Re: Re: Exercise and immune function - Sis

[Guest guest]

Hi Sis,

Actually exercise knocks the immune system down, because the body has to

heal following exercise. It is after the body heals from exercise that the

immune system is actually stronger. For someone catching viruses very

easily, exercise probably isn't a good thing, until they get their immune

system is stronger. My first ND had a rule that anytime you felt weak or

like something was coming on, not to exercise at all.

Kenda

>

> Good to hear from you. I think the level of soreness probably

> depends on what you had done, and your own body. I was sore for

> about 4 weeks, and then it seemed to get better from there, but I

> still notice some discomfort under my arms and along the side of my

> breasts. I'm 3 months post-op now, and I remember my scars looked

> dark at first, but lately they really seem to be fading and getting

> thinner, and my breasts are looking alot like they looked before

> implants. I've still got some muscle indentation, but not as bad as

> right after explant.

>

> I'm still having sore joints and aches and pains, although some of

> my symptoms went away. I had an MRI done on my neck yesterday,

> because I fell right before Christmas and since then my fingers have

> been going really numb when I wake up in the AM - but my neck is

> fine, so maybe I landed on my hands and don't remember. The doctor

> tested my wrists and they got numb when he hit them with the little

> tool he uses, so he said he thinks the numbness could be carpal

> tunnel. I had numbness before explant, but it was a different kind

> of numbness than this, and since it happened after the fall and

> after explant, I'm thinking the fall jarred something. Luckily

> there are no herniated disks. I'm going to get physical therapy on

> my neck, because it's possible something is pinched slightly but

> doesn't show up on any tests. I'm about to start an exercise

> program, so this is a good place to start. Exercise helps the

> immune system, as long as you don't overdo it - so I'm going to

> start real slow.

>

> Sis

>

>

>>

>> Hi everyone,

>>

>> been so busy with grad school and haven't been feeling well so i

>> haven't been in for a little while. i was supposed to see Dr.kolb

>> yesterday for my 2nd follow-up visit but the weather was so bad

> that we

>> had to turn around and come back. so i go next thursday on the

> 7th.even

>> though it's been 5 wks now since explant, i still feel sore up

> under my

>> brests where the scars are. it feels deeper than the scars so that

> must

>> be where she did the internal lift if she did one. i still feel a

>> little sore and tight too when i raise my arms over my head.is it

>> normal to still be sore after a month or longer? i have finally

> stopped

>> wearing the sports bras or bras of any kind except when

> exercising.i'm

>> going to start using the vitamin e capsules on the scars but how

> often

>> and long do you do that for? the scars look big and dark to me at

> the

>> moment. anyway, other than the soreness, i seem to be doing ok

> except

>> that i'm still getting viruses going around pretty often and that

> makes

>> my joint achiness come back so i'm still having the aching joints,

> eye

>> inflammation and poor memory but other than that,i feel better

> than i

>> did. i'll try to catch up on reading posts tomorrow.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sis . . . You MUST keep moving . . . exercise, as in

aerobics, isn't what I'm talking about. . .

Stretching, walking and staying in motion is

important. Even if it hurts. And, if you haven't been

active, it probably will.

With Fibromyalgia, the less you move, the tighter the

membrane covering your muscle becomes, the more pain

you have - so the less you move. FM can become totally

disabling!

Tired is OK . . . In fact being tired from being

active is a very healthy tired. Your stamina will

build as you continue " exercising " . Don't be afraid of

a little discomfort or fatigue.

One of our currently inactive members has gone from

being unable to do anything (five minutes of walking

was out of the question) to working out strenously 45

minutes daily with weights and the treadmill. She

continues to feel better all the time.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Nah, it just means you need to get your immune system functioning better.

Hang in there, it will happen.

Kenda

>

> Dang Kenda, that means i'd never get to exercise because i'm always

> coming down with whatever is going around and something is always

> going around.

>

>

>

>

>

>>>>

>>>> Hi everyone,

>>>>

>>>> been so busy with grad school and haven't been feeling well so i

>>>> haven't been in for a little while. i was supposed to see Dr.kolb

>>>> yesterday for my 2nd follow-up visit but the weather was so bad

>>> that we

>>>> had to turn around and come back. so i go next thursday on the

>>> 7th.even

>>>> though it's been 5 wks now since explant, i still feel sore up

>>> under my

>>>> brests where the scars are. it feels deeper than the scars so

> that

>>> must

>>>> be where she did the internal lift if she did one. i still feel a

>>>> little sore and tight too when i raise my arms over my head.is it

>>>> normal to still be sore after a month or longer? i have finally

>>> stopped

>>>> wearing the sports bras or bras of any kind except when

>>> exercising.i'm

>>>> going to start using the vitamin e capsules on the scars but how

>>> often

>>>> and long do you do that for? the scars look big and dark to me at

>>> the

>>>> moment. anyway, other than the soreness, i seem to be doing ok

>>> except

>>>> that i'm still getting viruses going around pretty often and that

>>> makes

>>>> my joint achiness come back so i'm still having the aching

> joints,

>>> eye

>>>> inflammation and poor memory but other than that,i feel better

>>> than i

>>>> did. i'll try to catch up on reading posts tomorrow.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

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>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

I'm sure Dr. Leu can help you figure out where you are. You could be tiring

because you are out of shape and need to walk more. Do you get sick often

and easily? Anytime you start a new exercise routine, you are going to

fatigue more easily.

My first ND was against stressing my body because I was not healthy at the

time. Light stretching, gentle yoga and walking was ok. I am healthy now

and work out strong, three time a week and do yoga but still take it easy if

I am not feeling well. I hate being sick and take very good care of myself

to prevent it. I am very in tune to my body and listen to it. If I feel

weak or tired, I rest, I never push it.

Kenda

> Hey Kenda, that makes sense. I'm not sure where I'm at in the

> equation, maybe Dr. Leu will be able to help me figure it out. I'm

> not sure if I should be going for brief walks to stimulate the

> lymphatic system, or if I should still be taking it easy. Seems

> like when I walk I get tired easily, but wasn't sure if I should be

> trying to slowly build myself back up or not. Do you know if that

> includes things like yoga, or light stretching?

>

> Sis

>

>

>

>>>>

>>>> Hi everyone,

>>>>

>>>> been so busy with grad school and haven't been feeling well so i

>>>> haven't been in for a little while. i was supposed to see

> Dr.kolb

>>>> yesterday for my 2nd follow-up visit but the weather was so bad

>>> that we

>>>> had to turn around and come back. so i go next thursday on the

>>> 7th.even

>>>> though it's been 5 wks now since explant, i still feel sore up

>>> under my

>>>> brests where the scars are. it feels deeper than the scars so

> that

>>> must

>>>> be where she did the internal lift if she did one. i still feel

> a

>>>> little sore and tight too when i raise my arms over my head.is

> it

>>>> normal to still be sore after a month or longer? i have finally

>>> stopped

>>>> wearing the sports bras or bras of any kind except when

>>> exercising.i'm

>>>> going to start using the vitamin e capsules on the scars but how

>>> often

>>>> and long do you do that for? the scars look big and dark to me

> at

>>> the

>>>> moment. anyway, other than the soreness, i seem to be doing ok

>>> except

>>>> that i'm still getting viruses going around pretty often and

> that

>>> makes

>>>> my joint achiness come back so i'm still having the aching

> joints,

>>> eye

>>>> inflammation and poor memory but other than that,i feel better

>>> than i

>>>> did. i'll try to catch up on reading posts tomorrow.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

I agree, as long as her immune function is well. If it isn't, tiring

herself could be setting herself up for more illness. Bodies are meant to

move. You need to listen to your body, it will tell you if you are wiped

out after exercise or just fatigued. Fatigued is a good thing.

Kenda

> Sis . . . You MUST keep moving . . . exercise, as in

> aerobics, isn't what I'm talking about. . .

> Stretching, walking and staying in motion is

> important. Even if it hurts. And, if you haven't been

> active, it probably will.

>

> With Fibromyalgia, the less you move, the tighter the

> membrane covering your muscle becomes, the more pain

> you have - so the less you move. FM can become totally

> disabling!

>

> Tired is OK . . . In fact being tired from being

> active is a very healthy tired. Your stamina will

> build as you continue " exercising " . Don't be afraid of

> a little discomfort or fatigue.

>

> One of our currently inactive members has gone from

> being unable to do anything (five minutes of walking

> was out of the question) to working out strenously 45

> minutes daily with weights and the treadmill. She

> continues to feel better all the time.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

It sounds like your core strength is very weak. Why don't you get one of

those large exercise balls, they sell them at Wild Oats and other health

food stores. I've even seen them at Target. Some come with a video with

exercises on them. My trainer has me doing a lot of work with them at the

gym. They really are great and you can exercise as strong or light as you

want. As you get stronger, you can even do different exercises with weights

on them if you want. There really is no end to what you can do with them.

You can even stretch with them.

If you feel good doing light exercise, that's great! Do what you are

comfortable with and gradually increase your distance and pace. There is no

need to push yourself excessively, you aren't running a marathon. Just

getting out and moving is a great improvement over where you were just a few

weeks ago.

Kenda

> I feel like I am to the point where I can at least go for short

> walks and do very light exercise - nothing strenuous. A few months

> ago I had no energy at all, and couldn't have imagined doing

> anything - but I've put my 10 lbs back on that I lost, and I do feel

> more energetic lately. Joints are still bothering me, but I feel

> like I could at least try some short walks - if I feel poorly after

> trying that, then I'll know it was too much. My counselor said the

> reason why I probably fell twice in four months time was because my

> muscles were so weak, they couldn't support my body. The blood

> pressure has stayed down, after spiking to 140/98 while I had

> implants (before that it was 110/60). Today I checked it in the

> pharmacy and it was 105/65.

>

> Sis

>

>

>

>>

>> Sis . . . You MUST keep moving . . . exercise, as in

>> aerobics, isn't what I'm talking about. . .

>> Stretching, walking and staying in motion is

>> important. Even if it hurts. And, if you haven't been

>> active, it probably will.

>>

>> With Fibromyalgia, the less you move, the tighter the

>> membrane covering your muscle becomes, the more pain

>> you have - so the less you move. FM can become totally

>> disabling!

>>

>> Tired is OK . . . In fact being tired from being

>> active is a very healthy tired. Your stamina will

>> build as you continue " exercising " . Don't be afraid of

>> a little discomfort or fatigue.

>>

>> One of our currently inactive members has gone from

>> being unable to do anything (five minutes of walking

>> was out of the question) to working out strenously 45

>> minutes daily with weights and the treadmill. She

>> continues to feel better all the time.

>>

>> Hugs,

>>

>> Rogene

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

That is too funny!!

Kenda

2/4/06 5:41 PM

> You are reminding me of a few years ago when I went into Toys R Us

> looking for one of those large exercise balls and couldn't find

> them. The man in the store asked if he could help me and I asked

> him (very innocently) if he had big balls. It sounded so funny that

> we couldn't help but laugh - and I turned ten shades of red!

> Cherie

>

>>>>

>>>> Sis . . . You MUST keep moving . . . exercise, as in

>>>> aerobics, isn't what I'm talking about. . .

>>>> Stretching, walking and staying in motion is

>>>> important. Even if it hurts. And, if you haven't been

>>>> active, it probably will.

>>>>

>>>> With Fibromyalgia, the less you move, the tighter the

>>>> membrane covering your muscle becomes, the more pain

>>>> you have - so the less you move. FM can become totally

>>>> disabling!

>>>>

>>>> Tired is OK . . . In fact being tired from being

>>>> active is a very healthy tired. Your stamina will

>>>> build as you continue " exercising " . Don't be afraid of

>>>> a little discomfort or fatigue.

>>>>

>>>> One of our currently inactive members has gone from

>>>> being unable to do anything (five minutes of walking

>>>> was out of the question) to working out strenously 45

>>>> minutes daily with weights and the treadmill. She

>>>> continues to feel better all the time.

>>>>

>>>> Hugs,

>>>>

>>>> Rogene

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sis,

I always thought I was fragile too, because of my small size. I have

learned that small people can be really strong too! It took training with a

personal trainer for me to gain strength because like you, I always hurt

myself.

Good luck with your walking, I think it will really help you. Try deep

breathing exercises while you walk too, they are very cleansing and

healthful.

Kenda

> Hi Kenda,

>

> I've definitely always been a bit fragile physically, so I've

> avoided aggressive workouts because generally I'd end up hurting

> myself. However, I always walked for exercise, so I think I can

> start out going around the block and just keep increasing it as I

> feel up to it. Thanks for your suggestions.

>

> Sis

>

>

>

>>>>

>>>> Sis . . . You MUST keep moving . . . exercise, as in

>>>> aerobics, isn't what I'm talking about. . .

>>>> Stretching, walking and staying in motion is

>>>> important. Even if it hurts. And, if you haven't been

>>>> active, it probably will.

>>>>

>>>> With Fibromyalgia, the less you move, the tighter the

>>>> membrane covering your muscle becomes, the more pain

>>>> you have - so the less you move. FM can become totally

>>>> disabling!

>>>>

>>>> Tired is OK . . . In fact being tired from being

>>>> active is a very healthy tired. Your stamina will

>>>> build as you continue " exercising " . Don't be afraid of

>>>> a little discomfort or fatigue.

>>>>

>>>> One of our currently inactive members has gone from

>>>> being unable to do anything (five minutes of walking

>>>> was out of the question) to working out strenously 45

>>>> minutes daily with weights and the treadmill. She

>>>> continues to feel better all the time.

>>>>

>>>> Hugs,

>>>>

>>>> Rogene

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>

>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>

>>>