Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Thanks. I would agree with you that wearing it next to the skin isn't a great idea in theory, but do you know anyone who has had problems with that or is there anything to show that the silicone can somehow leach into the skin. Do you think the sticky silicone can leach? You are very wise and I respect your opinion and info. Thanks! On Jan 24, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Rogene S wrote: > Laurie, > > As long as the silicone doesn't come in contact with > the skin, they shouldn't cause a problem. . . Wearing > them next to the skin is asking for trouble! > > Patty can recommend a bra with a handy pocket that > holds silicone inserts. > > Hugs, > > Rogene > > > --- Laurie Tolkin <ltolkin@...> wrote: > >> Hi. Do you have any thoughts/information about >> silicone breast >> prosthesis forms and potential health concerns? >> >> Thanks! >> > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 My opinion is that if things like hormone replacement patches are able to deliver medication to our bodies, then other things can be absorbed through our skin as well. Sis > > > >> Hi. Do you have any thoughts/information about > >> silicone breast > >> prosthesis forms and potential health concerns? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > > treatment. > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Laurie, I don't know anyone personally who has had a problem with silicone prostheses . . . BUT ... when I was new to the implant scene I belonged to a support group in Fort Worth. One of the women there said one of her friends told her that she had all the same symptoms as the implant women do. On further discussion, she told her how the silcone became sticky as the prostheses aged. It stuck to her skin where she had a difficult time removing it. It only makes sense that, if a patch can be used to administer medication, that anything in contact with our skin for extended periods has the capability of transfering it's chemicals as well. Something I do wonder about is, how many more chemicals are used in prostheses than in implants since they don't require any kind of FDA oversight at all? Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hi Rogene, Thanks for your response. I didn't realize that prostheses don't require FDA approval, but that does make sense since they aren't ingested. Since I'm a reconstruction patient, if I no longer want to do implants (thanks to you and all of the wonderful women on this list!), then my option is a prosthesis and I obviously don't want to have similar issues. I've seen both the kind that go in the bra pocket and the kind that " stick on " . I'm just curious----what made you start this group? How did you figure out that implants were related to health issues in the beginning? Thanks again for everything! Laurie On Jan 25, 2006, at 7:59 AM, Rogene S wrote: > Laurie, > > I don't know anyone personally who has had a problem > with silicone prostheses . . . BUT ... when I was new > to the implant scene I belonged to a support group in > Fort Worth. One of the women there said one of her > friends told her that she had all the same symptoms as > the implant women do. > > On further discussion, she told her how the silcone > became sticky as the prostheses aged. It stuck to her > skin where she had a difficult time removing it. > > It only makes sense that, if a patch can be used to > administer medication, that anything in contact with > our skin for extended periods has the capability of > transfering it's chemicals as well. > > Something I do wonder about is, how many more > chemicals are used in prostheses than in implants > since they don't require any kind of FDA oversight at > all? > > Hugs, > > Rogene > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hi Patty, I applaud you for your efforts and am very grateful for your kindness in sharing your knowledge. I had been considering implants (for reconstruction), but have changed my mind after doing more research. I guess i'll investigate prostheses, even though those too are made of silicone. It's sad that even the saline implants cause such horrible health issues. Thanks for all of your great information. Laurie On Jan 25, 2006, at 6:35 PM, glory2glory1401 wrote: > Hi Laurie, > It's Patty....I'm not Rogene, but I can answer one of your > questions! I actually started this group back in July of 2000 > because I knew that there were other women out there like me, who > had saline implants, were sick, and needed hope for recovery. If I > had realized anything about my illness, it was that I needed to have > hope, and I needed to have that hope bad because the doctors were > not giving me any! I was desperate to get my health back. > > In fact, by that time in July 2000, I had become quite fed up with > the ignorance of doctors, who I once held in very high esteem. I > thought they knew how to fix everything and were honest, kind, > ethical, almost godlike. And I thought I could trust them. But > after my breast implant experience, that false illusion about > doctors was turned on its head, and I realized that I had to become > my own advocate for health if I wanted to get better. > > When I first became ill, I found a newsgroup started by Ilena > Rosenthal. From there I made contact with many other women who had > silicone gel implants for the most part, and started corresponding > with them about their illnesses. (I believe the very first person I > received a letter from was Lynda Coss, who I am very much indebted > to!) It was then that I started getting educated about the very > ugly side of breast implants. Oh, it made me sick to my stomach to > hear of all the suffering, of all the lies and deception, of all the > terrible things that were going on in America and around the world > because of breast implants! So many women were sick and suffering, > even dying! And I had been told that salines were the safe ones! > That turned out to be such a lie for me! By the way, this was in > early 1998. > > For two years, I kept in close contact with Ilena's group, and every > time I saw a letter in which a woman wrote about something she had > tried, or how she had improved, I tried to make private contact. > You see, at that time, there was alot of talk going on about the DOW > lawsuit, and there was alot of politics going on. So, the letters > that talked about healing were interspered with the letters about > lawsuits and I grabbed onto whatever hope I could find within those > letters of healing. I started a little collection of letters about > healing. And what I saw was that the women who were getting better > were staying away from drugs, and were going natural. > > So, that is when I decided it was time to start my own group for > women who had saline implants. I know that alot of women thought > that since they had salines, they were somehow different than the > women who had silicone gels, but I needed to gather us into a group > that could share what we were doing to get better. I didn't want to > focus so much on the politics of breast implants as much as I wanted > to focus on that HOPE of recovery! Because as I said, HOPE was the > one thing that I hung onto for dear life. I needed to know that > there were answers out there! And I wanted to be able to share > those answers with everyone who suffered as I was. > > So, there it is in a nutshell. It is the grassroots movement that > saves so many. It is the power of the people to find the answers to > life, healing, health and happiness. We can't trust the government > to do it for us. The government doesn't care about anything except > money and keeping the tax dollars coming in and corporations rolling > in bellyfat. It's people, not government that help others. We, the > people! It's you and me! And we can be there for each other, and > that is the beauty of this support group! > Patty > > > > > > > >> >> Hi Rogene, >> >> Thanks for your response. I didn't realize that prostheses don't >> require FDA approval, but that does make sense since they aren't >> ingested. Since I'm a reconstruction patient, if I no longer want > to >> do implants (thanks to you and all of the wonderful women on this >> list!), then my option is a prosthesis and I obviously don't want > to >> have similar issues. I've seen both the kind that go in the bra >> pocket and the kind that " stick on " . >> >> I'm just curious----what made you start this group? How did you >> figure out that implants were related to health issues in the > beginning? >> >> Thanks again for everything! >> >> Laurie >> >> > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I too would not have made the connection so easily---therefore, I appreciate having the benefit of your wisdom. I wish you the best of luck on your journey fighting your recent news. Best of luck!!!!!!! Laurie On Jan 25, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Rogene S wrote: > Hi Laurie, > > I'm relieved to hear you will be spared the implant > experience. Actually, breast cancer women are the > poorest risk for implants . . . But not according to > the doctor I spoke to today! Ugh! He needs to meet the > women we've seen! > > Patty has answered your question about the group . . . > > > I'm one of the oldies . . . I got my silicone gel > implants in 1978 - started getting sick within months, > but didn't make the connection until the publicity the > law suits got in the early 1990's. > > Even then, I didn't make the connection. A law firm > advertised, I responded. I received a thick packet > that my silicone brain didn't want to digest. I sat it > aside for months. When I was cleaning out stuff, I > started to throw it away, but decided to read it since > they were good enough to send it to me. I can't tell > you how shocked I was when I saw they were describing > ME! > > I got involved with support groups in Dallas and Fort > Worth . . then with Ilena's newsgroup. . . I came to > Patty's group because her group is focused on healing. > I've seen hundreds, if not over 1000 of women come > here sick and find their way back to health! Far too > many to be a coincidence! > > I've started a group for the families of children > affected by their mother's breast implants - either > via pregnancy or nursing. The group 's > SiliconeKids, is very small and not very talkative. > Since starting it, I've learned the children's issues > are far worse than parents will discuss publically. > Very few parents have made the connection! The entire > issue is criminal. I read one article online just this > evening that said that breast-feeding with implants is > safe! > > Hugs, > > Rogene > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hi Laurie, It's Patty....I'm not Rogene, but I can answer one of your questions! I actually started this group back in July of 2000 because I knew that there were other women out there like me, who had saline implants, were sick, and needed hope for recovery. If I had realized anything about my illness, it was that I needed to have hope, and I needed to have that hope bad because the doctors were not giving me any! I was desperate to get my health back. In fact, by that time in July 2000, I had become quite fed up with the ignorance of doctors, who I once held in very high esteem. I thought they knew how to fix everything and were honest, kind, ethical, almost godlike. And I thought I could trust them. But after my breast implant experience, that false illusion about doctors was turned on its head, and I realized that I had to become my own advocate for health if I wanted to get better. When I first became ill, I found a newsgroup started by Ilena Rosenthal. From there I made contact with many other women who had silicone gel implants for the most part, and started corresponding with them about their illnesses. (I believe the very first person I received a letter from was Lynda Coss, who I am very much indebted to!) It was then that I started getting educated about the very ugly side of breast implants. Oh, it made me sick to my stomach to hear of all the suffering, of all the lies and deception, of all the terrible things that were going on in America and around the world because of breast implants! So many women were sick and suffering, even dying! And I had been told that salines were the safe ones! That turned out to be such a lie for me! By the way, this was in early 1998. For two years, I kept in close contact with Ilena's group, and every time I saw a letter in which a woman wrote about something she had tried, or how she had improved, I tried to make private contact. You see, at that time, there was alot of talk going on about the DOW lawsuit, and there was alot of politics going on. So, the letters that talked about healing were interspered with the letters about lawsuits and I grabbed onto whatever hope I could find within those letters of healing. I started a little collection of letters about healing. And what I saw was that the women who were getting better were staying away from drugs, and were going natural. So, that is when I decided it was time to start my own group for women who had saline implants. I know that alot of women thought that since they had salines, they were somehow different than the women who had silicone gels, but I needed to gather us into a group that could share what we were doing to get better. I didn't want to focus so much on the politics of breast implants as much as I wanted to focus on that HOPE of recovery! Because as I said, HOPE was the one thing that I hung onto for dear life. I needed to know that there were answers out there! And I wanted to be able to share those answers with everyone who suffered as I was. So, there it is in a nutshell. It is the grassroots movement that saves so many. It is the power of the people to find the answers to life, healing, health and happiness. We can't trust the government to do it for us. The government doesn't care about anything except money and keeping the tax dollars coming in and corporations rolling in bellyfat. It's people, not government that help others. We, the people! It's you and me! And we can be there for each other, and that is the beauty of this support group! Patty --- In , Laurie Tolkin <ltolkin@c...> wrote: > > Hi Rogene, > > Thanks for your response. I didn't realize that prostheses don't > require FDA approval, but that does make sense since they aren't > ingested. Since I'm a reconstruction patient, if I no longer want to > do implants (thanks to you and all of the wonderful women on this > list!), then my option is a prosthesis and I obviously don't want to > have similar issues. I've seen both the kind that go in the bra > pocket and the kind that " stick on " . > > I'm just curious----what made you start this group? How did you > figure out that implants were related to health issues in the beginning? > > Thanks again for everything! > > Laurie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hi Laurie, I'm relieved to hear you will be spared the implant experience. Actually, breast cancer women are the poorest risk for implants . . . But not according to the doctor I spoke to today! Ugh! He needs to meet the women we've seen! Patty has answered your question about the group . . . I'm one of the oldies . . . I got my silicone gel implants in 1978 - started getting sick within months, but didn't make the connection until the publicity the law suits got in the early 1990's. Even then, I didn't make the connection. A law firm advertised, I responded. I received a thick packet that my silicone brain didn't want to digest. I sat it aside for months. When I was cleaning out stuff, I started to throw it away, but decided to read it since they were good enough to send it to me. I can't tell you how shocked I was when I saw they were describing ME! I got involved with support groups in Dallas and Fort Worth . . then with Ilena's newsgroup. . . I came to Patty's group because her group is focused on healing. I've seen hundreds, if not over 1000 of women come here sick and find their way back to health! Far too many to be a coincidence! I've started a group for the families of children affected by their mother's breast implants - either via pregnancy or nursing. The group 's SiliconeKids, is very small and not very talkative. Since starting it, I've learned the children's issues are far worse than parents will discuss publically. Very few parents have made the connection! The entire issue is criminal. I read one article online just this evening that said that breast-feeding with implants is safe! Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Thank you Laurie, Please pass the info about implants/prostheses along to your friends, family and doctors! Don't expect the doctors to listen . . . but if they hear the same thing from enough women, it will begin to make sense! Despite the AMA! Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Ballerina ~ Girl, I am so excited for you ! ! I just wanna hug you ! ! so, here it is.....( ) HUG ! ! This is wonderful news ! ! absolutely wonderful ! You have made some great changes, and added some good nutrients, and rid yourself of some metals that are bad for you, and wallah ! A new woman emerges ! ! Have you done any drawing yet for designs for real women of all sizes and shapes ? You are a real inspiration ! I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving ! Hugs N Hope N Blessings ~ DedeCheck out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 I recently stopped wearing bras with silicone in them- to take The Dede Challenge (she challenged me to be happy with myself for 10 days)- and I am not kidding you, I have reduced breast pain! I usually get shooting and burning pains in my breasts- mostly my right one. I haven't had them in days. Here is what all I changed:1. Started drinking organic milk, eating organic cream cheese, and organic ice cream (and avoiding non-organic dairy to get away from hormones & pesticides)2. Went to a size 34 rather than 32 bra band3. Went to wireless rather than wired bra4. Stopped wearing silicone in my bra5. Started doing daily lymphatic massageI cannot believe the difference!!! I noticed a reduction in pain almost immediately, but now I realize I haven't felt the pain for the last couple of days. It's only been two weeks today that I've made those changes. Amazing.Also, as you know, I got some leaking mercury fillings replaced with the white stuff. (4 in the past 2 weeks) silicone prostheses If you use silicone prostheses, be sure to put them in fabric pockets. . . As they age, they break down. Just like implants. . . That sticky stuff is evidence of breaking down. . . Women can develop the same health problems from prostheses as implants. . . . The skin absorbs the garbage. Rogene Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Wonderful Ballerina, I'm so glad you're seeing positive results so quickly! . . . .. . . And, you know what? . . . When you start feeling better, you'll have a glow that will be a lot more appealing than big boobs! Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 What a great challenge, Ballerina...Dede comes up with such great ideas. It's amazing how such simple changes can create such important and lifelong effects. You've added so much to this forum by expressing your feelings and thoughts...some of the very same thoughts we've all had in wanting implants. Now we all know better!! I no longer have regret, as it is what it is. But, seriously, count your lucky stars that you opted out of surgery! Take care and continue to keep us updated. Love, PH > > I recently stopped wearing bras with silicone in them- to take The Dede Challenge (she challenged me to be happy with myself for 10 days)- and I am not kidding you, I have reduced breast pain! I usually get shooting and burning pains in my breasts- mostly my right one. I haven't had them in days. Here is what all I changed: > 1. Started drinking organic milk, eating organic cream cheese, and organic ice cream (and avoiding non-organic dairy to get away from hormones & pesticides) > 2. Went to a size 34 rather than 32 bra band > 3. Went to wireless rather than wired bra > 4. Stopped wearing silicone in my bra > 5. Started doing daily lymphatic massage > > I cannot believe the difference!!! I noticed a reduction in pain almost immediately, but now I realize I haven't felt the pain for the last couple of days. It's only been two weeks today that I've made those changes. Amazing. > > Also, as you know, I got some leaking mercury fillings replaced with the white stuff. (4 in the past 2 weeks) > > silicone prostheses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you use silicone prostheses, be sure to put them in fabric pockets. . . > > > > As they age, they break down. Just like implants. . . That sticky stuff is evidence of breaking down. . . Women can develop the same health problems from prostheses as implants. . . . 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Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Ballerina,I am sooooo proud of you! You are an inspiration and it's absolutely wonderful to see you doing so well. This is awesome news!Keep up the good work.Big hugs,TraciBallerina Breastaug <ballerinabreastaug@...> wrote: I recently stopped wearing bras with silicone in them- to take The Dede Challenge (she challenged me to be happy with myself for 10 days)- and I am not kidding you, I have reduced breast pain! I usually get shooting and burning pains in my breasts- mostly my right one. I haven't had them in days. Here is what all I changed:1. Started drinking organic milk, eating organic cream cheese, and organic ice cream (and avoiding non-organic dairy to get away from hormones & pesticides)2. Went to a size 34 rather than 32 bra band3. Went to wireless rather than wired bra4. Stopped wearing silicone in my bra5. Started doing daily lymphatic massageI cannot believe the difference!!! I noticed a reduction in pain almost immediately, but now I realize I haven't felt the pain for the last couple of days. It's only been two weeks today that I've made those changes. Amazing.Also, as you know, I got some leaking mercury fillings replaced with the white stuff. (4 in the past 2 weeks) silicone prostheses If you use silicone prostheses, be sure to put them in fabric pockets. . . As they age, they break down. Just like implants. . . That sticky stuff is evidence of breaking down. . . Women can develop the same health problems from prostheses as implants. . . . The skin absorbs the garbage. Rogene Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Dede-I'M an inspiration??!! You are! Thanks for all your help on here & not kicking me off the board for being a blubbering pre-BA whiner, too desperate for boobs to see the truth before my eyes. I'm still mourning the bazooms I'll never have, and trying to accept these microscopic blobs that I'd already written off. I'm trying to reacquaint myself with them as "My Very Own Favorite Pair to Have in the Entire Universe!". I'm not quite feeling the enthusiasm yet, but I'm trying to.Have you worn the 's Secret Very Sexy Wireless yet? It's still fairly new. It's the one I've been wearing during The Dede Challenge to love myself & it's been wonderful. I normally ban 's Secret since they often don't offer their products in the 32 bands. In fact, this wireless Very Sexy thing is not offered in a 32 band, but I swallowed (and choked on) my near-cult-like attitude against 34's (and 's Secret in general) & bought one. So maybe the band rides up my back and I feel like a traitor against my own bra religion... but it's comfortable! A bra that is comfortable in the wrong size must be fairly fabulous. And I look good enough to go out in public. (a feature not offered by any other wireless bra I've encountered). I never thought I'd recommend a VS bra, but I think that I have to give them credit for this one. Maybe the fact that VS forces me into a 34 with this thing is actually even helping to reduce the shooting, stabbing, burning breast pains that I had gotten so used to.I've thought about fashion designs for the slender of chest, but haven't drawn any yet. Now's a great time, since it's the weekend. I'm picturing clothes that are billowy around the chest area rather than laying flat against the chest & stomach, which show all the contours (or lack thereof!). Happy holidays, from snowy Michigan,Ballerina Re: silicone prostheses Ballerina ~ Girl, I am so excited for you ! ! I just wanna hug you ! ! so, here it is.....( ) HUG ! ! This is wonderful news ! ! absolutely wonderful ! You have made some great changes, and added some good nutrients, and rid yourself of some metals that are bad for you, and wallah ! A new woman emerges ! ! Have you done any drawing yet for designs for real women of all sizes and shapes ? You are a real inspiration ! I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving ! Hugs N Hope N Blessings ~ DedeCheck out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Oh Ballerina,You are not a blubbering pre-BA whiner. You are an intelligent Woman who came to the board to do research and became part of the Sisterhood.Ask all the questions you want. That's what we are here for.Hugs,TraciBallerina Breastaug <ballerinabreastaug@...> wrote: Dede-I'M an inspiration??!! You are! Thanks for all your help on here & not kicking me off the board for being a blubbering pre-BA whiner, too desperate for boobs to see the truth before my eyes. I'm still mourning the bazooms I'll never have, and trying to accept these microscopic blobs that I'd already written off. I'm trying to reacquaint myself with them as "My Very Own Favorite Pair to Have in the Entire Universe!". I'm not quite feeling the enthusiasm yet, but I'm trying to.Have you worn the 's Secret Very Sexy Wireless yet? It's still fairly new. It's the one I've been wearing during The Dede Challenge to love myself & it's been wonderful. I normally ban 's Secret since they often don't offer their products in the 32 bands. In fact, this wireless Very Sexy thing is not offered in a 32 band, but I swallowed (and choked on) my near-cult-like attitude against 34's (and 's Secret in general) & bought one. So maybe the band rides up my back and I feel like a traitor against my own bra religion... but it's comfortable! A bra that is comfortable in the wrong size must be fairly fabulous. And I look good enough to go out in public. (a feature not offered by any other wireless bra I've encountered). I never thought I'd recommend a VS bra, but I think that I have to give them credit for this one. Maybe the fact that VS forces me into a 34 with this thing is actually even helping to reduce the shooting, stabbing, burning breast pains that I had gotten so used to.I've thought about fashion designs for the slender of chest, but haven't drawn any yet. Now's a great time, since it's the weekend. I'm picturing clothes that are billowy around the chest area rather than laying flat against the chest & stomach, which show all the contours (or lack thereof!). Happy holidays, from snowy Michigan,Ballerina Re: silicone prostheses Ballerina ~ Girl, I am so excited for you ! ! I just wanna hug you ! ! so, here it is.....( ) HUG ! ! This is wonderful news ! ! absolutely wonderful ! You have made some great changes, and added some good nutrients, and rid yourself of some metals that are bad for you, and wallah ! A new woman emerges ! ! Have you done any drawing yet for designs for real women of all sizes and shapes ? You are a real inspiration ! I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving ! Hugs N Hope N Blessings ~ DedeCheck out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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