> end,

> > >>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I

had

> to

> > >>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

> > > way to

> > >>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do -

> my

> > >>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

> hurt, I

> > >>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right

> that

> > >>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I

know

> > > your

> > >>> story, if you want to share.

> > >>> Cherie

> > >>

> > >> Hi Cherie,

> > >>

> > >> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way

> too

> > > much pain.

> > >> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I

didn't

> > > work, which

> > >> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

> > > today, maybe

> > >> you missed it:

> > >>

> > >> Hi Cherie,

> > >>

> > >> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will

> get

> > > you

> > >> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

> women

> > > that

> > >> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

> great

> > > results,

> > >> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were

local

> > > women and

> > >> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

> > >>

> > >> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

> > > about to be

> > >> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a

voice

> > > in the

> > >> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

> > > than " implants are

> > >> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to

> risk

> > > my

> > >> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

> > > fibromyalgia,

> > >> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and

> IC.

> > > There are

> > >> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer.

I

> was

> > > taking

> > >> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt

> like

> > > I was

> > >> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married

> for

> > > many

> > >> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I

just

> > > knew there

> > >> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

> > > nothing

> > >> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying.

I

> was

> > >> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

> didn't

> > > have a

> > >> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

> > > here, just

> > >> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA

> test

> > > yet

> > >> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

> > > with an ND

> > >> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it

> can

> > > function

> > >> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body

works

> on

> > > its own.

> > >> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

> > > needed

> > >> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

> > > ability to get

> > >> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

> > > treating

> > >> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

> > > after she did.

> > >> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

> > > somewhat

> > >> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of

the

> > > time. He is

> > >> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works.

He

> > > has even

> > >> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

> their

> > > board of

> > >> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

> > > seminars, I

> > >> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

> > > cancer. His

> > >> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

> > >>

> > >> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-

regulatory

> > > panel. My

> > >> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

> health

> > > and it

> > >> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

> them.

> > > I have

> > >> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no

> sex

> > > drive

> > >> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

> > > reason, I am

> > >> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

> properly

> > > utilized

> > >> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino

> that

> > > is used

> > >> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

> great

> > > and sex

> > >> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

> > >> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients

> get

> > > scared

> > >> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

> > > memory loss at

> > >> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily

corrected.

> > > MD's would

> > >> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

> female

> > >> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

> > >>

> > >> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

> sorry

> > > that you

> > >> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

> > > challenge. He was

> > >> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he

loves

> > > it! He

> > >> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to

help

> his

> > > patient.

> > >> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients,

> yet

> > > we don't

> > >> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who

enjoys

> my

> > >> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone

before

> > > him.

> > >>

> > >> Let me know if you have any other questions.

> > >>

> > >> Kenda

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> two-time

> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty!

I believe the testing that determined my body's natural inflammatory nature

was genetic testing by Genomic, or something like that.

The product I use for inflammation contains skullcap root extract, bee

propolis extract, turmeric root extract and graminex G60 (pollen extract).

I have been on this product for two or three years and it has helped

tremendously. Inflammation can be very dangerous, causing all kinds of

illness and disease. My husband was treated with the same product because

of his high blood pressure, along with a BP tincture made by Dr. Leu. His

BP was normal within a week!

Kenda

> Hi Kenda and Cherie,

> I am so behind in posts! But Kenda, I had to ask you about your

> naturally inflammatory body....how do you test for that?

>

> Also, I am sure have told us before, but what is the natural anti-

> inflammatory that you take twice a day?

> Patty

>

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits

> end,

>>>>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had

> to

>>>>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

>>> way to

>>>>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do -

> my

>>>>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

> hurt, I

>>>>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right

> that

>>>>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I know

>>> your

>>>>> story, if you want to share.

>>>>> Cherie

>>>>

>>>> Hi Cherie,

>>>>

>>>> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way

> too

>>> much pain.

>>>> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I didn't

>>> work, which

>>>> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

>>> today, maybe

>>>> you missed it:

>>>>

>>>> Hi Cherie,

>>>>

>>>> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will

> get

>>> you

>>>> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

> women

>>> that

>>>> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

> great

>>> results,

>>>> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were local

>>> women and

>>>> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

>>>>

>>>> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

>>> about to be

>>>> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a voice

>>> in the

>>>> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

>>> than " implants are

>>>> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to

> risk

>>> my

>>>> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

>>> fibromyalgia,

>>>> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and

> IC.

>>> There are

>>>> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I

> was

>>> taking

>>>> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt

> like

>>> I was

>>>> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married

> for

>>> many

>>>> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I just

>>> knew there

>>>> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

>>> nothing

>>>> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying. I

> was

>>>> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

> didn't

>>> have a

>>>> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

>>> here, just

>>>> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA

> test

>>> yet

>>>> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

>>> with an ND

>>>> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it

> can

>>> function

>>>> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works

> on

>>> its own.

>>>> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

>>> needed

>>>> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

>>> ability to get

>>>> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

>>> treating

>>>> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

>>> after she did.

>>>> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

>>> somewhat

>>>> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of the

>>> time. He is

>>>> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works. He

>>> has even

>>>> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

> their

>>> board of

>>>> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

>>> seminars, I

>>>> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

>>> cancer. His

>>>> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

>>>>

>>>> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-regulatory

>>> panel. My

>>>> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

> health

>>> and it

>>>> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

> them.

>>> I have

>>>> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no

> sex

>>> drive

>>>> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

>>> reason, I am

>>>> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

> properly

>>> utilized

>>>> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino

> that

>>> is used

>>>> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

> great

>>> and sex

>>>> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

>>>> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients

> get

>>> scared

>>>> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

>>> memory loss at

>>>> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily corrected.

>>> MD's would

>>>> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

> female

>>>> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

>>>>

>>>> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

> sorry

>>> that you

>>>> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

>>> challenge. He was

>>>> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he loves

>>> it! He

>>>> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help

> his

>>> patient.

>>>> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients,

> yet

>>> we don't

>>>> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who enjoys

> my

>>>> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone before

>>> him.

>>>>

>>>> Let me know if you have any other questions.

>>>>

>>>> Kenda

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Cherie,

Be sure to talk to Dr. Leu about your inflammation. I don't take fish oil

at all because I eat fish but have taken the product I wrote Patty about for

inflammation for a few years. It helps tremendously.

Kenda

> I hate to keep complaining, but I have heard some of you talk about

> pain in your arm??? The pain tonight is spreading down my arm and I

> feel some tingling in my hand.

>

> Kenda - you are right about the inflammation and damage. I have

> been taking fish oil, but it doesn't seem to be helping much. I

> always get worse around dinner time for the rest of the evening.

>

> 16 and 13! you have been working at your health for a long time.

> It's a good thing to be still getting better as you get older, and

> not worse.

> Thanks everyone.

> Cherie

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits

> end,

>>>>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had

> to

>>>>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

>>> way to

>>>>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do -

> my

>>>>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

> hurt, I

>>>>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right

> that

>>>>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I know

>>> your

>>>>> story, if you want to share.

>>>>> Cherie

>>>>

>>>> Hi Cherie,

>>>>

>>>> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way

> too

>>> much pain.

>>>> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I didn't

>>> work, which

>>>> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

>>> today, maybe

>>>> you missed it:

>>>>

>>>> Hi Cherie,

>>>>

>>>> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will

> get

>>> you

>>>> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

> women

>>> that

>>>> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

> great

>>> results,

>>>> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were local

>>> women and

>>>> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

>>>>

>>>> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

>>> about to be

>>>> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a voice

>>> in the

>>>> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

>>> than " implants are

>>>> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to

> risk

>>> my

>>>> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

>>> fibromyalgia,

>>>> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and

> IC.

>>> There are

>>>> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I

> was

>>> taking

>>>> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt

> like

>>> I was

>>>> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married

> for

>>> many

>>>> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I just

>>> knew there

>>>> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

>>> nothing

>>>> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying. I

> was

>>>> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

> didn't

>>> have a

>>>> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

>>> here, just

>>>> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA

> test

>>> yet

>>>> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

>>> with an ND

>>>> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it

> can

>>> function

>>>> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works

> on

>>> its own.

>>>> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

>>> needed

>>>> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

>>> ability to get

>>>> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

>>> treating

>>>> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

>>> after she did.

>>>> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

>>> somewhat

>>>> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of the

>>> time. He is

>>>> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works. He

>>> has even

>>>> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

> their

>>> board of

>>>> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

>>> seminars, I

>>>> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

>>> cancer. His

>>>> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

>>>>

>>>> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-regulatory

>>> panel. My

>>>> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

> health

>>> and it

>>>> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

> them.

>>> I have

>>>> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no

> sex

>>> drive

>>>> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

>>> reason, I am

>>>> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

> properly

>>> utilized

>>>> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino

> that

>>> is used

>>>> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

> great

>>> and sex

>>>> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

>>>> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients

> get

>>> scared

>>>> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

>>> memory loss at

>>>> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily corrected.

>>> MD's would

>>>> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

> female

>>>> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

>>>>

>>>> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

> sorry

>>> that you

>>>> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

>>> challenge. He was

>>>> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he loves

>>> it! He

>>>> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help

> his

>>> patient.

>>>> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients,

> yet

>>> we don't

>>>> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who enjoys

> my

>>>> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone before

>>> him.

>>>>

>>>> Let me know if you have any other questions.

>>>>

>>>> Kenda

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

I just bought a product that has bee propolis, royal jelly and

pollen and something else in it. So that's good to know! There are

several good natural anti-inflammatories out there. I have a

renewed motivation to fight inflammation this year. My root canal

is still burning, and I can only imagine what my body is doing on

the inside. I think inflammation is a major problem for me still.

And it is scary to think of what those long term effects are. I may

end up just pulling this tooth anyway because it scares me too much

to have had this inflammation going on for 9 months now!

Thanks Kenda. I need to get tested.

Patty

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits

> > end,

> >>>>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had

> > to

> >>>>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

> >>> way to

> >>>>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do -

> > my

> >>>>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

> > hurt, I

> >>>>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right

> > that

> >>>>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I

know

> >>> your

> >>>>> story, if you want to share.

> >>>>> Cherie

> >>>>

> >>>> Hi Cherie,

> >>>>

> >>>> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way

> > too

> >>> much pain.

> >>>> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I

didn't

> >>> work, which

> >>>> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

> >>> today, maybe

> >>>> you missed it:

> >>>>

> >>>> Hi Cherie,

> >>>>

> >>>> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will

> > get

> >>> you

> >>>> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

> > women

> >>> that

> >>>> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

> > great

> >>> results,

> >>>> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were

local

> >>> women and

> >>>> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

> >>>>

> >>>> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

> >>> about to be

> >>>> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a

voice

> >>> in the

> >>>> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

> >>> than " implants are

> >>>> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to

> > risk

> >>> my

> >>>> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

> >>> fibromyalgia,

> >>>> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and

> > IC.

> >>> There are

> >>>> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I

> > was

> >>> taking

> >>>> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt

> > like

> >>> I was

> >>>> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married

> > for

> >>> many

> >>>> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I

just

> >>> knew there

> >>>> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

> >>> nothing

> >>>> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying. I

> > was

> >>>> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

> > didn't

> >>> have a

> >>>> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

> >>> here, just

> >>>> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA

> > test

> >>> yet

> >>>> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

> >>> with an ND

> >>>> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it

> > can

> >>> function

> >>>> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works

> > on

> >>> its own.

> >>>> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

> >>> needed

> >>>> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

> >>> ability to get

> >>>> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

> >>> treating

> >>>> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

> >>> after she did.

> >>>> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

> >>> somewhat

> >>>> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of

the

> >>> time. He is

> >>>> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works.

He

> >>> has even

> >>>> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

> > their

> >>> board of

> >>>> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

> >>> seminars, I

> >>>> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

> >>> cancer. His

> >>>> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

> >>>>

> >>>> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-

regulatory

> >>> panel. My

> >>>> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

> > health

> >>> and it

> >>>> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

> > them.

> >>> I have

> >>>> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no

> > sex

> >>> drive

> >>>> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

> >>> reason, I am

> >>>> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

> > properly

> >>> utilized

> >>>> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino

> > that

> >>> is used

> >>>> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

> > great

> >>> and sex

> >>>> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

> >>>> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients

> > get

> >>> scared

> >>>> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

> >>> memory loss at

> >>>> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily

corrected.

> >>> MD's would

> >>>> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

> > female

> >>>> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

> >>>>

> >>>> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

> > sorry

> >>> that you

> >>>> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

> >>> challenge. He was

> >>>> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he

loves

> >>> it! He

> >>>> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help

> > his

> >>> patient.

> >>>> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients,

> > yet

> >>> we don't

> >>>> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who

enjoys

> > my

> >>>> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone

before

> >>> him.

> >>>>

> >>>> Let me know if you have any other questions.

> >>>>

> >>>> Kenda

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed

> >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care

> >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>

> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > mislead you.

> >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> > how to live a

> >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time

> >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>

> >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >>>

> >>>

[Guest guest]

Patty, before you have the tooth pulled, take the anti-inflammatory product

for a few months. It took my root canalled tooth quite a while to calm

down, even though I was taking the herbal anti-inflammatory. I had the root

canal done 13 months ago and it has only been in the last few months that I

have had absolutely no pain at all.

Kenda

> I just bought a product that has bee propolis, royal jelly and

> pollen and something else in it. So that's good to know! There are

> several good natural anti-inflammatories out there. I have a

> renewed motivation to fight inflammation this year. My root canal

> is still burning, and I can only imagine what my body is doing on

> the inside. I think inflammation is a major problem for me still.

> And it is scary to think of what those long term effects are. I may

> end up just pulling this tooth anyway because it scares me too much

> to have had this inflammation going on for 9 months now!

> Thanks Kenda. I need to get tested.

> Patty

>

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my wits

>>> end,

>>>>>>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I had

>>> to

>>>>>>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will find a

>>>>> way to

>>>>>>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to do -

>>> my

>>>>>>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

>>> hurt, I

>>>>>>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand right

>>> that

>>>>>>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I

> know

>>>>> your

>>>>>>> story, if you want to share.

>>>>>>> Cherie

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hi Cherie,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in way

>>> too

>>>>> much pain.

>>>>>> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I

> didn't

>>>>> work, which

>>>>>> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this earlier

>>>>> today, maybe

>>>>>> you missed it:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hi Cherie,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he will

>>> get

>>>>> you

>>>>>> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

>>> women

>>>>> that

>>>>>> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

>>> great

>>>>> results,

>>>>>> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were

> local

>>>>> women and

>>>>>> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I was

>>>>> about to be

>>>>>> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a

> voice

>>>>> in the

>>>>>> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

>>>>> than " implants are

>>>>>> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing to

>>> risk

>>>>> my

>>>>>> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

>>>>> fibromyalgia,

>>>>>> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue and

>>> IC.

>>>>> There are

>>>>>> probably other things that I don't even remember any longer. I

>>> was

>>>>> taking

>>>>>> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally felt

>>> like

>>>>> I was

>>>>>> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been married

>>> for

>>>>> many

>>>>>> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I

> just

>>>>> knew there

>>>>>> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick and

>>>>> nothing

>>>>>> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was dying. I

>>> was

>>>>>> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

>>> didn't

>>>>> have a

>>>>>> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of you

>>>>> here, just

>>>>>> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive ANA

>>> test

>>>>> yet

>>>>>> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first treated

>>>>> with an ND

>>>>>> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so it

>>> can

>>>>> function

>>>>>> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body works

>>> on

>>>>> its own.

>>>>>> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for me. I

>>>>> needed

>>>>>> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had the

>>>>> ability to get

>>>>>> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I began

>>>>> treating

>>>>>> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a year

>>>>> after she did.

>>>>>> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

>>>>> somewhat

>>>>>> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of

> the

>>>>> time. He is

>>>>>> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body works.

> He

>>>>> has even

>>>>>> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

>>> their

>>>>> board of

>>>>>> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

>>>>> seminars, I

>>>>>> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding breast

>>>>> cancer. His

>>>>>> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-

> regulatory

>>>>> panel. My

>>>>>> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

>>> health

>>>>> and it

>>>>>> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

>>> them.

>>>>> I have

>>>>>> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have no

>>> sex

>>>>> drive

>>>>>> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

>>>>> reason, I am

>>>>>> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

>>> properly

>>>>> utilized

>>>>>> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an amino

>>> that

>>>>> is used

>>>>>> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

>>> great

>>>>> and sex

>>>>>> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

>>>>>> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as patients

>>> get

>>>>> scared

>>>>>> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

>>>>> memory loss at

>>>>>> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily

> corrected.

>>>>> MD's would

>>>>>> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

>>> female

>>>>>> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

>>> sorry

>>>>> that you

>>>>>> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

>>>>> challenge. He was

>>>>>> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he

> loves

>>>>> it! He

>>>>>> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to help

>>> his

>>>>> patient.

>>>>>> He spends hours each day researching for all of his patients,

>>> yet

>>>>> we don't

>>>>>> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who

> enjoys

>>> my

>>>>>> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone

> before

>>>>> him.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Let me know if you have any other questions.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Kenda

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>>> given by licensed

>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>>> health care

>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>>>

>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>>> mislead you.

>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

>>> how to live a

>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

>>> two-time

>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>>>

>>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

> link:

>>>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>>>

>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

You are a real tooth- & -life-saver! ; )

I will take your advice and keep up with the anti-inflammatory I am

taking. I will even step it up. Hopefully things will calm down,

but waiting a whole year is going to be taxing on my patience! But,

it's not like I haven't had to be patient for healing before...<sigh>

Was your pain a throbbing, aching sort of pain, or a burning pain?

My endodontist said he hears alot about throbbing pain, but rarely

about burning pain. I have to wonder if it has anything to do with

that broken off file that is embedded in the gutta perch in my

root? It's the only wrench that was thrown in the works with this

whole root canal thing. I would feel so much better if that metal

wasn't in there.

Thanks again Kenda!

Patty

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my

wits

> >>> end,

> >>>>>>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I

had

> >>> to

> >>>>>>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will

find a

> >>>>> way to

> >>>>>>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to

do -

> >>> my

> >>>>>>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

> >>> hurt, I

> >>>>>>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand

right

> >>> that

> >>>>>>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I

> > know

> >>>>> your

> >>>>>>> story, if you want to share.

> >>>>>>> Cherie

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Hi Cherie,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in

way

> >>> too

> >>>>> much pain.

> >>>>>> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I

> > didn't

> >>>>> work, which

> >>>>>> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this

earlier

> >>>>> today, maybe

> >>>>>> you missed it:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Hi Cherie,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he

will

> >>> get

> >>>>> you

> >>>>>> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

> >>> women

> >>>>> that

> >>>>>> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

> >>> great

> >>>>> results,

> >>>>>> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were

> > local

> >>>>> women and

> >>>>>> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I

was

> >>>>> about to be

> >>>>>> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a

> > voice

> >>>>> in the

> >>>>>> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

> >>>>> than " implants are

> >>>>>> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing

to

> >>> risk

> >>>>> my

> >>>>>> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

> >>>>> fibromyalgia,

> >>>>>> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue

and

> >>> IC.

> >>>>> There are

> >>>>>> probably other things that I don't even remember any

longer. I

> >>> was

> >>>>> taking

> >>>>>> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally

felt

> >>> like

> >>>>> I was

> >>>>>> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been

married

> >>> for

> >>>>> many

> >>>>>> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I

> > just

> >>>>> knew there

> >>>>>> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick

and

> >>>>> nothing

> >>>>>> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was

dying. I

> >>> was

> >>>>>> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

> >>> didn't

> >>>>> have a

> >>>>>> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of

you

> >>>>> here, just

> >>>>>> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive

ANA

> >>> test

> >>>>> yet

> >>>>>> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first

treated

> >>>>> with an ND

> >>>>>> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so

it

> >>> can

> >>>>> function

> >>>>>> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body

works

> >>> on

> >>>>> its own.

> >>>>>> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for

me. I

> >>>>> needed

> >>>>>> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had

the

> >>>>> ability to get

> >>>>>> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I

began

> >>>>> treating

> >>>>>> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a

year

> >>>>> after she did.

> >>>>>> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

> >>>>> somewhat

> >>>>>> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of

> > the

> >>>>> time. He is

> >>>>>> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body

works.

> > He

> >>>>> has even

> >>>>>> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

> >>> their

> >>>>> board of

> >>>>>> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

> >>>>> seminars, I

> >>>>>> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding

breast

> >>>>> cancer. His

> >>>>>> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-

> > regulatory

> >>>>> panel. My

> >>>>>> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

> >>> health

> >>>>> and it

> >>>>>> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

> >>> them.

> >>>>> I have

> >>>>>> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have

no

> >>> sex

> >>>>> drive

> >>>>>> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

> >>>>> reason, I am

> >>>>>> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

> >>> properly

> >>>>> utilized

> >>>>>> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an

amino

> >>> that

> >>>>> is used

> >>>>>> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

> >>> great

> >>>>> and sex

> >>>>>> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

> >>>>>> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as

patients

> >>> get

> >>>>> scared

> >>>>>> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

> >>>>> memory loss at

> >>>>>> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily

> > corrected.

> >>>>> MD's would

> >>>>>> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

> >>> female

> >>>>>> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

> >>> sorry

> >>>>> that you

> >>>>>> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

> >>>>> challenge. He was

> >>>>>> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he

> > loves

> >>>>> it! He

> >>>>>> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to

help

> >>> his

> >>>>> patient.

> >>>>>> He spends hours each day researching for all of his

patients,

> >>> yet

> >>>>> we don't

> >>>>>> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who

> > enjoys

> >>> my

> >>>>>> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone

> > before

> >>>>> him.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Let me know if you have any other questions.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Kenda

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> >>> given by licensed

> >>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> >>> health care

> >>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> >>> mislead you.

> >>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> >>> how to live a

> >>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> > ing,

> >>> two-time

> >>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>>>

> >>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

> > link:

> >>>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty!

I'm glad to help save your tooth.

My tooth was throbbing, no burning like you describe. I'd still give it

some time to get the inflammation down and see how it feels then. My endo

offered to redo the root canal while it was still symptomatic but my dentist

said that he as a few patients who don't get better, even after a repeat

root canal is performed. I decided to wait it out see what happened, unless

the pain became intolerable. It is fine now.

Kenda

> Kenda,

> You are a real tooth- & -life-saver! ; )

>

> I will take your advice and keep up with the anti-inflammatory I am

> taking. I will even step it up. Hopefully things will calm down,

> but waiting a whole year is going to be taxing on my patience! But,

> it's not like I haven't had to be patient for healing before...<sigh>

>

> Was your pain a throbbing, aching sort of pain, or a burning pain?

> My endodontist said he hears alot about throbbing pain, but rarely

> about burning pain. I have to wonder if it has anything to do with

> that broken off file that is embedded in the gutta perch in my

> root? It's the only wrench that was thrown in the works with this

> whole root canal thing. I would feel so much better if that metal

> wasn't in there.

> Thanks again Kenda!

> Patty

>

>

>

>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Oh Kenda - thanks. It's just so hard - I do feel at my

> wits

>>>>> end,

>>>>>>>>> but I guess I can always dig deeper. My fax is out, so I

> had

>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>> wait for the mail. Once I fill out the papers, I will

> find a

>>>>>>> way to

>>>>>>>>> fax them to him. There are just so many things I want to

> do -

>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>> nature is that of a very active person, but my body is so

>>>>> hurt, I

>>>>>>>>> can't be the person that I truly am. Did I understand

> right

>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>> you wanted to get implants, but did not? I don't think I

>>> know

>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>> story, if you want to share.

>>>>>>>>> Cherie

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Hi Cherie,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I was once the same way, I wanted to be active but was in

> way

>>>>> too

>>>>>>> much pain.

>>>>>>>> I was a couch potato that had to care for a new baby. I

>>> didn't

>>>>>>> work, which

>>>>>>>> was a blessing because I napped often. I posted this

> earlier

>>>>>>> today, maybe

>>>>>>>> you missed it:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Hi Cherie,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> It does take a while to get started but I promise you he

> will

>>>>> get

>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>> pointed in the right direction. There were a couple of other

>>>>> women

>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>> used to be on this list that treated with him last year with

>>>>> great

>>>>>>> results,

>>>>>>>> I wish they were still here to reassure you. Neither were

>>> local

>>>>>>> women and

>>>>>>>> did all of their work with him via telephone and mail.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> My story is that I joined this list one year ago because I

> was

>>>>>>> about to be

>>>>>>>> implanted. I had a surgery date set a few weeks away but a

>>> voice

>>>>>>> in the

>>>>>>>> back of my head kept saying there was more to the story

>>>>>>> than " implants are

>>>>>>>> safe " . I had been very sick in the past and wasn't willing

> to

>>>>> risk

>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>> health for more youthful breasts. Several years ago, I had

>>>>>>> fibromyalgia,

>>>>>>>> liver congestion, terrible allergies, IB, chronic fatigue

> and

>>>>> IC.

>>>>>>> There are

>>>>>>>> probably other things that I don't even remember any

> longer. I

>>>>> was

>>>>>>> taking

>>>>>>>> handfuls of prescription drugs to function and literally

> felt

>>>>> like

>>>>>>> I was

>>>>>>>> dying. I even had an HIV test, even though I had been

> married

>>>>> for

>>>>>>> many

>>>>>>>> years and neither of us fit any of the HIV risk profiles. I

>>> just

>>>>>>> knew there

>>>>>>>> had to be another way of getting it because I was so sick

> and

>>>>>>> nothing

>>>>>>>> explained why. I had a year old baby and I knew I was

> dying. I

>>>>> was

>>>>>>>> exhausted all of the time just caring for him. Thank God I

>>>>> didn't

>>>>>>> have a

>>>>>>>> job at the same time. I had tons of lab work, like most of

> you

>>>>>>> here, just

>>>>>>>> to hear that I was fine or see a shrink. I had a positive

> ANA

>>>>> test

>>>>>>> yet

>>>>>>>> tested negative for lupus. MDs got me nowhere. I first

> treated

>>>>>>> with an ND

>>>>>>>> who believed that one should gently supplement the body so

> it

>>>>> can

>>>>>>> function

>>>>>>>> at his best and then get off the supplements so the body

> works

>>>>> on

>>>>>>> its own.

>>>>>>>> Sounded like a good goal yet the program didn't work for

> me. I

>>>>>>> needed

>>>>>>>> something more aggressive and a doctor who believed I had

> the

>>>>>>> ability to get

>>>>>>>> well. Fortunately for me, she moved back to Oregon and I

> began

>>>>>>> treating

>>>>>>>> with Dr. Leu who joined the office she worked at about a

> year

>>>>>>> after she did.

>>>>>>>> He has worked miracles for me, literally. I went from being

>>>>>>> somewhat

>>>>>>>> healthy some of the time to being vibrant and active all of

>>> the

>>>>>>> time. He is

>>>>>>>> brilliant and has such insight into how the human body

> works.

>>> He

>>>>>>> has even

>>>>>>>> been asked to work with Xymogen supplement company to be on

>>>>> their

>>>>>>> board of

>>>>>>>> directors to assist in supplement compounding. He also does

>>>>>>> seminars, I

>>>>>>>> believe the last one was for Xymogen and was regarding

> breast

>>>>>>> cancer. His

>>>>>>>> specialties are in hormones and cancer.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I just saw him today for a hormone panel and a Neuro-

>>> regulatory

>>>>>>> panel. My

>>>>>>>> short-term memory has been pretty bad. I'm studying natural

>>>>> health

>>>>>>> and it

>>>>>>>> has been pretty scary because I read things and don't retain

>>>>> them.

>>>>>>> I have

>>>>>>>> also felt like I was zooming at the same time. I also have

> no

>>>>> sex

>>>>>>> drive

>>>>>>>> whatsoever. He ordered the two labs which clearly showed the

>>>>>>> reason, I am

>>>>>>>> extremely high in Serotonin because Serotonin isn't being

>>>>> properly

>>>>>>> utilized

>>>>>>>> in its pathway. He adjusted one supplement and added an

> amino

>>>>> that

>>>>>>> is used

>>>>>>>> in the Serotonin pathway. In a few days my memory should be

>>>>> great

>>>>>>> and sex

>>>>>>>> drive returned! The sex drive issue is the same as those on

>>>>>>>> anti-depressants. These are little things that we as

> patients

>>>>> get

>>>>>>> scared

>>>>>>>> about and wonder what could be so terribly wrong that I have

>>>>>>> memory loss at

>>>>>>>> age 45! It's a simple hormone problem that is easily

>>> corrected.

>>>>>>> MD's would

>>>>>>>> prescribe some sort of drug instead of look to the cause. My

>>>>> female

>>>>>>>> hormones are perfect for the first time in many moons.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> If you choose to treat with Dr. Leu, I don't think you'll be

>>>>> sorry

>>>>>>> that you

>>>>>>>> did. One of the best things about him is that he loves a

>>>>>>> challenge. He was

>>>>>>>> just telling me today how complicated I am --- and that he

>>> loves

>>>>>>> it! He

>>>>>>>> doesn't run from a a challenge, he digs deeper into it to

> help

>>>>> his

>>>>>>> patient.

>>>>>>>> He spends hours each day researching for all of his

> patients,

>>>>> yet

>>>>>>> we don't

>>>>>>>> pay for this time. It's nice for me to have a doctor who

>>> enjoys

>>>>> my

>>>>>>>> complicity instead of complaining about it, like everyone

>>> before

>>>>>>> him.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Let me know if you have any other questions.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Kenda

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>>>>> given by licensed

>>>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>>>>> health care

>>>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>>>>> mislead you.

>>>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> about

>>>>> how to live a

>>>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>>> ing,

>>>>> two-time

>>>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

>>> link:

>>>>>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Patty

thank you so much for thinking of me. I stopped taking the

Prednisone on Wednesday, and by Saturday I had pain again. Right

now it's not too bad, but I might be headed back there again.

During my last rough time with pain, I knew that I should be writing

my story, but I didn't do it. Over the last month, being pain free,

I don't have the same passion to write it. But I know that there is

a reason I went through all of this, and that God has a purpose for

me. This sounds crazy, and maybe only another believer would

understand, but I almost feel that I need my pain back so that I can

journal my experience with passion. Don't get me wrong, I really

want to get well. I just think that if God brings me back there, I

have a job to do, and I accept that. I don't even know how to begin

writing it, or who it is supposed to help, I just know that I have

to do it.

Hugs

Cherie

> >

> > Hi - every time I read a post like yours - I am more and

> more

> > convinced that the implants are making women sick. I had mine

out

> > in October and felt quite a bit better right away, and then

> relapsed

> > hard. Everyone is different, and I have seen a few women

recover

> > right away (Jenna for one). But for most of us, it takes time

to

> > undo the harm that the implants caused. We may never be

> completely

> > well again, but I've seen enough women on this site get so much

> > better that it keeps me encouraged. I just started treatment

with

> > Dr. Leu, an ND recommended by Kenda of this site. My consult

was

> > over the phone, but very thorough. He did blood and urine

testing

> > and has recommended treatment based on the results. I am just

> > getting started and am hopeful he will be able to help me.

Maybe

> > someone like Dr. Leu could help you get on a plan. For me I

felt

> > like I was fumbling around, not knowing which supplement to try,

> and

> > I like the idea of having a specialist tell me what to do. I'm

> > glad you found this site. You've already taken a major step

> toward

> > getting well by having your implants removed. It can only get

> > better now.

> > Hugs,

> > Cherie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cherie,

I see Dr. Leu in an hour. Is it ok if I mention to him that you aren't

feeling better?

I have had a few neuroregulatory panels. My last one was several weeks ago

but I wanted to rerun it again. Since doing so much detox work, I feel like

my symptoms have changed, we'll see what's up.

Are you taking Isocort for your adrenals? If you are still tired, I wonder

if your adrenals are weakened. This was the case for me and Isocort really

helped with the fatigue.

Take care,

Kenda

> Kenda

> thanks for asking - since being off the prednisone, my pain is

> gradually coming back - still at a tolerable level - sleeping well -

> actually I am more fatigued than I have ever been and feel like

> sleeping all the time - very weird for me. I did talk to Dr. Leu

> last week and I just received the test kit for leaky gut. After

> reading that website, I asked him about it, and also the allergy

> avoidance diet. He pretty much said that was going to be my next

> step anyway, he was just trying to get the other things better first

> (neuroregulatory). So I have been off wheat and dairy for a week

> (along with no sugar, preservatives, or anything processed). I

> don't feel any better yet, still pain, terrible sinus problems and

> fatigue. Maybe herxing. I'll give it another day or two, then I am

> going to call Dr. Leu again. The thyroid med and other things are

> supposed to make me have more energy, but I feel more tired. Go

> figure. The good thing is that I lost six pounds in six days! (I

> know that's not recommended, but losing weight is not my focus right

> now like it used to be, I'm mainly doing these things to get feeling

> better).

>

> Is this your first neuroregulatory panel? How are you feeling? I

> know what you mean about MDs, it seems many only want to treat the

> symptoms with drugs, which lead to different problems. I really

> like finding the cause and go from there.

>

> I have to get to work -

> hugs,

> Cherie

>

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks Patty and Lynda,

>>>>>

>>>>> I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I

>>>>> still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt

>>>>> for no treatment, or a six-week course.

>>>>>

>>>>> NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .

>>>>>

>>>>> Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and

>>>>> follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is

>>>>> less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or

>>>>> medication is about 40%. It could be years before

>>>>> reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via

>>>>> radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of

>>>>> women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -

>>>>> even in women with small tumors.

>>>>>

>>>>> I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and

>>>>> going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have

>>>>> knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that

>>>>> put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was

>>>>> done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD

>>>>> regardless.

>>>>>

>>>>> I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure

>>>>> that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do

>>>>> right now while trying to figure out what I'll do

>>>>> next.

>>>>>

>>>>> Hugs,

>>>>>

>>>>> Rogene

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Hey Cherie,

I was in your neck of the woods this weekend, my husband and I went

to a trade show at the Historic Naval Yards - very interesting.

You are such a trooper, and I think you'll eventually find the

formula that gets you well because of your determination.

Sis

(

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Thanks Patty and Lynda,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I

> >>>>> still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt

> >>>>> for no treatment, or a six-week course.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and

> >>>>> follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is

> >>>>> less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or

> >>>>> medication is about 40%. It could be years before

> >>>>> reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via

> >>>>> radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of

> >>>>> women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -

> >>>>> even in women with small tumors.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and

> >>>>> going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have

> >>>>> knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that

> >>>>> put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was

> >>>>> done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD

> >>>>> regardless.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure

> >>>>> that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do

> >>>>> right now while trying to figure out what I'll do

> >>>>> next.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Hugs,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Rogene

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed

> >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care

> >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>

> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > mislead you.

> >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> > how to live a

> >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time

> >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>

> >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >>>

> >>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kenda and Sis

yes I do take Isocort, but I had run out and went a few days without

it. I just started back on it. Maybe that could have something to

do with it. How did your appointment go today, Kenda?

Sis - the naval yard isn't too far from here - maybe 15 miles,

though I've never been there, I've seen it from the bridge. Wish we

could have met, but your time was probably short. Did you get the

results back from your labs yet? What's up with your new job? I'm

sorry if I missed the most recent posts. Are you feeling any better?

Cherie

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Thanks Patty and Lynda,

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I

> > >>>>> still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt

> > >>>>> for no treatment, or a six-week course.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and

> > >>>>> follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is

> > >>>>> less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or

> > >>>>> medication is about 40%. It could be years before

> > >>>>> reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via

> > >>>>> radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of

> > >>>>> women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -

> > >>>>> even in women with small tumors.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and

> > >>>>> going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have

> > >>>>> knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that

> > >>>>> put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was

> > >>>>> done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD

> > >>>>> regardless.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure

> > >>>>> that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do

> > >>>>> right now while trying to figure out what I'll do

> > >>>>> next.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Hugs,

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Rogene

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > > given by licensed

> > >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > > health care

> > >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >>>

> > >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > > mislead you.

> > >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > > how to live a

> > >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

> > > two-time

> > >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >>>

> > >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

> link:

> > >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > >>>

> > >>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cherie,

Yes, Isocort is extremely important to help your adrenals. Isocort is to

the adrenal gland as Westhroid is to the thyroid gland. If you need it,

your body will tell you when you don't take it. Weak adrenals can

definitely cause exhaustion.

My appointment went very well. He explained my neuroregulatory problems. I

also had the hospital fax over my bone density results, along with my

mammogram results. My GYN didn't see fit to call me with my bone density

results -- I had the test done nearly a month ago. I have osteopenia and it

needs to be treated. Dr. Leu has a special group of supplements he uses to

build bones. It has the traditional things like calcium, magnesium and

vitamin D but it has one other thing that is stronger but I can't remember

what it is. He was thrilled when I told him we are buying an infrared

sauna!

Kenda

> Hi Kenda and Sis

> yes I do take Isocort, but I had run out and went a few days without

> it. I just started back on it. Maybe that could have something to

> do with it. How did your appointment go today, Kenda?

>

> Sis - the naval yard isn't too far from here - maybe 15 miles,

> though I've never been there, I've seen it from the bridge. Wish we

> could have met, but your time was probably short. Did you get the

> results back from your labs yet? What's up with your new job? I'm

> sorry if I missed the most recent posts. Are you feeling any better?

> Cherie

>

>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thanks Patty and Lynda,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I

>>>>>>>> still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt

>>>>>>>> for no treatment, or a six-week course.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and

>>>>>>>> follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is

>>>>>>>> less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or

>>>>>>>> medication is about 40%. It could be years before

>>>>>>>> reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via

>>>>>>>> radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of

>>>>>>>> women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -

>>>>>>>> even in women with small tumors.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and

>>>>>>>> going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have

>>>>>>>> knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that

>>>>>>>> put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was

>>>>>>>> done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD

>>>>>>>> regardless.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure

>>>>>>>> that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do

>>>>>>>> right now while trying to figure out what I'll do

>>>>>>>> next.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Hugs,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Rogene

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>>>> given by licensed

>>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>>>> health care

>>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>>>> mislead you.

>>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> about

>>>> how to live a

>>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>> ing,

>>>> two-time

>>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

>> link:

>>>>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>>>>

>>>>>>