Re: Improvements in Dr. Peng's protocol

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks a lot for the reply. I feel comfortable now that I will able

to handle his BM issue by TCM. I am really thankful to Rei and you,

as your story motivated me to go for this protocol. I am also reading

your blog almost daily.

Thanks again.....

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> > We got the herbs last Monday (12/15/2008) and my son is taking

the

> > tea from Monday evening. We have stopped all the other

supplements

> > (arund 15 and also MB-12 shot, Glutathione Cream, Diflucan), that

> he

> > was taking before and I see a good progress in him. He is more

calm

> > and stimming is less. However, we still have issues in the

> following

> > area :

> >

> > 1) His goes for potty two/three times a day, which melt

immediately

> > when falls on the water and we could see the food particles in

his

> > stool.

> > 2) I think he has some gas, as he has pot belly most of times.

> > 3) Since last four months, he wants to eat always and still wants

> to

> > eat, even just after finishing a full meal.

> > 4) He has stimming, but this is less than what he had earlier.

> >

> > We are really greatful to Dr. Peng, as we can clearly see that

the

> > herb tea is working for our Son. I have never seen such a quick

> > improvements in any of protocol that we have done with him. We

are

> > doing bio-medical treatment since last one year and also done two

> > month chelation via DMSA.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am glad for you and your boy.

My son usually will go to potty twice a day with very weird looking BM and smell funky, too. We call that alien poop, we know that this is toxic metal or bacteria die-off poop ( per Dr. Peng). I noticed whenever my son has these weird BM day, he is doing much better, happy, calmer, clear mind... ( more toxin being pushed out of him...)

Sincerely, Rei

Subject: Improvements in Dr. Peng's protocolTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 2:22 PM

We got the herbs last Monday (12/15/2008) and my son is taking the tea from Monday evening. We have stopped all the other supplements (arund 15 and also MB-12 shot, Glutathione Cream, Diflucan), that he was taking before and I see a good progress in him. He is more calm and stimming is less. However, we still have issues in the following area : 1) His goes for potty two/three times a day, which melt immediately when falls on the water and we could see the food particles in his stool. 2) I think he has some gas, as he has pot belly most of times.3) Since last four months, he wants to eat always and still wants to eat, even just after finishing a full meal.4) He has stimming, but this is less than what he had earlier. We are really greatful to Dr. Peng, as we can clearly see that the herb tea is working for our Son. I have never seen such a quick improvements in any of protocol that

we have done with him. We are doing bio-medical treatment since last one year and also done two month chelation via DMSA.

[Guest guest]

Yesterday, I cut my son's hair, and he didn't cry at all. I can't

imagine how much this herb is working. My son is only on 5th day of

Dr. Peng's herb and absolutely no other supplements or anything other

than his hern.

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> Subject: Improvements in Dr. Peng's protocol

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 2:22 PM

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> We got the herbs last Monday (12/15/2008) and my son is taking the

> tea from Monday evening. We have stopped all the other supplements

> (arund 15 and also MB-12 shot, Glutathione Cream, Diflucan), that

he

> was taking before and I see a good progress in him. He is more calm

> and stimming is less. However, we still have issues in the

following

> area :

>

> 1) His goes for potty two/three times a day, which melt immediately

> when falls on the water and we could see the food particles in his

> stool.

> 2) I think he has some gas, as he has pot belly most of times.

> 3) Since last four months, he wants to eat always and still wants

to

> eat, even just after finishing a full meal.

> 4) He has stimming, but this is less than what he had earlier.

>

> We are really greatful to Dr. Peng, as we can clearly see that the

> herb tea is working for our Son. I have never seen such a quick

> improvements in any of protocol that we have done with him. We are

> doing bio-medical treatment since last one year and also done two

> month chelation via DMSA.

>

[Guest guest]

My son is 7yrs old. He knows tons of words too...but usually only

says things like " I want more ....(fill in the blank) " or he can say

things like " goodbye mommy, hi daddy, goodnight, etc " ...but he does

not come up with spontaneous thoughts via speech. He cannot express

discomfort/pain via speech. Anyway- some other things we have seen

since starting the herbs:

His coloring is better- he is not looking as pale and yellow and

sickly ...his dark circles under the eyes are much faded....almost

gone....he has put on 3 pounds (now weighs 53lbs)...his internal

hemorrhoids or whatever had been causing him to get bright blood on

the tissue after a bowel movement for 3 weeks prior to starting the

herbs- are gone. He does not cover his ears anymore(he had started

to do this often before starting the herbs). He has more energy. He

no longer needs melatonin to fall asleep at night. We were strictly

SCD for one year- have started adding in some non-SCD foods - he is

tolerating them well so far (still GFCFSFYF).

Negatives we are still dealing with: still making lots of

sounds...sometimes vocal outbursts at school....scripting a lot

(movies playing in his head?)_ sometimes very hard to get him to snap

out of it. Regarding the vocalizing- I just pulled his calcium

supplement 2 days ago - wondering if Yasko's glutamate issue could be

the cause for all the vocalizing (especially since it was getting

really bad at bed time -coincidentally after I gave him his calcium

supplement).

http://www.dramyyasko.com/Publications/EFE50725-9744-4927-ABCE-

CA2C5C540020.html

Please post any gains you also experience! I have faith in this TCM

and Dr. Peng. Thanks,

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> > > > From: pramod.samal <pramod.samal@>

> > > > Subject: Improvements in Dr. Peng's protocol

> > > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 2:22 PM

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> > > > We got the herbs last Monday (12/15/2008) and my son is

taking

> > the

> > > > tea from Monday evening. We have stopped all the other

> > supplements

> > > > (arund 15 and also MB-12 shot, Glutathione Cream, Diflucan),

> that

> > > he

> > > > was taking before and I see a good progress in him. He is

more

> > calm

> > > > and stimming is less. However, we still have issues in the

> > > following

> > > > area :

> > > >

> > > > 1) His goes for potty two/three times a day, which melt

> > immediately

> > > > when falls on the water and we could see the food particles

in

> > his

> > > > stool.

> > > > 2) I think he has some gas, as he has pot belly most of times.

> > > > 3) Since last four months, he wants to eat always and still

> wants

> > > to

> > > > eat, even just after finishing a full meal.

> > > > 4) He has stimming, but this is less than what he had

earlier.

> > > >

> > > > We are really greatful to Dr. Peng, as we can clearly see

that

> > the

> > > > herb tea is working for our Son. I have never seen such a

quick

> > > > improvements in any of protocol that we have done with him.

We

> > are

> > > > doing bio-medical treatment since last one year and also done

> two

> > > > month chelation via DMSA.

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[Guest guest]

Has anyone tried Dr.Peng for heavy metals toxicity?

[Guest guest]

I would like to know this too since I am stopping chelation for the

herbs when they get here. I'm worried about not removing the metals in

her brain.

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[Guest guest]

I would still let your TCM doc (can't remember if you said Dr Peng) know that he is experiencing loose stools, he may want to modify the formula or not, depending on what he is trying to do.

[Guest guest]

Yes there are herbs for detox.

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to post about detox. After 2.5 yrs of

heavy detox on Yasko (not using a chelation agent just

supporting the genetics for methylation/detox etc.) we

switched to TCM. We will continue to run 2-3 UTM's a

month with DDI, as we did on Yasko in the past. The first

UTM from the tea had no mercury (the previous month on

yasko it was elevated). This is not a good comparison

though, because we would get no mercury on some of our

testing on yasko also. It will only be relevant when

we get a few more tests under our belt on the tea.

I sent the 2nd one in last week, waiting for results.

Will post on our blog http://tcmforautism.blogspot.com

when we get them.

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[Guest guest]

Our first 2 wk. batch of tea from Ty's Dr. caused

some nasty stools also. The second 2 wk. batch he

added in some medicinal " antibiotic " herbs as he and

I discussed Ty's bacterial issues, and whoa - day

one on the new batch resulted in the best stools I

have seen since his asd diagnosis! They have continued

to be great!

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> I would still let your TCM doc (can't remember if you said Dr Peng)

know

> that he is experiencing loose stools, he may want to modify the

formula or

> not, depending on what he is trying to do.

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

This information is so helpful. May I know, how you order the UTM ?

I mean, where you get the test kit ? and what kind of test you are

ordeing. I use to get the test kit from my DAN doctor and she use to

fill the type of testing I need. My son was pulling lot of lead,

while I was doing chelation via DMSA, but his behaviour was getting

worse, so I stopped the same after two months and now he is on 7th

day of Dr. Peng's herb and he looks very good, has a good mood

always, more affectionate...... Yesterday only I see two BM with

very well formed poop, may be first time after 4 months.

Thanks a lot for maintaining such a nice blog.

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[Guest guest]

We get the DDI Urine Toxic Metal kits from our

DAN dr. I showed the test to my TCM Dr. and

he was very interested for his other patients.

He took the information off of Ty's results

to order some kits for his office also, I think.

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[Guest guest]

Dr. Peng's herb protocol has the function to teach or train our body how to detox through working on liver, kidney.

Sincerely, Rei

Subject: Re: Re: Improvements in Dr. Peng's protocolTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:14 AM

Has anyone tried Dr.Peng for heavy metals toxicity?

[Guest guest]

Hi Rei,

Thanks a lot for this update. All this will motivate many parents to

try Dr. Peng's protocol. I can see clearly that it's working for my

son, even though no wow momemt for us as yet. My son is on his 7days

in the herb till date and I know, it will take time. But, I have seen

clearly that my son is very very calm now.

Thanks a lot again.

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[Guest guest]

Not but a UTM is a Urine Toxic Metals test and DDI is the lab

that processes it Doctors Data Inc http://www.doctorsdata.com/home.asp

If you don't have a doctor who can order this test for you, you can use

Direct Labs http://www.directlabs.com/

I order them through Yasko or my DAN Chiropractor.

-S

, what is UTM and DDI? I am thinking about having my son get metal

toxin test pretty soon, since he has been on Dr. Peng's herb for over 2

months.

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> The only toxic metal detection that we have done is the hair test. Do

you guys think this test will work, too?

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> Sincerely,

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> Rei

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[Guest guest]

here is the link for more information -

http://www.doctorsdata.com/test_info.asp?id=4

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[Guest guest]

Rei, may I ask what made you choose Dr. Peng's protocol over Andy

Cutler's chelation protocol? I did months of research before

choosing Andy's chelation protocol. I did some more research and

chose to follow another person's advice on dietary information. And

most recently, I did a whole bunch of research on Amla and found that

it was responsible for complete elimination of yeast in my child and

also had many other benefits specific to the biological problems in

autism.

This is my concern about your post below, is the body truly able to

detox mercury from the brain by itself even if it " knows " what it's

doing? From what I can recall, I don't think so. If you have

information stating otherwise, I would be very interested in it.

What it comes down to is whether the liver and kidney problems are

the cause of the retaining of mercury or whether they are the

result. What do you think? Maybe you could ask Dr. Peng what he

thinks?

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for this post Rei.

, think about how neurotypical children are exposed to the same

amount of toxins as ASD kids, and still they do not develop autism. If

we can get our kids to build up the same defence mechanisms, as compared

to only get them to excrete toxins on one off occasions (as Rei said

they are going to be repeatedly exposed throughout their lives)...

wouldn't that be the holy grail?

Natasa

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> > From: Shilpa Lele deepshilp@ ..>

> > Subject: Re: Re: Improvements in Dr. Peng's protocol

> > To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

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[Guest guest]

Our journey has been similar to Rei's. My son was

dx. very young, 20 mos.old and we have implemented many,

many treatments. My son has excreted a lot of mercury

throughout the process, enough that his Drs. wonder

about current exposure (of which we can only assume

there is not). Enough that I question how much the

mercury is at play with his autism - I mean, if he

has been excreting it for 4 yrs and we have never

gotten a WOW from reduced levels (even 2 " normal "

porphyrin tests) something else is far more affecting

him cognitively than the mercury??? And how much stress

have we put on his organs moving mercury for that

amount of time? When I read Rei's initial experience

with the TCM when she began, it was like a light bulb

went off in my head. This would be a good thing for

Ty based on our history of biomed and a much needed

break that we wanted to take from supplements.

As with most interventions, TCM has proven to be

another slow and steady response for Ty, but it is

the first treatment in a long time that hasn't produced

huge regressions in him. Ty is a 2 step forward, 1

step back kind of kid. Just when you think he is

going to transition to the next level cognitively,

he loses something and we are crushed. He has twice

transitioned from non verbal to pre verbal, only to

lose the gains 2-3 wks. later. We have no idea why.

So I like that the TCM seems to be giving him a level

playing field... possibly his skills will build for

once, instead of playing " tag, you're it " , lol. I feel

like I am on the gerbil wheel of autism at times,

and if we could just see anything stick and progress,

we would be eternally grateful to end this 4 yr. game

of cat and mouse. I hope that TCM is going to achieve

this!

Keep the faith gang.. 2009 is full of hope!

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> > > From: Shilpa Lele deepshilp@ ..>

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Improvements in Dr. Peng's

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> > > To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

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[Guest guest]

Thanks - we have an arsenal of interventions

under our belt, Cutler protocol being one of them in

2005 (for 6 months). My son, to the best of my knowledge

and the Drs. testing comments, is not a seizure kid.

He is a tough nut, through and through. I have often

said if we ever get to recovery, his will be a story

like no other! We'll keep trying, of course!

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> > > > From: Shilpa Lele deepshilp@ ..>

> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Improvements in Dr. Peng's

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Wow Rei and Ty I am very impressed with your responses! The only thing I'd like to add for is that often we don't know what came first it is essentially the chicken or the egg, all we do know is that in TCM there are the deficiencies (Kidneys, livers, spleens etc not working well) and the excesses (heart and mind being clouded, toxins/pathogens creating heat, etc) we can guage and try to figure out the root vs branch and treat by that. TCM is able to detox, there are thousands of herbs out there and some of them are very good at ridding the body of pathogens, so yes someone's issue may be from mercury but just because the treatment isn't " chelation " doesn't mean it can't be beneficial and efficient. Also while toxins were not as significant way back in the day of TCM we certainly had chicken pox, measles, and all sorts of other virsues, bacterias, fungus, etc and TCM is well known to treat these quite effectively and especially in children. Children respond extremely well to TCM, much faster and easier than adults. When I first got out of school I was going to specialize in peds and did for awhile, but then I moved to a small town in a not so progressive state and getting people to bring their kids in for TCM was almost impossible and I had to switch my specialty, it really is sad that more people don't realize what an effective medicine this is. Of course like any medicine, any treatment, any supplement, one size does not fit all.

[Guest guest]

I am aware of the body needing to be strong and able to function

properly to detox, as far as I know this is the whole purpose of

biological treatment of autism. For us, that meant avoiding foods

that cause allergic reaction and excitotoxicity; a diet of whole

foods, raw foods, and anti-inflammatory oils; increasing anti-

oxidants and free-radical destroyers; and replacing vitamins,

minerals, and amino acids known to be deficient in children with

autism or known to have certain effect on specific symptoms.

I have briefly studied lymphatic drainage, the Meridian Systems of

TCM, and the affects of acupuncture on autism. My studies have

focused on the large intestine meridian because my son complains of

specific points on this meridian when he has food sensitivities.

(index finger and jaw). Much, but not all of this problem has been

eliminated with Amla (Phyllanthus Emblica) and by eating enzymes with

food and paying close attention to foods that trigger the problem so

we can avoid them.

A year and a half ago, my son was so aggressive that it was difficult

having any friends or taking him anywhere. I was afraid that if

things didn't change, he would hurt someone and one of us would end

up in jail or an institution. This year, things have totally changed

now that we decreased the load on the immune system. We have our son

back, but he still has his allergies.

A few months ago, I read the book, The Autoimmune Epidemic, by Donna

Nakasawa and I found this passage that worries me:

" Fairweather's most recently published papers contend that the

adaptive immune response is, in fact, 'completely controlled by what

happens at that critical initial meeting when the innate immune

system reacts for the very first time to an invader.' "

The Fairweather they are referring to is De Fairweather, Phd. a

young assistant professor at the Bloomberg School of Public Health's

Department of Environmental Health Sciences Division of Toxicology.

So, when is the first time the body reacts to an invader? Could it

be during vaccination that it is first exposed to MSG, soy protein,

egg, yeast, etc. WITH an adjuvant to make the immune system

recognize " all of it " as an invader!? Aluminum and food proteins are

used to induce allergies in lab rats, is the same thing happening

through vaccination of our children? I wonder, is there any way to

change these immune responses?

It scares me, but I believe and hope the body can overcome...I just

don't know how. There are theories that getting rid of heavy metals

and restoring balance to the body's systems can eliminate allergies.

As for the metals, I am not sure if the body is even able to

recognize they are invaders and get rid of them. I think the only

way to get rid of them is by chelation or finding substances that

will " replace " them on receptors and in the bone.

I believe the role of TCM must be to clear detox pathways so that

this can happen, but I don't believe it will happen without chelation

and supplementation. I remember reading some dreadful article about

the removal of lead and the destruction done on the way out being

more damaging than just leaving it alone.

So with ALL that said, if any of you have some practical information

about TCM herbs or substances I can use to enhance or improve heart,

liver, and kidney function during chelation that is safe and

effective, I am VERY interested. We just cannot afford an expert at

this time.

By the way, I am very intrigued by Rei's comment that speech delays

are a result of kidney problems...because DMSA, which detoxes through

the kidneys prompted my son to make his first comments and ask his

first questions EVER! Thanks to everyone for this discussion, I will

never stop learning for my child and I will never be let pride, trust

or loyalty get in the way of the finding the truth!

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> Wow Rei and Ty I am very impressed with your responses! The only

thing I'd

> like to add for is that often we don't know what came

first it is

> essentially the chicken or the egg, all we do know is that in TCM

there are

> the deficiencies (Kidneys, livers, spleens etc not working well)

and the

> excesses (heart and mind being clouded, toxins/pathogens creating

heat, etc)

> we can guage and try to figure out the root vs branch and treat by

that.

> TCM is able to detox, there are thousands of herbs out there and

some of

> them are very good at ridding the body of pathogens, so yes

someone's issue

> may be from mercury but just because the treatment

isn't " chelation " doesn't

> mean it can't be beneficial and efficient. Also while toxins were

not as

> significant way back in the day of TCM we certainly had chicken pox,

> measles, and all sorts of other virsues, bacterias, fungus, etc and

TCM is

> well known to treat these quite effectively and especially in

children.

> Children respond extremely well to TCM, much faster and easier than

adults.

> When I first got out of school I was going to specialize in peds

and did for

> awhile, but then I moved to a small town in a not so progressive

state and

> getting people to bring their kids in for TCM was almost impossible

and I

> had to switch my specialty, it really is sad that more people don't

realize

> what an effective medicine this is. Of course like any medicine,

any

> treatment, any supplement, one size does not fit all.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Good for you for becoming educated and wary and open, three very important traits in our struggle to health. While I do not claim to be an expert as I would never claim it (I am wary of those who do!) I do have a masters of science in TCM with experience in pediatrics and experience as a mom of a child with autism and with experience of treating the impossible - I have helped numerous women get pregnant when western medicine has failed them among many other triumphs. I have also overcome an incurable western disease, narcolepsy with the use of TCM, which is a huge factor in my being an acupuncturist. I have also failed and am always constantly learning.

The problem with trying to look at autism with both western medicine AND TCM is that it is impossible. It is comparing apples to oranges or rather more like comparing apples to meat. When we discuss organs often they have completely different roles in each of the medicines while some qualities are the same. Also in TCM we are never treating one organ, one pathology, one part, the body works as a whole, physical, mental, and spiritual. We also never treat with only one herb, one supplement, one point (well there are a few who claim one point wonders, lol) we treat with multiple herbs trying to create balance.

I can't really get into the depths of western this and that as that was not the main focus of my training, we obviously learn quite a bit of western medicine but not enough to go into detail of detox pathways and how things are stored in the body vs the mind for example. I can go somewhat into supplement depth just because we are living it at my house.

I would be happy to give advice about any of the organs possibly affecting your son but that is impossible without a detailed history and hopefully an idea of some other diagnostic tools we use in TCM. Another thing that I don't think people are aware of is that Dr. Peng is not a specialist in autism, he is using his medicine to treat what he sees, as all of us in TCM do. He also happens to be very good at it from what I can tell. I looked at his site and he doesn't profess to be an expert in autism. There are a few, maybe 3 who do and I can't get them to contact me back, but it has only been a short time and its the holidays. While having someone who has experience with our kids is fantastic and probably better - any practitioner worth their salt or maybe I should say herb, lol should be able to help, this being said not all practitioners are created equal, just like any other field.

Oh and on the comment of DMSA linking to kidneys and speech, I *believe* Rei was discussing her TCM treatment helping speech, as I said above organs are not always going to have the same purpose in western vs TCM.

So enjoy your holiday with your little boy , I think you are an incredible mom, keep on keepin' on!

-- Ormonde, L.Ac.www.AuburnCommunityAcupuncture.com

[Guest guest]

" While having someone who has

> experience with our kids is fantastic and probably better - any

practitioner

> worth their salt or maybe I should say herb, lol should be able to

help, "

well said , we have wanted to try TCM for ds since... well ever

since we started the biomed journey 3.5 years ago, but it was always the

lack of recommendations, not knowing anything about local practitioners

and not having anyone to ask what to look out for when choosing one.

Natasa

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> Good for you for becoming educated and wary and open, three very

important

> traits in our struggle to health. While I do not claim to be an

expert as I

> would never claim it (I am wary of those who do!) I do have a masters

of

> science in TCM with experience in pediatrics and experience as a mom

of a

> child with autism and with experience of treating the impossible - I

have

> helped numerous women get pregnant when western medicine has failed

them

> among many other triumphs. I have also overcome an incurable western

> disease, narcolepsy with the use of TCM, which is a huge factor in my

being

> an acupuncturist. I have also failed and am always constantly

learning.

>

> The problem with trying to look at autism with both western medicine

AND TCM

> is that it is impossible. It is comparing apples to oranges or rather

more

> like comparing apples to meat. When we discuss organs often they have

> completely different roles in each of the medicines while some

qualities are

> the same. Also in TCM we are never treating one organ, one pathology,

one

> part, the body works as a whole, physical, mental, and spiritual. We

also

> never treat with only one herb, one supplement, one point (well there

are a

> few who claim one point wonders, lol) we treat with multiple herbs

trying to

> create balance.

>

> I can't really get into the depths of western this and that as that

was not

> the main focus of my training, we obviously learn quite a bit of

western

> medicine but not enough to go into detail of detox pathways and how

things

> are stored in the body vs the mind for example. I can go somewhat

into

> supplement depth just because we are living it at my house.

>

> I would be happy to give advice about any of the organs possibly

affecting

> your son but that is impossible without a detailed history and

hopefully an

> idea of some other diagnostic tools we use in TCM. Another thing that

I

> don't think people are aware of is that Dr. Peng is not a specialist

in

> autism, he is using his medicine to treat what he sees, as all of us

in TCM

> do. He also happens to be very good at it from what I can tell. I

looked

> at his site and he doesn't profess to be an expert in autism. There

are a

> few, maybe 3 who do and I can't get them to contact me back, but it

has only

> been a short time and its the holidays. While having someone who has

> experience with our kids is fantastic and probably better - any

practitioner

> worth their salt or maybe I should say herb, lol should be able to

help,

> this being said not all practitioners are created equal, just like any

other

> field.

> Oh and on the comment of DMSA linking to kidneys and speech, I

*believe* Rei

> was discussing her TCM treatment helping speech, as I said above

organs are

> not always going to have the same purpose in western vs TCM.

>

> So enjoy your holiday with your little boy , I think you are

an

> incredible mom, keep on keepin' on!

>

>

> --

> Ormonde, L.Ac.

> www.AuburnCommunityAcupuncture.com

>