Fwd: Support Group Greetings ... February 8, 2006

[Guest guest]

Note: the address to write to is michael@... See the last letter in this group message. Patty Note: forwarded message attached.

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Dearest Friends,

There are several women in our support group who are having a very difficult time. As I've heard for over 10 years ... they are not able to find answers to their many health challenges. Today I had a most usual ... and unusal conversation with a lovely woman. She described all the same symptoms so many of you share. What was astounding, however, was that her cadiologist had suggested that her cardiac problems (she is only 37 and was a totally healthy woman prior to saline implants 3 years ago) could be related to her implants! Bravo to that doctor.

Another friend shared recently that her 28 year old implants had ruptured ... and the doctor spent 4 hours sawing off scar tissue from her ribcage etc. This PS said all implants must be changed every 10 years ... but implied that by doing so ... that was enough to protect a woman's health.

Please check our website for up to date news. I highly recommend everyone read Dr. Zuckerman et al's "Decisions in the Dark" ...

www. BreastImplantAwareness.org#Dark

There is also a link to a new Petition requesting the acting FDA director not approve Mentor's implants while the criminal investigation continues. Please add your voice.

There are some very important support requests below ... thank all of you who can reach out each other.

With love to all,

Ilena

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

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From : Litchfield <dlitchfield@...> Sent : Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:20 PM Subject : implants Return-Path: dlitchfield@... I read your article on Mercola. How would I find a good, understanding and knowledgeable doctor to remove my implants? I do have MS. However, I have heard that implants don't cause MS....just MS related symptoms. Thanks,Karin

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<Sandizstudio@...> Sent : Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:57 PM To : ilena2000@... Subject : do you know surgeons

do you have a source of references who are capable of removali live in houston,tx our med.ctr. should have someone...i am so sick i cant bear explaining this again and i feel my time is of the essence

Please read

Ilena

I wanted you to know that my father died Sunday. I'm having difficulty handling it. The viewing is Wednesday 2-4 and 7-9. the funeral is Thursday at 9am...The funeral director has 2 other funerals so we had to hold him over for the viewing on Wed..

If you'd like to tell the rest of the ladies in the group, please do so, I'll let it up to your discretion.

I'm not doing well, and I hope I make it through this because I was very close to my father. I know he's at peace now and not suffering anymore. I think the govt should do something to help these people with alzheimer's, dementia.

Thanks

Barbara

bdg148@...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/26/fashion/thursdaystyles/26skin.html?_r=2 & oref=slogin & pagewanted=print

January 26, 2006

Skin Deep

Injecting Silicone, and Risk

By NATASHA SINGER

OVER the last two years, three women with strange skin conditions have sought help from Dr. A. C. Kane, a plastic surgeon in New York City. One had bumps the size of capers bulging from her lips. One's forehead was red with inflammation. And a third had ridges that looked to Dr. Kane like worms nestled below her eye sockets.

All of these problems had been caused by injections of liquid silicone, one of the most controversial substances in cosmetic medicine. Long used without official sanction and then banned by the Food and Drug Administration, liquid silicone was finally approved for medical use in 1997: to hold detached retinas in place. And it has been gradually regaining popularity, as doctors use it off-label to fill wrinkles, furrows and acne scars or add volume to lips and cheeks.

These doctors say they like silicone because it is less expensive than fillers like collagen and Restylane (a gel made of hyaluronic acid), it is easy to work with, and side effects occur in less than 1 percent of patients. But most of all they like silicone because it is permanent. Collagen and Restylane last up to six months, so patients must be injected over and over again. With silicone, once a wrinkle or furrow is flattened, it stays that way.

But that means that the side effects, though rare, are permanent too. The lumps and ridges can be surgically removed, but doing so can leave scars that look worse than the original protrusions, Dr. Kane said. "The small percentage of people who have reactions look so bad that it makes using silicone not worth the risk," he said. "If, God forbid, silicone becomes widespread and every doctor starts injecting it, it will become a disaster."

Critics of silicone say that because clinical trials have not demonstrated its safety as a permanent cosmetic filler, it is too risky to use for that purpose.

"Silicone is a time bomb," said Dr. Marvin J. Rapaport, a dermatologist in Beverly Hills, Calif., who has collected case reports on 80 patients who have had side effects from silicone shots since 1974. One of these patients had 50 inflamed nodules at injection sites on her face, and she needed injections of steroids several times a year to reduce the swelling, he said. "Delayed reactions to silicone can happen 1 to 25 years after treatment," he said. "You can't predict who is going to react or when."

Silicone has been used in the body since just after World War II, when doctors in Japan and Las Vegas began injecting it to enlarge women's breasts. Initially they used the industrial kind of silicone that goes into making furniture polish and transformer fluid. Complications like cysts, sores and painful hardening of the breasts were in some cases so severe that women needed mastectomies. Three women died when silicone obstructed their blood vessels and lungs. In the 1960's the breast injections fell out of favor.

In the 1950's Dr. Norman Orentreich, a dermatologist in New York City, pioneered the use of tiny amounts of silicone to fill facial wrinkles. These injections became popular with celebrities like Helen Gurley Brown, the editor of Cosmopolitan. In 1992, however, the F.D.A. ordered a number of prominent doctors to stop using liquid silicone in the face. At the time the agency's commissioner, Dr. A. Kessler, warned that "people who undergo these injections are exposing themselves to unknown, potentially dangerous risks."

Then in 1997 the agency approved a purified form of liquid silicone called Silikon 1000 for correcting detached retinas. Because a material that is approved for one medical purpose can legally be used off-label for another, some dermatologists picked up the silicone syringe again.

Liquid silicone, also known as silicone oil, has the consistency of motor oil. When injected into the skin, it causes the body to surround the foreign material with collagen. The new collagen, in turn, bulks up the skin.

Doctors use the so-called "microdroplet technique," which calls for only one- to two-tenths of a teaspoon of silicone per treatment. It is injected droplet by droplet into lips, acne scars, hollow cheeks, sunken chins or furrows like the nasolabial folds that descend from the nostrils to the outer corners of the lips. Each treatment costs $500 to $800. And several treatments may be needed before the collagen builds up enough for effects to show, dermatologists say.

Temporary wrinkle fillers like collagen and Restylane are made of organic materials that eventually break down. But silicone is inorganic; once put in the skin, it stays there. And that makes it more convenient.

Arlene Louis, 61, of Fort Lee, N.J., tried both fat and Restylane injections in the two deep folds called marionette lines that ran from the corners of her mouth down to her chin. But the injections did not fully erase her lines, and she didn't like the prospect of repeating them. So five years ago she went to Dr. Rhoda S. Narins, a dermatologist in New York City, for a series of eight monthly silicone treatments.

"My puppet lines are gone. I look 10 years younger," Ms. Louis said earlier this month when she returned to Dr. Narins's office for silicone injections in her cheeks.

Before Dr. Narins gives silicone shots, she has patients sign a consent form that describes the possible side effects. Permanent lumps or inflamed nodules in the skin, intermittent swelling at the injection sites, and permanent red or brown patches can occur years after treatment. But Dr. Narins said that among the several hundred patients she has treated with silicone since 1998, she has never seen a problem.

"Most of the side effects you hear about are caused by nonphysicians injecting an impure substance in nonmedical settings," like spas and hotel rooms, Dr. Narins said. When it is administered correctly, she said, "silicone is a superior product that gives you fabulous results."

But Dr. M. Duffy, a dermatologist in Torrance, Calif., has found that liquid silicone can cause problems even when administered by a master injector. He said he has treated about 4,000 patients with silicone in the last 22 years, and he has seen one serious complication (a patient's face became extremely swollen and purple from inflammation) as well as some "lumps and bumps that are a nuisance."

"In good hands the ballpark complication rate could be 4 in 1,000" patients, Dr. Duffy said. "In bad hands there are horror stories."

, a country-western singer in Toronto, said she has a line of bumps from silicone injections that look "like tiny rice grains" running along her forehead. She also has a walnut-size bump between her eyebrows and a raised line along her top lip, she said.

"I paid money to a professional to improve my looks," Ms. said. "But instead I got disfigured as if I'd been in a car accident."

Ms. is one of 450 patients participating in a class action suit against Dr. Sheldon V. Pollack, a Toronto dermatologist who injected them with silicone. The complaint alleges that Dr. Pollack failed to inform them that Canada's health department prohibits the cosmetic use of injectable silicone, according to J. Adam Dewar, a lawyer for the plaintiffs. About 75 of the patients have cosmetic problems including lumps and raised lines on their faces, Mr. Dewar said.

Lawrence E. Thacker, a lawyer representing Dr. Pollack, did not return calls seeking comment.

Even if no direct side effects occur, the silicone can migrate inside the face. "Gravity changes your face over time, and the filler does not end up in the place you started," said Dr. Arnold W. Klein, a dermatologist in Beverly Hills.

But other doctors are learning to like silicone. Dr. S. Dover, a dermatologist in Chestnut Hill, Mass., first tried the injections as part of a clinical trial. From 2002 to 2004 his practice treated eight volunteers with a new kind of liquid silicone called SilSkin. Each patient had silicone injections in one nasolabial fold and collagen injections in the other. Eighteen months later all the volunteers preferred the silicone, he said.

Dr. Dover found it so "spectacular" for both deep furrows and acne scars that he has started injecting liquid silicone occasionally in his own patients. Still he worries that injectable silicone may prove to be the Russian roulette of cosmetic dermatology. "You do wonder," he said, "whether this is the patient who is going to come back in 10 or 15 years asking you, 'What are these bumps in my face where you injected the silicone?' "

Abelson, "Whistle-Blower Suit Says Device Maker Generously Rewards Doctors", The Ledger, January 24, 2006, Link: Whistle-Blower Suit Says Device Maker Generously Rewards Doctors

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060124/ZNYT01/601240399 & SearchID=73235075322189

By REED ABELSONNew York Times

A prominent surgeon in Wisconsin was paid $400,000 a year by Medtronic for a consulting contract requiring him to work just eight days. Another doctor in Virginia received nearly $700,000 in consulting fees from Medtronic for the first nine months of 2005.

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Jordan to go under the knife

http://www.channel4.com/news/content/news-storypage.jsp?id=1323349Busty glamour model Jordan is planning to have a breast reduction. The wife of Andre originally postponed her decision to go under the knife but now she hopes to go ahead and auction her silicone implants on eBay. Jordan revealed her decision at the signing of her latest book A Whole New World.

She said: "I was supposed to have one (a breast reduction) in December but somebody called the papers so I phoned up the surgery and said, 'I'm not having it done with you because someone spoke'. "I would sell them on eBay. I'd be stupid not to." The glamour model also confirmed that her agent is in talks with the makers of the new Bond film and she could get a cameo role.

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Ilena,

Perhaps you can post this to the group..

Thanks,

nne

Friends,How would you like to be in my next movie? I know you've probably heard I'mmaking a documentary about the health care industry (but the HMOs don't knowthis, so don't tell them -- they think I'm making a romantic comedy).If you've followed my work over the years, you know that I keep a pretty lowprofile while I'm making my movies. I don't give interviews, I don't go on TVand I don't defrost my refrigerator. I do keep my website updated on a dailybasis (there's been something like 4,000,000 visitors just this week alone)and the rest of the time I'm... well, I can't tell you what I'm doing, butyou can pretty much guess. It gets harder and harder sneaking into corporateheadquarters, but I've found that just dying my hair black and wearing a skortreally helps.Back to my invitation to be in my movie. Have you ever found yourself gettingready to file for bankruptcy because you can't pay your kid's hospital bill,and then you say to yourself, "Boy, I sure would like to be in 's health care movie!"?Or, after being turned down for the third time by your HMO for an operationthey should be paying for, do you ever think to yourself, "Now THIS travestyshould be in that 'Sicko' movie!"?Or maybe you've just been told that your father is going to have to just,well, die because he can't afford the drugs he needs to get better -- and it'sthen that you say, "Damn, what did I do with 's home number?!"OK, here's your chance. As you can imagine, we've got the goods on thesecrooks. All we need now is to put a few of you in the movie and let the worldsee what the greatest country ever in the history of the universe does to itsown people, simply because they have the misfortune of getting sick. Becausegetting sick, unless you are rich, is a crime -- a crime for which you mustpay, sometimes with your own life.About four hundred years from now, historians will look back at us like wewere some sort of barbarians, but for now we're just the laughing stock of theWestern world.So, if you'd like me to know what you've been through with your insurancecompany, or what it's been like to have no insurance at all, or how thehospitals and doctors wouldn't treat you (or if they did, how they sent you intopoverty trying to pay their crazy bills) ...if you have been abused in any wayby this sick, greedy, grubby system and it has caused you or your loved onesgreat sorrow and pain, let me know.Send me a short, factual account of what has happened to you -- and what IShappening to you right now if you have been unable to get the health care youneed. Send it to _michael@..._ (mailto:michael@...). I will read every single one of them (even if I can't respond to or helpeveryone, I will be able to bring to light a few of your stories).Thank you in advance for sharing them with me and trusting me to try and dosomething about a very corrupt system that simply has to go.Oh, and if you happen to work for an HMO or a pharmaceutical company or aprofit-making hospital and you have simply seen too much abuse of your fellowhuman beings and can't take it any longer -- and you would like the truth to betold -- please write me at _michael@..._(mailto:michael@...) . I will protect your privacy and I will tellthe world what youare unable to tell. I am looking for a few heroes with a conscience. I knowyou are out there.Thank you, all of you, for your help and your continued support through theyears. I promise you that with "Sicko" we will do our best to give you notonly a great movie, but a chance to bring down this evil empire, once and forall.In the meantime, stay well. I hear fruits and vegetables help.Yours, _michael@..._ (mailto:michael@...)_www.michaelmoore.com_ (www.michaelmoore.com/)

nne

webizen@...

[Guest guest]

Oh, and the correct link to his website is:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=193

>

> Note: the address to write to is

michael@... . Patty

>>

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------

> Friends,

> How would you like to be in my next movie? I know you've probably

heard I'm

> making a documentary about the health care industry (but the HMOs

don't know

> this, so don't tell them -- they think I'm making a romantic

comedy).

> If you've followed my work over the years, you know that I keep a

pretty low

> profile while I'm making my movies. I don't give interviews, I

don't go on TV

> and I don't defrost my refrigerator. I do keep my website updated

on a daily

> basis (there's been something like 4,000,000 visitors just this

week alone)

> and the rest of the time I'm... well, I can't tell you what I'm

doing, but

> you can pretty much guess. It gets harder and harder sneaking into

corporate

> headquarters, but I've found that just dying my hair black and

wearing a skort

> really helps.

> Back to my invitation to be in my movie. Have you ever found

yourself getting

> ready to file for bankruptcy because you can't pay your kid's

hospital bill,

> and then you say to yourself, " Boy, I sure would like to be in

> 's health care movie! " ?

> Or, after being turned down for the third time by your HMO for an

operation

> they should be paying for, do you ever think to yourself, " Now

THIS travesty

> should be in that 'Sicko' movie! " ?

> Or maybe you've just been told that your father is going to have

to just,

> well, die because he can't afford the drugs he needs to get

better -- and it's

> then that you say, " Damn, what did I do with 's home

number?! "

> OK, here's your chance. As you can imagine, we've got the goods on

these

> crooks. All we need now is to put a few of you in the movie and

let the world

> see what the greatest country ever in the history of the universe

does to its

> own people, simply because they have the misfortune of getting

sick. Because

> getting sick, unless you are rich, is a crime -- a crime for which

you must

> pay, sometimes with your own life.

> About four hundred years from now, historians will look back at us

like we

> were some sort of barbarians, but for now we're just the laughing

stock of the

> Western world.

> So, if you'd like me to know what you've been through with your

insurance

> company, or what it's been like to have no insurance at all, or

how the

> hospitals and doctors wouldn't treat you (or if they did, how they

sent you into

> poverty trying to pay their crazy bills) ...if you have been

abused in any way

> by this sick, greedy, grubby system and it has caused you or your

loved ones

> great sorrow and pain, let me know.

> Send me a short, factual account of what has happened to you --

and what IS

> happening to you right now if you have been unable to get the

health care you

> need. Send it to _michael@_ (mailto:michael@)

> . I will read every single one of them (even if I can't respond to

or help

> everyone, I will be able to bring to light a few of your stories).

> Thank you in advance for sharing them with me and trusting me to

try and do

> something about a very corrupt system that simply has to go.

> Oh, and if you happen to work for an HMO or a pharmaceutical

company or a

> profit-making hospital and you have simply seen too much abuse of

your fellow

> human beings and can't take it any longer -- and you would like

the truth to be

> told -- please write me at _michael@_

> (mailto:michael@) . I will protect your privacy and I will tell

> the world what you

> are unable to tell. I am looking for a few heroes with a

conscience. I know

> you are out there.

> Thank you, all of you, for your help and your continued support

through the

> years. I promise you that with " Sicko " we will do our best to give

you not

> only a great movie, but a chance to bring down this evil empire,

once and for

> all.

> In the meantime, stay well. I hear fruits and vegetables help.

> Yours,

>

> _michael@_ (mailto:michael@)

> _www.michaelmoore.com_ (www.michaelmoore.com)

>

[Guest guest]

I realize we live in a corrupt world, but I think only

adds fuel to the fire. I think there are better ways to get our

message out - would only damage our credibility and

turn too many people off. Just my opinion.

Cherie

> >

> > Note: the address to write to is

> michael@... . Patty

> >>

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------

--

> -------------

> > Friends,

> > How would you like to be in my next movie? I know you've

probably

> heard I'm

> > making a documentary about the health care industry (but the

HMOs

> don't know

> > this, so don't tell them -- they think I'm making a romantic

> comedy).

> > If you've followed my work over the years, you know that I keep

a

> pretty low

> > profile while I'm making my movies. I don't give interviews, I

> don't go on TV

> > and I don't defrost my refrigerator. I do keep my website

updated

> on a daily

> > basis (there's been something like 4,000,000 visitors just this

> week alone)

> > and the rest of the time I'm... well, I can't tell you what I'm

> doing, but

> > you can pretty much guess. It gets harder and harder sneaking

into

> corporate

> > headquarters, but I've found that just dying my hair black and

> wearing a skort

> > really helps.

> > Back to my invitation to be in my movie. Have you ever found

> yourself getting

> > ready to file for bankruptcy because you can't pay your kid's

> hospital bill,

> > and then you say to yourself, " Boy, I sure would like to be in

>

> > 's health care movie! " ?

> > Or, after being turned down for the third time by your HMO for

an

> operation

> > they should be paying for, do you ever think to yourself, " Now

> THIS travesty

> > should be in that 'Sicko' movie! " ?

> > Or maybe you've just been told that your father is going to have

> to just,

> > well, die because he can't afford the drugs he needs to get

> better -- and it's

> > then that you say, " Damn, what did I do with 's

home

> number?! "

> > OK, here's your chance. As you can imagine, we've got the goods

on

> these

> > crooks. All we need now is to put a few of you in the movie and

> let the world

> > see what the greatest country ever in the history of the

universe

> does to its

> > own people, simply because they have the misfortune of getting

> sick. Because

> > getting sick, unless you are rich, is a crime -- a crime for

which

> you must

> > pay, sometimes with your own life.

> > About four hundred years from now, historians will look back at

us

> like we

> > were some sort of barbarians, but for now we're just the

laughing

> stock of the

> > Western world.

> > So, if you'd like me to know what you've been through with your

> insurance

> > company, or what it's been like to have no insurance at all, or

> how the

> > hospitals and doctors wouldn't treat you (or if they did, how

they

> sent you into

> > poverty trying to pay their crazy bills) ...if you have been

> abused in any way

> > by this sick, greedy, grubby system and it has caused you or

your

> loved ones

> > great sorrow and pain, let me know.

> > Send me a short, factual account of what has happened to you --

> and what IS

> > happening to you right now if you have been unable to get the

> health care you

> > need. Send it to _michael@_ (mailto:michael@)

> > . I will read every single one of them (even if I can't respond

to

> or help

> > everyone, I will be able to bring to light a few of your

stories).

> > Thank you in advance for sharing them with me and trusting me to

> try and do

> > something about a very corrupt system that simply has to go.

> > Oh, and if you happen to work for an HMO or a pharmaceutical

> company or a

> > profit-making hospital and you have simply seen too much abuse

of

> your fellow

> > human beings and can't take it any longer -- and you would like

> the truth to be

> > told -- please write me at _michael@_

> > (mailto:michael@) . I will protect your privacy and I will tell

> > the world what you

> > are unable to tell. I am looking for a few heroes with a

> conscience. I know

> > you are out there.

> > Thank you, all of you, for your help and your continued support

> through the

> > years. I promise you that with " Sicko " we will do our best to

give

> you not

> > only a great movie, but a chance to bring down this evil empire,

> once and for

> > all.

> > In the meantime, stay well. I hear fruits and vegetables help.

> > Yours,

> >

> > _michael@_ (mailto:michael@)

> > _www.michaelmoore.com_ (www.michaelmoore.com)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't particularly care for this man myself, but I think if anyone

wants to talk to him about what they've experienced in the medical

world and be involved in his movie, the opportunity is there. I was

just adding more info to what was already posted on Ilena's letter

for those that want to make the contact.

One thing is certain....his movies get noticed.

Patty

> > >

> > > Note: the address to write to is

> > michael@ . Patty

> > >>

> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------

--

> --

> > -------------

> > > Friends,

> > > How would you like to be in my next movie? I know you've

> probably

> > heard I'm

> > > making a documentary about the health care industry (but the

> HMOs

> > don't know

> > > this, so don't tell them -- they think I'm making a romantic

> > comedy).

> > > If you've followed my work over the years, you know that I

keep

> a

> > pretty low

> > > profile while I'm making my movies. I don't give interviews, I

> > don't go on TV

> > > and I don't defrost my refrigerator. I do keep my website

> updated

> > on a daily

> > > basis (there's been something like 4,000,000 visitors just

this

> > week alone)

> > > and the rest of the time I'm... well, I can't tell you what

I'm

> > doing, but

> > > you can pretty much guess. It gets harder and harder sneaking

> into

> > corporate

> > > headquarters, but I've found that just dying my hair black and

> > wearing a skort

> > > really helps.

> > > Back to my invitation to be in my movie. Have you ever found

> > yourself getting

> > > ready to file for bankruptcy because you can't pay your kid's

> > hospital bill,

> > > and then you say to yourself, " Boy, I sure would like to be in

> >

> > > 's health care movie! " ?

> > > Or, after being turned down for the third time by your HMO for

> an

> > operation

> > > they should be paying for, do you ever think to yourself, " Now

> > THIS travesty

> > > should be in that 'Sicko' movie! " ?

> > > Or maybe you've just been told that your father is going to

have

> > to just,

> > > well, die because he can't afford the drugs he needs to get

> > better -- and it's

> > > then that you say, " Damn, what did I do with 's

> home

> > number?! "

> > > OK, here's your chance. As you can imagine, we've got the

goods

> on

> > these

> > > crooks. All we need now is to put a few of you in the movie

and

> > let the world

> > > see what the greatest country ever in the history of the

> universe

> > does to its

> > > own people, simply because they have the misfortune of getting

> > sick. Because

> > > getting sick, unless you are rich, is a crime -- a crime for

> which

> > you must

> > > pay, sometimes with your own life.

> > > About four hundred years from now, historians will look back

at

> us

> > like we

> > > were some sort of barbarians, but for now we're just the

> laughing

> > stock of the

> > > Western world.

> > > So, if you'd like me to know what you've been through with

your

> > insurance

> > > company, or what it's been like to have no insurance at all,

or

> > how the

> > > hospitals and doctors wouldn't treat you (or if they did, how

> they

> > sent you into

> > > poverty trying to pay their crazy bills) ...if you have been

> > abused in any way

> > > by this sick, greedy, grubby system and it has caused you or

> your

> > loved ones

> > > great sorrow and pain, let me know.

> > > Send me a short, factual account of what has happened to you --

> > and what IS

> > > happening to you right now if you have been unable to get the

> > health care you

> > > need. Send it to _michael@_ (mailto:michael@)

> > > . I will read every single one of them (even if I can't

respond

> to

> > or help

> > > everyone, I will be able to bring to light a few of your

> stories).

> > > Thank you in advance for sharing them with me and trusting me

to

> > try and do

> > > something about a very corrupt system that simply has to go.

> > > Oh, and if you happen to work for an HMO or a pharmaceutical

> > company or a

> > > profit-making hospital and you have simply seen too much abuse

> of

> > your fellow

> > > human beings and can't take it any longer -- and you would

like

> > the truth to be

> > > told -- please write me at _michael@_

> > > (mailto:michael@) . I will protect your privacy and I will tell

> > > the world what you

> > > are unable to tell. I am looking for a few heroes with a

> > conscience. I know

> > > you are out there.

> > > Thank you, all of you, for your help and your continued

support

> > through the

> > > years. I promise you that with " Sicko " we will do our best to

> give

> > you not

> > > only a great movie, but a chance to bring down this evil

empire,

> > once and for

> > > all.

> > > In the meantime, stay well. I hear fruits and vegetables help.

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > _michael@_ (mailto:michael@)

> > > _www.michaelmoore.com_ (www.michaelmoore.com)

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, that's what I was thinking as well, his movies get noticed. No

matter what anyone's opinion is of him, his movies get publicity,

and hopefully in our case if he comments on breast implants, it

would at least make a few people think twice about getting them. I

think attacking politics or religion is often controversial, and he

attacked politics - but I think there are alot of people who have

had negative experiences with the medical profession and insurance

companies who might pay attention to what he has to say on that

topic.

Sis

> > > >

> > > > Note: the address to write to is

> > > michael@ . Patty

> > > >>

> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------

--

> --

> > --

> > > -------------

> > > > Friends,

> > > > How would you like to be in my next movie? I know you've

> > probably

> > > heard I'm

> > > > making a documentary about the health care industry (but the

> > HMOs

> > > don't know

> > > > this, so don't tell them -- they think I'm making a romantic

> > > comedy).

> > > > If you've followed my work over the years, you know that I

> keep

> > a

> > > pretty low

> > > > profile while I'm making my movies. I don't give interviews,

I

> > > don't go on TV

> > > > and I don't defrost my refrigerator. I do keep my website

> > updated

> > > on a daily

> > > > basis (there's been something like 4,000,000 visitors just

> this

> > > week alone)

> > > > and the rest of the time I'm... well, I can't tell you what

> I'm

> > > doing, but

> > > > you can pretty much guess. It gets harder and harder

sneaking

> > into

> > > corporate

> > > > headquarters, but I've found that just dying my hair black

and

> > > wearing a skort

> > > > really helps.

> > > > Back to my invitation to be in my movie. Have you ever found

> > > yourself getting

> > > > ready to file for bankruptcy because you can't pay your

kid's

> > > hospital bill,

> > > > and then you say to yourself, " Boy, I sure would like to be

in

> > >

> > > > 's health care movie! " ?

> > > > Or, after being turned down for the third time by your HMO

for

> > an

> > > operation

> > > > they should be paying for, do you ever think to

yourself, " Now

> > > THIS travesty

> > > > should be in that 'Sicko' movie! " ?

> > > > Or maybe you've just been told that your father is going to

> have

> > > to just,

> > > > well, die because he can't afford the drugs he needs to get

> > > better -- and it's

> > > > then that you say, " Damn, what did I do with 's

> > home

> > > number?! "

> > > > OK, here's your chance. As you can imagine, we've got the

> goods

> > on

> > > these

> > > > crooks. All we need now is to put a few of you in the movie

> and

> > > let the world

> > > > see what the greatest country ever in the history of the

> > universe

> > > does to its

> > > > own people, simply because they have the misfortune of

getting

> > > sick. Because

> > > > getting sick, unless you are rich, is a crime -- a crime for

> > which

> > > you must

> > > > pay, sometimes with your own life.

> > > > About four hundred years from now, historians will look back

> at

> > us

> > > like we

> > > > were some sort of barbarians, but for now we're just the

> > laughing

> > > stock of the

> > > > Western world.

> > > > So, if you'd like me to know what you've been through with

> your

> > > insurance

> > > > company, or what it's been like to have no insurance at all,

> or

> > > how the

> > > > hospitals and doctors wouldn't treat you (or if they did,

how

> > they

> > > sent you into

> > > > poverty trying to pay their crazy bills) ...if you have been

> > > abused in any way

> > > > by this sick, greedy, grubby system and it has caused you or

> > your

> > > loved ones

> > > > great sorrow and pain, let me know.

> > > > Send me a short, factual account of what has happened to

you --

>

> > > and what IS

> > > > happening to you right now if you have been unable to get

the

> > > health care you

> > > > need. Send it to _michael@_ (mailto:michael@)

> > > > . I will read every single one of them (even if I can't

> respond

> > to

> > > or help

> > > > everyone, I will be able to bring to light a few of your

> > stories).

> > > > Thank you in advance for sharing them with me and trusting

me

> to

> > > try and do

> > > > something about a very corrupt system that simply has to go.

> > > > Oh, and if you happen to work for an HMO or a pharmaceutical

> > > company or a

> > > > profit-making hospital and you have simply seen too much

abuse

> > of

> > > your fellow

> > > > human beings and can't take it any longer -- and you would

> like

> > > the truth to be

> > > > told -- please write me at _michael@_

> > > > (mailto:michael@) . I will protect your privacy and I will

tell

> > > > the world what you

> > > > are unable to tell. I am looking for a few heroes with a

> > > conscience. I know

> > > > you are out there.

> > > > Thank you, all of you, for your help and your continued

> support

> > > through the

> > > > years. I promise you that with " Sicko " we will do our best

to

> > give

> > > you not

> > > > only a great movie, but a chance to bring down this evil

> empire,

> > > once and for

> > > > all.

> > > > In the meantime, stay well. I hear fruits and vegetables

help.

> > > > Yours,

> > > >

> > > > _michael@_ (mailto:michael@)

> > > > _www.michaelmoore.com_ (www.michaelmoore.com)

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

When I checked 's website the other day, he

claimed 4,000,000 hits! . . . I'm sure he's being

inundated with stories. Even if he's interested in

taking on the implant situation, it may be some time

before anyone hears anything from him.

He definitely is controversial . . . but so are

implants. I can't help but believe that, if he was to

use implants as an example of medical horror, there

would be a huge drop in their sales!

Hugs,

Rogene

--- auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote:

> Yes, that's what I was thinking as well, his movies

> get noticed. No

> matter what anyone's opinion is of him, his movies

> get publicity,

> and hopefully in our case if he comments on breast

> implants, it

> would at least make a few people think twice about

> getting them. I

> think attacking politics or religion is often

> controversial, and he

> attacked politics - but I think there are alot of

> people who have

> had negative experiences with the medical profession

> and insurance

> companies who might pay attention to what he has to

> say on that

> topic.

>

> Sis

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Note: the address to write to

> is

> > > > michael@ . Patty

> > > > >>

> > > > >

>

-------------------------------------------------------------

> --

> > --

> > > --

> > > > -------------

> > > > > Friends,

> > > > > How would you like to be in my next movie? I

> know you've

> > > probably

> > > > heard I'm

> > > > > making a documentary about the health care

> industry (but the

> > > HMOs

> > > > don't know

> > > > > this, so don't tell them -- they think I'm

> making a romantic

> > > > comedy).

> > > > > If you've followed my work over the years,

> you know that I

> > keep

> > > a

> > > > pretty low

> > > > > profile while I'm making my movies. I don't

> give interviews,

> I

> > > > don't go on TV

> > > > > and I don't defrost my refrigerator. I do

> keep my website

> > > updated

> > > > on a daily

> > > > > basis (there's been something like 4,000,000

> visitors just

> > this

> > > > week alone)

> > > > > and the rest of the time I'm... well, I

> can't tell you what

> > I'm

> > > > doing, but

> > > > > you can pretty much guess. It gets harder

> and harder

> sneaking

> > > into

> > > > corporate

> > > > > headquarters, but I've found that just dying

> my hair black

> and

> > > > wearing a skort

> > > > > really helps.

> > > > > Back to my invitation to be in my movie.

> Have you ever found

> > > > yourself getting

> > > > > ready to file for bankruptcy because you

> can't pay your

> kid's

> > > > hospital bill,

> > > > > and then you say to yourself, " Boy, I sure

> would like to be

> in

> > > >

> > > > > 's health care movie! " ?

> > > > > Or, after being turned down for the third

> time by your HMO

> for

> > > an

> > > > operation

> > > > > they should be paying for, do you ever think

> to

> yourself, " Now

> > > > THIS travesty

> > > > > should be in that 'Sicko' movie! " ?

> > > > > Or maybe you've just been told that your

> father is going to

> > have

> > > > to just,

> > > > > well, die because he can't afford the drugs

> he needs to get

> > > > better -- and it's

> > > > > then that you say, " Damn, what did I do with

> 's

> > > home

> > > > number?! "

> > > > > OK, here's your chance. As you can imagine,

> we've got the

> > goods

> > > on

> > > > these

> > > > > crooks. All we need now is to put a few of

> you in the movie

> > and

> > > > let the world

> > > > > see what the greatest country ever in the

> history of the

> > > universe

> > > > does to its

> > > > > own people, simply because they have the

> misfortune of

> getting

> > > > sick. Because

> > > > > getting sick, unless you are rich, is a

> crime -- a crime for

> > > which

> > > > you must

> > > > > pay, sometimes with your own life.

> > > > > About four hundred years from now,

> historians will look back

> > at

> > > us

> > > > like we

> > > > > were some sort of barbarians, but for now

> we're just the

> > > laughing

> > > > stock of the

> > > > > Western world.

> > > > > So, if you'd like me to know what you've

> been through with

> > your

> > > > insurance

> > > > > company, or what it's been like to have no

> insurance at all,

> > or

> > > > how the

> > > > > hospitals and doctors wouldn't treat you (or

> if they did,

> how

> > > they

> > > > sent you into

> > > > > poverty trying to pay their crazy bills)

> ...if you have been

> > > > abused in any way

> > > > > by this sick, greedy, grubby system and it

> has caused you or

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lea,

I really am doing great . . . Lumpectomy is scheduled

for next Thursday . . . Since the lump is so small, it

should be a minor procedure! Thank God for mammograms!

It would have been a long time before I found it!

I'm doing at least four things believed to retard

cancer! . . . Miracle II Neutralizer, no-sugar-very,

very low carb diet, infrared sauna, and a product

designed to remove toxins from the body (patented as a

cancer treatment).

I probably sound crazy, but I fully expect the doctor

to find nothing more than dead cells when he does the

lumpectomy!

We got back from the DFW area this evening . . .

wonderful visit with my mother who turned 93

Wednesday. . . Saw lots of friends and my kids . . .

Very good trip!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

No, Lea, I do not know what this is called. I am sure Dr. Blais can tell you.

Lynda

At 08:03 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote:

>Dearest Rogene:

>

>This all sounds very positive for you. I too have many lumps/cysts in both

>my breasts and no one seems to care. There is only loose skin on my left

>breast because the plastic surgeon did a mastectomy due to a large seroma.

>Thank god we have had these devices removed, or we might not be here today.

>

>I started calling some of the women who were having problems in the nineties

>and one lady told me that she had lost one kidney due to cancer and the

>other one was failing. She said why remove these hard golf balls from my

>chest when I have severe kidney problems! Some women just do not get the

>message. This lady hung up on me. Another lady has a tumour on her pancreas,

>but did not think that it was from her breast implants. Many women have

>brain tumurs, but again they do not want to believe that it is the implants.

>

>When I spoke to Dr. Blais on Wednesday, I told him that a family member had

>died from severe respiratory problems. He told me that there is a way to

>find out if she really did have implants; however, he said that everything

>is coming out soon. This lady literally suffocated and he called it some

>sort of syndrome, he knew of a lady in the US who had died in the same way.

>I wish that I could remember what the syndrome was called, but I have to

>talk to him again and I will write it down this time. Lynda, do you know?

>

>Bless your heart for continuing to help us...love you....Lea

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```

> Re: Re: Fwd: Support Group Greetings ... February

>8, 2006

>

>

> > Thanks Lea,

> >

> > I really am doing great . . . Lumpectomy is scheduled

> > for next Thursday . . . Since the lump is so small, it

> > should be a minor procedure! Thank God for mammograms!

> > It would have been a long time before I found it!

> >

> > I'm doing at least four things believed to retard

> > cancer! . . . Miracle II Neutralizer, no-sugar-very,

> > very low carb diet, infrared sauna, and a product

> > designed to remove toxins from the body (patented as a

> > cancer treatment).

> >

> > I probably sound crazy, but I fully expect the doctor

> > to find nothing more than dead cells when he does the

> > lumpectomy!

> >

> > We got back from the DFW area this evening . . .

> > wonderful visit with my mother who turned 93

> > Wednesday. . . Saw lots of friends and my kids . . .

> > Very good trip!

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> >

>

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