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, I am so sorry for your suffering. I will definately be praying for you and your children. I know how you feel, with the frustration with your implanting doctor. I wish I had been told six years ago that my tectured saline implants could cause certain auto-immune symptoms. I would have known what to watch for earlier. I could have had them taken out sooner. Please stay with this group, there is alot of imformation for managing and dealing with the symptoms. Lambert <manditenerife1@...> wrote: Ruptured Implants I have been reading your information in the hope that it could help me. 1 had soya implants in 1998 but had to have them

replaced on 26th June 2001 after the publicity and the withdrawal from the market. They had actually leaked after giving birth to my daughter. The surgeon replaced them with silicone gel who informed me that they were quite safe and that it was a quick and simple operation lasting approx 30 minutes. The operation actually took 1hr and 40 minutes!!. I never received any after care or any information regarding the previous implants. After about 6 months, I noticed that the form has changed slightly, the right one appeared a little loose and saggy whilst the left one seemed unusually hard. I returned to see the surgeon who told me that there was no problem. I also asked him if the itching in my arms, which had started after the first implants was related, he said it was not. The itching in my arms was awful. It woke me at night and I saw several skin

specialists to no avail. I had various blood test and biopsys which also revealed nothing. The link to the silicone implants went unnoticed. A year later, I began having joint problems and was referred to a bone specialist and after having various scans was told that it was inflammation of my joints and that I had arthiritis. The pains just worsened over the year, the itching carried on despite trying every cream etc on the market. 6 months ago things progressed. I got a sudden pain through my foot and was unable to walk. The hospital bound it and gave me inflamatory tablets. Then the same thing happened to my hand. Then again my foot and more recently I had an abcess on the top of my leg which has burst and is full of poison. I have an internal lump on the inside of my elbow and awful pains in my arms, upper neck, hips and spine. The itching in my arms is unbearable and can keep me up at night and I have small lumps

under my skin. I have many scars and the spots often bleed through itching. I decided to go and see an English doctor. (I live in Tenerife and have been dealing with Spanish consultants). I told her what I thought, that the implants were leaking. She sent me for an Eco scan which has proved that is the case. The right breast is leaking and the other has capuslar leakage. I have a 3mm lump in the right breast, solid lesions and various other things they have written but I am unable to translate. I am going to see a surgeon tomorrow and I have a letter from my Doctor asking for an MRI Scan to see where the silicone has travelled. To say I am scared is an understatement. I have children who depend one me and more so as their father died suddenly in December. If I had been told of the risks involved I would never had gone ahead

with implants but more importantly, if I had known what silicone can do to your body and how ill it can make you, I would have been able to diagnose the problem myself much sooner. I thought this might help your web pages especially as my implants leaked after only 6 months!! (44 years)

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Welcome to . . . It sounds like you've

really been given the run around by your doctors.

I feel deeply for you for the loss of your husband.

I'm sure your loss is adding to the stress from having

implants. . . And, we've learned that we don't handle

stress well!

As for English Doctors, I'd suggest Dr. Myhill . . .

She's easy to find with a websearch. . . She's very

knowledgable about breast implant matters. I'm afraid

she's somewhat expensive though.

I can't imagine your doctor not notifying you as soon

as it was discovered how bad soy bean implants are!

Once you get your implants out, your chances of

beginning to heal are quite good . . . regardless of

all the problems you are having now. We have a lot of

suggestions for getting better . . . You'll find them

in the archives and in messages - and from the

wonderful women who stay with the group to help other

women get through this nightmare.

Did you have any of your children after getting your

implants?

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Be sure to read the information on proper removal of implants. I

think that if you could afford to come to the US to one of our

doctors that we recommend you would have a better chance of complete removal.

Lynda

At 03:17 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote:

>

> Ruptured Implants

>

>I have been reading your information in the hope that it could help me.

>

>1 had soya implants in 1998 but had to have them replaced on 26th

>June 2001 after the publicity and the withdrawal from the

>market. They had actually leaked after giving birth to my daughter.

>

>The surgeon replaced them with silicone gel who informed me that

>they were quite safe and that it was a quick and simple operation

>lasting approx 30 minutes. The operation actually took 1hr and 40

>minutes!!. I never received any after care or any information

>regarding the previous implants.

>

>After about 6 months, I noticed that the form has changed slightly,

>the right one appeared a little loose and saggy whilst the left one

>seemed unusually hard. I returned to see the surgeon who told me

>that there was no problem. I also asked him if the itching in my

>arms, which had started after the first implants was related, he

>said it was not.

>

>The itching in my arms was awful. It woke me at night and I saw

>several skin specialists to no avail. I had various blood test and

>biopsys which also revealed nothing. The link to the silicone

>implants went unnoticed. A year later, I began having joint

>problems and was referred to a bone specialist and after having

>various scans was told that it was inflammation of my joints and

>that I had arthiritis. The pains just worsened over the year, the

>itching carried on despite trying every cream etc on the market.

>6 months ago things progressed. I got a sudden pain through my foot

>and was unable to walk. The hospital bound it and gave me

>inflamatory tablets. Then the same thing happened to my hand. Then

>again my foot and more recently I had an abcess on the top of my leg

>which has burst and is full of poison. I have an internal lump on

>the inside of my elbow and awful pains in my arms, upper neck, hips

>and spine. The itching in my arms is unbearable and can keep me up

>at night and I have small lumps under my skin. I have many scars

>and the spots often bleed through itching.

>

>I decided to go and see an English doctor. (I live in Tenerife and

>have been dealing with Spanish consultants). I told her what I

>thought, that the implants were leaking.

>She sent me for an Eco scan which has proved that is the case.

>The right breast is leaking and the other has capuslar leakage.

>I have a 3mm lump in the right breast, solid lesions and various

>other things they have written but I am unable to translate.

>

>I am going to see a surgeon tomorrow and I have a letter from my

>Doctor asking for an MRI Scan to see where the silicone has

>travelled. To say I am scared is an understatement. I have

>children who depend one me and more so as their father died suddenly

>in December.

>

>If I had been told of the risks involved I would never had gone

>ahead with implants but more importantly, if I had known what

>silicone can do to your body and how ill it can make you, I would

>have been able to diagnose the problem myself much sooner.

>

>I thought this might help your web pages especially as my implants

>leaked after only 6 months!!

>

> (44 years)

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

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>

>

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I think Sue Gibbens can recommend a surgeon in London

too. - Rogene

--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Be sure to read the information on proper removal of

> implants. I

> think that if you could afford to come to the US to

> one of our

> doctors that we recommend you would have a better

> chance of complete removal.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 03:17 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > Ruptured Implants

> >

> >I have been reading your information in the hope

> that it could help me.

> >

> >1 had soya implants in 1998 but had to have them

> replaced on 26th

> >June 2001 after the publicity and the withdrawal

> from the

> >market. They had actually leaked after giving

> birth to my daughter.

> >

> >The surgeon replaced them with silicone gel who

> informed me that

> >they were quite safe and that it was a quick and

> simple operation

> >lasting approx 30 minutes. The operation actually

> took 1hr and 40

> >minutes!!. I never received any after care or any

> information

> >regarding the previous implants.

> >

> >After about 6 months, I noticed that the form has

> changed slightly,

> >the right one appeared a little loose and saggy

> whilst the left one

> >seemed unusually hard. I returned to see the

> surgeon who told me

> >that there was no problem. I also asked him if the

> itching in my

> >arms, which had started after the first implants

> was related, he

> >said it was not.

> >

> >The itching in my arms was awful. It woke me at

> night and I saw

> >several skin specialists to no avail. I had

> various blood test and

> >biopsys which also revealed nothing. The link to

> the silicone

> >implants went unnoticed. A year later, I began

> having joint

> >problems and was referred to a bone specialist and

> after having

> >various scans was told that it was inflammation of

> my joints and

> >that I had arthiritis. The pains just worsened

> over the year, the

> >itching carried on despite trying every cream etc

> on the market.

> >6 months ago things progressed. I got a sudden

> pain through my foot

> >and was unable to walk. The hospital bound it and

> gave me

> >inflamatory tablets. Then the same thing happened

> to my hand. Then

> >again my foot and more recently I had an abcess on

> the top of my leg

> >which has burst and is full of poison. I have an

> internal lump on

> >the inside of my elbow and awful pains in my arms,

> upper neck, hips

> >and spine. The itching in my arms is unbearable and

> can keep me up

> >at night and I have small lumps under my skin. I

> have many scars

> >and the spots often bleed through itching.

> >

> >I decided to go and see an English doctor. (I live

> in Tenerife and

> >have been dealing with Spanish consultants). I

> told her what I

> >thought, that the implants were leaking.

> >She sent me for an Eco scan which has proved that

> is the case.

> >The right breast is leaking and the other has

> capuslar leakage.

> >I have a 3mm lump in the right breast, solid

> lesions and various

> >other things they have written but I am unable to

> translate.

> >

> >I am going to see a surgeon tomorrow and I have a

> letter from my

> >Doctor asking for an MRI Scan to see where the

> silicone has

> >travelled. To say I am scared is an

> understatement. I have

> >children who depend one me and more so as their

> father died suddenly

> >in December.

> >

> >If I had been told of the risks involved I would

> never had gone

> >ahead with implants but more importantly, if I had

> known what

> >silicone can do to your body and how ill it can

> make you, I would

> >have been able to diagnose the problem myself much

> sooner.

> >

> >I thought this might help your web pages especially

> as my implants

> >leaked after only 6 months!!

> >

> > (44 years)

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given

> >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> physician or

> >licensed health care professional before commencing

> any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians

> >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make

> your own

> >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to

> work for a

> >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel

> Prize Winner (1954,

> >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access

> at this link:

>

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\

m/action/

> >

> >

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Hi ,

I'm very sorry that you've had so many problems recently - and I'm

glad you found us. Having a group like this has been such a great

relief for me these past few months, and we'll be there for you.

It's hard to remain strong when you no longer know your body, but I

know you want to remain strong for your children, and I know how

difficult it is to hold it together when your world is falling

apart. This site will help you on that front, when you're in need

of comfort we'll listen, and when you need advice, you'll receive a

number of suggestions and you can choose which one works best for

you - but it's great to know that there are women who have been

through this and can offer guidance.

I'm going to school full-time and my Management Professor brought up

business ethics and social responsibility of corporations, and cited

Dow Corning as a company that had none of either of those qualities

because of the problems with silicone breast implants. I was glad

he brought it up, and of course we know that Mentor and Inamed fall

into the same category as Dow, and that it's not only silicone

making women sick, it's saline as well (and soya).

Sis

> >

> > Ruptured Implants

> >

> >I have been reading your information in the hope that it could

help me.

> >

> >1 had soya implants in 1998 but had to have them replaced on 26th

> >June 2001 after the publicity and the withdrawal from the

> >market. They had actually leaked after giving birth to my

daughter.

> >

> >The surgeon replaced them with silicone gel who informed me that

> >they were quite safe and that it was a quick and simple operation

> >lasting approx 30 minutes. The operation actually took 1hr and

40

> >minutes!!. I never received any after care or any information

> >regarding the previous implants.

> >

> >After about 6 months, I noticed that the form has changed

slightly,

> >the right one appeared a little loose and saggy whilst the left

one

> >seemed unusually hard. I returned to see the surgeon who told me

> >that there was no problem. I also asked him if the itching in my

> >arms, which had started after the first implants was related, he

> >said it was not.

> >

> >The itching in my arms was awful. It woke me at night and I saw

> >several skin specialists to no avail. I had various blood test

and

> >biopsys which also revealed nothing. The link to the silicone

> >implants went unnoticed. A year later, I began having joint

> >problems and was referred to a bone specialist and after having

> >various scans was told that it was inflammation of my joints and

> >that I had arthiritis. The pains just worsened over the year,

the

> >itching carried on despite trying every cream etc on the market.

> >6 months ago things progressed. I got a sudden pain through my

foot

> >and was unable to walk. The hospital bound it and gave me

> >inflamatory tablets. Then the same thing happened to my hand.

Then

> >again my foot and more recently I had an abcess on the top of my

leg

> >which has burst and is full of poison. I have an internal lump

on

> >the inside of my elbow and awful pains in my arms, upper neck,

hips

> >and spine. The itching in my arms is unbearable and can keep me

up

> >at night and I have small lumps under my skin. I have many scars

> >and the spots often bleed through itching.

> >

> >I decided to go and see an English doctor. (I live in Tenerife

and

> >have been dealing with Spanish consultants). I told her what I

> >thought, that the implants were leaking.

> >She sent me for an Eco scan which has proved that is the case.

> >The right breast is leaking and the other has capuslar leakage.

> >I have a 3mm lump in the right breast, solid lesions and various

> >other things they have written but I am unable to translate.

> >

> >I am going to see a surgeon tomorrow and I have a letter from my

> >Doctor asking for an MRI Scan to see where the silicone has

> >travelled. To say I am scared is an understatement. I have

> >children who depend one me and more so as their father died

suddenly

> >in December.

> >

> >If I had been told of the risks involved I would never had gone

> >ahead with implants but more importantly, if I had known what

> >silicone can do to your body and how ill it can make you, I would

> >have been able to diagnose the problem myself much sooner.

> >

> >I thought this might help your web pages especially as my

implants

> >leaked after only 6 months!!

> >

> > (44 years)

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given

> >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

(1954,

> >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.sh

utterfly.com/action/

> >

> >

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I am so so sorry for what happened to you. Each time I hear another

story, I get upset and angry all over again. So many lives so

thoughtlessly destroyed and yet they still continue to maintain

these things are safe and hardly ever rupture. Unbelievable! You

need to find a good PS who can remove these bags of poison and get

as much silicone as possible out of you. Then you will need to

detox detox detox and do whatever necessary to get your health built

back up. We welcome you to our group, and we will support you in

anyway we can. This is an awesome support group and I am so glad

you found us.

Hugs, Kathy

-- In , " Lambert "

<manditenerife1@...> wrote:

>

>

> Ruptured Implants

>

>

> I have been reading your information in the hope that it

could help me.

>

> 1 had soya implants in 1998 but had to have them replaced on

26th June 2001 after the publicity and the withdrawal from the

market. They had actually leaked after giving birth to my daughter.

>

> The surgeon replaced them with silicone gel who informed me

that they were quite safe and that it was a quick and simple

operation lasting approx 30 minutes. The operation actually took

1hr and 40 minutes!!. I never received any after care or any

information regarding the previous implants.

>

> After about 6 months, I noticed that the form has changed

slightly, the right one appeared a little loose and saggy whilst the

left one seemed unusually hard. I returned to see the surgeon who

told me that there was no problem. I also asked him if the itching

in my arms, which had started after the first implants was related,

he said it was not.

>

> The itching in my arms was awful. It woke me at night and I

saw several skin specialists to no avail. I had various blood test

and biopsys which also revealed nothing. The link to the silicone

implants went unnoticed. A year later, I began having joint

problems and was referred to a bone specialist and after having

various scans was told that it was inflammation of my joints and

that I had arthiritis. The pains just worsened over the year, the

itching carried on despite trying every cream etc on the market.

> 6 months ago things progressed. I got a sudden pain through

my foot and was unable to walk. The hospital bound it and gave me

inflamatory tablets. Then the same thing happened to my hand. Then

again my foot and more recently I had an abcess on the top of my leg

which has burst and is full of poison. I have an internal lump on

the inside of my elbow and awful pains in my arms, upper neck, hips

and spine. The itching in my arms is unbearable and can keep me up

at night and I have small lumps under my skin. I have many scars

and the spots often bleed through itching.

>

> I decided to go and see an English doctor. (I live in

Tenerife and have been dealing with Spanish consultants). I told

her what I thought, that the implants were leaking.

> She sent me for an Eco scan which has proved that is the

case.

> The right breast is leaking and the other has capuslar

leakage.

> I have a 3mm lump in the right breast, solid lesions and

various other things they have written but I am unable to translate.

>

> I am going to see a surgeon tomorrow and I have a letter

from my Doctor asking for an MRI Scan to see where the silicone has

travelled. To say I am scared is an understatement. I have

children who depend one me and more so as their father died suddenly

in December.

>

> If I had been told of the risks involved I would never had

gone ahead with implants but more importantly, if I had known what

silicone can do to your body and how ill it can make you, I would

have been able to diagnose the problem myself much sooner.

>

> I thought this might help your web pages especially as my

implants leaked after only 6 months!!

>

> (44 years)

>

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Hi,

Thank you for your reply. In answer to your question, yes, I was pregnant whilst I had my soya implants in. They were removed when Ebony was 6 months old and replaced by silicone gel.

Ebony is now 5 years old and beautiful though she did suffer many ailments as a baby including severe colic until she was 2, digestive problems, chest problems i.e. Bronchitis regularly.

She still has chest infections every two months or so and also complains of pains in her legs often.

I don't know wether this has any bearing as to me having implants, never thought about it before. I did not breastfeed.

I have seen a surgeon today who has referred me to another one in the North of the Island as he said there was no-one qualified here in the South to deal with this. He actually told me not to worry and that they may not have to take the implants out!!! They are leaking so why wouldn't he want to take them out!! I now have an appointment on 10th March to see the other surgeon, who is a plastic surgeon and also I am having my MRI Scan to hopefully establish as to where the silicone has gone.

I am going to buy some detox products tomorrow (if I can get them here in Tenerife).

Do I have any grounds to Sue the surgeon who did the implants? I have no information on them, what make etc., and the guy won't speak with me either.

Thank you again,

- Tenerife.

-- Re: Fw: Ruptured Implants

,Welcome to . . . It sounds like you'vereally been given the run around by your doctors. I feel deeply for you for the loss of your husband.I'm sure your loss is adding to the stress from havingimplants. . . And, we've learned that we don't handlestress well!As for English Doctors, I'd suggest Dr. Myhill . . .She's easy to find with a websearch. . . She's veryknowledgable about breast implant matters. I'm afraidshe's somewhat expensive though. I can't imagine your doctor not notifying you as soonas it was discovered how bad soy bean implants are!Once you get your implants out, your chances ofbeginning to heal are quite good . . . regardless ofall the problems you are having now. We have a lot ofsuggestions for getting better . . . You'll find themin the archives and in messages - and from thewonderful women who stay with the group to help otherwomen get through this nightmare. Did you have any of your children after getting yourimplants? Hugs and prayers,Rogene

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I've sent you an invitation to SiliconeKids . . .

You'll find your daughter's problems aren't unusual

among children of implanted mothers. . .

Even soya implants had silicone shells. . . I don't

know if platinum was used as a catalyst in the shells,

or what was used with the soya oil . . . However, the

ionized platinum that leaches from silicone is a very

potent neurotoxin.

A product I'm using to fight cancer, Natural Cellular

Defense, is noted for removing heavy metals and other

toxins from the body. If you'll do a websearch, you'll

find a lot of info.

I wish you were here in the states . . . There is some

testing for platinum available. . . Contact m keeling

<keeling.m@...> . Maybe she can arrange

testing for you. I believe all that's required is a

blood test.

Shari belongs to both this group and the kids group.

She has an affected son. Lana and are two

SiliconeKids members who you can talk to as well.

The main thing you need to be assured of is that the

doctor will remove the capsule that has grown around

your implants. The capsule contains debris that will

significantly delay, or prevent, your healing. This is

called a total capsulectomy. . . A good surgeon will

also put drains in until there is no signficant

drainage.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Rogene, I read somewhere that you have to keep oils in your kitchen in the refrigerator, otherwise they gets putrid and toxic. Do you think this has something to do with the problems with soya oil implants? Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: ,I've sent you an invitation to SiliconeKids . . .You'll find your daughter's problems aren't unusualamong children of implanted mothers. . . Even soya implants had silicone shells. . . I don'tknow if platinum was used as a catalyst in the shells,or what was used with the soya oil . . . However, theionized platinum that leaches from silicone is a verypotent neurotoxin. A product I'm using to fight cancer, Natural CellularDefense, is noted for removing

heavy metals and othertoxins from the body. If you'll do a websearch, you'llfind a lot of info.I wish you were here in the states . . . There is sometesting for platinum available. . . Contact m keeling<keeling.m@...> . Maybe she can arrangetesting for you. I believe all that's required is ablood test.Shari belongs to both this group and the kids group.She has an affected son. Lana and are twoSiliconeKids members who you can talk to as well.The main thing you need to be assured of is that thedoctor will remove the capsule that has grown aroundyour implants. The capsule contains debris that willsignificantly delay, or prevent, your healing. This iscalled a total capsulectomy. . . A good surgeon willalso put drains in until there is no signficantdrainage.Hugs and prayers,Rogene

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Most assuredly! That soybean oil goes rancid! And if it ruptures in

the body, watch out. Rancid oils are extremely toxic to the body,

causing cancer and all kinds of other malfunctions. I believe that

is why the implants were removed from the market. Another example of

a " new and improved! " touted implant that turned to disaster because

those involved in the marketing of implants have no clue about such

things....just wild ideas without adequate research, using women as

guinea pigs. A sickening way to do business.

Patty

> ,

>

> I've sent you an invitation to SiliconeKids . . .

> You'll find your daughter's problems aren't unusual

> among children of implanted mothers. . .

>

> Even soya implants had silicone shells. . . I don't

> know if platinum was used as a catalyst in the shells,

> or what was used with the soya oil . . . However, the

> ionized platinum that leaches from silicone is a very

> potent neurotoxin.

>

> A product I'm using to fight cancer, Natural Cellular

> Defense, is noted for removing heavy metals and other

> toxins from the body. If you'll do a websearch, you'll

> find a lot of info.

>

> I wish you were here in the states . . . There is some

> testing for platinum available. . . Contact m keeling

> <keeling.m@...> . Maybe she can arrange

> testing for you. I believe all that's required is a

> blood test.

>

> Shari belongs to both this group and the kids group.

> She has an affected son. Lana and are two

> SiliconeKids members who you can talk to as well.

>

> The main thing you need to be assured of is that the

> doctor will remove the capsule that has grown around

> your implants. The capsule contains debris that will

> significantly delay, or prevent, your healing. This is

> called a total capsulectomy. . . A good surgeon will

> also put drains in until there is no signficant

> drainage.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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Undoubtedly! . . . Tofu Titties were marketed in

Europe and banned before being approved in the U.S. A

few U.S. women got them overseas. . . . However, I

don't think women who got them were notified they had

toxic bombs. Most of them got sick really soon.

As I understand it were developed by a Dr. Leroy Young

in St. Louis. . .

--- Lamse <wannabe_proverbs31@...>

wrote:

> Rogene,

>

> I read somewhere that you have to keep oils in

> your kitchen in the refrigerator, otherwise they

> gets putrid and toxic. Do you think this has

> something to do with the problems with soya oil

> implants?

>

>

>

>

> Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> I've sent you an invitation to SiliconeKids . . .

> You'll find your daughter's problems aren't unusual

> among children of implanted mothers. . .

>

> Even soya implants had silicone shells. . . I don't

> know if platinum was used as a catalyst in the

> shells,

> or what was used with the soya oil . . . However,

> the

> ionized platinum that leaches from silicone is a

> very

> potent neurotoxin.

>

> A product I'm using to fight cancer, Natural

> Cellular

> Defense, is noted for removing heavy metals and

> other

> toxins from the body. If you'll do a websearch,

> you'll

> find a lot of info.

>

> I wish you were here in the states . . . There is

> some

> testing for platinum available. . . Contact m

> keeling

> <keeling.m@...> . Maybe she can arrange

> testing for you. I believe all that's required is a

> blood test.

>

> Shari belongs to both this group and the kids group.

> She has an affected son. Lana and are two

> SiliconeKids members who you can talk to as well.

>

> The main thing you need to be assured of is that the

> doctor will remove the capsule that has grown around

> your implants. The capsule contains debris that will

> significantly delay, or prevent, your healing. This

> is

> called a total capsulectomy. . . A good surgeon will

> also put drains in until there is no signficant

> drainage.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed health care

> professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any

> medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access

> at this link:

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Hi ,

It makes me so sad to read your story! You have been through so

much. And it is a scary situation to be the sole parent of your

children (I am so sorry to hear of your husband's sudden death.

That was traumatic enough, I am sure.) and be so sick. I remember

how difficult it was to be a good mommy to my kids when I was so

very ill.

All the symptoms you mention are just so classic for implant

disease. And that goes for silicone gel, saline, soya (what our

Ilena derisively calls " tofu titties " ), double lumen, or anything

other kind of implant that the manufacturer's have managed to

market. They all produce a classic constellation of symptoms that

are very telling.

The itching can be from various sources, but one that seems probable

is due to liver congestion or neuropathy--both problems associated

with implants. Many women have this itching phenomenon, as well as

muscle twitching, numbness, tingling, and so on.

We do have contact links for you in England, as well as members from

this group who are in England and who may be able to provide you

some support. Dr. Sara Myhill is one who seems to understand this

silicone illness, and so I hope you will consider seeing her if you

can. I will provide some links for you.

Check out Dawn Beaven's site:

http://siliconesurvivors.co.uk/

Dr. Myhill's Site:

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=86

God bless you , I hope we can help you feel surrounded by

caring friends and offer words of hope and encouragement as well as

practical help.

Patty

> I have been reading your information in the hope that it

could help me.

>

> 1 had soya implants in 1998 but had to have them replaced on

26th June 2001 after the publicity and the withdrawal from the

market. They had actually leaked after giving birth to my daughter.

>

> The surgeon replaced them with silicone gel who informed me

that they were quite safe and that it was a quick and simple

operation lasting approx 30 minutes. The operation actually took

1hr and 40 minutes!!. I never received any after care or any

information regarding the previous implants.

>

> After about 6 months, I noticed that the form has changed

slightly, the right one appeared a little loose and saggy whilst the

left one seemed unusually hard. I returned to see the surgeon who

told me that there was no problem. I also asked him if the itching

in my arms, which had started after the first implants was related,

he said it was not.

>

> The itching in my arms was awful. It woke me at night and I

saw several skin specialists to no avail. I had various blood test

and biopsys which also revealed nothing. The link to the silicone

implants went unnoticed. A year later, I began having joint

problems and was referred to a bone specialist and after having

various scans was told that it was inflammation of my joints and

that I had arthiritis. The pains just worsened over the year, the

itching carried on despite trying every cream etc on the market.

> 6 months ago things progressed. I got a sudden pain through

my foot and was unable to walk. The hospital bound it and gave me

inflamatory tablets. Then the same thing happened to my hand. Then

again my foot and more recently I had an abcess on the top of my leg

which has burst and is full of poison. I have an internal lump on

the inside of my elbow and awful pains in my arms, upper neck, hips

and spine. The itching in my arms is unbearable and can keep me up

at night and I have small lumps under my skin. I have many scars

and the spots often bleed through itching.

>

> I decided to go and see an English doctor. (I live in

Tenerife and have been dealing with Spanish consultants). I told

her what I thought, that the implants were leaking.

> She sent me for an Eco scan which has proved that is the

case.

> The right breast is leaking and the other has capuslar

leakage.

> I have a 3mm lump in the right breast, solid lesions and

various other things they have written but I am unable to translate.

>

> I am going to see a surgeon tomorrow and I have a letter

from my Doctor asking for an MRI Scan to see where the silicone has

travelled. To say I am scared is an understatement. I have

children who depend one me and more so as their father died suddenly

in December.

>

> If I had been told of the risks involved I would never had

gone ahead with implants but more importantly, if I had known what

silicone can do to your body and how ill it can make you, I would

have been able to diagnose the problem myself much sooner.

>

> I thought this might help your web pages especially as my

implants leaked after only 6 months!!

>

> (44 years)

>

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,

I am so sorry to hear that your daughter has suffered from these

ailments. I am so thankful that Rogene started her Silicone Kids

group on ...I believe it is a very important and much needed

focus as the kids have been ignored for far too long.

I believe the situation in England is more dire than the one we have

in America. At least we have a ban on silicone gel implants, but

even that is a farce. In any case, finding help from any medical

professionals is always a challenge. The few that do understand our

problems are like hidden treasures, and we are so happy when we find

them!

I don't think you will get very far trying to sue the plastic

surgeon, but with a history of soy implants, things might be a

little different for you in your case.

Detoxing is a must for you. But first, explant. That will be the

best thing of all.

Patty

>

> Hi,

> Thank you for your reply. In answer to your question, yes, I was

pregnant

> whilst I had my soya implants in. They were removed when Ebony

was 6 months

> old and replaced by silicone gel.

> Ebony is now 5 years old and beautiful though she did suffer many

ailments

> as a baby including severe colic until she was 2, digestive

problems, chest

> problems i.e. Bronchitis regularly.

>

> She still has chest infections every two months or so and also

complains of

> pains in her legs often.

> I don't know wether this has any bearing as to me having implants,

never

> thought about it before. I did not breastfeed.

>

> I have seen a surgeon today who has referred me to another one in

the North

> of the Island as he said there was no-one qualified here in the

South to

> deal with this. He actually told me not to worry and that they

may not have

> to take the implants out!!! They are leaking so why wouldn't he

want to

> take them out!! I now have an appointment on 10th March to see

the other

> surgeon, who is a plastic surgeon and also I am having my MRI Scan

to

> hopefully establish as to where the silicone has gone.

>

> I am going to buy some detox products tomorrow (if I can get them

here in

> Tenerife).

> Do I have any grounds to Sue the surgeon who did the implants? I

have no

> information on them, what make etc., and the guy won't speak with

me either.

> Thank you again,

> - Tenerife.

>

> -- Re: Fw: Ruptured Implants

>

> ,

>

> Welcome to . . . It sounds like you've

> really been given the run around by your doctors.

>

> I feel deeply for you for the loss of your husband.

> I'm sure your loss is adding to the stress from having

> implants. . . And, we've learned that we don't handle

> stress well!

>

> As for English Doctors, I'd suggest Dr. Myhill . . .

> She's easy to find with a websearch. . . She's very

> knowledgable about breast implant matters. I'm afraid

> she's somewhat expensive though.

>

> I can't imagine your doctor not notifying you as soon

> as it was discovered how bad soy bean implants are!

>

> Once you get your implants out, your chances of

> beginning to heal are quite good . . . regardless of

> all the problems you are having now. We have a lot of

> suggestions for getting better . . . You'll find them

> in the archives and in messages - and from the

> wonderful women who stay with the group to help other

> women get through this nightmare.

>

> Did you have any of your children after getting your

> implants?

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

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