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MK . . .

Personally, I'd find another doctor. The doctors we

recommend don't care if the implant is over or under

the muscle. . . They take it all out, if at all

possible.

IMHO, What your doctor describes is what allows

plastic surgeons to tell women that removing their

implants will not make them well and that their

illness is not because of their implants.

If your implant was contaminated on implanting, the

capsule that surrounds the implant contains

microganisms. If your implant is leaking, the organism

may be contained by the capsule. This can be spilled

into your chest when the implants are removed. As

implants age, they shed particles. . . These are

contained by the capsules.

I know you want to keep it simple and see an easily

accessible doctor - but in this case, it's worth

taking the time and trouble to find a doctor who will

do the job right so you can get well!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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> MK . . .

>

> Personally, I'd find another doctor. The doctors we

> recommend don't care if the implant is over or under

> the muscle. . . They take it all out, if at all

> possible.

>

> IMHO, What your doctor describes is what allows

> plastic surgeons to tell women that removing their

> implants will not make them well and that their

> illness is not because of their implants.

>

> If your implant was contaminated on implanting, the

> capsule that surrounds the implant contains

> microganisms. If your implant is leaking, the organism

> may be contained by the capsule. This can be spilled

> into your chest when the implants are removed. As

> implants age, they shed particles. . . These are

> contained by the capsules.

>

> I know you want to keep it simple and see an easily

> accessible doctor - but in this case, it's worth

> taking the time and trouble to find a doctor who will

> do the job right so you can get well!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

Thanks Rogene! I needed to hear this. I called my PS after I got

your reply to my post and pleaded my case to get the capsules out.

I found some info online and read it to the PS. I was told it would

take an extra 30 min per side and I would have a larger scar. I

don't care, as I just want this done right. As of right now I

planning on Friday. Although the secretary told me that with the

added time it may not work. Please pray I can get these out. I

just had my appointment with rheumatology this morning and just need

them out.

Hugs and thanks again for the support.

MK

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MK,

Please tell your doctor what you want in writing and

give it to your doctor along with the information that

backs up the need to remove your implants en bloc

before Friday! Monday, if possible!

I feel so fortunate . . . At the time I had my

implants removed, there weren't many docs willing to

removed them at all! . . . I was given the name of a

doc who had removed another woman's so I went to him.

All knew was that I wanted was them OUT. I didn't know

anything about en bloc or capsules . . .

He did do a total capsulectomy, even though, to this

day, he believes implants are safe and usually leaves

the capsules! . . . I believe the Lord held his hands!

Many of the women explanted (usually gel implants)

during that time period are just as sick, sicker or

dead. So it's very, very important that they be

removed properly!

We've found some doctors who SAY they will remove them

properly, only to find out later they didn't do it

right - according to their post-op report. You must be

firm!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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My thoughts are that you need to be firm in requesting a total

capsulectomy...the drains are a good idea, but those implants need to

be removed properly so that you don't have any reason to be concerned

about " leftovers " in the future. Leftover implant scar tissue is no

good. Doctors frequently will say they will do their " best " to get it

all out, but then state they just couldn't because it was too hard to

get at it. This is their " out " . It takes more skill and time to do a

proper explant, so make sure your doctor is going to care about you

and your health as a patient, not just the money he is going to get

for his time. Gosh, I hope that doesn't sound too harsh...I know

there are kind doctors out there, but just be sure this person will do

what is really, really needed! By the way, mine were put in under the

muscle, and I had a total capsulectomy (en bloc) removal. It took

about 4 hours with a lift, so if the doctor knows what they are doing,

they will get it all.

Hugs,

Patty

>

> I met with PS this morning to discuss my getting explanted. I have

> saline implants and they use a needle to drain the implant. Then

they

> remove the implant shell. They also tend to do as much as possible

> with removing the capsule, but said that due to the implant being

> under the muscle and the lung wall it is only so much. They also

put

> in drains. Any thoughts?

>

> Thanks!!

>

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Thanks for your reply to my concern. I am really nervous about the

whole procedure. How can I be sure that I will get the whole thing

out? I know there is a consent that you sign prior to suregery.

The surgeon that I talked to to about total removal said at first

that they just do some of the tissue removal. Then after I started

to explain why I wanted the whole thing removed he said fine, but

said I would have a larger scar (I don't care) and said it would

require 30 min more per side. I am concerned though, as he said

that the chest wall/ribs can some times be involved making it

impossible to always get all of the tissue. Is this true? This

whole thing is such a nightmare. Thanks again for all the support!

MK

>

> My thoughts are that you need to be firm in requesting a total

> capsulectomy...the drains are a good idea, but those implants need

to

> be removed properly so that you don't have any reason to be

concerned

> about " leftovers " in the future. Leftover implant scar tissue is

no

> good. Doctors frequently will say they will do their " best " to

get it

> all out, but then state they just couldn't because it was too hard

to

> get at it. This is their " out " . It takes more skill and time to

do a

> proper explant, so make sure your doctor is going to care about

you

> and your health as a patient, not just the money he is going to

get

> for his time. Gosh, I hope that doesn't sound too harsh...I know

> there are kind doctors out there, but just be sure this person

will do

> what is really, really needed! By the way, mine were put in under

the

> muscle, and I had a total capsulectomy (en bloc) removal. It took

> about 4 hours with a lift, so if the doctor knows what they are

doing,

> they will get it all.

> Hugs,

> Patty

>

>

>

> --- In , " mkkinzy1 " <mkkinzy@m...>

wrote:

> >

> > I met with PS this morning to discuss my getting explanted. I

have

> > saline implants and they use a needle to drain the implant.

Then

> they

> > remove the implant shell. They also tend to do as much as

possible

> > with removing the capsule, but said that due to the implant

being

> > under the muscle and the lung wall it is only so much. They

also

> put

> > in drains. Any thoughts?

> >

> > Thanks!!

> >

>

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MK,

I'd suggest writing to Dr. Kolb (one of the ladies

here can give you her email address) and ask her under

what conditions part of the capsule may need to be

left behind.

Also, you can see her website at www.plasticos.com.

Her email address is probably there.

She's been very generous with her time, even if she's

not your doctor. She's one of our most highly

recommended doctors.

As far as dealing with your doctor, you will have to

decide if you trust him to do what he says! . . . Some

doctor's I'd trust, others I wouldn't.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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